The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:03 pm @S~V~S I am currently reading American Gods.

I noticed your references! I wasn’t sure if it was to the book or my game, since I know Llama loved that game.

It’s a great book; it changed a lot about how I think of society in general. I hope you enjoy it!

Thanks for the welcome!

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:06 pm Welcome SVS, you were the person I was most sad you weren’t in the player list to begin, glad you’re here!

Also Heiots though

Heiots she was too sweet for Mafia.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:00 pm It has been a hot minute since I played with SVS. Welcome!

Thanks! Good (but weird) to be here.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:25 pm Yay! Welcome SVS!

Did anyone tell you how to multiquote? I saw you asked earlier? you hit the quotation mark in the upper right of the first post you want to quote (I have the dark screen, it may be different on a light background). Then when you're in the posting screen, hit "Expand View" over the top of the last post directly under your posting window, and hit the quote mark in the post you want to quote. there might be a better, newer way, but I don't know it.

I'm working on a megapost, bbl.

OK, glad to be here! I have been following the game, and have some pretty defined opinions. I work M-F 8-5, and am very unlikely to be able to post during those times, just an FYI.

First to clear up a few things. DH and i have played together for YEARS, as teammates, as adversaries, we played D&D together for a while. One thing I know about DH, when DH is bad, he takes his frustration to the chat. He's calm, he spends much more time playing nice when he's bad. I'm watching this classic thread derail (and again, this is something I know about, have derailed more than one thread with him and others) yelling at my monitor, "HE'S A CIV". @Kate I'm talking to you, I think that was a civ/civ situation. Classic.

And I have his role card now, and can guarantee you he was a civ. @DharmaHelper thanks for what you said in the Zero poll

OK, I am NOT a fan of naming civs, the baddies do get to NK people, but they also still have to lynch people. And if everyone thinks person X is civ, they can't lynch them, that cuts down their chances for opportunism. That said, in "Modern" (@Scotty )mafia, that apparently is not the case, so I will give general impressions of everyone. There are a few people I will not lynch, and I will work hard against a lynch wagon on any of them, should one form. And that's all I'm saying about that.

I left the dead on the list for my reasons. I will go between ped and sarc to make it easier to read. I have more firmly formed opinions on some than others.

Are the polls posted? I thought I saw them, but I'm not sure where they are. Can someone help a girl out? Also was there much voting without posting? I saw some discussion of it, but didn't really watch the poll while following.

THE AMAZING PLAYERS!
bea- Bea! Come out and play, I am not thrilled with the Bea I'm seeing. I know time is tight, but I am missing your insights. I could vote for her.
DFaraday- As always very quiet. I do know he is responsible when bad. If he's missing votes, not sure bad DF would do so. But it's been years, so I have to look at votes.
DharmaHelper-Such a civ it's a shame you all missed it.
DrWilgy-He's licking people? This seems like standard Wilgy chaos? I can never tell with him. What does his voting record look like?
Elohcin- I think she's likely civ, unless her game has changed tons (and iirc she said she doesn't play much?) I have nothing to question here.
fingersplints-I am curious about those saying Splints was most def civ, but saying Kate self targeted. What did Splints do that was so civvie? If the rez comes up, I'll be voting Llama as of now.
G-Man- I could vote here. I have seen both G men, bad and good, and he is a stellar civ, a self conscious baddie. Halloween weekend, he's a Dad. Give me more G, man. You're looking self conscious.
Golden-I am super conflicted here. He looks like civ Golden, he sounds like civ Golden, but his conclusions are very different than mine. So definite middle ground for me.
Kate- I KNOW Kate, and like DH, she would NEVER have that hissy thing in thread if she was bad. When she was OT'ed she was here like all the time. I would be amazed if she was bad
thellama73- I think he was a civ, and as of now, he has my rez vote should that be triggered.
Lorab- I am flummoxed that any pre-Syndicate old timey players suspected her. She always looks shady to those newer to her. Did Bea vote for her?
Michelle- I know i played with her once or so, I have zero impression of her here except "blendy". Those who know her, is this her norm? If not, I could vote here, too.
NotAnAxehole-I thought he was bad. I especially thought his suggestion of a firedrill was bad, but that could be my bias. I have to compare Vivax1 to Vivax2. Haven't done that yet.
Quin-TBH, quin/Scotty/Golden/Llama were all blending in for me a bit while I was following, I need to read him. I have no impression of him, and I should.
Scotty-I think he's probably a civ. I grossly misread him once, and the person I am seeing here is that person. Anyone have a recent Scotty bad game I could see?
sig- Blendy sig is blendy. Is this still the case? Not seeing anything overtly scary, I need opinions here.
Sloonei-I am not seeing the civ Sloonei I knew and feared, but he may have changed up his game? Could I see recent good/bads for him maybe?
Vivax- Like I said, I felt NAA was bad, but it was for mainly undefined reasons. Vivax seems more civ, but I need to do a read on him tbh

So where is everyone else at?

