The Syndicate

NP Blue was a great trial run, I'm never mad at a role that wants to go outside the box. I think it would have been better thematically not to involve a vote steal and instead just give me passive access to spec chat or something though.

i helped

gg everyone! i had so much fun playing with you all again

rez plz

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I'll come back at EoD to self-pres if I have to, but I am only interested in lynching Golden today.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:10 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:04 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:59 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:11 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:08 pm Guessing sig or eloh had their vote snatched away
Elo’s a good guess. I don’t think sig is a likely candidate tho. Id guess it would be more of a consensus town read
I’m a consensus town read tyvm
Same.
Oh you’re here.

Quick! Would you rather:
-eat a 6-inch cactus in its entirety but not have to poop it
Or
-poop a 3-inch cactus in its entirety but not have to have eaten it

No I'm not. I'm going to work.

Also the 6 inch, as long as I get some of that cactus fruit too.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:59 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:11 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:08 pm Guessing sig or eloh had their vote snatched away
Elo’s a good guess. I don’t think sig is a likely candidate tho. Id guess it would be more of a consensus town read
I’m a consensus town read tyvm

Same.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:34 amRead them

Do it again.

I've made my reads clear. I have zero interest in entertaining you because you obviously don't like them.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:08 am

@Quin who do you suspect in this game?

And don’t say Golden- that vote today is a blatant OMGUS. Your last few votes in order were Kate, Sloonei, Elo.

I have no idea who you actually find suspicious in this game.

Call it whatever you want. He's still bad.

You should read my posts then.

You don't care that looking like you're trying to save bea could get heat on you.

You don't want to case Quin because it could could get heat on you.

Make it make sense.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:29 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:23 am
Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:58 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:04 am
Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:21 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:49 pm

Let’s pretend I have no thoughts until I have read their ISOs.
We’ll keep me posted. IMO Golden hasn’t had his own case on anyone, Quin seems to be made of alternating witty and snarky one liners, and Michelle hasn’t had a really solid opinion on anyone. I wanted to put that out there, since I’m doing some reassessing.
I think perhaps reading the first two days for this where I was present and contributing a lot would be helpful.

I wasn’t around much on D3… although I feel like my case on G-Man was my own and I wasn’t sheeping, in fact since I wasn’t around I don’t actually know what other peoples cases were.

Fully agree I didn’t make my own case on bea, but it didn’t seem necessary.

I would have made a case on Quin yesterday but given where the thread was heading, I chose to wait until today. There was some self-preservation involved there (despite being able to win when dying, I want to play). I think I’m the kind of person who would take a tonne of sus today because people would have thought I was trying to save bea. This is the kind of thing that happens to me.

Fully with you on Michelle as well as Quin though.
I'm gonna breeze past the fact that "posts one-liners" is both inaccurate to my play and a shitty reason for a vote, and dive right into the fact that you have no business waiting to make cases when you were specifically interested in alternate wagons yesterday. Why the hell would you wait to make a case on me if you are town?
I'm just gonna go right back to this and say:

I cannot see any world in which civ quin asks the question 'why the hell would you wait to make a case on me if you are town?'

I think this is an inherently 'knew bea was a civ on day 4' mindset.
Let's say I believe you. You didn't make the case on me because you thought it could backfire on you and get you lynched that Day.

My next question is, "Why does civ Golden not make his case that Night?"
I didn't say anything about it getting me lynched that day. Or today.

I didn't want to deal with the shit. I'm not afraid of a lynch.

I don't make cases at night.

Then why'st the hell did it matter?

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:58 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:04 am
Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:21 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:49 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:05 pm @Sloonei i have confidence loss after Bea flipped civ. So I am stating a fact, I don’t understand it but I’m open to perspectives.

