Anniversary Game 1 - Classic Syndicate [Day 9]

[Quin]

SVS, if you weren't voting bea today, where would you go?

[S~V~S]

SVS, if you weren't voting bea today, where would you go?

Sloonei still, I have issues with G Man committing suicide to save him. I think he was wishy before he was pushed. His voting in the Lorab lynch was shady imo.

Golden is a high level player; I would expect suspicions other than low posters I guess by Day 3.

This is a strong thread with a lot of content. A push at low posters confuses me.

I was talking to Golden. Are you his attorney?

[Quin]

SVS, if you weren't voting bea today, where would you go?

Sloonei still, I have issues with G Man committing suicide to save him. I think he was wishy before he was pushed. His voting in the Lorab lynch was shady imo.

Golden is a high level player; I would expect suspicions other than low posters I guess by Day 3.

This is a strong thread with a lot of content. A push at low posters confuses me.

I was talking to Golden. Are you his attorney?

No, I am his fart.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Meet you there.

[S~V~S]

Do you actually suspect him?

[Quin]

Do you actually suspect him?

No. I was going to move it to Eloh as soon as you followed me actually.

[S~V~S]

But sure I moved my vote. I think Sloonei is shadier than Faraday.

Linki, why Eloh? I think she’s bad even less than Faraday. Switching back.

[S~V~S]

And actually when I moved my vote I voted for myself

[Quin]

Her vote for bea was in a post alongside something about 'not needing a tribal council' which I've taken as 'no need for wagons and/or to discuss'. This is largely the issue I have had with today.

linki: I was gonna say...

[Quin]

[VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine

[Golden]

I vote for [VOTE: DFaraday] aubergine.

Do you think faraday is bad? I don’t. Who do you think is bad other than Bea? I’d rather counterwagon on someone trending bad.

I think he *could* be bad and I’m interested to see what develops from it.

But besides that, he was the only person other than bea who had any votes at all.

And I heard he had a flurry of activity but I haven’t read it yet.

All of us *could* be bad. But do you have reason to think this person is bad? I have reason to think he is not. He is not one of the people I would aggressively defend, but surely you suspect someone more than Faraday?

Linki @Golden sure I have people I suspect, but you’ve been here longer. You don’t have any suggestions of your own? Your top suspicion is a low poster?

There’s quite a number of people I want to investigate who, because of my absence over the last few days, I don’t feel like I have a sense of right now.

DF is one of them. So is bea. So is Michelle. So are you. So is Quin. So is Kate.

I feel good about Sloonei, vivax, wilgy, eloh and sig. i notice bea said she didn’t know she was being punished either so I’m not bothered about/scum-reading sig not knowing at this point.

I’ll do my best to do a reads list before end of day. But although I have been here ‘longer than you’, it’s apparent you’ve been really engaged in this period where I haven’t been able to.

[Vivax]

The tribal council vulgo elections

[S~V~S]

A cheesy low poster counter wagon annoys me, it is beneath this Mafia Supergroup

I crashed out on the couch last night, so I’m going to bed early. Good night Quin, I hope your client is able to formulate suspicions. Xox

Linki =@Golden thanks for that list. I am a fan of Quins Eloh vote even less than your Faraday vote.

[Quin]

A cheesy low poster counter wagon annoys me, it is beneath this Mafia Supergroup

I crashed out on the couch last night, so I’m going to bed early. Good night Quin, I hope your client is able to formulate suspicions. Xox

Linki =@Golden thanks for that list. I am a fan of Quins Eloh vote even less than your Faraday vote.

What's wrong with it?

[S~V~S]

A cheesy low poster counter wagon annoys me, it is beneath this Mafia Supergroup

I crashed out on the couch last night, so I’m going to bed early. Good night Quin, I hope your client is able to formulate suspicions. Xox

Linki =@Golden thanks for that list. I am a fan of Quins Eloh vote even less than your Faraday vote.

What's wrong with it?

I think she’s probably a civvie?

[Golden]

A cheesy low poster counter wagon annoys me, it is beneath this Mafia Supergroup

I crashed out on the couch last night, so I’m going to bed early. Good night Quin, I hope your client is able to formulate suspicions. Xox

Linki =@Golden thanks for that list. I am a fan of Quins Eloh vote even less than your Faraday vote.

Ping me if you like, but I’m not picking who I vote for based on how much you like it.

I didn’t like your vote on Sloonei yesterday and i think he’s town but did the fact you started a counterwagon give us valuable info? Yes, I think it did, if bea is bad it’s literally caught us a baddie.