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:35 pm Has anyone completed a recount of yesterday's vote and compiled the order? I'm not sure that's worded right... If not, does anyone plan to? I think yesterday's lynch could give us some valuable info.

This ^^ I could use some poll help, and it's a good way to get discussion going.

Also I saw that at least one person gave bea a civ read because her insanification was townie-like, iirc. Can that person explain why? It was maybe Golden or Sloonei?

Why was her OT so civvieish?

I am going to actually [VOTE: bea] aubergine now just to let her know I love her and want her to come and play <3

Beas first substantive post (it's big, so i put it in spoilers) It's her 9th post, the first 8 were fluff.

I will she she is hella concerned with DFaraday.

It starts with Splints questioning Llama as to why he left DF out of his low posters list. Bea seems more concerned with defending Faraday than working with Splints main point, that Llamas low poster list was incomplete.

Then Golden/Michelle discuss lynching low posters, and beas thoughts on that are also about DF:

Bea said: This all vibes better for golden imo. Far too many mafia games lose civ DF for low posting right out the gate if memory serves correctly.

A few posts later, Sloonei tries to draw her out, this back and forth makes Sloonei look better to me.

bea wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:26 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:20 pm

bea wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:15 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:07 pm @bea Which players in this game are/were you most familiar with in those bygone days?

1) Most experience playing with: DF, DH, Splintsy, G-man, Golden, Kate, Lorab.

2) Mid-teir: Dr. Wgy, llamaloo, quin, scotty, sug, you.

3) New to me: Michelle, Axe, Vivax.

What are your first impressions of the new-to-you folks?

Michelle gives me mo reason to worry about her yet.
Viv seems quiet.
Axe confuses me. Cant figure out if he is srrs, joking or on lsd.

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:23 pm Bea‘s avi looks like a croupier kitty. Tone worries me a bit.

May move Sloonei to town for that certain ballsiness, but I suspect theirs is some lazy meta read from being used to seeing me post more energetically.

Hi Viv! The avi is actually Matt Smith's Doctor cosplay from a cat.

This here is a back/forth she had with Golden. this quote makes me think if one of them is bad, the other is not. This feels real, not even a little like teammate distancing.

bea wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:00 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:56 pm

bea wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:46 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:40 pm

bea wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:34 pm @Golden

Yes. I am most familiar with the people who played on sites before the syndicate.

I am unsure as to why you pointed this out Golden? Did you think I was avoiding the question of "Who are you most familiar with?"

No. It was just funny how perfect the breakdown was.

A no u moment here… but that felt like you were jumping at a shadow. Why did you read that post as having a hidden intent?

Because I am still trying to figure you out. I feel like my Golden gut monitor is off and I can't tell if it's from lack of practice reading you, your play style has changed or you are being weird.

I mean the third one is definitely true but that doesn’t mean other things are not.

Is getting an early read on me something you specifically want to do?

Old habits die hard. I usually had a pretty solid read on you early in the past. It was one of the things that helped to ground me so I am feeling a little shook up over my flippy flop about trusting you or not.

Then she seemed to not want to vote for ...DF? And Lorab, who we know was civ, and Kate, who I think is civ.

bea wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:24 pm 3 way tie - vote closes in little more than 30 minutes. I dont want to vote for any of the people who have votes. Quiet (possilbe miss of lynch) from df feels on brand, a post abput driving from lorab then nothing. No posts from kate. That has me worried. Ugh. Day 1.

@bea, What are your current thoughts on DFaraday? I am intrigued, I need to know.

And she did not vote for anyone, resulting in insanification, yes?

Next is also a big one, so I put it in spoilers. This is post insanification.
This makes me feel better about Vivax, and (who is "supatowloo??) less so about Bea. This is totally not true, imo. Civ Bea reminds me of Ms Marvel in a way, the last person you expect to throw on a cape and a mask, but there you go. It's early days, but I am not seeing even a shadow of that person. TBH I am conflicted though because she KNOWS I feel this way about her game, that she self deprecates a bit more than she should. She might not have said this had I been playing at that time. Had she said that when i was playing, i would have voted her then and not stopped till one of us was gone, lol, but i'll give her a pass for that statement here because I was not playing when she said it. But not helping me feel better.

Also, who was saying intentionally missing votes might be a strategy? Interesting thought. Bea was in thread 2 hours before the vote, and 40 minutes after it ended, and she was fairly active that night phase, discussing vote changing etc. That discussion led to to recall why I suspected NAA also, it was the fire drill as well as the not wanting to mark votes, just to switch them.

I found it!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:21 am Your efforts to provide comprehensible content while insanified are appreciated, Bea.

Also you can have a town read. Congratulations!

Was this the only reason you townread her? I would like to know what in her content up to the point that you said this leads you to townread her. Her content AFTER this point reads more town to me than before it tbh.

OK, that was a big ugly post, I have to read more, walk the dog and then be back.

Linki @Sloonei that's how this reads to me, so i guess i misunderstood.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:35 pm Vamoosing for a bit to get some work done (because, like it or not, playing mafia doesn't pay the bills). Here's where my ISO's stand so far:

Towncore:
-Bea
-Eloh
-G-Man
-Kate

POE:
-DF
-DrWilgy


More to come tonight.

From your discussion of her in the last post, I would have guessed your position on Bea was "leans Town", NOT "Towncore". I did not do her second half in detail yet, will I see it there?

Dog is looking angry, lol, bbl.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:37 pm SVS, it was me who said that, and it’s because:

1) bea used a consistent code to make it quite easy to understand (transfer all vowels one spot).
2) comment on things (whether by post or emoji) in a way that made me feel like they were important to her in terms of understanding the game
3) put in more effort than she could have gotten away with.

I also came in with a bea town read. I liked the way she interacted with me on day one. I’m not sure that scum bea picks me as her first civ to prod at.

I also have said that I legitimately can’t remember a time I played with bea when she was bad, so if you have meta reads about ‘bea’s scum game’, I’m not discounting them. I’m just taking her on the merits of what I’ve seen.

That's why I voted for her, I'm not trying to start a wagon, but I am trying to poke her, and to poke those who say they are town reading her for no real reason I can see. She spends alot more time talking about who she doesn't suspect than who she does. One of whom (LoRab) was civ, one of whom I think is civ (Kate), and DF who I expect would be more active if he were baddie. I am not seeing how this is civvie. Townreading civvies with wagons and not presenting a viable alternative is pretty SOP baddie. But I need to hear her and see what she says. I could be barking up the wrong tree here, I just hope to see her in here trying to talk me out of it.

Faraday has 4 posts, 3 of the 4 coming between 6:30 and 7 PM, in time to send a PM (which is not indicative of alignnment). @DFaraday come play with us.

Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:25 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:11 pm Also I saw that at least one person gave bea a civ read because her insanification was townie-like, iirc. Can that person explain why? It was maybe Golden or Sloonei?

Why was her OT so civvieish? Linki @Golden I see you explained that a few posts back. All the things that made me go Hmmm were you or Sloonei. What are your thoughts on Sloonei? I doubt I'll get to your ISO tonight.

I am going to actually [VOTE: bea] aubergine now just to let her know I love her and want her to come and play <3

You‘re looking in a similar way at the game state and am glad you replaced in.

Bea or Kate are acceptable wagons for me. We should be talking reads a lot more by D3 and not shy away from voting.

[VOTE: bea] aubergine

You agree with me re Bea, but not Kate? And you didn't actually vote. What are your reads other than Bea and Kate? Have you been licked? I haven't

But yeah, I would like to see more people talking tonight, I have to work tomorrow, and won't be around much until close to EOD.

Can anyone explain to me why they think Splints was NKed? She is an odd target, her posts were mostly fluff, she made a half hearted push to Faraday. She also made little push-ettes at Elo and Scotty. Otherwise not seeing her sterling civ content that got her NKed.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:58 pm @fingersplints - the reason please power starts with ‘if a dead player asks for a rez in the thread’

I haven’t gotten further yet. But maybe you could come back.

Do you still feel this way, as opposed to say, Llama? Llama had a ton of content.

I'm going to read a bit, be on and off.

EBWOP< in Vivax' quote up there, I accidentally typed this into the quote:

@Golden I see you explained that a few posts back. All the things that made me go Hmmm were you or Sloonei. What are your thoughts on Sloonei? I doubt I'll get to your ISO tonight.

@bea totally Ms Marvel, glowing with righteous indignation. I am seeing no element of that. No Noble Smiley which is very much civ bea to me. I don’t think it’s an overestimation. But it’s also very Meta.

What do you think of the Triumvirate of Content, Golden, Sloonei and Quin? And thanks for explaining “supalamaloo” I had no freaking idea

Thanks Golden for that. I’m not used to forum posting, I keep looking for the “like” button.

bea wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:06 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:49 pm @bea totally Ms Marvel, glowing with righteous indignation. I am seeing no element of that. No Noble Smiley which is very much civ bea to me. I don’t think it’s an overestimation. But it’s also very Meta.