What are you thinking of Quin, Michelle and Golden? They are all POE for me and they shouldn’t be at this point.
Let’s pretend I have no thoughts until I have read their ISOs.
We’ll keep me posted. IMO Golden hasn’t had his own case on anyone, Quin seems to be made of alternating witty and snarky one liners, and Michelle hasn’t had a really solid opinion on anyone. I wanted to put that out there, since I’m doing some reassessing.
I think perhaps reading the first two days for this where I was present and contributing a lot would be helpful.

I wasn’t around much on D3… although I feel like my case on G-Man was my own and I wasn’t sheeping, in fact since I wasn’t around I don’t actually know what other peoples cases were.

Fully agree I didn’t make my own case on bea, but it didn’t seem necessary.

I would have made a case on Quin yesterday but given where the thread was heading, I chose to wait until today. There was some self-preservation involved there (despite being able to win when dying, I want to play). I think I’m the kind of person who would take a tonne of sus today because people would have thought I was trying to save bea. This is the kind of thing that happens to me.

Fully with you on Michelle as well as Quin though.
I'm gonna breeze past the fact that "posts one-liners" is both inaccurate to my play and a shitty reason for a vote, and dive right into the fact that you have no business waiting to make cases when you were specifically interested in alternate wagons yesterday. Why the hell would you wait to make a case on me if you are town?
I'm just gonna go right back to this and say:

I cannot see any world in which civ quin asks the question 'why the hell would you wait to make a case on me if you are town?'

I think this is an inherently 'knew bea was a civ on day 4' mindset.

Let's say I believe you. You didn't make the case on me because you thought it could backfire on you and get you lynched that Day.

My next question is, "Why does civ Golden not make his case that Night?"

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:46 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:30 am
Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:08 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:06 am I don't care where your vote ended up, or what you intended to do at EoD. You tried to start a wagon on DF. Why are the risks starting a wagon on DF different than if you started a wagon on Quin?
"I don't care that these two things are different. Why won't you answer my question as though they were the same."
Why are they different? I am literally asking you to explain why they are different.
"I literally want you to explain properly"

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:41 am
Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:15 am If you can't see the difference between me not worrying about taking heat from making literally zero effort from trying to get DF lynched and explaining exactly why I thought a counterwagon was a good idea while also flagging that I wasn't doing it because DF was my prime suspect (the primary factor was that Vivax was already voting there and two votes might actually entice a slip to save bea)

Versus casing you and making an empassioned case for your lynch...

I don't know what to tell you.
Thank you for clarifying.

There is no difference.
"Jokes, no I don't, I just want to rest my case"

The only difference is that you would hypothetically have only put effort into one of the wagons.

Your proposed DF wagon was pure tokenism. You didn't actually care about alternate wagons at all.

Your hypothetical Quin wagon didn't happen because you didn't want to risk getting heat. You definitely didn't actually care about alternate wagons at all.

linki: because DH is town.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:47 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:46 am
Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:42 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:41 am
Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:15 am If you can't see the difference between me not worrying about taking heat from making literally zero effort from trying to get DF lynched and explaining exactly why I thought a counterwagon was a good idea while also flagging that I wasn't doing it because DF was my prime suspect (the primary factor was that Vivax was already voting there and two votes might actually entice a slip to save bea)

Versus casing you and making an empassioned case for your lynch...

I don't know what to tell you.
Thank you for clarifying.

There is no difference.
This is bullsuit.
No, you.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine
Have you - even for one instant - ever indicated suspicion that I'm mafia in this game.

This really is a *literal* no u.

Nope. Your vote is just that rotten.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:42 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:41 am
Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:15 am If you can't see the difference between me not worrying about taking heat from making literally zero effort from trying to get DF lynched and explaining exactly why I thought a counterwagon was a good idea while also flagging that I wasn't doing it because DF was my prime suspect (the primary factor was that Vivax was already voting there and two votes might actually entice a slip to save bea)

Versus casing you and making an empassioned case for your lynch...

I don't know what to tell you.
Thank you for clarifying.

There is no difference.
This is bullsuit.

No, you.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:25 am Second @Quin why did you vote Eloh? You apparently suspected her day one (although all that Scotty/Elo stuff felt manufactured even then to me), but you said you didn't want to vote her but watch her, then voted her anyway, then basically never mentioned her again until your vote on day 4.

Eloh looked like an unengaged scum on Day 1. I would have liked to let her live if I wasn't also in danger that day. That changed, and she looked good in the her LoRab content so I changed my read.

Then her bea vote stank in comparison, where she just dumped it without intent to engage.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:15 am If you can't see the difference between me not worrying about taking heat from making literally zero effort from trying to get DF lynched and explaining exactly why I thought a counterwagon was a good idea while also flagging that I wasn't doing it because DF was my prime suspect (the primary factor was that Vivax was already voting there and two votes might actually entice a slip to save bea)

Versus casing you and making an empassioned case for your lynch...

I don't know what to tell you.

Thank you for clarifying.

There is no difference.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:08 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:06 am I don't care where your vote ended up, or what you intended to do at EoD. You tried to start a wagon on DF. Why are the risks starting a wagon on DF different than if you started a wagon on Quin?
"I don't care that these two things are different. Why won't you answer my question as though they were the same."

Why are they different? I am literally asking you to explain why they are different.

I don't care where your vote ended up, or what you intended to do at EoD. You tried to start a wagon on DF. Why are the risks starting a wagon on DF different than if you started a wagon on Quin?

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:47 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:04 am
Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:21 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:49 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:05 pm @Sloonei i have confidence loss after Bea flipped civ. So I am stating a fact, I don’t understand it but I’m open to perspectives.

What are you thinking of Quin, Michelle and Golden? They are all POE for me and they shouldn’t be at this point.
Let’s pretend I have no thoughts until I have read their ISOs.
We’ll keep me posted. IMO Golden hasn’t had his own case on anyone, Quin seems to be made of alternating witty and snarky one liners, and Michelle hasn’t had a really solid opinion on anyone. I wanted to put that out there, since I’m doing some reassessing.
I think perhaps reading the first two days for this where I was present and contributing a lot would be helpful.

I wasn’t around much on D3… although I feel like my case on G-Man was my own and I wasn’t sheeping, in fact since I wasn’t around I don’t actually know what other peoples cases were.

Fully agree I didn’t make my own case on bea, but it didn’t seem necessary.

I would have made a case on Quin yesterday but given where the thread was heading, I chose to wait until today. There was some self-preservation involved there (despite being able to win when dying, I want to play). I think I’m the kind of person who would take a tonne of sus today because people would have thought I was trying to save bea. This is the kind of thing that happens to me.

Fully with you on Michelle as well as Quin though.
I'm gonna breeze past the fact that "posts one-liners" is both inaccurate to my play and a shitty reason for a vote, and dive right into the fact that you have no business waiting to make cases when you were specifically interested in alternate wagons yesterday. Why the hell would you wait to make a case on me if you are town?
I literally explained it above. Couldn’t be arsed dealing with ‘trying to save bea’ heat.

As it turned out bea was civ anyway, so lol.

Why does casing me have a higher chance of leading to 'trying to save bea' heat than voting for, say, DF? The person who you voted for?

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:21 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:49 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:05 pm @Sloonei i have confidence loss after Bea flipped civ. So I am stating a fact, I don’t understand it but I’m open to perspectives.

What are you thinking of Quin, Michelle and Golden? They are all POE for me and they shouldn’t be at this point.
Let’s pretend I have no thoughts until I have read their ISOs.
We’ll keep me posted. IMO Golden hasn’t had his own case on anyone, Quin seems to be made of alternating witty and snarky one liners, and Michelle hasn’t had a really solid opinion on anyone. I wanted to put that out there, since I’m doing some reassessing.
I think perhaps reading the first two days for this where I was present and contributing a lot would be helpful.

I wasn’t around much on D3… although I feel like my case on G-Man was my own and I wasn’t sheeping, in fact since I wasn’t around I don’t actually know what other peoples cases were.

Fully agree I didn’t make my own case on bea, but it didn’t seem necessary.

I would have made a case on Quin yesterday but given where the thread was heading, I chose to wait until today. There was some self-preservation involved there (despite being able to win when dying, I want to play). I think I’m the kind of person who would take a tonne of sus today because people would have thought I was trying to save bea. This is the kind of thing that happens to me.

Fully with you on Michelle as well as Quin though.

I'm gonna breeze past the fact that "posts one-liners" is both inaccurate to my play and a shitty reason for a vote, and dive right into the fact that you have no business waiting to make cases when you were specifically interested in alternate wagons yesterday. Why the hell would you wait to make a case on me if you are town?

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'll see what you have to say about her when I get home.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:59 pm A cheesy low poster counter wagon annoys me, it is beneath this Mafia Supergroup

I crashed out on the couch last night, so I’m going to bed early. Good night Quin, I hope your client is able to formulate suspicions. Xox

Linki =@Golden thanks for that list. I am a fan of Quins Eloh vote even less than your Faraday vote.

What's wrong with it?

[VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine

Her vote for bea was in a post alongside something about 'not needing a tribal council' which I've taken as 'no need for wagons and/or to discuss'. This is largely the issue I have had with today.

linki: I was gonna say...

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:45 pm Do you actually suspect him?

No. I was going to move it to Eloh as soon as you followed me actually.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:42 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:37 pm SVS, if you weren't voting bea today, where would you go?
Sloonei still, I have issues with G Man committing suicide to save him. I think he was wishy before he was pushed. His voting in the Lorab lynch was shady imo.

Golden is a high level player; I would expect suspicions other than low posters I guess by Day 3.

This is a strong thread with a lot of content. A push at low posters confuses me.

I was talking to Golden. Are you his attorney?

No, I am his fart.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Meet you there.

SVS, if you weren't voting bea today, where would you go?

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:20 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:14 pm I am looking at a 7 person wagon with 24 hours left to go and wondering 'what have we learned today'?

There's scum on that wagon. Something for me to look at when I'm home from work.
Is there an echo in here?

No, you just farted.

I am looking at a 7 person wagon with 24 hours left to go and wondering 'what have we learned today'?

There's scum on that wagon. Something for me to look at when I'm home from work.

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:04 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:00 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:52 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:41 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:31 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:11 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:02 am

Have reads on display a tad more openly.
It‘s D3, we should be panicking or something. Plenty of time for slow starters to amp it up.

But every EoD outcome has felt largely random and the players who voted aggressively are being taken out.

I‘m open to the possibility that you are town but I don‘t see lots of efforts going on to sell the wagon you are voting.

p-edit: I‘m the bea voter, kate
I'm really honestly making a good faith effort to play the new style more than what I'm used to. You'll see uptrend there was a discussion about OGs (Which i prefer to old school or relic lol) keeping your reads close to your chest. Also, I made the first multi quote posts I've ever made. I'm doing my best to follow the new regime.

This is the first time I've been exposed to a rainbow list. That is something that never would have been done in the past. It would have been seen as target painting.
@Quin
I asked you to tell me why I shouldn't scum read you for your type of engagement in the thread so far. You don't need to multi quote or make rainbow lists to do that.
My type of engagement has always been to hold things closer to my chest than to make a wall of text. It's just always been the way I've played. I'd usually talk about my biggest suspicion, and pretty much never talk about more than 1 at a time. If you died in our games, you lose. I was trying to baddie hunt while also trying to NOT get nk'd. Does that clarify it a little?

I think it's more than a little obvious that I'm "town," as y'all would say, at this point in the game. Are you looking to get something from me or are you actually suspecting me?
It does clarify it. Thank you.

I was 'looking' for an explanation for your engagement, which you've probably done as best as you can here. I'm not in a mind to dump a vote on you and run off, at any rate.

