The Syndicate

Well, this has been a disappointing EOD.

I'm leaving my vote on Creature because that's my best guess.

*He doesn't feel like town Creature, who I have consistently been able to point out on D1
*His reads are stale and do not change with new information because they are fake
*He continually uses reasoning he knows is bad to push bad reads like saying that Mac scumread Anne so we should yeet Anne and then when called on this, he says he has formed an independent scumread on Anne (and myself) but can't articulate the actual reasons for it because the reason doesn't exist

I don't have a clue who the other two are, at least not to the point where I'd feel comfortable being like "This is my legacy plz follow it over your own reads when I'm dead" cause I fucking hope that town can solve tomorrow better than I solved today.

Anyway, I'm off work so I gotta go get ready for the Chicks concert. Should be fun and my wife deserves it because she let me drag her to RAW last summer. I'm sure to have more fun here than she had there. Maybe they'll even say something bad about George W Bush.

Good luck, have fun, etc

o7

Jack: Channels the Miz

Falcon: Too polite

Like honestly, who has spent more time solving today, me or Creature?

Who has spent more time solving, D4 me or entire game Creature?

I'd be offended if I thought you were town.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:16 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:52 pm @Schiavetto help me yeet Creature.

@DrWilgy and @falcon45ca and @pyxxy

By our powers combined, we can avoid another tragedy for the MafiaSyndicate Universe.
This doesn't help your case. You seem uninterested to solve.

I've got a solution or at least part of it. Now, I'm just trying to make sure we don't yeet me instead of that solution.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:05 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:52 pm @Schiavetto help me yeet Creature.

@DrWilgy and @falcon45ca and @pyxxy

By our powers combined, we can avoid another tragedy for the MafiaSyndicate Universe.
"help me yeet lhf" OkAy

Since when is Creature LHF?

@Schiavetto help me yeet Creature.

@DrWilgy and @falcon45ca and @pyxxy

By our powers combined, we can avoid another tragedy for the MafiaSyndicate Universe.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Are you a sheep or a wolf or a pig or what kind of animal are you anyway?

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:27 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 4:23 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:03 pm Here are the post counts from the start of Day 3. I screenshotted them before the night ended but was too lazy/forgetful to post them.

Spoiler: show
Neon: 160
obscurity: 130
anne: 79
DrWilgy: 75
Jackofhearts2005: 73
RondoDimBuckle: 67
lucy: 64
Creature: 63
Lilypetal: 60
Porscha: 37
Seanzie: 34
Schiavetto: 26
pyxxy: 25
falcom45ca: 23
NANOOK: 12
Ruro: 2

After Creature pointed out I wasn't post capped, I realized I had been counting from the start of D3, which would put me at like 100 posts. I'm not in antispew. I'm just super bad at timezones.

Spoiler: show
That's a joke. I'm super bad at checking that Sloonei's most recent postcount was for the day phase we were currently on

i'm wiling to believe mistake cuz idk wtf my post count is I just assume it's too low to not even worry about

but i'm still making squinty eyes at you

Why? I'm clearly townie. Everyone who actually isos me says so.

Creature and Lucy are just blindly following a player they know they shouldn't. Go count how many times it's been pointed out to Creature that Mac didn't even scumread Anne but he just stiffly gripping the Jack/Anne wolfread "cause Mac said so." Idk about Lucy but that's not town Creature. Town Creature actually has his own reads and they're actually good and based on things.

And then Pxxy doesn't scumread me at all.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:03 pm Here are the post counts from the start of Day 3. I screenshotted them before the night ended but was too lazy/forgetful to post them.

Spoiler: show
Neon: 160
obscurity: 130
anne: 79
DrWilgy: 75
Jackofhearts2005: 73
RondoDimBuckle: 67
lucy: 64
Creature: 63
Lilypetal: 60
Porscha: 37
Seanzie: 34
Schiavetto: 26
pyxxy: 25
falcom45ca: 23
NANOOK: 12
Ruro: 2

After Creature pointed out I wasn't post capped, I realized I had been counting from the start of D3, which would put me at like 100 posts. I'm not in antispew. I'm just super bad at timezones.

Spoiler: show

I think I'm over postcap so I'm gonna shut up now. If I get yeeted because I can't post because I burned my post count on jokes and joke appreciation, I'm very sorry.

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:27 pm Pyxxy why does your first letters keep cutting off?

Maybe their computer is super old and Pxxy is tying too fast for it to handle.

Falcon's iso isn't that great, actually. I still believe wolf Falcon would just be voting for me but I think my heart wants Falcon to be town more than my head thinks he is. Wilgy's not wrong. Just....bleh. I wanna give that slot another day. It's not impossible I'm giving the entire wolfteam another day.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:21 pm And that is if not Falcon. If Falcon the game gets much easier.

Engagement reading Falcon hasn't been wrong so far this year.

Let's say I'm wrong and Falcon is a wolf. Who is Falcon's partner in that much easier world?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:20 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:08 pm Wilgy, who else do you think is scum besides Falcon? Because I don't think Falcon is the way to go, today. Wolf Falcon would have just voted me by now.
1 wolf in Creature/Obscurity/Porscha maybe Anne/Neon if I'm starting to reassess the clears I gave them.

Schiavetto's slot can be a wolf.

Nook can be a wolf.

This gamestate doesn't point to you being wolf. Lucy/Seanzie I would need to be really hard pressed into revoking the Sabi clear. I don't see pyxxy's posts having a scum angle too. Hard to detour me from that one at this point.

I guess Creature and Neon were the players I was planning on reading anyway.

Speak of the devil

Porscha's iso is similar to Schia's in vibe. Like it's not impossible for this to be a wolf (you could say Porscha isn't outside of her wolfrange, Anne,) but I don't think it is.

I'm juggling around thoughts like am I just pocketed and incorrect? Is Lucy somehow pocketed an incorrect in spite of having basically having the exact reverse of my reads? Am I just an idiot for finding that exchange townie on Lucy's end?

Wilgy, who else do you think is scum besides Falcon? Because I don't think Falcon is the way to go, today. Wolf Falcon would have just voted me by now.

Fuck it.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:59 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:57 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:57 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:55 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:52 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:49 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:21 pm self pres or scum read? @Jackofhearts2005
Bit of both.
i think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before
I guess that answers that.

How do you feel about Creature?
i think he’s town because he’s independently having my same thoughts when most people aren’t and the fact it’s an unpopular view
What thoughts? He keeps just saying me and Anne are wolves without really explaining why.
creature is sheeping mac’s iso on you from my pov, but i reckon he’s right on anne and he’s scum leaning on obscurity i think which is really townie imo

Mac scumreads me 100% of the time on D1 regardless of his alignment or mine. And I either push him back or I ignore him based on my read on him. You can go back and check like a dozen games and it's the same every time. And Mac said his scumread on Anne was to protect her from getting nightkilled N1.

You can understand how I don't view "sheep dead townie, Mac" as a very good or townie reason to push to yeet me or Anne.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:57 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:55 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:52 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:49 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:21 pm self pres or scum read? @Jackofhearts2005
Bit of both.
i think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before
I guess that answers that.

How do you feel about Creature?
i think he’s town because he’s independently having my same thoughts when most people aren’t and the fact it’s an unpopular view

What thoughts? He keeps just saying me and Anne are wolves without really explaining why.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:53 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:47 pm @Jackofhearts2005 respectfully do you have terrible read accuracy and why did you TR Wigly/anne/obscurity?
Really depends on the game. Sometimes, I pick outmost of the wolfteam on day 1. Sometimes, I get pocketed hard.

Obscurity is just obviously town. Come on. He's trying to solve. He's trying not to tunnel. His reads make sense. Strongest townread, easily.

I think Anne looked good D1. Her interactions with Sabi don't look particularly teamed. She's kinda fallen off as the game went on and like...she's still alive but that's just tinfoil.

Wilgy tends to coast more as a wolf. He's interrogating people, here. I don't agree with some of his reads but I believe they're real reads.