So I think you should recognise the utility of my vote with the goal of creating a viable counterwagon beyond whether you agree with my suspicion.

[Quin]

I'll see what you have to say about her when I get home.

[Golden]

Also svs, genuine lol at the ‘is Quin your attorney’ stuff.

Quin coming in right after me with the same thing skeeves me out.

[S~V~S]

A cheesy low poster counter wagon annoys me, it is beneath this Mafia Supergroup

I crashed out on the couch last night, so I’m going to bed early. Good night Quin, I hope your client is able to formulate suspicions. Xox

Linki =@Golden thanks for that list. I am a fan of Quins Eloh vote even less than your Faraday vote.

Ping me if you like, but I’m not picking who I vote for based on how much you like it.

I didn’t like your vote on Sloonei yesterday and i think he’s town but did the fact you started a counterwagon give us valuable info? Yes, I think it did, if bea is bad it’s literally caught us a baddie.

So I think you should recognise the utility of my vote with the goal of creating a viable counterwagon beyond whether you agree with my suspicion.

I do but Sloonei was my top suspect aside from G Man. I can’t believe that a low poster is your top suspicion. If feels like a LHF thing, and *thats* what I don’t like. But you do you, I’m going to bed.

[S~V~S]

I'll see what you have to say about her when I get home.

I’ll prolly say, “I think she’s a civ “

[Kate]

I am looking at a 7 person wagon with 24 hours left to go and wondering 'what have we learned today'?

There's scum on that wagon. Something for me to look at when I'm home from work.

Is there an echo in here?

Do you think she's civ, Golden?

[Kate]

Also, @Golden how strong of a town read on sloonie do you have? If your strongly leaning civ, do you have any explanation as to gman's bizarre exit? @sloonei, I'd love to hear what you think about this as well.

Golden, I saw you mentioned me upthread. You, of all players, in this specific game I thought would know I'm civ and would even guess my role. I think if you read the posts, you'll see that it's in there.

[Kate]

Edit:

You're

[Sloonei]

I would propose Vivax as a counterwagon to Bea if we insist on having one. I think DF looks good in G-man’s iso. I think vivax looks bad.

[Sloonei]

Also, @Golden how strong of a town read on sloonie do you have? If your strongly leaning civ, do you have any explanation as to gman's bizarre exit? @sloonei, I'd love to hear what you think about this as well.

Golden, I saw you mentioned me upthread. You, of all players, in this specific game I thought would know I'm civ and would even guess my role. I think if you read the posts, you'll see that it's in there.

G-man was trying to put on a noble act to sway voters off of him OR he was trying to cast doubts about me in the aftermath of his flip OR both.

[Golden]

Also, @Golden how strong of a town read on sloonie do you have? If your strongly leaning civ, do you have any explanation as to gman's bizarre exit? @sloonei, I'd love to hear what you think about this as well.

Golden, I saw you mentioned me upthread. You, of all players, in this specific game I thought would know I'm civ and would even guess my role. I think if you read the posts, you'll see that it's in there.

I’ll go looking then!

I am trying to do as much of that stuff as I can but I was never going to come in and be able to participate at the rate I used to.

I did post a second explanation for g, I’ll see if I can find it for you.

[DFaraday]

Fair play to Vivax voting me, as I don't think we've played much together/at all. Golden should absolutely know that I'm not acting suspiciously, and focusing on me is clearly to the town's detriment.

Going to go ahead and OMGUS Golden and put a vote on him because this is the first time I haven't felt town about him.

I'm also kind of enjoying playing a loose, unpredictable style this time, doing what I feel like when I feel like. Going after me won't change that.

[Golden]

Btw Kate I *vibe* you town but that is not the same thing as me having paid close attention to your posts.

I have had to choose where to focus my attention in this game, and you’ve not pinged me so I’ve never focused it on you.

It’s that time in the game where I can’t be satisfied with myself if my read is merely vibe, so I actually do have to go back and read you.

[DFaraday]

Can't really spot any concerted effort to save G-Man around End of Day.
Bea vote sticks out as townie, at first glance. I think for a Feb team that doesn't want to stick out too much voting together to save him, G-Man is the more logical choice. With the best choice being to vote off both wagons.
Michelle feels less opinionated than during D1. The DFaraday push could be such an attempt at placing a vote away from G-Man and also not Sloonei.

Tokang thu ployurs frem thu lewust pesturs
Whot thu censunsis epanaen obeit Forodoy?

