The Syndicate

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:50 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:22 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:46 pm I feel for Sloonie, personally still think LC looks worse then he does. However, I do think we'll get alot of info off of a sloonie lynch.

For DDL earlier question, I have a slight town read of dunya, but I see where you're coming from. She's been more of a background player and if push comes to shove and we run out of scummy people to lynch she'd be the first of my town circle to go, since she's most likely mafia out of it.
Why do I look worse?
I think i've laid everything out pretty well, the only thing that pushes sloonie closer is his emotional appeal, but civs do that all the time.

Naw man, I've not seen you lay anything out that's actually scummy?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:28 pm I specifically asked not to be lynched. This is dumb. I can’t even play today. Meh.

Can you play tomorrow? (IRL tomorrow, not in-game tomorrow)

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:36 pm Bussing like that is damnright antitown in my case.

But... don't you WANT to be antitown if you're bussing?

wow lol

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:08 pm Dragon D. Luffy

You asked why Sloonei was a wolf.

Why didn’t Rej self preserve if Sloonei and Colin were both town. Iirc, he voted me and Boo, which reeked is antispew.

Why did he not vote colin then, in this line of reasoning?

sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:28 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:26 am
sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:11 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I'll do an NKA of boo later, but nothing has changed from yesterday besides the fact that LC was saved at the very last second and a civ was lynched.
This is the only reason I've seen to suspect LC that makes sense, and even this is weak on its own.
This solidified it for me. He's been off all game, people who suspect him keep dying, and he was obviously plotting my death hence his "When you die people will think I'm mafia" comment.

On top of that his Rej stuff was a bit off and I don't like his WIFOM arguments.

This is a blanket statement that means nothing on it's own. I have no examples, nothing to follow it with.
Ooh, nightkill analysis. I would get on board with that sort of thing if there were A. Examples and B. Still plenty of people left that suspect LC for some reason or another. It's not like the mafia team is trying to eradicate the LC suspicion, that doesn't make sense. The kills thus far make more sense as eradicating outspoken players and covering their tracks when under suspicion. You know, the normal mafia stuff. Feel free to follow up on this one, though.
You aren't dead. 'Obviously plotting your death' could apply to anyone who predicts what will happen when another person dies. If you think this is TMI, that's one thing, but this is clearly another, and is nothing.

I know I've been down this DEFEND LC rabbit hole in several games, but I'm just not seeing anything here. No scumslip, no adverse reasoning or sketchy behavior. I don't know why LC is being suspected by so many people.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:11 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I'll do an NKA of boo later, but nothing has changed from yesterday besides the fact that LC was saved at the very last second and a civ was lynched.

This is the only reason I've seen to suspect LC that makes sense, and even this is weak on its own.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:24 pm Long Con / speedchuck both bad. Does that relationship work?

I think I'm the same alignment as LC, so sure. The relationship works. But it's a loving relationship, not an insidious one.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:08 am Someone spared sloon,

Who

Would rather lynch sloon, jack, or colin than lc. Have no idea why we would lc lynch.

*read lc iso*

I find no fault in him

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:34 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:32 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:31 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:25 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:23 pm [VOTE: Colin] aubergine
Why?
Because that's what I wanted to do and was doing before I got distracted by a ridiculous vote analysis from Jack.
I’d be on board, but I find myself once again voting to not die. LC’s a fine lynch too though.
I'm not convinced.
The wanting-to-be-suspicious thing is a viable thing that I can see town LC going for and that’s my biggest hang up on this vote. But my suspicion towards him exists independent of that.

Have you looked closely at his interactions with rej? They’re light and not very great, imo.

No, I haven't. I've been gone for two days. Guess I can hit his ISO.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:31 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:25 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:23 pm [VOTE: Colin] aubergine
Why?
Because that's what I wanted to do and was doing before I got distracted by a ridiculous vote analysis from Jack.
I’d be on board, but I find myself once again voting to not die. LC’s a fine lynch too though.

I'm not convinced.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:25 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:23 pm [VOTE: Colin] aubergine
Why?

Because that's what I wanted to do and was doing before I got distracted by a ridiculous vote analysis from Jack.

[VOTE: Colin] aubergine

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:38 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:36 pm Hello, is anything important happening or can I check out again?
We're trying to figure out who to lynch and there are 1.5 hours left to pick.

Pretty important.
It's only important if we're wavering off Sloonei, and he seems to be in the lead still, so. Looks like we're good there to me

What if I told you that we ARE wavering off sloonei?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:36 pm Hello, is anything important happening or can I check out again?

We're trying to figure out who to lynch and there are 1.5 hours left to pick.

Pretty important.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:31 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:29 pm Idunno being purposefully scummy to shake up the game seems like something town con would do
I wasn't really trying to "shake up the game".

Shake up people's reads on you, make it less consistent.

If I'm just completely wrong, why do it then?

He's complained about being very townread before because it was likely to get him nightkilled.

I noted the 'lurker vote' thing he did as very out-of-place with the sentiment in the thread.

He could have looked better on the Rej lynch, technically, but I don't know about that part.

Why should I lynch Long Con eh?

Idunno being purposefully scummy to shake up the game seems like something town con would do

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:25 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:20 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
Let’s not

I'm around still. Nothing has sold me on LC yet

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:10 pm Has anyone made a more convincing case on LC than LC made on himself? Cause I have no idea what to do with that much wine.

Truth.

BUT

TSP did a similar thing, where he was extremely self-analytical and such, and he ended up town.
LC is doing a little different dance, with it 'all part of the plan bro', but IDK what to think about that.