Where you going with this?
i independently SR all those 3, then you’re here and i read your reads list where those 3 are all your top town. would lend me more credibility if you’ve had really terrible reads lists before

My reads in SF3 were kinda bad. My reads in Misplay mafia were kinda bad. But that's like 2 of my last 5ish towngames and I think I did good or at least decent in the rest.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:52 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:49 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:21 pm self pres or scum read? @Jackofhearts2005
Bit of both.
i think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before

I guess that answers that.

How do you feel about Creature?

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:47 pm @Jackofhearts2005 respectfully do you have terrible read accuracy and why did you TR Wigly/anne/obscurity?

Really depends on the game. Sometimes, I pick outmost of the wolfteam on day 1. Sometimes, I get pocketed hard.

Obscurity is just obviously town. Come on. He's trying to solve. He's trying not to tunnel. His reads make sense. Strongest townread, easily.

I think Anne looked good D1. Her interactions with Sabi don't look particularly teamed. She's kinda fallen off as the game went on and like...she's still alive but that's just tinfoil.

Wilgy tends to coast more as a wolf. He's interrogating people, here. I don't agree with some of his reads but I believe they're real reads.

Where you going with this?

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:21 pm self pres or scum read? @Jackofhearts2005

Bit of both.

Pxxy's iso is...also an iso. There's not much that's overtly good or bad about it. There are opinions, but they aren't strong. There is interaction with Sabi but it's softball while also not being explicitly partnery.

What sticks out the most to me is that Pxxy's strongest scumread seems to be Creature but Pxxy instead votes Lily, Nanook and Falcon.

Potential distancing with packmate Creature. No smoking gun. Wouldn't yeet this slot before Creature unless somebody sees something I don't.

anne wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:20 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:17 pm
anne wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:12 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:11 pm
anne wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:08 pm Also @Jackofhearts2005 wdym that Schia is "not out of wolf range"? What does that even mean? I feel like that's just using a buzzword to avoid townreading Schia while still holding a generally favorable view of them.
You're asking me to define "wolfrange?"
no, I'm asking you to define what you believe Schia's wolf range to be
Inclusive of this? Like the iso looks good, just not good enough for a locktown read.
that has nothing to do with schia's wolf range then so idk why you even said that at all

That's what a wolfrange is?

(Why is the first letter of most of Pxxy's posts cut off?)

anne wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:11 pm Imo Seanzie and Jack are difference checked so I'd probably kill Jack if Seanzie is town and vice versa. I feel like Seanzie would be more solid in presenting his reasons, even if it were on a micro level, if it were V/V. It's not hard to imagine a world where he's just pushing a bunk gamestate. On the other hand, Jack's play around Sabi slot is p bad and I don't sr everyone on his wagon so I could easily see that flipping wolf. The only thing is that a w!Jack suggests a pretty weird mafia team and idk if we're in that world so I might actually lean towards Seanzie being more likely mafia atp.

What's specifically bad about my play around Sabi?

anne wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:12 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:11 pm
anne wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:08 pm Also @Jackofhearts2005 wdym that Schia is "not out of wolf range"? What does that even mean? I feel like that's just using a buzzword to avoid townreading Schia while still holding a generally favorable view of them.
You're asking me to define "wolfrange?"
no, I'm asking you to define what you believe Schia's wolf range to be

Inclusive of this? Like the iso looks good, just not good enough for a locktown read.

anne wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:08 pm Also @Jackofhearts2005 wdym that Schia is "not out of wolf range"? What does that even mean? I feel like that's just using a buzzword to avoid townreading Schia while still holding a generally favorable view of them.

You're asking me to define "wolfrange?"

Schiavetto wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:16 am Like, if you want to see an actual game where w!Schia had to set up for a Jack mislim without outright pushing for the slot or outing partner in the process, you can read my semifinal - it's only 20some odd posts, very light reading [x]

Oh so you're the one I should blame for that? I've been blaming...*checks notes*...everyone.

Lol iirc, those were players off wagon at the time.

I don't feel like Schia is "badly pushing Jack" though. And I'm an expert at that kinda thing.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:57 am
Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:10 pm jack vote is fine. creature mixup makes sense in the context of this from jack
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:46 pm And @falcon45ca @Schiavetto @porscha don't think I'm leaving you out of this. You don't know what to do!

You don't know whether to cheer or boo Lilypetal. You don't know whether to cheer or boo Ruri.

