Hot Fuzz Mafia [GAME OVER]

[robyn]

I don't think that the Jack thing is a tell in how it's formatted at all but -

I'm bored

2.5 hours til EoD and I RaNdOmLy put mac into the lead with 3 votes.

What are the top 3 players you would be willing to vote for today, sabi?

Mac, Rondo, lucy and maybe cape.

Cape has felt towny lately ish so I'm swinging back and forth

I could genuinely see Sabi feeling compelled to put a partner here (in the 3rd position especially seems bad), which is a point against Lucy to me.

Obscurity, if i am town what does that tell you about the rest of sabi’s reads?

[robyn]

self pres or scum read? @Jackofhearts2005

[robyn]

wigly/anne/obscurity
is a team i see

[pyxxy]

yeah schia town

ven if lucy flips town?

maybe not but there would be more to evaluate and work with if we crossed that bridge to determine an answer

kay sorry I've been stewing on this for a bit, I really feel like Schiavetto has done squat since dropping a big catchup post D1

like you just re-read Schia, right? I think going one-by-one their posts read as slightly towny to me. But as a whole, there's very little effort at solving anything.
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and then their votes are all over the place
D1: Scotty [1]
D2: Sabiplz [9]
D3: lucy [1]: Schiavetto
today D4: back being alone on lcu

town, outed scum, ? vanity wagon ?

Schiavetto
- what does schia think about anne? is my question

it's a fine question, just trying to figure out why that in particular is your question for me in particular

like i can see the vill motivation for this question. but.

i haven't done too much this game &i feel like there would be more urgent lines of inquiry.

to answer you though, i had the thought going into D2 that anne had a lot of Good posts d1 but none that felt locking - when Mac came in pushing for the tri-dome part of why I poked at lucy was bc it felt weird being one of the only other ppl in thread at a time (early-phase) when it wouldve been helpful to have more movement around the three & i felt she was being avoidant. i don't think any of anne's treatment of sabi d2 was distinctly unpartnered & i did have the thought at one point that with sabi already outed it would make sense for partner!anne to railroad the lim anyway

it's not a world i'm super invested in living in though & there are other things to worry about imo

@Schiavetto, what other things? What more urgent lines of inquiry?

poke poke [VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

btw I asked how you felt about anne, schia, because in my mind there's really only two ways to read her slot, either her flipping sabi was a planned scum play, or it wasn't and anne should be conf!town. I think there is actually an argument for both, given Sabi didn't post for like ~8 hours or something yet managed to respond to anne's snipe in 6 minutes flat. Which to me hints at...and I'm still new so I don't know squat about setups...but could there be a daychat for mafia? Someone tell me I'm loony.

But being wishywashy on anne to me feels like you're not invested in the game, which makes sense if you're scum and the miskills are flowing and so you haven't had to pay any attention to what's actually going on. So up you go.

You've been stewing on a lot of secret little reads that you don't mention until the opportunity benefits you. Why not talk about them earlier? I remember at least two reads you've now noted you've had fire a bit but never mentioned until it was opportunistic.

hat's real, I should do better about speaking my mind since it doesn't really affect anything ty lucy

(catching up)

[pyxxy]

Actually I thought there was a comment Anne made early game when I ISO'd last night that looked good and a couple unpaired things with Sabi that were pretty strong but I'm annoyed she's supposed to be an S tier player and doing Jack shit

've been interpreting this behavior as her not wanting to be the NK so that she can carry us on her back and win the lategame o7 and I for one am willing to let it happen o7

[pyxxy]

pxxy's iso is hard for me to read. Like...as a player who hasn't played with pxxy who is distracted by kids and work.

sk neon for help, since scum!sabi is dead

[pyxxy]

Falcons ISO is poop

've been saying this!!

falcon45ca
- I'm not a fan
- still basically lurking
- cape vote felt weird
- NEVER ANSWERED ME ABOUT EOD D1
- lol
- rondo actually sr falcon, I swear (viewtopic.php?p=961894#p961894)
- let a vote sit on rondo for a loooooong time D2
- also spent a lot of time on creature

[robyn]

Actually I thought there was a comment Anne made early game when I ISO'd last night that looked good and a couple unpaired things with Sabi that were pretty strong but I'm annoyed she's supposed to be an S tier player and doing Jack shit

've been interpreting this behavior as her not wanting to be the NK so that she can carry us on her back and win the lategame o7 and I for one am willing to let it happen o7

flawed logic, she’d be fear killed by now
over rondo and scotty
i’m going to school now, pyxxy read rondo’s legacy again but assume it’s shit and that there’s scum mostly at the top and it’s very favorable for scum

[pyxxy]

poke poke [VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

btw I asked how you felt about anne, schia, because in my mind there's really only two ways to read her slot, either her flipping sabi was a planned scum play, or it wasn't and anne should be conf!town. I think there is actually an argument for both, given Sabi didn't post for like ~8 hours or something yet managed to respond to anne's snipe in 6 minutes flat. Which to me hints at...and I'm still new so I don't know squat about setups...but could there be a daychat for mafia? Someone tell me I'm loony.

But being wishywashy on anne to me feels like you're not invested in the game, which makes sense if you're scum and the miskills are flowing and so you haven't had to pay any attention to what's actually going on. So up you go.

what is your definition of wishywashy

i don't see wishywashy

a man is capable of holding more than a thought at a time

nd yet you seemed incapable of posting any of them until prodded but votes on you?

[robyn]

too bad rondo can't give his poe eh

Spoiler: show

Town:
Anne
Wilgy
Obscurity

Probably town:
Mac
Seanzie
Falcon
Rondo

Idk:
Neon
Nanook
Creature
Porscha
Pix
Ruri

One scum here:
Lucy
Lily

Scum:
Sabi

Roughly in order outside of the idk category.

Spoiler: show

Town:
Creature
Anne
Neon
Wilgy

Probably Town:
lucy
Jack
Pyxxy
Rondo

Protective?
Ruri

Null:
NANOOK
Schiavetto
Falcon
Porscha

Scum:
Seanzie
lilypetal

too bad rondo can't give his poe eh

ahhh here’s wigly

[pyxxy]

[VOTE: Nook] aubergine

lot twist :O

[robyn]

@Creature why are you going jack again, i’m much more confident in wigly/anne flips

[pyxxy]

Actually I thought there was a comment Anne made early game when I ISO'd last night that looked good and a couple unpaired things with Sabi that were pretty strong but I'm annoyed she's supposed to be an S tier player and doing Jack shit

've been interpreting this behavior as her not wanting to be the NK so that she can carry us on her back and win the lategame o7 and I for one am willing to let it happen o7

flawed logic, she’d be fear killed by now
over rondo and scotty
i’m going to school now, pyxxy read rondo’s legacy again but assume it’s shit and that there’s scum mostly at the top and it’s very favorable for scum

ight, so anne's either scum, or scum is convinced that attempting to NK her is a bad idea (which is why I asked schia about anne's lot. like I said, this feels like an obvious conclusion about anne's slot, and so avoiding saying anything about anne's slot is weird.)

(but I need to re-read all of schia's responses from while I was asleep/offline! only fair)

[robyn]

py, assuming you have time you should spend it casing wigly
i’m gonna do that after school but it’ll he 1h until eod

[Porscha]

Skimmed Porscha's ISO.

Towny enough.

Idk, low energy Porscha is hard to read when compared to big post Porscha that I'm used to. I almost misyeeted low energy Porscha in NAA's game that just ended so I'd rather not make the same mistake twice.

lmao I forgot about that. literal switch of vote same minute as day ended whew

[robyn]

I don't think that the Jack thing is a tell in how it's formatted at all but -

I'm bored

2.5 hours til EoD and I RaNdOmLy put mac into the lead with 3 votes.

What are the top 3 players you would be willing to vote for today, sabi?

Mac, Rondo, lucy and maybe cape.

Cape has felt towny lately ish so I'm swinging back and forth

I could genuinely see Sabi feeling compelled to put a partner here (in the 3rd position especially seems bad), which is a point against Lucy to me.

Obscurity, if i am town what does that tell you about the rest of sabi’s reads?

@obscurity answer is they’re hard scum siding and gave wigly a TR

[robyn]

@Jackofhearts2005 respectfully do you have terrible read accuracy and why did you TR Wigly/anne/obscurity?

[Jackofhearts2005]

self pres or scum read? @Jackofhearts2005

Bit of both.

[robyn]

self pres or scum read? @Jackofhearts2005

Bit of both.

i think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before

[robyn]

[VOTE: Wigly] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

@Jackofhearts2005 respectfully do you have terrible read accuracy and why did you TR Wigly/anne/obscurity?

Really depends on the game. Sometimes, I pick outmost of the wolfteam on day 1. Sometimes, I get pocketed hard.

Obscurity is just obviously town. Come on. He's trying to solve. He's trying not to tunnel. His reads make sense. Strongest townread, easily.

I think Anne looked good D1. Her interactions with Sabi don't look particularly teamed. She's kinda fallen off as the game went on and like...she's still alive but that's just tinfoil.

Wilgy tends to coast more as a wolf. He's interrogating people, here. I don't agree with some of his reads but I believe they're real reads.

Where you going with this?

[robyn]

@Jackofhearts2005 respectfully do you have terrible read accuracy and why did you TR Wigly/anne/obscurity?

Really depends on the game. Sometimes, I pick outmost of the wolfteam on day 1. Sometimes, I get pocketed hard.

Obscurity is just obviously town. Come on. He's trying to solve. He's trying not to tunnel. His reads make sense. Strongest townread, easily.

I think Anne looked good D1. Her interactions with Sabi don't look particularly teamed. She's kinda fallen off as the game went on and like...she's still alive but that's just tinfoil.

Wilgy tends to coast more as a wolf. He's interrogating people, here. I don't agree with some of his reads but I believe they're real reads.

Where you going with this?

i independently SR all those 3, then you’re here and i read your reads list where those 3 are all your top town. would lend me more credibility if you’ve had really terrible reads lists before

[Jackofhearts2005]

self pres or scum read? @Jackofhearts2005

Bit of both.

i think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before

I guess that answers that.

How do you feel about Creature?

[robyn]

self pres or scum read? @Jackofhearts2005

Bit of both.

i think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before

I guess that answers that.

How do you feel about Creature?

i think he’s town because he’s independently having my same thoughts when most people aren’t and the fact it’s an unpopular view

[Jackofhearts2005]

@Jackofhearts2005 respectfully do you have terrible read accuracy and why did you TR Wigly/anne/obscurity?

Really depends on the game. Sometimes, I pick outmost of the wolfteam on day 1. Sometimes, I get pocketed hard.

Obscurity is just obviously town. Come on. He's trying to solve. He's trying not to tunnel. His reads make sense. Strongest townread, easily.

I think Anne looked good D1. Her interactions with Sabi don't look particularly teamed. She's kinda fallen off as the game went on and like...she's still alive but that's just tinfoil.

Wilgy tends to coast more as a wolf. He's interrogating people, here. I don't agree with some of his reads but I believe they're real reads.

Where you going with this?

i independently SR all those 3, then you’re here and i read your reads list where those 3 are all your top town. would lend me more credibility if you’ve had really terrible reads lists before

My reads in SF3 were kinda bad. My reads in Misplay mafia were kinda bad. But that's like 2 of my last 5ish towngames and I think I did good or at least decent in the rest.

[Jackofhearts2005]

self pres or scum read? @Jackofhearts2005

Bit of both.

i think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before

I guess that answers that.

How do you feel about Creature?

i think he’s town because he’s independently having my same thoughts when most people aren’t and the fact it’s an unpopular view

What thoughts? He keeps just saying me and Anne are wolves without really explaining why.