What do you think of the Triumvirate of Content, Golden, Sloonei and Quin? And thanks for explaining “supalamaloo” I had no freaking idea

Good to know! I could have sworen I used a noble during insanified once or twice but I guess not. No. Wait. I was pouting alot. Lol.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:55 pm

bea wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:21 pm @Golden I was Donna Megle in the office mafia. Got you to vote with Diggz and I for a baddie win. Iirc that was the game I retired on Something abput spending a chunk of your anniversary weekend in sadona playing mafia even with your hubby, causes you to self examine lol I am also pretty sure ypu, Sophie and I were baddies on Rev once. Most awesome bts chat ever. Most absimal mafia defeat ever too. That said, I think your inability to remember it says something about my skill when I am mafia. My heart is always civ and I have a very hard time playing against that.

@Vivax I feel like I am missing addressing something you asked me - can you please help refesh my memory?

Oh! I remember donna, didn’t remember Donna was you though lol.

Donna was a convinent once in a lifetime sock who's "I dont give an eff" personalitly played well for my baddie desire to lay low and keep that baddie stink off me.

Linki:

Fwiw - I dont think the curse is a reason to take the day off either. I also think going forward, we have no reason to really assume that a player doesn't know this is comming for missing a vote.

@sig what happened to cause you to miss the vote when you were so involved up till then? Did you miss where it was figured out that my curse was likely do to vote skip?

Oh you might have used the noble; I mean I didn’t see the noble smiley in you if that makes sense. Also you missed my main (or I missed it if you answered it elsewhere), what do you think of Sloonei, Golden and Quin? All your thoughts have been mainly been on blendy folks. I have mixed feels on these three too, and could use help sorting them out.

Linki, waffly =/= blendy, I will reread. I was thinking blendy but waffly is a different breakfast

@Sloonei your Wilgy iso was classic, and hilarious. Multiple Thumbs up.

Linki <3 daffodils

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:20 pm DH is an odd taste as I kinda shouted "let's get em" and then was spooked I'm finding that quite afew others found them tasty.

Does that happen if DH is wolf? Yes but only if the DH was pure.

LoRab being a daffodil textured bread means maybe it was?

DH replaced out, I’m DH now.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:25 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:22 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:20 pm DH is an odd taste as I kinda shouted "let's get em" and then was spooked I'm finding that quite afew others found them tasty.

Does that happen if DH is wolf? Yes but only if the DH was pure.

LoRab being a daffodil textured bread means maybe it was?

DH replaced out, I’m DH now.

Hi SVSDH! What do you taste of?

This is scary because I recall W SVS being one of the most dangerous predators this side of the Nile.

I appreciate that and know it comes from a good place. Nice to see you.Cleopatra says Hi.

I am hoping I taste like lemon pie and sunshine, but that’s your decision.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:37 pm look at me multiquoting!!! Applause!

You’re a champ!

I know Eloh looks to be OT’d today. Did anyone miss the vote? Sig I think I read? Maybe Michelle?

For me the best way for civs to collaborate is to ask each other questions. This way we have baselines to go back to.

I have no usable experience with Michelle. I will read her tonight. Any opinions there? Who did she vote for?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:54 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:50 pm I know Eloh looks to be OT’d today. Did anyone miss the vote? Sig I think I read? Maybe Michelle?

For me the best way for civs to collaborate is to ask each other questions. This way we have baselines to go back to.

I have no usable experience with Michelle. I will read her tonight. Any opinions there? Who did she vote for?

The OT Green curse is a targeted ability. The mixed up vowel curse, as far as we can tell, is a result of missing the vote.

I know, I meant I know she can’t post today (Michelle did miss the vote, didn’t she?) but does anyone have opinions on her? Where is she on your spectrum? I’ve gotten the impression from what people have said that she’s generally not blendy, but she appears to be so here.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:04 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:26 amDF - a proper scum read at this point. DF is always quiet and I defended him on day 1 but it’s day 3 now…. And perpetual catch up mode. I don’t think civ DF is *this* quiet.

I actually think I'm the opposite. I feel more pressured to contribute as a baddie because I have teammates to look out for. I guess technically I do as a civ too, but it's less immediate.

Anyway, Scotty and G-Man are reading civ to me, mostly due to tone. DH, from what I've read, almost seems to want to die, and I'm getting the vibe that his recent posts are some kind of baddie ploy. I will put a vote on him for now, in the absence of strong reads on anyone else yet.

DH replaced out and I now am him, I’m not a baddie. But this post puts you, like Wilgy, more towards town for me.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:28 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:55 pm DFaraday- As always very quiet. I do know he is responsible when bad. If he's missing votes, not sure bad DF would do so. But it's been years, so I have to look at votes.

You’re quoting me with l’il noble faces, don’t forget to move your vote off me before tomorrow, buckaroo.

Nice post. Good points. That said, I’m glad he didn’t vote DH

I moved my pressure vote to G Man. Still hoping to see Ms Marvel @bea

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:45 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:20 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:16 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:03 pm @S~V~S I am currently reading American Gods.