I'm curious. Who do you think that affects? You think that affects Lilypetal? You think that affects Ruri?

No!

It affects me, the only champion who has votes, the person who deserves to not be yeeted and to have his reads followed EACH AND EVERY DAY! And I am SICK! I am SICK OF NOT GETTING THE RESPECT I DESERVE!
which feels like your standard ~*~*~rule of three~*~*~ junk
Alright, so this is the post right?

Creature mixup has no meaning to me, care to elaborate?

Voting Jack for using a triplet is scummy. Rule of 3 is a yoke and I've never seen it catch scum.

That's cause it's an after the fact teammate tell.

Like if we knew Jack was scum, we assume one of Falcon, Schia, Porscha is scum. Scum don't make groups of three. Scum feel the need to mix their partners into lists of townies at about a rate of 1 out of every 3 players.

pxxy's iso is hard for me to read. Like...as a player who hasn't played with pxxy who is distracted by kids and work.

Schiavetto wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:37 am Feed me, Seymour

We need to hangout more on discord. I like your style a lot. Don't let that enter into your read on me, here.

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:23 am nah they could be easily. someone like NOOK feeds Ruri a decent claim. he does a weak reaction test then softball clears her for her reaction. which, she never pushed back at NOOK or said to clear NOOK, she said to kill Rondo.

Based on a misunderstanding, though.

Reframe it this way. Nook does a goofy push on Ruri. Ruri reacts to it in a super limp way to the point that she has a big wagon and Nanook is still pushing her even after her claim (and me, for some reason I still don't understand but whatever).

I guess that could have been a way to setup a bus or distance. In a Nanook/Ruri/Sabi/??? world, w!Nanook might feel the need to do that. I'm bad at telling "I am a wolf and I am pushing to misyeet a townie" apart from "I am a wolf and I am gonna bus the shit out of my mostly inactive partner" because they are both agenday pushes for a real yeet. That said, my line of thinking on Ruri's claim still stands so if Ruri is town, this isn't what's happening.

No results. Pushing submit anyway because the most important part of not getting yeeted is continually showing your townie mindset.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:21 am
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:18 am I guess Ruri could be mafia who was coached into a half-decent claim, /shrug.

It's true she's done legitimately nothing outside of the claim.
I think Nook would have to be a W with Ruri for this to be the case.

I'm of the opposite opinion. I don't think Ruri and Nanook are ever wolves together.

Pxxy is obviously town for having a minor in gender studies, which means they vote democrat.

Schia iso is also pretty empty but there are a few nuggets of chicken in there.

Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:26 pm
Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:20 pm Now somebody vote Sabi
Sigh, I'll do it.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:53 pm
Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:02 pm Page 1.
-Anne response to King!Cape suggestion feels cozy; not sure how I feel abt DrWilgy's being caught off-guard by it
-Greetings is like the most boring opener ever
-Hi Nanook

P2.
-Scotty on Sabi in #53, immediate reaction is "it's not that serious" but idk. Points for zeal?
-Neon & Porscha's tea party looks fun, wish I was invited
-Alison train is no longer funny as of Seanzie's vote
-78 like, makes sense.
-obscurity entrance w/ resignation from the get-go is a turnoff.
-Anne on Neon is chill
-86 from lucy feels self-conscious

P3.
-Oh cool Scotty is voting obscurity, go off king
-#111 Scattershot questions are Something, wonder what you do with them. Liked the rank request more than the questions.
-#116 trying to decide if I actually have an issue with this post's content or if it's just that the language feels overly wrought. Maybe bugs me that there's no apparent investment in what the playstyle actually is & if it's translating, just that it was mentioned? kinda limp.
-#120 hm.
-#122 hm!
-Seanzie is cool, I've decided.

P4.
-Happy to see Jack but admittedly a bit worried - I've heard he's unyeetable. What if he's a wolf, and the time comes for us to yeet him? We'd be SOL.
-oh hey it's lucy.
-175 i have a lot of cop stories but none of them are very happy, soz. fuck 12
-176 is pretty cool though, fuck 12
-183 call that a cold case, also fuck 12
-189 yeah more along these lines. fuck 12.
-Wilgy using some other player to read obsc feels skeezy.