[robyn]

self pres or scum read? @Jackofhearts2005

Bit of both.

i think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before

I guess that answers that.

How do you feel about Creature?

i think he’s town because he’s independently having my same thoughts when most people aren’t and the fact it’s an unpopular view

What thoughts? He keeps just saying me and Anne are wolves without really explaining why.

creature is sheeping mac’s iso on you from my pov, but i reckon he’s right on anne and he’s scum leaning on obscurity i think which is really townie imo

[robyn]

gtg to school though

[Jackofhearts2005]

self pres or scum read? @Jackofhearts2005

Bit of both.

i think you’re town but i think you’re scum siding with reads that are pretty much all incorrect, i’m curious if you’ve ever had read lists that were opposite of reality before

I guess that answers that.

How do you feel about Creature?

i think he’s town because he’s independently having my same thoughts when most people aren’t and the fact it’s an unpopular view

What thoughts? He keeps just saying me and Anne are wolves without really explaining why.

creature is sheeping mac’s iso on you from my pov, but i reckon he’s right on anne and he’s scum leaning on obscurity i think which is really townie imo

Mac scumreads me 100% of the time on D1 regardless of his alignment or mine. And I either push him back or I ignore him based on my read on him. You can go back and check like a dozen games and it's the same every time. And Mac said his scumread on Anne was to protect her from getting nightkilled N1.

You can understand how I don't view "sheep dead townie, Mac" as a very good or townie reason to push to yeet me or Anne.

[DrWilgy]

wigly/anne/obscurity
is a team i see

Idk how a Wilgy/Obscurity team makes sense.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Fuck it.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

[DrWilgy]

@Creature why are you going jack again, i’m much more confident in wigly/anne flips

I don't understand where your SR on me comes from.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Wilgy, who else do you think is scum besides Falcon? Because I don't think Falcon is the way to go, today. Wolf Falcon would have just voted me by now.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm juggling around thoughts like am I just pocketed and incorrect? Is Lucy somehow pocketed an incorrect in spite of having basically having the exact reverse of my reads? Am I just an idiot for finding that exchange townie on Lucy's end?

[Porscha]

wigly/anne/obscurity
is a team i see

I would be surprised to see obscurity there I think. more than wilgy or anne

[Jackofhearts2005]

Porscha's iso is similar to Schia's in vibe. Like it's not impossible for this to be a wolf (you could say Porscha isn't outside of her wolfrange, Anne,) but I don't think it is.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Speak of the devil

[Porscha]

Actually I thought there was a comment Anne made early game when I ISO'd last night that looked good and a couple unpaired things with Sabi that were pretty strong but I'm annoyed she's supposed to be an S tier player and doing Jack shit

've been interpreting this behavior as her not wanting to be the NK so that she can carry us on her back and win the lategame o7 and I for one am willing to let it happen o7

anne was NK fodder the second she signed up for game and x2 after burying sabi imo

[Porscha]

Speak of the devil

my ears were burning

(I'm just catching up to last page atm)

[pyxxy]

Actually I thought there was a comment Anne made early game when I ISO'd last night that looked good and a couple unpaired things with Sabi that were pretty strong but I'm annoyed she's supposed to be an S tier player and doing Jack shit

've been interpreting this behavior as her not wanting to be the NK so that she can carry us on her back and win the lategame o7 and I for one am willing to let it happen o7

anne was NK fodder the second she signed up for game and x2 after burying sabi imo

heoretically speaking what do we gain from flipping scum!anne besides one less scum? like it is worth trying to deal with today, or soon, or just better knowing that if anne makes kilo or something that she's dead to rights? would it reveal more things about D1 interactions that off the top of your head we would immediately benefit from?

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy, who else do you think is scum besides Falcon? Because I don't think Falcon is the way to go, today. Wolf Falcon would have just voted me by now.

1 wolf in Creature/Obscurity/Porscha maybe Anne/Neon if I'm starting to reassess the clears I gave them.