I noticed your references! I wasn’t sure if it was to the book or my game, since I know Llama loved that game.

It’s a great book; it changed a lot about how I think of society in general. I hope you enjoy it!

I started the book because I remembered your game, and of course had to include it in here. Wild ride so far.

Spoiler: show

I didn't care for American Gods

dodges various thrown objects.

I just skimmed the set up for that game and it was pretty cool! Socks, a SK and a cult (I’m pretty sure cults aren’t a big game mechanic here). Simplified I would consider rerunning it.

Today has been fun and I hope we learned some things.

I’m gonna go take doggo out and go to bed in a few. I’m sorry DH had a bad experience, but I’m glad I’m getting to play.

I think DH/Kate was civ/civ, from a spectator perspective as a person with an extensive history with both. Knowing I’m civ now helps, but I would be super surprised if Kate were bad.

@Scotty

Mr Srs, the “Modern” crack was a joke, since you directed a remark using that specific word about it to someone, I think Kate. I just think use of that specific word is hyperbole when talking about a 5 year difference, as if we were Neanderthals or something. Just because a person has different methods doesn’t make them from the dark ages.

That said, you’re part of my town core if that makes you happy to hear it.

OK, reading Michelle. I know I played with her at least once, I recall her being a good player, but that's about it. Maybe one or both of us died early?

@Anyone; what does "AI" mean. Michelle says it alot and I am not sure what it means? Oh wait, does it mean "affiliation indicative" or something of that nature?

She had a few Yay game fluffy posts, then two vote posts in a row with no explanation. @Vivax and @DFaraday , do you have any insight on why she voted for you? Just demonstrating how voting works? Or checking that votes change? I wish i had time to read the thread in context, but i don't.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:31 am Votes should be expressed in the thread though, like this:
[VOTE: Vivax] aubergine

Let the little man whisper!

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:33 am [VOTE: Dfaraday] aubergine

OK, she was testing movable votes according to a later post, but I'm curious why she chose these people as opposed to anyone else? Like later on she implied her vote on him was a pressure vote, but this was her first mention of him. Same for Vivax iirc.

She had a light (one post) discussion with DH of aubergine and then they had a bit of discussion about Eloh and votes moving and who is more likely to read the roles, and so forth. She asks his opinion of a post of Slooneis, a few posts later she replies to him asking her which post with:

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:37 pm Right, so Sig is obviously mafia, right?

This one

Which DH said he thought was a joke? @Sloonei was it a joke? Maybe I should read myself, aka DH, I haven't done this and probably should. If I make it to the weekend, I will try to reread the whole thing in context, I followed along, but you miss alot of nuance when you aren't actually playing.

Anyhow, some more back and forth about Slooneis post, Eloh and the Adverbs (a good childrens book name?). She poked a bit at Wilgy, who had voted for her. Her Day 1 summary,

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:29 pm I think Dharma and Wilgy are villagers
I liked Scotty asking about the reason of receiving a town read

I have mixed feelings about Eloh I think they can go either way




I am sorry if I make any gender mistake, for players I don't know I will use they but I would appreciate help here.eta infos would be great!

Also I wish to know everyone's time zone.
I live in East Europe and for me is 10:30 pm now

I am US east Coast which i believe to be UTC-5 for the next week.

I agree with some of her conclusions here. I feel good about both Scotty and now Wilgy (he genuinely did not know I was the Artist Formerly Known as DH, I think. So if he's bad he didn't stop in his chatroom first. So it makes me feel better about someone who is, for me, hard to fathom at times. He could still be bad, but this makes me feel better about him. Same for Faraday), we agree that DH was A-OK, but I disagree re Eloh.

So far, Michelle remains in the middle zone for me, she seems to be stretching to find a suspicion.

This Golden post is the next chronologically in the thread from the last Michelle post ^^ and I am quoting it because it is pretty much how I feel about Eloh not reading roles, etc.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:29 pm I tihnk there's a lot of noise re Eloh.

I do have a very slight mafia read from her vote and unvote on sig, which did have a bit of a 'better not be seen on voting someone townread' vibe to me.

But I don't think her not reading roles or being generally a little D1 'don't expect me to be up with the play' is AI, not for Elo and probably not for quite a few people. Feels like noise/the thin edge of the wedge do a late day wagon.

She posted a snapshot of the poll then went on to vote Eloh a few posts later. She had some back and forth discussion with a few people re town reads, Vivax poked her a bit (I'm gonna read him after I read SVSv1)

Sha had some more back/forth with various people, but did not develop any more suspicions that I was aware of. I am not understanding why she susped Eloh in the first place?