Has Ase as smoll, centoans o fuw ruods ond sulf muto soyang hu weild pest meru os o welf

I don't suspect either G-Man or Sloonei, and I won't be able to read the cases on them before the vote closes, so I will go ahead and move my vote to Michelle, on the grounds that I feel less town about her than anyone else really. As in, nothing has stood out as civ.

It's a weird interaction between these two, actually. It's really not the angle most of the game was looking at, and they seem to feel a bit too safe in this bubble where they push each other. DFara openly admits to not reading the reasons behind the wagons, but somehow finds Michelle interesting enough to read. Maybe he was just reading whoever was pushing him, but then he'd have had to read the thread?

The banger here is that Michelle didn't vote, so for DF to notice her, he'd also have had to run into posts describing reasons behind the main wagons. So this could be grounds to campaign for a DF lynch tomorrow, as it feels like he's lying here about what he read.

Nope, I just happened to get a nondescript vibe from her posts, which was enough for me. I am actually going to go take a look at her post history though.

[DFaraday]

DFaraday -> G-man

Spoiler: show

DF - a proper scum read at this point. DF is always quiet and I defended him on day 1 but it’s day 3 now…. And perpetual catch up mode. I don’t think civ DF is *this* quiet.

I actually think I'm the opposite. I feel more pressured to contribute as a baddie because I have teammates to look out for. I guess technically I do as a civ too, but it's less immediate.

Anyway, Scotty and G-Man are reading civ to me, mostly due to tone. DH, from what I've read, almost seems to want to die, and I'm getting the vibe that his recent posts are some kind of baddie ploy. I will put a vote on him for now, in the absence of strong reads on anyone else yet.

DF gives G-man an unsubstantiated town read, along with Scotty. He cites "tone" for each of them. Okay then.

Spoiler: show

DF:
Posts a promise-to-catch-up post at the end of N0, misses all of D1, has a right (imo) read on Eloh. Also cursed with switched vowels D2. Another promise post, and then a post in which he says that LoRab's tone reminds him of her past baddie tone and he votes for her. That's it. Four posts. @DFaraday Now that you are not cursed, can you point to a few of LoRab's posts that led you to the wrong conclusion about her tone meta? DF is about as inconclusive as it gets. With no real room for null reads at this point, I have to put him in my poe. It's not because I find him suspicious, but because I have no reason to townclear him based on his content thus far.

Votes: Missed D1, LoRab D2

This is what struck me as defensive baddie:

You know what I love--players telling me how I should play the game. Seriously. It's my favorite. Almost as much as when people say that civvies deserved to be lynched.

I wish I were bad--I find being bad much easier, but here we are. I'm civ. I wish I were able to help the civvies win.

If I'm lynched, go after Kate and Bea next. Scotty isn't making me feel great. Llama may also be a baddie--I keep going back and forth on him. And Dr Wilgy needs to stop licking people and hiding behind his goofiness--it is making me increasingly suspect him.

To me it almost came across like trying to garner sympathy, but I was obviously wrong about that.

I also now see that SVS replaced DH. That makes me feel much less confident in my baddie ploy theory.

G-man asks DF to justify his LoRab vote, and DF responds with a direct citation. Solid response. DF's response to G here tells me very little, but (as I said in my previous post), I think G-man's treatment of him here looks like a mafioso in search of more "suspects" to push.

Spoiler: show

I don't suspect either G-Man or Sloonei, and I won't be able to read the cases on them before the vote closes, so I will go ahead and move my vote to Michelle, on the grounds that I feel less town about her than anyone else really. As in, nothing has stood out as civ.

DF abstains from yesterday's vote because he suspects neither of the two main candidates. Fine. His town read on G-man is at least consistent, although he never quite articulated why it existed. This is not the worst, but there is nothing in DF's posts that counts as "good" either. Inconclusive.

I pretty much play based on vibes and tone unless it's a small game or I've made it to the late game. I've never been one for ISOs and data analysis, even when I had the time.

And I didn't abstain from the vote. I voted third party.

[Michelle]

Bea's silence is welcoming.

Tastes of the calm before the worm.