Did you have anything to say about the Sloonei wagon yesterday?
Ok. In attempt to really play new school I'll do it. I think sloonei is dead red. Or at least a more important bad role than OT Green. I don't see any other explaination for gmans behavior and vote.

Is Sloonei scum based on G-Man's posts/votes or do you think he's bad independently?

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:52 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:41 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:31 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:11 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:02 am
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:52 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:47 am Fingersplints ffs.

That said, I think I want a Kate CW as being lone bea voter isn‘t going to get us far.

It‘s also not an unlikely pairing with Sloonei if the latter is indeed mafia.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine
Huh? Now I'm really confused. You want me to what?
Have reads on display a tad more openly.
It‘s D3, we should be panicking or something. Plenty of time for slow starters to amp it up.

But every EoD outcome has felt largely random and the players who voted aggressively are being taken out.

I‘m open to the possibility that you are town but I don‘t see lots of efforts going on to sell the wagon you are voting.

p-edit: I‘m the bea voter, kate
I'm really honestly making a good faith effort to play the new style more than what I'm used to. You'll see uptrend there was a discussion about OGs (Which i prefer to old school or relic lol) keeping your reads close to your chest. Also, I made the first multi quote posts I've ever made. I'm doing my best to follow the new regime.

This is the first time I've been exposed to a rainbow list. That is something that never would have been done in the past. It would have been seen as target painting.
@Quin
I asked you to tell me why I shouldn't scum read you for your type of engagement in the thread so far. You don't need to multi quote or make rainbow lists to do that.
My type of engagement has always been to hold things closer to my chest than to make a wall of text. It's just always been the way I've played. I'd usually talk about my biggest suspicion, and pretty much never talk about more than 1 at a time. If you died in our games, you lose. I was trying to baddie hunt while also trying to NOT get nk'd. Does that clarify it a little?

I think it's more than a little obvious that I'm "town," as y'all would say, at this point in the game. Are you looking to get something from me or are you actually suspecting me?

It does clarify it. Thank you.

I was 'looking' for an explanation for your engagement, which you've probably done as best as you can here. I'm not in a mind to dump a vote on you and run off, at any rate.

Did you have anything to say about the Sloonei wagon yesterday?

I thought it was easy to decipher sig's posts.

Thanks for the quesadilla recipe, btw.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:40 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:32 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:30 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:01 pm Sloon are still as absolutely certain on Quin as you have been thus far?
No.
Why not?

Do you have any thoughts on why he'd vote me yesterday, without putting anything about his vote in the thread?
He doesn’t look squeaky clean in G-man’s posts.

I do not have thoughts on Quin’s Day 3 vote. I didn’t take much note of it. @Quin care to weigh in?

I've said it multiple ways by now. Kate is not genuinely engaged in the hunt.

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:31 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:11 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:02 am
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:52 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:47 am Fingersplints ffs.

That said, I think I want a Kate CW as being lone bea voter isn‘t going to get us far.

It‘s also not an unlikely pairing with Sloonei if the latter is indeed mafia.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine
Huh? Now I'm really confused. You want me to what?
Have reads on display a tad more openly.
It‘s D3, we should be panicking or something. Plenty of time for slow starters to amp it up.

But every EoD outcome has felt largely random and the players who voted aggressively are being taken out.

I‘m open to the possibility that you are town but I don‘t see lots of efforts going on to sell the wagon you are voting.

p-edit: I‘m the bea voter, kate
I'm really honestly making a good faith effort to play the new style more than what I'm used to. You'll see uptrend there was a discussion about OGs (Which i prefer to old school or relic lol) keeping your reads close to your chest. Also, I made the first multi quote posts I've ever made. I'm doing my best to follow the new regime.

This is the first time I've been exposed to a rainbow list. That is something that never would have been done in the past. It would have been seen as target painting.
@Quin

I asked you to tell me why I shouldn't scum read you for your type of engagement in the thread so far. You don't need to multi quote or make rainbow lists to do that.

