The Syndicate

hey, I'm voting

also the jack vote on chelsea freaked me out

but if it is brad I really don't think it's chelsea and if we're not going to be moving in that direction then I'm gonna feel a little silly about the whole thing

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:10 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:11 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:08 pm Well ok maybe you’re not now because fall of cliff etc but he was really towny at the beginning of this game and that’s at least enough so that that question strikes me as unnecessary
How is it unnecessary to ask someone to verify their townread of a slot that is undeniably not towny?

He was really towny how?

Brad's only memorable activity thus far is to go on tilt because Seanzie was pushing him and hard cling to one of the wolfiest slots in the game? What's so towny about that?
Mac it feels like you know why it’s towny and you’re asking this to make a rhetorical complaint but unless things have changed in the last 2 years I would still be strongly inclined to clear him just on that
So meta is your answer?

Counterpoint it's also Brad's wolf meta to play strong as hell day 1 and then fall off.

Here https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ions-of-Te ad here and here https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37129

yeah i'll grant it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:12 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:05 pm Also I can maybe agree I am not literally spamposting the thread because I am very short-timed here

I've had plenty of town games in this site where I lowposted so activity shouldn't be AI for me at all

Still saying this is my wolf meta and that I have no pulse here feels like a huge lie

You are like not even making an effort to analyse in good faith if you are making comments like this. Also wolfy hyperbole.

Also I can see TSP is prepping to pivot onto sussing me. He's begun to unravel his perspective on me starkly.

If I get chopped here y'all need serious Jesus because I blatantly have no partners here.

I'm not prepping to pivot onto sussing you smh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:11 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:08 pm Well ok maybe you’re not now because fall of cliff etc but he was really towny at the beginning of this game and that’s at least enough so that that question strikes me as unnecessary
How is it unnecessary to ask someone to verify their townread of a slot that is undeniably not towny?

He was really towny how?

Brad's only memorable activity thus far is to go on tilt because Seanzie was pushing him and hard cling to one of the wolfiest slots in the game? What's so towny about that?

Mac it feels like you know why it’s towny and you’re asking this to make a rhetorical complaint but unless things have changed in the last 2 years I would still be strongly inclined to clear him just on that

Well ok maybe you’re not now because fall of cliff etc but he was really towny at the beginning of this game and that’s at least enough so that that question strikes me as unnecessary

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:06 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:00 pm Who would be a wolf with Chelsea? Because I am not seeing Lime Cole and Manny being wolves unless I am missing something about them
How are you townreading Brad here?

You’re townreading Brad here

Wait vote

I gotta do sports bets here and then take a nap and then go to a movie theatre so I will not really be around but I will place a bet at some point

the game of mafia ladies and gentlemen

I mean I'm always concerned about mac beczuse mac has said a lot of things in the past 3.5 years to indicate that he is supremely confident in his ability to snow particularly me and my pride doesn't like getting snowed

Manny wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:35 pm
LanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:34 pm Manny, I think I will need you to decide at some point and I will follow your vote unless it completely contradicts mine. I don't know if I will be able to make a coherent enough thought in a few hours, I already feel like becoming dumber by the second.
notlikethis i dont want RESPONSABILITY it makes me wanna play it safe and just kill the perma-null slot that is Epi
instead of doing productive stuff like resolving mac/chelsea.

It also doesnt help that Brad and Creature are doing -1 and thats prolly rand!w for both but i doubt both of them are wolves and i wouldnt be shocked if for some god forsaken reason both were town.
Also Mac stopped giving a fuck about solving and doing stuff this day the second his wagon disappeared which makes me want him dead too zzzz

I kinda wanna kill Chelsea and if she flips town just yeet Mac/TSP/Jack in that order but that doesnt work if this is mylo.

seems bad

but yeah concerned about mac for the reasons presented here

and no let no one state that the fact that TSP is enjoying playing mafia mean he's a wolf

even if it's usually a good read

Just realized Scotty knocked me out of the top 15 all time poasters at some point in the last year. I guess I need to play more mafia. Sorry Juliets but TSP needs cred

LanMisa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:09 pm I can't vote TSP really. He's been siding with me too much and with my placement I can't afford to nuke an ally.
If TSP is a wolf (and I still think that he could be) then you voting him out would massively improve your standing and more or less clear you though? I don't quite understand that take.

yeah but tsp’s not a wolf

Now are we in a game state where we can play chicken with the wolves and make them 3P hunt? IDK

I think Creature’s a bad vote today. I’m going to run with the assumption that he’s Mr House until I come up with a good reason to the contrary. Wolf team probably Chelsea / Jack. Very low confidence. Maybe Chelsea / Epi but I don’t think Falcon shuts up yesterday with that team. Manny possible. That’s where I’m at right now

i sure as hell don't intend to do so

And I know I'm harping on this but it's not really like there's any reason to do otherwise given that there's not a lot else to really talk about cause we've basically just reset the game going into today which maybe actually we don't need to because we have a falcon ISO to read and as far as I can tell no one has done that yet

