The Syndicate

Kara didn’t say anything in chat so it looks like that was bunk.

Also I floo’d Kara before all this to attempt to learn who Speed watched.

I really do understand if everybody wants to lynch me, I bungled Jack pretty badly but if you have any direct questions you’d like to ask, shoot

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:06 am DharmaHelper
juliets 2.0
timmer
Lunalee
poutanko
nutella
Sloonei
karavalenge
sprityo
ColinIsCool
Quin

Man I think we've nailed it. Quin or Colin. Has to be. One or both.

Can you elaborate a little more on why not Kara than you did above? Because I don’t think it’s Quin, unless there is a solution to that night action shit that points to it.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:44 pm But you may have a point that there wasn't much prompting to bring it up at the point that he did. And the rest of the case on Colin is solid; I also had an orange interactive read of him and Jack. I feel like I had reasons to townread him (beyond pout's check) but the bad things might outweigh the good here.

Yup, nutella is right bc Jack constantly asked me to floo him but that’s a pretty solid case. I got nothing I can really say in defense other than Jack tricked me good.

I won’t have time for any heavy lifting for the rest of the game probably but I can promise you I’ll use my vote to make poor decisions.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:57 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:45 pm Anyway all that to say:

Do I think Owner/Sloonei is his teammate? It certainly looks that way if you look at the evidence. (Owner's behavior pre-sub. Jack's Flooville Intervention to get me to pull back from Sloonei/Owner. