The Syndicate

I’ve clarified some things with the host and I still think that it’s worth targeting me tonight [mention]Kylemii[/mention] if you truly do have to role power you say. But I can’t fault you if you choose someone else either.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:30 pm how many people here appreciate the irony of juliets getting a bttf role xD

::raises hand::

Yes [votejuliets[/vote]

No Colin you can't win the election tonight, you are caught in PoE.

I'd like to submit Juliets for the Election.

She is universally trusted and unlikely to die since she has no night power to speak of any longer. Which reminds me, if we still have a doctor out there consider me please. II am nearing the end of my usefulness but I have one more trick up my sleeve.

Hmm...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:50 pm I was returned to the thread by vote. The dead voted and the vote was for me because of Spacedaisy's call.

Luna voted for herself
Sig, nutella, Quin and myself voted for me
TH didn't vote

this makes me kind of happy.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:49 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:24 pm @kylemii If you were telling the truth about your power please target me tonight. It will be very helpful.

this better not be a trick

I'm not, though I should ask, Mac can you use items? I mean being a stump and all doesn't mean you can;'t use an item gifted to you, correct?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:39 pm "Spacedaisy! You called me back here from my restful chamber! Speak your piece or rest in peace."

I've already spoken my peace, Kyle should target me tonight.

Gr

My last post was supposed to be [mention]Kylemii[/mention]

@kylemii If you were telling the truth about your power please target me tonight. It will be very helpful.

I don't know if it is correct, but I don't think Epi is acting too oddly. I can understand how he got there.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:55 pm So I just resumed my reading and decided to read lap since she was short. There was hardly anything there. She did indicate some suspicion for Luna but we don't know if Luna was bad and even if she was bad lap could have been bussing, though it doesn't seem like something she would do. She indicated she's on vacation now, unlikely to catch up, and she hasn't been back. What do those of you who have voted for her (I think that's Daisy and Epi) see that causes you to vote her over anyone else?

Kylemii: I didn't get an item last night

I didn’t catch that she was on vacation. But she caught in the middle of my PoE. I don’t know that he activity would change that for me. Especially given Soeedchucks answer about randomizing targets for missing power submissions.

Lol I followed what you meant.

Ok, well if we do somehow manage to unvanish Mac During this Day phase or the following Night Phase, it would be worthwhile to target me next time you use your power. Otherwise don’t waste it on me.

All that said it’s just a fingers crossed and hope someone out there has that ability to bring someone back.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:07 pm I still feel like the mention tag is bad.

Regarding sprityo, I spent about ten minutes writing an argument against him, only to realize I read something he said wrong, and so I got rid of everything. I was pissed too, because I thought for once I was on to something hot.

So you don’t feel like he is bad any longer or you just don’t have the same reason you thought you had before?

Kyle does your power simply replicate the same power acts target of whoever you target?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:59 pm i mean i see it a lot and it bugs me each time and makes me feel like maybe i'm just bad at the game but i'm starting to think that maybe it's just you guys that have been wrong this whole time?

You aren’t bad at the game. I’ll give you an ISO later to see if it changes my opinion of you. But my PoE at this point is down to you, Lap, and there is a chance of Epi, Colin or Sprityo as well.

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] Do you still feel like Sprityo is bad?

[mention]sprityo[/mention] lapluie is quiet, but she isn't inactive. She answered pretty promptly when I asked for her reads on people. Speaking of which I might revisit that now...

Uh, *Kyle is

Scotty why Epi? I don’t think he is bad, I’m willing to listen to why you might but I really really would like you and Juliet’s and I to find someone we can agree on today.

Colin, did you get your vote doubled? If so, where are you planning on putting them?

Epi, my problem with Kykeis he spent more time apparently defending and helping a 3P than he did scum hunting. And I still think he trusted me very easily at the beginning of the game. But much like lapluie, with him it’s less what he did wrong and more what he didn’t do much at all.

I think I’m leaning on voting lapluie today. She hasn’t done something bad, I just am left with her or Kyle and she hasn’t done anything particularly good either. So I’m going to [VOTE: lapluie] aubergine

What are some thoughts on Kyle? I think I’m at the place where the two people I trust the least are Kyle and Lapluie. And that’s mostly PoE. I have slight town lean on Colin and Sprityo, a bit more on Epi and I trust Juliet’s and Scotty 100%. What are some thoughts on those two.

Sorry Quin, I have good reason to ask to bring Mac back.

[mention]Scotty[/mention], You should definitely eat the cookie. It's delicious. Also, if someone has the ability to rez I formally request we bring Mac back. ASAP please!

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:09 am Daisy, Scotty, are you guys gonna answer me or naw?

I must've missed the question, what was it?

Why is Epi not on the poll and Macdougall is?

What does a trust fall entail?

That was unfortunate.