It just really doesn't make sense to me. Mac didn't push for the first two day chops. I sure as hell didn't. How are we the wolf-siders? Not saying that clears Mac or anything but if Mac is a wolf he's the counter-voice to the previously-wolf-siding faction. Doesn't make sense to say Mac is wolfsiding unless you think his partner is like Epi I guess but I think Mac/Epi cleared themselves from being a team but actually man I do have enough respect for their wolf games to have pulled that shit but

Also like not like we’re to blame for the day 3 chop but I genuinely don’t understand the position at all, Mac isn’t even pushing your townreads (except of course implicitly you)

So like “I’m voting Mac because he’s a wolf” which actually that’s all the justification you need but I’m not going to act like I think it’s right

Like “Mac/TSP are heavily wolf siding” is a sorta weird statement which is tautologically true if we’re wolves and I think cannot possibly be true if we aren’t (unless the wolves are like Brad and Lan but in that case hands up idk)

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:45 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:29 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:23 pm Why did we drop the Mac wagon?
Good question, answered in thread by about as much as “why do we have a Mac wagon”
Pretty sure I already answered why I am voting Mac

Eh 1) non-contradictory and 2) did you though

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:23 pm Why did we drop the Mac wagon?

Good question, answered in thread by about as much as “why do we have a Mac wagon”

Glad to see that the game slows down dramatically once it goes from clear wagons to clusterfuck

Chelsea wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:23 pm
Chelsea wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:21 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:18 pm
Chelsea wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:15 pm I think I've only written cases as mafia now that I think about it because they're so easy that people just say "wow that can't come from a wolf"

Regardless, I have no intent of doing such a thing it isn't my style. You're free to keep your vote if that is somehow the crux of your thinking. (it isn't)
I just want you to do something so I can actually read you.

Like it's a naked vote on Mac, maybe Creature, maybe Tony, maybe Epi, well actually probably Jack but I'm not gonna say why cause cases are scummy.

I'm not voting for you cause I think you're mafia. I'm voting for you to make you do something (and also because the 5 vote Mac wagon with no cw was counterproductive).

It doesn't have to be a case. It doesn't have to be on me. I just can't tell what you're even doing.
Then ask me things, if you're confused I am here to work with you and answer questions so that confusion is gone. I feel like I've stated why I have been and had voted people but if that isn't enough you're allowed to ya know, get more details. Voting me isn't gonna make me do more because vote pressure is so fake.
Then give me details.

Why me? Why Tony? Why or why not Creature? (Gonna leave out Epi cause I know the answer to that.)

For you: I think you've been objectively towny, your posting is good and you're very agreeable (charisma is a bigger factor in mafia than people think.) However, I think you fit in a lot of wolf worldviews, the Scotty NK is the NK I expect you as a wolf to make the most. If you are just voting me for pressure instead of. . .doing anything else really I don't understand why. Maybe I am making too many assumptions on people I find unlikely to be partners (Such as TSP/Creature) but you always seem to fit in that mafia slot, especially as a third. I think the best thing about you is your tone shifts to something really exciting in these random bursts that I find hard to fake as a wolf. Do I see you being voted today? No, but I am concerned.

Tony: hasn't done anything quite frankly. He comes in posts one line sentences, calls their vote serious or something along that, and then leaves. Considering someone Day 1 called this guy really easy to Meta cause of how hard they try? Not seeing it. Even if we ignore the meta thing I know for me all he's been doing is mainly voting me. I see no effort of real solving or any concern whatsoever. There's no nuance or any sense of critical thinking. The only reason I am not powershoving that vote down is if Creature is a wolf I don't think Tony is.

Creature: Ignoring that I don't think they're a wolf with Tony, either Creature is just snowing me and my reads are really bad, or my reads are good and Creature is in the same boat as me. Ironic as it is, that makes me want to flip them to see if I'm right. But, I disagree that Creature's Day 1 is bad, I think he's overall defeatist energy is what I expect from a !town Creature worldview. What would Creature mafia be doing? Nothing? I don't see how he's advancing the game state in a bad way. Am I missing something? Please tell me.

Where’s doomer Creature now?

Epi pls

Vote: JackofHarts

Ok really we should be voting Jack but Jack is cooperating and it feels good

Chelsea wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:43 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:34 pm Mac seems and has seemed too genuinely frustrated and in this spat Chelsea’s disrespect has felt pretty sharp
I don't take kindly to you calling me a policy vote and saying I've "disrespected" anyone when I haven't done anything of the sort.