Yeah, no vote colin then. Vote Sloonei or LC.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:02 pm At the buzzer, votes are

Colin 5 - Jack, Boo, Sloonei, Tony, Nanook
Rej 5 - DDL, Jack, Sig, Dunya, Speed
Sloonei 5 - LC, Creature, Nanook, Sig, Nutella
Tony 6 - Rej, Dunya, Sloonei, Speed, Dunya, DDL

And Colin votes Rej. He chose to take Rej from 33% chance to lynch to 100% chance to lynch and himself and Sloonei from 33% to 0%.

If Colin is a wolf, the only reason he votes Rej is because Sloonei is also a wolf. Otherwise, he’d lynch good townie Sloonei over himself and good role partner Rej. A bus on Rej earns him no cred.

So under the idea that Rej is probably teamed with Sloonei and/or Colin and under the idea that Colin can only be a wolf if Colin and Sloonei are both wolves, Sloonei should go first.

If Sloonei flips wolf, we get a wolf and we reevaluate Colin with the knowledge that everything Sloonei said cane from a wolf. If Sloonei flips town, we know all his reads were real and we confirm mislynch bait Colin.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Ooh, spicy.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:54 pm I just became really tired all of a sudden. I have thoughts on LC’s big post a moment ago. Typing them requires energy. Help

u ken do it

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:10 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:48 pm =,= I'm being ignored. someone talk to me.
Hi Zé Carioca

*tips hat*

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:55 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:54 pm weeee tornado warnings going off
stay safe, lunachuck & co.

thanks, we'll be good

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:56 pm Guys I don't wanna lynch anyone. Help.

Lynch Colin. He's basically no one and that's worrying

weeee tornado warnings going off

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:51 pm I'd vote speedchuck to save Con

I wouldn't, but otherwise agree.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:41 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:36 pm Quit voting for me. I didn't vote for Rej, too bad. It happens. I'm civ. Too many civ reads earlier so I tried to look worse, and now no one is even referencing posts where i did that intentionally.
Was not voting for rej part of your plan to "look worse"?
Nope

TBF it's pretty easy for scum to get on the right wagon to look good. Whether LC looks good or not might depend on whether the votes at EOD were volatile or not.*

*I have not read dayend or the arguments against LC

I'll just vote colin for now and see about LC when the baby quits making it imposiblw

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:25 pm are you coming off sloonei, speedchuck? i thought you said you were.

Baby interrupted me. Trying to get her to sleep.

I am. I will when I figure out where I want to go.

Need to read the LC case, then choose that or Colin I think

I was reading mafia and burned my dinner you trash

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:07 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:06 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:03 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:57 pm but sloonei, what you're missing from that is the shit i gave him for the question before rej answered. i feel like that diminishes the strong response to rej a bit, but i see what you mean...
A: what you're missing from that
B: i see what you mean

(A) implies that Dunya has seen the post (as she has) and that it wasn't enough for her because of reason A.
(B) implies that Dunya is... agreeing? with sloonei?

Do you have a side on this, or are you just gonna waffle around and throw shade?
i mean reading the multiquote like that makes me feel like it is a genuine conversation.
I do not follow. What looks genuine? What is your take on speedchuck/rej here?
i feel like speedchuck's attack was more genuine than i remember feeling about it at the time of his question. i just hated how he asked him is that sarcasm? then said "because it feels like sarcasm to me"

if rej had responded "yes that was sarcasm"

then the conversation would have been...over?

Admittedly, it was not a trap for Rej. I was only trying to figure out if he was townreading or scumreading, because the post was in a grey area.
Then he replied, and things got worse.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:08 pm You either love playing with me or hate playing with me.

<3

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:52 pm I have a decent track record of reading Speed with a skew towards scumreading him when he’s town sometimes and rarely townreading him when he’s scum.

Ever since Pirate Mafia, yeah?

Very similar language to what Rej said, TBH.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:57 pm but sloonei, what you're missing from that is the shit i gave him for the question before rej answered. i feel like that diminishes the strong response to rej a bit, but i see what you mean...

A: what you're missing from that
B: i see what you mean

(A) implies that Dunya has seen the post (as she has) and that it wasn't enough for her because of reason A.
(B) implies that Dunya is... agreeing? with sloonei?

Do you have a side on this, or are you just gonna waffle around and throw shade?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:51 pm @speedchuck Why shouldn't we lynch you?

What townie things have you done and whom would you like to lynch?

I think the few things I've done when rooting around in the thread have been helpful.
I'll get back to you on the second question once I've got a better idea what's going on.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:50 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:48 pm =,= I'm being ignored. someone talk to me.
Hi speed I think you look very good in your relationship wit rej.
If we assume that I am town, who would you be voting for?

That's actually a tough question.
Hm.

Probably Colin, unless something's changed in the 36 hours I haven't been in game. Colin is usually a presence, and he's like a void in my head right now.

I might jump there anyway. I don't like that there are no big voices on the Sloon train. Makes it feel weird.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:49 pm Where are you getting this general consensus from? I am specifically accusing LC of being mafia based on his interactions with Rej. My voice is consensus.

I didn't consent to this.

If sloon is scum, his teammates are in Dunya, Colin, Jack, and Sig. That's what the readlist quoted above tells me.

=,= I'm being ignored. someone talk to me.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:44 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:42 pm i didnt like how creature didn't know JJJ was replaced.
How does that indicate alignment tho?

If anything, it could be the opposite, but IDK. Long Con has pulled off an ignorance townslip before

Sup? I haven't been spending much time on my PC lately.

[VOTE: Sloonbeard[VOTE: ] aubergine] aubergine

Oh yeah, I remember that now.

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