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:32 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:30 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:01 pm Sloon are still as absolutely certain on Quin as you have been thus far?
No.
Why not?

Do you have any thoughts on why he'd vote me yesterday, without putting anything about his vote in the thread?

I did.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:53 am [VOTE: Kate] aubergine

I have untangled the spaghetti and Kate looks the worst. Wilgy and G-Man are also on the table for me.

Just so you're aware, claiming votes in the thread is (or was? I don't know if new people are doing it) a common courtesy we give the hosts in case there are issues with the poll and they ever need to manually track the order or number of votes. Not claiming their vote is not something I would expect an old timer to ever do as an in-game strategy thing - they most likely just forgot.

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:46 pm Can't really spot any concerted effort to save G-Man around End of Day.
Bea vote sticks out as townie, at first glance. I think for a Feb team that doesn't want to stick out too much voting together to save him, G-Man is the more logical choice. With the best choice being to vote off both wagons.
Michelle feels less opinionated than during D1. The DFaraday push could be such an attempt at placing a vote away from G-Man and also not Sloonei.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:58 pm Tokang thu ployurs frem thu lewust pesturs
Whot thu censunsis epanaen obeit Forodoy?

Has Ase as smoll, centoans o fuw ruods ond sulf muto soyang hu weild pest meru os o welf

DFaraday wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:50 pm I don't suspect either G-Man or Sloonei, and I won't be able to read the cases on them before the vote closes, so I will go ahead and move my vote to Michelle, on the grounds that I feel less town about her than anyone else really. As in, nothing has stood out as civ.
It's a weird interaction between these two, actually. It's really not the angle most of the game was looking at, and they seem to feel a bit too safe in this bubble where they push each other. DFara openly admits to not reading the reasons behind the wagons, but somehow finds Michelle interesting enough to read. Maybe he was just reading whoever was pushing him, but then he'd have had to read the thread?

The banger here is that Michelle didn't vote, so for DF to notice her, he'd also have had to run into posts describing reasons behind the main wagons. So this could be grounds to campaign for a DF lynch tomorrow, as it feels like he's lying here about what he read.

There was a big upheaval in sig voters switching to Sloonei towards EoD. If there was an attempt at a save, that was it.

Noting you also voted for him at one point, what do you think of those who voted for sig yesterday?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:27 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:24 pm I’m gonna go ahead and vote for Quin.

Silly sig never mind

Why aren't you voting for Quin now?

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:16 pm Sig looks townie to me. Latest posts are of a good vibe. Appreciate the occasional joke on the side.

Quin I just realized had questions I didn‘t answer yet (sorry about that, I‘m a bit erratic at times), but I can almost sense an odd disappointment at not being read as scum. Or maybe I‘m just imagining it.

Seems to be opinionated enough to be town for today imo.
I am maybe biased in reading boldness that superficially look bad as a townie thing. Bea‘s late vote feels like such a thing.

But I think SVS mentioned it‘s more of a NAI thing for her.

p-edit: Hmm, I don‘t. I could try to guess who revolution mafia is. I have an idea, but even if correct, calling the switch unsurprising suggests you work from a framework where you can be more confident about what transpired, which is mafia indicative.

What does this mean?

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:21 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:33 pm @Quin I probably missed it but can you walk me through the following

1. You’re Kate vote
2. Why Sig is the most amazing player ever (500 word minimum with 3 sources formatted in APA)
3. Who post Gman flip you think the mafia team is

@Elohcin Walk me through why you think Sheepers are more likely to be mafia and what your current thoughts are on the more sheepy players please.

@DFaraday if you could just give some quick general thoughts that would be great

@Scotty pay attention to me and my jokey posts + what do you think about Golden right now?
Me too, particularly, 1 and 3... If I'm remembering correctly, I don't think you even put it in the thread that you were voting for me. So what's up? I was to busy yesterday Halloweening to come ask.

PS you guys are FUNNY. Im loling all day today.

