The Syndicate

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:48 am Lol damn I thought we had it. Oh well. Good game all and thanks for hosting G!

Well played, fingers!

Oh.

Gg, mafia.

Thanks for the game @G-Man !

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:03 pm Remember me when the tides shift blue and the skies are grey.
Remember me when you realise who it is who holds sway,
The darkest night becalms with healthy rise,
When green the blood of he who dies.

Aw, nice job buddying me, buddy <3

But what they didn't know, was that Dizzy had TMI that Ender was town.
Not the other way around...

Jay/Boq/?

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:00 pm Did anyone even have a wolf game from Ender for comparison?

Yes, he was just wolf in champs. And it's been talked about a lot.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:56 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:51 pm This probably clears Rondo more if Ender is w

If ender is v though. Oh lord. Have fun. Jay/Boq probably. Creature a possibility, but I would never go there first.

If Ender is v, Marmot is in charge, ok? Ok.
Isn't Marmot wolfreading Ender too?

Yeah, but I think he's town. He should be in charge imo

You know, sometimes town wolf read other town. Can you imagine

@Alison Who are your PoE if Ender is v?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:55 pm Alison you just might hit 10,000 posts this game.

Please hit it in the same game I did!

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:52 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:51 pm This probably clears Rondo more if Ender is w

If ender is v though. Oh lord. Have fun. Jay/Boq probably. Creature a possibility, but I would never go there first.

If Ender is v, Marmot is in charge, ok? Ok.

Imagine the thread listening to me after a fifth townie who scumread me dies. :wowee:

But that is my legacy nonetheless. And if you snowed me, you deserve it.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:48 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:47 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:45 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:44 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:39 pm [VOTE: Endy] aubergine
Why this vote tbh?
I wanted ender dead d2, I didn't actually have any new reasoning enough to push me over the edge for anyone else since then, my intuition should be trusted
You voted sleep D2
only to avoid wigly splitting the vote, I voted ender until 4m from eod

Oh. Ok then

This probably clears Rondo more if Ender is w

If ender is v though. Oh lord. Have fun. Jay/Boq probably. Creature a possibility, but I would never go there first.

If Ender is v, Marmot is in charge, ok? Ok.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:49 pm I actually townread Dizzy now. He's no longer POE.

Just wanted to say that before EOD.

Yay!

Get rekt, wolves

Ender, I'm sorry, but I'll have to bus you. It was fun openwolfing with you.

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

I actually wanted the votes to be closer, so that we could see if Ender came back in to try and snipe. Not that it would reveal much

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:46 pmYou're the last name on Mac's list besides me and your votes also seemed the most openly opportunistic.

Gurl. You think every vote is opportunistic lol

Anyway, not about to discuss this.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:45 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:44 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:39 pm [VOTE: Endy] aubergine
Why this vote tbh?
I wanted ender dead d2, I didn't actually have any new reasoning enough to push me over the edge for anyone else since then, my intuition should be trusted

You voted sleep D2

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:44 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:42 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:37 pm I'm getting pussyfoot on the Ender lynch now because of that legacy
Never seen a wagon you've actually liked this game, have you?
I liked Ender's wagon until now. Also I've liked wagoning you D1 and Dyslexicon other days.

The latter does not reflect well upon you. Bad, Creature. Bad.

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:43 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:42 pm If Ender is w, I'm pretty sure Nate is w too
oy

You rang?

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:39 pm [VOTE: Endy] aubergine

Why this vote tbh?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:42 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:42 pm If Ender is w, I'm pretty sure Nate is w too

why for?

I already talked about this some. But let's see the flip first tbh

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:41 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:40 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:38 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:37 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:34 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:33 pm Dizzy getting close to be replaced as my in-game bestie tbh

Alison and I are going to laser tag and you're not invited tbh
Goodnight tbqh!
Rude tbqh imho
You're the one wearing flipflops tbh
Dizzy and I are having waffles for breakfast, you aren't invited tbh

Did I spend the night tbh?

If Ender is w, I'm pretty sure Nate is w too

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:39 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:37 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:34 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:33 pm Dizzy getting close to be replaced as my in-game bestie tbh

Alison and I are going to laser tag and you're not invited tbh
Goodnight tbqh!
I don't like laser tag. Have fun with Dizzy.

Me neither.

Let's go read books or something instead tbh

BAI BOQ

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:39 pm Tbh, the fact that Ender left by saying that there is a wolf in each of three groups of people instead of saying who his top three scumreads are is kinda wolfy.

Silently, my hopes for Ender w is going up as well

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:38 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:32 pm @Alison I'm a little bit puzzled about you thinking a red flip on Creature will give us nothing. Wouldn't that also blow up the game? I don't think he has that many likely teammates, does he?
I exaggerated it a little bit, obviously a red flip is pretty good news for us regardless.

I think enough people have shielded Creature, softly or otherwise, that it's not immediately obvious who his teammates are. I'd start by clearing the people on his wagon, no other clear immediately jumps to mind.

Another way to put it is that Ender or Jay flipping either alignment means that I know for sure who I'm going to lockvote D4. I don't actually know who I'd end up voting if Creature is red.

I should be cleared from a Creature red flip tbh

But ok tbh

Will you vote Jay if Ender is town tbh?

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:37 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:34 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:33 pm Dizzy getting close to be replaced as my in-game bestie tbh

Alison and I are going to laser tag and you're not invited tbh
Goodnight tbqh!

Rude tbqh imho

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:35 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:34 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:32 pmI do remember this case very well, and is one of the recent points that has me leaning town on Jay.

I don't see scum!Jay attempting to back off of his case on you while Dizzy is simultaneously pushing him pretty hard unless you/Jay are exactly teammates.
Which is the world we're probably in if Ender is about to flip town here. Recall Boq's null reading of Jay. I won't be here to try and do something about that if this is the case though. But remember this please

Boq just posted a towncase of Jay though. When was it null tbh

At the beginning of the game when everyone town read Jay. Which is why it's strange tbh

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:34 pmI don't think the NK says anything about Creature either way. If creature's a wolf I think it would be more about his teammates than him.

Full thoughts on Ender?

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:33 pm Dizzy getting close to be replaced as my in-game bestie tbh

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:32 pmI do remember this case very well, and is one of the recent points that has me leaning town on Jay.

I don't see scum!Jay attempting to back off of his case on you while Dizzy is simultaneously pushing him pretty hard unless you/Jay are exactly teammates.

Which is the world we're probably in if Ender is about to flip town here. Recall Boq's null reading of Jay. I won't be here to try and do something about that if this is the case though. But remember this please

@Alison I'm a little bit puzzled about you thinking a red flip on Creature will give us nothing. Wouldn't that also blow up the game? I don't think he has that many likely teammates, does he?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:29 pmI don't know if that's true, that the scum chat would have teammates that would talk about these things. I've been in a lot of games where the scum chat is simply dead, or where they mostly chat about fluff. I don't know that Seanzie townreading Creature is something that would be a hot topic of discussion in the wolf chat.

This is a nitpick though. I am positive on Creature still.

I agree with this.

I'm not that confident on Creature being town. I think his whining about wagons every game day has been a bit overblown. And he's been doing it while at the same time considered some of those wagons. Just felt weird. I haven't seen this version of Creature before tbh

A town flip on Creature would be worse for the game than a town flip on Ender though.

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:29 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:22 pm Ender w: Nate/Lucy/Rondo/Boq

Ender v: Jay/Boq/Creature/?

This could probably look different, but yeah
I see. I am scum candidate regardless of Ender's flip tbh

Yes tbh

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:29 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:22 pm Ender w: Nate/Lucy/Rondo/Boq

Ender v: Jay/Boq/Creature/?

This could probably look different, but yeah
Not sure how I should feel about this

I could take you out tbh. Alison is right

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:25 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:22 pm Ender w: Nate/Lucy/Rondo/Boq

Ender v: Jay/Boq/Creature/?

This could probably look different, but yeah
I actually think if Ender is W, Rondo is likely town because of how careful Ender seems to be around Rondo. (He claims it's how he treats Rondo every game, but Rondo has refused to corroborate this and if Ender is wolf I'm just going to assume he was full of shit about that.)

I also think that an Ender W flip would suggest his wagon is mostly pure since I don't think mafia would feel compelled to bus Ender right now when they could easily justify a vote on Jay.

Could be right about Rondo. Probably.

Not so sure on Boq for the last one. But PoE would be small imo.

Ender w: Nate/Lucy/Rondo/Boq

Ender v: Jay/Boq/Creature/?

This could probably look different, but yeah

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:13 pmI'm serious though.

While I am a little hesitant on Alison's "what's my agenda" post, because it could like she's putting fingersplints off until another day, I generally agree with it and think it's a reasonable look for her.

There are some things Creature has done that stick out as townie to me. One post in particular I thought looked uninformed.

So I'm left at Ender and Jay of the current wagons. I would entertain lucy again, but I don't think the thread would support it (just Boq I think). And I'd vote Ender over Jay of those two.

Yeah. I'd vote Jay over Ender. Probably.

But chopping Ender here is kind of win for me anyway no matter how he flips.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:08 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:05 pm I have decided to bury my tinfoil on Marmot too.
Progress.

If that is true, one of Ender and Jay should really be mafia. I'm currently on Jay. But I want to vote between these two today. I agree with Alison.

I don't think a Creature chop gives us much, as much as I don't really trust him or see where he's coming from.
Come vote Ender with me

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

BAHAHAHAHAHA

Don't leak our conversations in wolf chat, silly!

Watch this end up with me voting Ender lolol

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:07 pmif it's a real desire you hold in your heart, yes you are

But it's also very romantic.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:05 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:04 pm I just think he kind of ignored it? It seems like you were very confident, and he kind of shrugged it off, I feel. I don't feel like he really considered it. I don't know how correct that is, but that is how I feel.
I talked with Marmot directly about fingersplints and refrained from making her a top priority pursuit largely because of Marmot's perspective, along with some initial inklings I noted myself early in the game.

Am I silly for wanting to chop you here, Jimmay?

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:04 pm Why are Dyslexicon and EnderWiggin almost always voting together?

Weren't we openwolfing or something?

If it's any consolation, I would most likely vote with Sean today if he was alive.

I have decided to bury my tinfoil on Marmot too.
Progress.

If that is true, one of Ender and Jay should really be mafia. I'm currently on Jay. But I want to vote between these two today. I agree with Alison.

I don't think a Creature chop gives us much, as much as I don't really trust him or see where he's coming from.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:37 pmI do agree with you on several of these points tbh.

Although can you talk more about his "being weird on my town case of fingers"? I can think of a few reasons why Jay might act weird around that, but I'm curious why you say that.

But in particular, I agree that Jay undermining his own work seems kinda sus. Why go to all that work if it doesn't provide useful ouput or information to work with?

I know Jay didn't support a Wilgy yeet. He wasn't very vocal about it, but I do know he didn't support it at least.

I just think he kind of ignored it? It seems like you were very confident, and he kind of shrugged it off, I feel. I don't feel like he really considered it. I don't know how correct that is, but that is how I feel.

Who are Creature's partners if he's w?

I think Alison can be off the table for me today.
So that is progress.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:56 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:55 pm What if the team is Ender/Boq/Nate instead and I am a wowee. What if.
Can you tell me something about Ender/Nate as a pair

Ender is having suspicions on Nate, but not going there or following through on it.
I don't recall Nate talking much about Ender. He probably did. But he has been mostly focused on Creature and Fingers.
I just think they are compatible.

I don't think Ender is compatible with you, Alison, Marmot and Fingers off the top of my head. And as much as people like to think me and Ender are openwolfing or what not, I know I am town. So he's one of the fewer people I could see teamed with him in the case I'm just wrong and he is mafia.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:55 pm @Dyslexicon If I am mafia and finger is town why do I relent on her today? I could have very easily refused to give her credit for her "frustrated" post, citing the well known fact that I scumread AtE. She is a very viable wagon today and isn't here to defend herself. I am clearly not gonna pocket her with my "pass". What is my agenda there? Is it just WIFOM?

True. I like this.

What if the team is Ender/Boq/Nate instead and I am a wowee. What if.

@Boquise @lucy I think you should both get your votes on the board soon tbh tbh

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