I love tomatoes with alittle salt on them. so tasty.

How long until the night is over?

lol ColinIsCoolWithLurking

If more people were present, i would propose GTH reads.

I kind of love Colin this game too. I feel like he is more of a presence in this game than he has been in past games. I'm quite enjoying it.

This sets us back if he didn’t get to communicate why he trusted me. Meh.

Was Golden able to leave you his knowledge before he replaced out [mention]juliets[/mention] ?

Finally caught up and everyone left. Well ok. Guess I'll go write.

First off, I'm sorry to miss the vote. Tonight did not go the way I anticipated. We had a last minute game night come together. I missed my sim and that's ok because soon I am moving away from these people and I will miss them.

Now, I am catching up and will post my thoughts as I go. I will not filter them, so if you read something that disagrees with you because of something that came later just hang in there and see if my opinion changes later in the post. K? Here we go...

Epi/Golden exchange:

Golden most definitely has tried to get on the same page. He has tried to move Scotty and I off each other vote wise, he has tried to get me to move to luna instead of TH. He has definitely been trying to get us to move places he thinks are better. he just didn't in the last round. I think it is silly to jump on him about it for one day. Epi, you can explore any question you want, but him denying or refuting what you say or questioning you doing it, doesn't mean you are somehow being denied the right to do so. I think you are civ, so I would ask you to please stick it out with us. We need civs to play the game. And I appreciate your input.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:34 am When I get the "OMG SCOTTY AND SPACEDAISY AND MACDOUGALL ARE 100% CIVILIANS" role I'll be sure to put forth some effort in a game with zero flips and nothing for me to advance on but everybody's word.

Mac has expressed similar things. I get you guys don't have any reason to believe it. I don't expect you to just fall in line. I've done things to prove myself to Golden. It is not related to his role. I could have done this for you, but I believed Golden was civ, and his treatment of me since then I feel has confirmed that in my mind, this is by no means 100%, but I feel confident in it. And I have yet to see any reason to change my mind. For the last time, Golden's role has nothing to do with why he trusts me. Mine does. I don't have a fantastic role, but I did my part to try and further the town PoE. You guys can doubt it, you can yell about it, but it just is what it is. you are free to suspect me, Golden, Scotty, whoever you please. But we will continue to trust the people we feel have proven their town alignment.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:52 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:58 pm If Golden and Scotty are "a pair" why aren't they voting together?

What kind of question is this? We still have our own opinions.

If you are both utterly convinced that the other one is a civ then why are you not making more of an effort in the thread to unify your vote to achieve what you need?

Seems fishy to me.

Just because you 100% believe someone to be a civ, doesn't mean you think they're right. And in every lynch up until yesterday Golden was doing exactly what you are saying he didn't do. Then yesterday he had a family situation and told us all up front he couldn't be here as much. So I really don't see your argument here.

All that said, I really think we are seeing civs arguing with each other.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:58 am The players who have been vanished have been particularly bizarre choices in my opinion and I feel like that should be analysed.

this was an excellent point. What do you think of the vanished?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:07 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:00 am There’s only been two at night. Nutella said she had a cool role. Quin claimed cop. Inhs vanishing is odd but happened during the day.

Quin's cop claim wasn't the most believable and Nutella's cool role could have been anything and when compared with the forming town bloc I would have been much more want to kill you, Spacedaisy or Scotty on night 2 than Quin. Especially you.

Which in my opinion means the scum are either IN the bloc or are comfortable with it's existence. Why would they be comfortable? Maybe the bloc is barking up the wrong tree? Or perhaps with the existence of doctors they are trying to work around that.

I am just really doubtful that in this game that one of Epi, Golden, Spacedaisy or Scotty wouldn't draw a mafia role card if I didn't.

Speedchuck are the kind of host that randomly assigns roles or do you put the Mafia team together to ensure it's a solid unit?

Linki: I already have protected you tonight Scotty.

Damn, if one of yo doctors could protect me tonight, it would sure be nice to know I will be here tomorrow and hopefully be able to have been useful tonight.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:19 am if we don't prove turnip head's win condition tonight i think he needs to be lynched. I'm concerned with the lack of effort im seeing from him to achieve his wincon. he didn't coordinate his night 3 prediction with me at all and i don't even know if he sent one at all. he didn't coordinate night 1's target with me either (though to be fair that one was kind of obvious?) and only coordinated night 2 with me after being prompted

Frankly, this would make me less suspicious of TH, his claim is relatively tame in this game, and if we seemed unwilling to work with him, I could see why he might get bored. His behavior in thread would seem to me to line up with that.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:33 am I’d love to get Nutella back if we could. I wonder if the vanished get to use their powers since they’re technically alive

I second this.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:53 am i inherited nutella's role when she died and it is cool but kind of difficult to use in a positive way.

well that's good, and I didn't expect that claim. this game has my brain all twisted.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:59 am i can pull people's last night actions into tonight, and make them happen now instead of then

Wait, are you saying you can do this or have done this, or both? Can I suggest using it on someone you really suspect of being bad? Because if you happen to hit a baddie carrying out the vanishing, it will be delayed and you'll know it was them when it shows up tomorrow with two vanishings instead.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:39 am scotty I think? in hopes of doctoring whoever his night 1 target was again

No wait, I think I am misunderstanding. So you can basically replicate someone's activity the following night?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:12 am And speedchuck if you didn't do any of this stuff I am speculating please do it for Retrocausality 2.