@Michelle what's up home dog skillet?

longest work day of the week, vacation days giving extra work as well, and feeling sick when i came home around 9 pm so I went to sleep. Waking up at 4 am and skimming the day a little
Also searching for dog skillet was instructive

Now about the wagon on Bea, I think it's town driven.
My vote goes there as well.
[VOTE: Bea] aubergine

[Michelle]

Rez plz

This

i realised how much I miss to play with you Dizzy

[Golden]

Also, @Golden how strong of a town read on sloonie do you have? If your strongly leaning civ, do you have any explanation as to gman's bizarre exit? @sloonei, I'd love to hear what you think about this as well.

Golden, I saw you mentioned me upthread. You, of all players, in this specific game I thought would know I'm civ and would even guess my role. I think if you read the posts, you'll see that it's in there.

Also in respect of your question about Sloonei.

My read of Sloonei is kinda like the read you think I should have on you.

[Michelle]

DFaraday -> G-man

Spoiler: show

DF - a proper scum read at this point. DF is always quiet and I defended him on day 1 but it’s day 3 now…. And perpetual catch up mode. I don’t think civ DF is *this* quiet.

I actually think I'm the opposite. I feel more pressured to contribute as a baddie because I have teammates to look out for. I guess technically I do as a civ too, but it's less immediate.

Anyway, Scotty and G-Man are reading civ to me, mostly due to tone. DH, from what I've read, almost seems to want to die, and I'm getting the vibe that his recent posts are some kind of baddie ploy. I will put a vote on him for now, in the absence of strong reads on anyone else yet.

DF gives G-man an unsubstantiated town read, along with Scotty. He cites "tone" for each of them. Okay then.

Spoiler: show

DF:
Posts a promise-to-catch-up post at the end of N0, misses all of D1, has a right (imo) read on Eloh. Also cursed with switched vowels D2. Another promise post, and then a post in which he says that LoRab's tone reminds him of her past baddie tone and he votes for her. That's it. Four posts. @DFaraday Now that you are not cursed, can you point to a few of LoRab's posts that led you to the wrong conclusion about her tone meta? DF is about as inconclusive as it gets. With no real room for null reads at this point, I have to put him in my poe. It's not because I find him suspicious, but because I have no reason to townclear him based on his content thus far.

Votes: Missed D1, LoRab D2

This is what struck me as defensive baddie:

You know what I love--players telling me how I should play the game. Seriously. It's my favorite. Almost as much as when people say that civvies deserved to be lynched.

I wish I were bad--I find being bad much easier, but here we are. I'm civ. I wish I were able to help the civvies win.

If I'm lynched, go after Kate and Bea next. Scotty isn't making me feel great. Llama may also be a baddie--I keep going back and forth on him. And Dr Wilgy needs to stop licking people and hiding behind his goofiness--it is making me increasingly suspect him.

To me it almost came across like trying to garner sympathy, but I was obviously wrong about that.

I also now see that SVS replaced DH. That makes me feel much less confident in my baddie ploy theory.

G-man asks DF to justify his LoRab vote, and DF responds with a direct citation. Solid response. DF's response to G here tells me very little, but (as I said in my previous post), I think G-man's treatment of him here looks like a mafioso in search of more "suspects" to push.

Spoiler: show

I don't suspect either G-Man or Sloonei, and I won't be able to read the cases on them before the vote closes, so I will go ahead and move my vote to Michelle, on the grounds that I feel less town about her than anyone else really. As in, nothing has stood out as civ.

DF abstains from yesterday's vote because he suspects neither of the two main candidates. Fine. His town read on G-man is at least consistent, although he never quite articulated why it existed. This is not the worst, but there is nothing in DF's posts that counts as "good" either. Inconclusive.

I pretty much play based on vibes and tone unless it's a small game or I've made it to the late game. I've never been one for ISOs and data analysis, even when I had the time.

And I didn't abstain from the vote. I voted third party.

Voting third party is not clearing anyone because from mafia pov they are not teammates.
Because so many are saying you sound civvie I am thinking at it and I am waiting for something from you to make me find my own read.
I don't trust self meta, I was burned by this countless times.

[Kate]

Btw Kate I *vibe* you town but that is not the same thing as me having paid close attention to your posts.

I have had to choose where to focus my attention in this game, and you’ve not pinged me so I’ve never focused it on you.

It’s that time in the game where I can’t be satisfied with myself if my read is merely vibe, so I actually do have to go back and read you.

Fair enough. Read all the posts.

[Golden]

Night 3 legacy rainbow! Just in case.


Elo
Kate
Vivax2.0
Golden
DrWilgy
SVS
Michelle
sig
Sloonei
DFaraday
Quin
bea

Oh look scotty dropped a legacy rainbow. Interesting.

Also scotty this game is less fun without you.