Disagree

Manny wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:40 pm mfw im only townreading 3 people, i hate it here.
are we in mylo? lazy to do math

Depends on the sitch but it would certainly be good to kill a wolf

Mac seems and has seemed too genuinely frustrated and in this spat Chelsea’s disrespect has felt pretty sharp

But like also that’s Mac’s reads

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:01 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:55 pm LanMisa, Lime Coke and Manny are my townreads
I mean, like, if Manny is a wolf that means they tracked/watched/whatever falcon45ca to Seanzie and decided to out it in thread, then kill Seanzie and incriminate falcon45ca the next day?

Also I believe LanMisa and Lime Coke are pretty out of their wolf ranges. Does anyone disagree with this?

Don’t know LAN’s range

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:54 pm Could it be MacDougall + TonystarkPrime?

I think both have been pretty hard wolfsiding

No you don’t and don’t pretend that you do

Just the day 2 wagons with an MIA Lan

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:38 pm You know what doesn’t ever help me solve Mac? Mac quoting his own iso and talking about his own meta. It’s either true cause Mac’s town or fakeable because Mac is pointing it out.

This isn’t unique to Mac, I’m just annoyed at how much of today has been Mac talking about Mac.

agree vaguely

Vote: Chelsea

This is a policy vote

Also really obnoxious that like none of the people voting Mac seem to have any interest in participating in the game besides Dunn

People are missing the reasonable possibility that LC died as a result of poison or the result of game mechanics unknown to the common man, and that’s maybe relevant. But both kills are so out there that it’s hard to really manipulate that.

I don’t think I have the confidence to try to take control of this game state right now based on how today is going. A mac chop seems crazy to me. I’ll be fiery tomorrow if it comes down to it. NKA is really throwing me off. The LC / Scotty kill is just bizarre.

Vote: Creature

Kick the can down the road, vote for Creature!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:54 am @TonyStarkPrime if you are town and you are townreading me you have unique information that shows Chelsea is a pure c/w to Nook with 3 votes.

Your perspective should be Chelsea is mafia. At min it should be Mac/Chelsea different.

That was my perspective and I was confused about why you dropped it to start the day and it still kinda is my perspective but I’m getting cold feet

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:45 am Chelsea 0
No votes
Voters: None

Creature 0
No votes
Voters: None

DarlingMonroe 0
No votes
Voters: None

Dunnstral 0
No votes
Voters: None

Epignosis 1
5%
Voters: Manny

falcon45ca 0
No votes
Voters: None

Jackofhearts2005 0
No votes
Voters: None

LanMisa 0
No votes
Voters: None

Lime Coke 0
No votes
Voters: None

Long Con 0
No votes
Voters: None

MacDougall 1
5%
Voters: Creature

Manny 1
5%
Voters: Chelsea

Michelle 0
No votes
Voters: None

Princess Abigail 0
No votes
Voters: None

Scotty 2
10%
Voters: Long Con, Jackofhearts2005

Seanzie 3
14%
Voters: falcon45ca, Epignosis, MacDougall

sig 7
33%
Voters: Dunnstral, Michelle, Seanzie, Scotty, Lime Coke, ☆Princess Abigail☆, LanMisa

TonyStarkPrime 0
No votes
Voters: None

No elimination / Sleep 0
No votes
Voters: None

No vote / Unvote 1
5%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime

D1 eod.

There have been sig voters dying every night. None have flipped mafia thus far. Why are the mafia continuously killing sig voters? Only Lan, Brad and Dunnstral remain alive from the 7. Probably 1 mafia here at most. It's probably pure tbh.

Falcon was off wagon on Seanzie with Epi and I. I am town. Epi is probably not stacking with Falcon here because it's just not textbook wolf play.

LC now outed 3p and Jack voting Scotty who is now confirmed town. This is why I am saying Jack is probably outed by d1 vote logic. If Jack is not mafia, why are mafia not voting Scotty? This is basic wagonomics.

Creature off wagon on me. Chelsea off wagon on Manny. Manny off wagon on Epi
TSP not voting at all.

Mafia under zero threat so they can all split and throw votes on vanities and call it a day.

They do that then go to night and prioritise killing two townie sig voters. Then another n2. Then another n3. They don't likely do this if one is on sig because it narrows them down into a smaller solvable group.

Jack is very likely mafia. Manny/Chelsea is probably 1 between them. Creature is probably the third.

This is the basis of my analysis I did over night

Flipside I think mafia have at least one extra heavy KP role and I don’t think there are 3 more

I'd like to update the thread and say I have a new read for mr house who I won't be sharing with the thread (it's dunn)

uh, important to note, manny is currently alive. Which really should mean a lot.

my read on manny is that mac has to blame someone for bad things happening and bad things aren't the fault of you or creature so by process of elimination it's manny which actually isn't a good read but I need mac to be town for me to be happy

eh he just likes gimmick posting

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