Spacedaisy you been watching the thread for ages what you doin?

Catching up, you maniacs keep posting and everytime I think I'm on the last page you've added another!

I'm unsure why there is all this role name claiming when the host explicitly discouraged it. Also, I'm jealous because I don't have a cool flavor role like that. mine is kind of generic.

Mac, I will prove myself to you, but... I need a name. Just remember later that I said that, ok?

I tried to prove myself to Scotty, I'm not sure he really caught what I was putting out there though

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:57 pm Golden is in the "Kill Bill murder siren playing in his head" phase in the Approaching Colin evolution. Daisy and Dunya became quite familiar with it in U-Pick.

huh?

Clearly Nutella or Quin would be the best options for a Rez. Plus they might be able to tell us if Sig’s claims hold any semblance of truth.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:53 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:29 pm No i've not sent anyone back yet, there'd be alot more theater involved if I did.

MAc right now has 1 strike to get sent somewhere, but otherwise y'all are good.

IF town wants me to pick a town leader to send back so they can chat it up with the deadies, get info, and be safe from night actions I'd be down for it.

Wait, that 1 strike was to get sent somewhere?

Can I have 3 strikes please and get the fuck out of here?

it’s a tough game on everyone I think.

"yeah that was weird that luna fake claimed cop, but she wasn't bad."

"Quin shouldn't have lied about the message but Quin was right." ::vanishes INH to prove how great he is::

"I have a cool civ power that lets me die and go talk to people in the vanished chat, in fact I left a nice message there for whoever I send there next, but don't worry I'll bring you back."

The only thing that could sink his claim is if the vanished reappear. That point is the only way in his favor. This claim will be useless if a a civ comes back and can say "Sig is full of shit"

Also, who says this doesn't have a mafia utility? Game with no flips remember? He could just be gaining cred from deadies who may be coming back into the game. Or getting useful info from them to use to get himself town cred here. This is assuming he actually did have chat with the dea, which we don't know for sure.

I'm not 100% sold on sig being bad, but I would put myself at probably 90%. That point about a rezzed civ being able to counterclaim is the only thing that keeps me at 90% though.

I just think I don't have a dead chat to rely to know if he is telling the truth or not. And the vast majority of stuff that happened in thread seem to me to say he is going full on riverdance trying to get outta this one.

I think he meant INH?

Here are some coincidences that don't sit well with me.

1. sig campaigning for pres before the night started and no one was talking about it that I recall. Turns out that according to TH sig was who he picked... does anyone else find this really pingy?

2. sig vanished after the claim of Quin (which I don't recall Quin walking back) and then Quin vanishes, courtesy of the PP and sig reappears afterwards. Now sig is trying to talk down Quin's claim.

I just don't see why i should believe that sig is good. Because INH is the one was vanished assumedly by sig's hand. Let's assume that Quin was telling the truth, sig vanished because he knew he was going to be lynched, luna gets lynched in his stead and on her way out the door tosses a green peek at this dead player she would not know for sure is coming back or not but she stated it like she knew, then Quin dies and sig reappears. If all that is true then INH was not bad and why are we giving sig credit for vanishing him as if it is a point in his favor? The mafia vanished the person who is the most damaging to sig's town credibility, right before sig reappeared. Someone tell me why i should believe him? I want to know why my mind should be changed about sig right now.

The nice thing about Alex making cookies last night, is that now I can have a cookie after lunch and dinner.

So am I seeing that sig is the one who vanished Qun? Is sig unvanishing Quin as well then? Because he said that Quin wasn't lying about the message, right after he said that he did.

lmao I must be out of it because I didn't even notice I said Golden and Daisy, I meant Golden and Scotty.

Either Golden and Daisy are both bad or they are both good. I tend to think they are both good. I hope Scotty is now convinced he can trust me.

This game is breaking my brain. I’m curious if Scotty has changed his mind about me yet.

I thought it was a mat too actually.

Also, I was the one who thought you had special knowledge because I missed it in the setup. I did go back and research it and found it was incorrect, which I then pointed out in thread myself. Apparently Golden missed me saying it because he did the research on his own as well I guess?