[Michelle]

Also, @Golden how strong of a town read on sloonie do you have? If your strongly leaning civ, do you have any explanation as to gman's bizarre exit? @sloonei, I'd love to hear what you think about this as well.

Golden, I saw you mentioned me upthread. You, of all players, in this specific game I thought would know I'm civ and would even guess my role. I think if you read the posts, you'll see that it's in there.

Also in respect of your question about Sloonei.

My read of Sloonei is kinda like the read you think I should have on you.

Can you reformulate the last sentence for me please?

[Kate]

Also, @Golden how strong of a town read on sloonie do you have? If your strongly leaning civ, do you have any explanation as to gman's bizarre exit? @sloonei, I'd love to hear what you think about this as well.

Golden, I saw you mentioned me upthread. You, of all players, in this specific game I thought would know I'm civ and would even guess my role. I think if you read the posts, you'll see that it's in there.

Also in respect of your question about Sloonei.

My read of Sloonei is kinda like the read you think I should have on you.

Interesting. I'll definitely keep this in mind.

[Kate]

Night 3 legacy rainbow! Just in case.


Elo
Kate
Vivax2.0
Golden
DrWilgy
SVS
Michelle
sig
Sloonei
DFaraday
Quin
bea

Oh look scotty dropped a legacy rainbow. Interesting.

Also scotty this game is less fun without you.

Totally agree!

[Golden]

G-Man didn’t vote in self-defense. There’s two explanations for that in my mind. I read Sloonei as town, personally, so I lean more towards the town one. (There’s a third possibility too - “G was just too busy”)

1) G-Man and Sloonei are w/w. I could definitely see G being the type to take the hit over Sloonei because he felt Sloonei had more ‘win equity’. If sloon is mafia right now, not being nked isn’t even suspicious.

2) Sloonei is town, and G-Man wanted the wifom of people wanting to think the reason why he didn’t self-vote is (1). That’s why he made the post about Sloonei being a better town asset than him.

@Kate here are my sloon/g-man thoughts.

Also because I’ve been so absent I couldn’t figure out when or on what page I posted this so I had to iso myself. Guys, I’m sorry for all the times you’ve isoed me over the years.

[Golden]

Two days in a row I plant counterwagon votes and the person I vote no u’s me.

Like, I have thoughts. Some of them are ‘if you’re town, can’t you get on board with subtext’ thoughts. Others are ‘if you’re bad, am I putting you under pressure’ thoughts.

But my main thought is what I said to svs yesterday. I would have ultimately voted to save Sloonei if needed (and kinda did) but bea is ‘winning’ the poll today and seems to have gone into antispew because Sloonei, someone who I think is civ, is a viable counter option.

I believe in being accountable for how you vote and use an explanation, but I think it’s problematic (and this goes beyond myself, it’s problematic on a level of solving the game well), if people are discouraged for voting in ways that create pressure and the opportunity for mafia to show themselves, for me that’s a net negative to the town.

[Michelle]

Night 3 legacy rainbow! Just in case.


Elo
Kate
Vivax2.0
Golden
DrWilgy
SVS
Michelle
sig
Sloonei
DFaraday
Quin
bea

Oh look scotty dropped a legacy rainbow. Interesting.

Also scotty this game is less fun without you.

He had Kate up in the reads, and also Vivax 2, based on NAA iirc
In Sloonei's analysis about Vivax, he has him as the second suspicious slot after Bea.

I let this for the morning though

[Michelle]

Two days in a row I plant counterwagon votes and the person I vote no u’s me.

Like, I have thoughts. Some of them are ‘if you’re town, can’t you get on board with subtext’ thoughts. Others are ‘if you’re bad, am I putting you under pressure’ thoughts.

But my main thought is what I said to svs yesterday. I would have ultimately voted to save Sloonei if needed (and kinda did) but bea is ‘winning’ the poll today and seems to have gone into antispew because Sloonei, someone who I think is civ, is a viable counter option.

I believe in being accountable for how you vote and use an explanation, but I think it’s problematic (and this goes beyond myself, it’s problematic on a level of solving the game well), if people are discouraged for voting in ways that create pressure and the opportunity for mafia to show themselves, for me that’s a net negative to the town.

If Bea is outed wolf there is not much to say.
I play usually at MU where the day ends in most of the games when majority is reached. Often town forces the majj to end the day in such cases.