Schiavetto's slot can be a wolf.

Nook can be a wolf.

This gamestate doesn't point to you being wolf. Lucy/Seanzie I would need to be really hard pressed into revoking the Sabi clear. I don't see pyxxy's posts having a scum angle too. Hard to detour me from that one at this point.

[DrWilgy]

And that is if not Falcon. If Falcon the game gets much easier.

Engagement reading Falcon hasn't been wrong so far this year.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Wilgy, who else do you think is scum besides Falcon? Because I don't think Falcon is the way to go, today. Wolf Falcon would have just voted me by now.

1 wolf in Creature/Obscurity/Porscha maybe Anne/Neon if I'm starting to reassess the clears I gave them.

Schiavetto's slot can be a wolf.

Nook can be a wolf.

This gamestate doesn't point to you being wolf. Lucy/Seanzie I would need to be really hard pressed into revoking the Sabi clear. I don't see pyxxy's posts having a scum angle too. Hard to detour me from that one at this point.

I guess Creature and Neon were the players I was planning on reading anyway.

[Jackofhearts2005]

And that is if not Falcon. If Falcon the game gets much easier.

Engagement reading Falcon hasn't been wrong so far this year.

Let's say I'm wrong and Falcon is a wolf. Who is Falcon's partner in that much easier world?

[Porscha]

Actually I thought there was a comment Anne made early game when I ISO'd last night that looked good and a couple unpaired things with Sabi that were pretty strong but I'm annoyed she's supposed to be an S tier player and doing Jack shit

've been interpreting this behavior as her not wanting to be the NK so that she can carry us on her back and win the lategame o7 and I for one am willing to let it happen o7

anne was NK fodder the second she signed up for game and x2 after burying sabi imo

heoretically speaking what do we gain from flipping scum!anne besides one less scum? like it is worth trying to deal with today, or soon, or just better knowing that if anne makes kilo or something that she's dead to rights? would it reveal more things about D1 interactions that off the top of your head we would immediately benefit from?

I remember so little from earlier in the game that I don't have a good answer to that. If you mean flipping anne wouldn't provide info, i'm not so sure about that? didn't anne have pretty good amount of posting day 1? may or may not find spew with the flip. I don't really think that she's #1 priority today regardless

[obscurity]

Falcon could be a wolf with anyone, technically.

I'm switching back to NANOOK but @lucy ig you being town would mean Sabi probably just pushed villagers

[pyxxy]

Actually I thought there was a comment Anne made early game when I ISO'd last night that looked good and a couple unpaired things with Sabi that were pretty strong but I'm annoyed she's supposed to be an S tier player and doing Jack shit

've been interpreting this behavior as her not wanting to be the NK so that she can carry us on her back and win the lategame o7 and I for one am willing to let it happen o7

anne was NK fodder the second she signed up for game and x2 after burying sabi imo

heoretically speaking what do we gain from flipping scum!anne besides one less scum? like it is worth trying to deal with today, or soon, or just better knowing that if anne makes kilo or something that she's dead to rights? would it reveal more things about D1 interactions that off the top of your head we would immediately benefit from?

I remember so little from earlier in the game that I don't have a good answer to that. If you mean flipping anne wouldn't provide info, i'm not so sure about that? didn't anne have pretty good amount of posting day 1? may or may not find spew with the flip. I don't really think that she's #1 priority today regardless

ep same not #1 prio just wanted to sync minds with you

[Porscha]

And that is if not Falcon. If Falcon the game gets much easier.

Engagement reading Falcon hasn't been wrong so far this year.

yeah but who does falcon spew even if he flips wolf

[obscurity]

Pyxxy why does your first letters keep cutting off?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Falcon's iso isn't that great, actually. I still believe wolf Falcon would just be voting for me but I think my heart wants Falcon to be town more than my head thinks he is. Wilgy's not wrong. Just....bleh. I wanna give that slot another day. It's not impossible I'm giving the entire wolfteam another day.