Then she posted another poll, 45 mins before the day ended

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:15 pm

Spoiler: show

Who is getting a nine iron to the face?
Poll runs till Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


bea
0
No votes
Voters: None
DFaraday
0
No votes
Voters: None
DharmaHelper
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Elohcin
2
7%
Voters: Quin, Michelle
fingersplints
0
No votes
Voters: None
G-Man
1
4%
Voters: DharmaHelper
Golden
2
7%
Voters: G-Man, DrWilgy
Kate
0
No votes
Voters: None
thellama73
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lorab
1
4%
Voters: Scotty
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NotAnAxehole
0
No votes
Voters: None
Quin
1
4%
Voters: Golden
Scotty
1
4%
Voters: Kate
sig
1
4%
Voters: sig
Sloonei
4
14%
Voters: NotAnAxehole, fingersplints, Vivax, thellama73
Vivax
1
4%
Voters: Sloonei
Atlas (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
14
50%
Voters: juliets, Matahari, S~V~S, RondoDimBuckle, JaggedJimmyJay, Dyslexicon, NateTheLesser, nutella, MacDougall, lucy, Sabiplz, hollowkatt, Spacedaisy, Epignosis
Total votes: 28

VC now

OK, I am leaving Michelle here, will pick back up later. I do recall Michelle said she had weekend plans. This read so far has kept her firmly in the middle for me, I could go either way. I look forward to seeing what suspicions she may have developed from here.

I have to go get ready for work, then actually go there so I will be reading but am unlikley to post much other than a possible one liner here/there, home @6ish Eastern time. This is pretty much how weekdays will be for me.

@Sloonei am I where I am in your pack due to feels you had about DH, or something I have done? If the latter, what?

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:58 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:20 pm

bea wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:08 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:49 pm @bea totally Ms Marvel, glowing with righteous indignation. I am seeing no element of that. No Noble Smiley which is very much civ bea to me. I don’t think it’s an overestimation. But it’s also very Meta.

What do you think of the Triumvirate of Content, Golden, Sloonei and Quin? And thanks for explaining “supalamaloo” I had no freaking idea

Also, I have pretty good feelings about Golden, sloon and quin thus far. I mean, I guess I could be being conned, but they have all felt pretty genuine to me.

How is Quin part of the triumvirate but I’m not?

true tbh

I put them in it but not Scotty because for me, you, Sloonei and Golden are still null. I am not sure where to put you, even with all the posting you have done, lots of content, I couldn't place you while I felt that both Scotty (and llama while he lived) were civs. I was asking her this question as I asked it to clarify my thoughts on her and the three of you. That's why it's just the three of you.

Now really, work. Bye.

I have a flat, waiting for work to pick me up.

So while I’m waiting, Sloonei, Golden and Quin, what do you think of each other? I feel incrementally better about Golden, but then, he knows what I like to hear and how I like to hear it. If you have already said this ( and I bet you all may have) can you humor me and give me a snapshot of where you are now?

Thanks!

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:44 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:02 am It gets hard to townread Sloonei when his kneejerk reaction to suspicion is to vote what he assumes is LHF sussing him on a day where we should lynch correctly.

Oh no it’s ok you see he was just feeling whimsical

Are you his press agent?

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:21 pm @S~V~S
OA = Olagnomunt andacotavu

Thank you, I figured it out a few posts after. You are still in my mid zone, I have to finish my read. You’re safe from my vote today, though, unless some crazy thing happens like some baddie posts in the thread instead of the chat (which I have seen happen more than once lol). Even though it could be self induced I don’t like lynching people who can’t defend themselves. I mainly chose you to ISO since you were the only person who had a reasonable post count that I had no sense of at all.

That’s scary to me

I’m glad to see that Bea isn’t the only one who can post comprehensively with this insanity.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:35 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:31 am Votes should be expressed in the thread though, like this:
[VOTE: Vivax] aubergine

Let the little man whisper!

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:33 am [VOTE: Dfaraday] aubergine

Thot wos ot Vavox(1) ond Forodoy (2) er ruvursud
Wath ethur werds, thu lewust pesturs

Olse, A om glod yei indurstond my pests, SVS

Thanks for explaining. And it’s not too hard if you concentrate. I mainly noticed since Golden made it sound like Bea made some massive feat of civvie strength by being understandable.

@Vivax i would agree that that NK is unlikely to happen anytime soon or ever.

I think the baddies were sitting back, figuring they could spend two days taking out DH and then maybe even Kate when DH flipped civ.

So there’s a little scrambling going on here.

We really need to lynch a baddie today. There are 3, maybe 4, people I won’t vote for, and I would rather not vote for the insanified.

But although I still feel GMan is not his civ self, I could move.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:51 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:39 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:09 pm I think the baddies were sitting back, figuring they could spend two days taking out DH and then maybe even Kate when DH flipped civ.