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Who burninated Scotty?
Poll runs till Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


bea
8
40%
Voters: Elohcin, Michelle, sig, A Person, Sloonei, S~V~S, Kate, DrWilgy
DFaraday
2
10%
Voters: Golden, Vivax
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Elohcin
1
5%
Voters: Quin
Golden
1
5%
Voters: DFaraday
Kate
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Quin
0
No votes
Voters: None
S~V~S
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
Vivax
0
No votes
Voters: None
Trogdor! (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
8
40%
Voters: thellama73, nutella, JaggedJimmyJay, Epignosis, juliets, Matahari, Scotty, Spacedaisy
Total votes: 20

And the VC

[Golden]

Also, @Golden how strong of a town read on sloonie do you have? If your strongly leaning civ, do you have any explanation as to gman's bizarre exit? @sloonei, I'd love to hear what you think about this as well.

Golden, I saw you mentioned me upthread. You, of all players, in this specific game I thought would know I'm civ and would even guess my role. I think if you read the posts, you'll see that it's in there.

Also in respect of your question about Sloonei.

My read of Sloonei is kinda like the read you think I should have on you.

Can you reformulate the last sentence for me please?

I have Sloonei in a specific civ role on my (metaphorical) spreadsheet.

[Golden]

Two days in a row I plant counterwagon votes and the person I vote no u’s me.

Like, I have thoughts. Some of them are ‘if you’re town, can’t you get on board with subtext’ thoughts. Others are ‘if you’re bad, am I putting you under pressure’ thoughts.

But my main thought is what I said to svs yesterday. I would have ultimately voted to save Sloonei if needed (and kinda did) but bea is ‘winning’ the poll today and seems to have gone into antispew because Sloonei, someone who I think is civ, is a viable counter option.

I believe in being accountable for how you vote and use an explanation, but I think it’s problematic (and this goes beyond myself, it’s problematic on a level of solving the game well), if people are discouraged for voting in ways that create pressure and the opportunity for mafia to show themselves, for me that’s a net negative to the town.

If Bea is outed wolf there is not much to say.
I play usually at MU where the day ends in most of the games when majority is reached. Often town forces the majj to end the day in such cases.

The MU hammers are not my favourite. But the last time I played there I was mafia and manipulated a couple of hammers to my ends to win.

There’s a philosophical thing going on here about the purpose of a vote that I find frustrating but it also feeds in to why I like non-changeable votes to begin with.

[Golden]

Also, hi Michelle. I don’t think I’ve interacted with you before. Maybe on say one, but if so I don’t remember. Nice to meet you, to me you are a vacuum in my reads and I intend to change that.

[Golden]

Day* one

[Kate]

G-Man didn’t vote in self-defense. There’s two explanations for that in my mind. I read Sloonei as town, personally, so I lean more towards the town one. (There’s a third possibility too - “G was just too busy”)

1) G-Man and Sloonei are w/w. I could definitely see G being the type to take the hit over Sloonei because he felt Sloonei had more ‘win equity’. If sloon is mafia right now, not being nked isn’t even suspicious.

2) Sloonei is town, and G-Man wanted the wifom of people wanting to think the reason why he didn’t self-vote is (1). That’s why he made the post about Sloonei being a better town asset than him.

@Kate here are my sloon/g-man thoughts.

Also because I’ve been so absent I couldn’t figure out when or on what page I posted this so I had to iso myself. Guys, I’m sorry for all the times you’ve isoed me over the years.

But, if I understand your posts, option 1 is highly unlikely?

[Golden]

G-Man didn’t vote in self-defense. There’s two explanations for that in my mind. I read Sloonei as town, personally, so I lean more towards the town one. (There’s a third possibility too - “G was just too busy”)

1) G-Man and Sloonei are w/w. I could definitely see G being the type to take the hit over Sloonei because he felt Sloonei had more ‘win equity’. If sloon is mafia right now, not being nked isn’t even suspicious.

2) Sloonei is town, and G-Man wanted the wifom of people wanting to think the reason why he didn’t self-vote is (1). That’s why he made the post about Sloonei being a better town asset than him.

@Kate here are my sloon/g-man thoughts.

Also because I’ve been so absent I couldn’t figure out when or on what page I posted this so I had to iso myself. Guys, I’m sorry for all the times you’ve isoed me over the years.

But, if I understand your posts, option 1 is highly unlikely?

My view is option one is highly unlikely.

[Vivax]

I only caught one voting with me on the garbo wagon that I‘m on, Sloonei still only seems to spot me on the playerlist which is unfortunate.

Ah well