You know why I voted for you.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:49 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:45 am
DFaraday wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:06 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:08 am I've never played with Kate. Hi Kate!

Kate has been generating reads, but the vast majority of them are developed in reaction to other's posts. Very little proactive scum hunting is happening. I'm seeing this as a scum doing the rounds to respond to lots of prompts, but not generating anything new of her own accord.

Can you comment on this, @Kate ?
I don't think operating off of others' leads is alignment indicative; that's typically how I play regardless of alignment.
I can understand that it's NAI for you. I'd even agree with it.

I want Kate to tell me why it's not alignment indicative for her.
Hi, I'm here and reading along but I'm going to be pretty busy until at least 3 pm today. I have noted your question and I will get back to you.

Waiting for you to get back to me.

Never mind, you're talking about Sloonei's read on me. Tehe.

Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:00 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:43 pm Quin looks better on a reread with the latest posts.
Kate/Bea maybe ?

Or Bea/Sloonei (considering how Sloonei handled Quin and bea reads and then assuming Quin town)

And DFara remains a coinflip.

I‘m unsure if the Kate/DH exchanges suggest aligned.
I do not understand what you think you see in my Bea read.
I find it hard to believe a civ would have her as more than null. Even if correct, it‘s an unreasonable degree of confidence for you to have (and on Quin as well)

I never said I had a read on bea. I said that the bea train was garbage.

You didn't read my bea content before saying this, did you?

Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:43 pm Quin looks better on a reread with the latest posts.
Kate/Bea maybe ?

Or Bea/Sloonei (considering how Sloonei handled Quin and bea reads and then assuming Quin town)

And DFara remains a coinflip.

I‘m unsure if the Kate/DH exchanges suggest aligned.

Which posts of mine did you like specifically? Why?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:09 am [VOTE: vivax] aubergine

Let's do this again.

He was a town read for you three hours ago. Why did he drop?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:59 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:53 am [VOTE: Kate] aubergine

I have untangled the spaghetti and Kate looks the worst. Wilgy and G-Man are also on the table for me.
How?

Kate is responding to posts, but not bringing anything new to the table that isn't prompted by someone else. It's reading to me like she's unable to generate content organically. She also ignored me for calling her out on this when she caught up. DF makes a good point here, but I also want to talk to her more about this before I'm comfortable moving it.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:37 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:25 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:42 pm One last thing, we should all be seriously concerned that dfaraday has posted FOUR times.
But isn’t that non-alignment indicative of him?

Not to defend him, because that’s still pretty terrible, but still.
From what I remember, he was a low poster in every game I played with him. It's concerning to me that, at the time of that post, 4 posts was hurting the civs chances of winning as we may be unlikely to lynch him (if he's bad) keeping the mafia alive because one player was playing. On the flip side (if he is civ) he's not contributing anything thus being no help to hunt down the baddies and he is simply just holding an alive civ role...while the rest of us who are playing get nk'd.

I think this is functionally similar to the people who suspected Axe for being antagonising or whatever. It's how DF has historically chosen to play mafia, and we ultimately just have to get over it and make our reads based on other factors.

What do the think of the posts DF has made?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:20 pm
bea wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:08 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:49 pm @bea totally Ms Marvel, glowing with righteous indignation. I am seeing no element of that. No Noble Smiley which is very much civ bea to me. I don’t think it’s an overestimation. But it’s also very Meta.

What do you think of the Triumvirate of Content, Golden, Sloonei and Quin? And thanks for explaining “supalamaloo” I had no freaking idea
Also, I have pretty good feelings about Golden, sloon and quin thus far. I mean, I guess I could be being conned, but they have all felt pretty genuine to me.
How is Quin part of the triumvirate but I’m not?

true tbh

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

I have untangled the spaghetti and Kate looks the worst. Wilgy and G-Man are also on the table for me.

There is a 0 percent chance I am voting DH/SVS today. Anybody voting there hasn't been reading the thread.

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