So there’s a little scrambling going on here.

We really need to lynch a baddie today. There are 3, maybe 4, people I won’t vote for, and I would rather not vote for the insanified.

But although I still feel GMan is not his civ self, I could move.

I think at this point, no mercy should be given to someone with the simple letter switching insanity. It’s common knowledge since Day 2 when bea and DF got it.
Michelle and sig should get no passes today because of their affliction

A ogruu. Wu nuud uvuryenu te thank ot uvuryenu

I’ve been lynched while insanified, and it’s infuriating and frustrating, and I try to avoid it if possible as a courtesy. That said, neither insanified player is on my radar today. That said if someone I suspected were to show up OT posting tomorrow, I certainly would not oppose their lynch. But it would be … distasteful to me.

Linki Michelle, faraday had no idea DH had been replaced. Plus bad Faraday is quiet, too, but he makes his votes and shows up somewhat more. I am not feeling bad Faraday, but then, I have been playing with him over 10 years, and I couldn’t pull a civ meta for him, just a bad one. A vote for him would just be a low poster vote. I’d rather baddie hunt.

Also Happy Halloween!

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:12 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:04 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:51 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:39 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:09 pm I think the baddies were sitting back, figuring they could spend two days taking out DH and then maybe even Kate when DH flipped civ.

So there’s a little scrambling going on here.

We really need to lynch a baddie today. There are 3, maybe 4, people I won’t vote for, and I would rather not vote for the insanified.

But although I still feel GMan is not his civ self, I could move.

I think at this point, no mercy should be given to someone with the simple letter switching insanity. It’s common knowledge since Day 2 when bea and DF got it.
Michelle and sig should get no passes today because of their affliction

A ogruu. Wu nuud uvuryenu te thank ot uvuryenu

I’ve been lynched while insanified, and it’s infuriating and frustrating, and I try to avoid it if possible as a courtesy. That said, neither insanified player is on my radar today. That said if someone I suspected were to show up OT posting tomorrow, I certainly would not oppose their lynch. But it would be … distasteful to me.

Linki Michelle, faraday had no idea DH had been replaced. Plus bad Faraday is quiet, too, but he makes his votes and shows up somewhat more. I am not feeling bad Faraday, but then, I have been playing with him over 10 years, and I couldn’t pull a civ meta for him, just a bad one. A vote for him would just be a low poster vote. I’d rather baddie hunt.

Again, I want to reiterate that it is Michelle and dog’s own fault that they are insanified today. OT is one thing, but this is one is on them

And I will reiterate that I understand this. I am just explaining my position. You don’t have to agree with. It’s clear we dont play the same, but we do have to play together now and lynch baddies. Don’t make me wave the pedantic pink at you.

@Sloonei, I had asked you earlier if you have me on your baddie list because of DHs behavior, or my own. And if mine, what specifically?

@Sloonei the post above this I mangled the mention tags on phone ^^^^^

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:22 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:17 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:11 pm I'm glad that DF voted and posted at all. He doesn't really try to oversell his work which is a townie point in my books.

Hu as sulf censcaeis theigh, muonang hu con foku at

That is a good point that in my tiredness last night I felt looked towny. But you’re right, I can also see that going the opposite direction

I think he leans town, and don’t understand lynching a low poster when we have some excellent thread based suspicions in discussion

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:38 pm Eh, I probably should have edited out more of those quotes. I underlined the salient bits, hopefully it's clear.

Actually those points of G Mans are what give me pause about him. Because in some ways I don’t disagree. I also think there is probably a baddie in You/Quin/Sloonei. Right now I’m leaning towards Sloonei. I felt this way having just spectated the thread, and you have ameliorated it to some extent

linki @Sloonei wete talking about who we would vote for if the rezz were triggered.

Gotcha Golden, I missed that nuance.

TBH, if I have a posting requirement I call it a curse regardless of who afflicted me with it. Another player or host induced punishments alike.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:36 pm
A con't kuup lengur my uyus epun

Good Night!

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Might change it again but right now he’s my top suspect.

bea wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:35 pm Dgoing with the tie. I hope rev knows better than i do.

Wow Bea, spicy!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:56 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:46 pm

bea wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:35 pm Dgoing with the tie. I hope rev knows better than i do.

Wow Bea, spicy!

I do not think these two are partnered based on this post.

I’m surprised you couldn’t tell that based on previous posts. Sorting Bea is important to me and I am not seeing civ Bea, but I’m also not 100% sure I’m not seeing distracted i

What do you think you’ve done so civvie that G Man is willing to die for you? I am perplexed by his fatalism.

Ebwop,

… seeing distracted Bea.

Not sure where that rogue “i” came from.

That’s three people who were unaware that DH replaced out lol

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:02 pm Woo-Hoo, I can talk again.

I had a gut feeling about G-Man, but nothing specific to convince myself to suspect him. I think I'm going to start playing with intuition instead.

I was sad to see llama go yesterday.

I voted DH/SVS b/c I had a post all ready to post about his/her possible connection to the off topic green role. I actually started writing it BEFORE I got my PM about being off topic cursed and then couldn't post it.

I am curious to know your thoughts on this post @S~V~S

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:20 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:19 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:14 pm Kate is the most suspicious me vote, is what I'll say.

Why?

Because if I were mafia and I had the ability to take out someone's on topic discussions for a whole phase I would not waste it on Kate unless she was my teammate and asked me to do it and I wanted to keep her from being lynched for being inactive.

I can see a mafia DH throwing this theory out there to try and get civs to turn on a civ Kate.

But, alas, I'm behind several pages from not being home today and really need to get some sleep. I look forward to reading the thread tomorrow esp seeing how y'all came to vote sloon and G.

I think he was wrong? I don’t know when he made this post in relation to when he and Kate started their thang, but I disagree. I think Kate, and then you, must have said something to get the baddies attention.

Luckily we don’t have to worry about that particular baddie anymore.

Yay for getting a baddie! Bye G Man.

bea wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:34 pm I am a confused and no lies feel like any vote I make is rushed and illinformed.

Also i missed why svs voted sloon? It looked in the thread like she sused gman.

Because she can suspect more than one person?

My thoughts have clarified since my first post. I came in not being able to slot Golfen or Sloonei into a civ slot. Since then I feel better about Golden. I feel worse about Sloonei.

The voting was all over the place early on. When someone else voted for Sloonei, maybe Scotty or Vivax, not sure which, so I decided if a strong second train was to form I’d rather have it form on someone I suspected than on any of the others that already had votes. So either way someone I suspected got lynched. Which is what happened.

@Golden in your long linki post you said something about bad G Man meta. I had my one bad experience with him in your BSG game. We had a blast becasue we knew we couldn't win lol. We had so much fun, it's my Gold Standard of what BTS should be.

G Man was a very tentative baddie, a very self conscious baddie. When civ he goes in there and does his thing, doesn't care who thinks what of it. He used to do those self imposed restrictions like only posting in poetry or whatever. Civ G Man is exuberant and feels real. He doesn't care what anyone thinks about him. Bad G Man worries ALOT about what people think of him. He's self conscious and it shows. *THIS* G Man didn't feel real, he felt like he was being uber careful. The fact that he would not try to get people to vote for Sloonei makes me feel ways I don't know if I can express. I don't think bad G Man would so obviously save a teammate, if that is what they are. The other option is he was *trying* to paint a huge target on Sloonei by "saving" him. Which is also strange becasue living to fight another day is the baddie way.

Still, that makes much more sense to me, tbh, than such an obvious save, so I am not so sure I am right about Sloonei as I was before the lynch. I can't imagine why any baddie team would allow this to happen. I am conflicted; I still feel like I felt about Sloonei, but am not sure how to process G Man allowing himself to die rather than at least trying to lynch Sloonei.

In your game, as far as I recall, he never interacted directly with me. He never directly cast suspicion on me, and if he had an opinion on me, it was low level negative. Like he would say, in response to someone else, "I think SVS is making me nervous, she always does, she's a great baddie", but he wouldn't say, "SVS is a monster, and here are the posts showing why".

As for your good/bad looks re DH and G Man, I can't answer for him or how others interacted with him. When I volunteered to sub in, I told the hosts I only wanted to sub in as a civvie, since I didn't have the time or head space to be bad; I didn't have time for a chat and a thread. This is just me saying it, no way to prove it, but it's the Gods honest truth. Which you know I don't necessarily take seriously as an oath, but I know YOU do.

You know I am a high level performer, in both thread and chat. That would be too intense for me first game back after a long break. DH and I are similar players in that we are baddie centric. I knew he was a civvie, so I wasn't surprised when he was the one I subbed in for. He's (kinda like me) more a chaos player when civ, and more careful and confident when bad. I can't explain individual actions he took, but I'll try when asked.

It was very unusual for me to come in with a full reads list, civ or bad, and I'll make one again today after work.



@Anyone, can someone tell me how to make myself an ISO link, or make one for me? Or direct me to where it might be on the front page? It's a bitch searching my posts. If someone helps me out, I'll put it in my sig so it's available. Thanks

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:11 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:54 am
@Anyone, can someone tell me how to make myself an ISO link, or make one for me? Or direct me to where it might be on the front page? It's a bitch searching my posts. If someone helps me out, I'll put it in my sig so it's available. Thanks

There is a link under your avatar and name.

S~V~S
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