P5.
-I think I dislike Wilgy's behavior around obscurity's no-outing-TRs-yet thing more than I dislike the thing itself
-what is mac doing

P6.
-254 from Sabi weird compared to their earlier stuff re: playstyle
-it's time for me to say it. i don't think genitals are funny. i know this makes me weird. i don't like fart jokes either. point and laugh, idc, i'm speaking my truth.
-Lilypetal vote from Cape is cool

P7.
-Feel like about here is where that weird energy I was getting from Scotty/Sabi when I came in started
-and just like then i'm kind of over it
-I have another take. American Dragon was like, just okay. Just okay.
-obsc on creature is Meh.

P8.
-This page is somehow more boring than page 5
-Scotty on Neon is blegh.

P9.
-Oh hey it's me.
HI I tried to track down these posts.

Can you expand on that?

The critiques abiut me was that I was stiff at start of the game because new play style and limited post. My style is a lot more flowy and careless so I do sound different.

Also sorry about the genitalia

I think these bits are town indicative. It's not a lock thing. I don't think Schia is out of their wolfrange. Still, gth, this is a town slot.

Schiavetto wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:25 pm It's midterms, every ballot counts

This is also a good joke.

(Lol this isn't the world we're in because this is a Sloonei game but wouldn't it be funny if Nanook was really a jester?)

Schiavetto wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:47 pm
Schiavetto wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:44 pm Gm.

Say it back >:(

lol cute

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:44 am Ruri's iso is....an iso that exists, technically.

It's damn near empty, claim aside. Like there's a jokey accusation that Seanzie is a wolf because Seanzie is voting for Ruri and a misunderstanding that Rondo was ccing doc but that's basically it.

The doc claim is believable. I would expect some sort of protective along the lines of a 2 shot doc to be in this game. It's also entirely possible that there's a different doc exists and isn't ccing or pushing Ruri because they don't want to out. Probably not, though, cause after 3 nights, another doc is probably out of shots and would just tackle Ruri.

So townlean but I'm not happy with the slot.

At the very least, we have time to wait until the wolves kill Ruri, the wolves kill the other doc or the other doc outs and tackles Ruri. If that never happens, lolwolves for confirming the slot by default.

Ruri's iso is....an iso that exists, technically.

It's damn near empty, claim aside. Like there's a jokey accusation that Seanzie is a wolf because Seanzie is voting for Ruri and a misunderstanding that Rondo was ccing doc but that's basically it.

The doc claim is believable. I would expect some sort of protective along the lines of a 2 shot doc to be in this game. It's also entirely possible that there's a different doc exists and isn't ccing or pushing Ruri because they don't want to out. Probably not, though, cause after 3 nights, another doc is probably out of shots and would just tackle Ruri.

So townlean but I'm not happy with the slot.

Like I didn't show up calendar yesterday, I have a concert to go to tonight for my wife's birthday (which was a few weeks ago but tickets were the gift I got her) and I just started hosting a mash. I replaced in to this game. I'm technically yeetable. I'm not gonna burn time going over stuff I've already gone over. I'm going to go dig into those nulls so that I leave a legacy and have a bunch of shit for anyone who is like "Idk I guess it's Jack" without actually bothering to look at me to look at.

Plus, it is indigenous people's day, which is super important to me as a person who is probably indigenous to somewhere.

Cya in a bit.

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:19 am Also yesterday you said one in Lily/Lucy but now Lucy isn't even on that list, why?

Because Lucy isn't null.

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:18 am Like why am I the only person you jumped at for pushing you yesterday when you don't even know me? Idk I'd think you'd care about the intentions of More than that if you're a villager and how your wagon may be wolf driven but you seem to just accept Seanzie there

Um...most of my jumping yesterday (in which I pinged like....everybody?) was paraphrasing famous Miz promos?

Tbh, it's Creature and Seanzie that seem to not be doing any solving in a lazy wolfy way. Nanook yesterday and in the one post I've just read of his today seems so far from what I'd expect from wolf Nanook. Like I don't think wolf Nanook fakes peeks and then gives the finger to everyone who doesn't like his play.

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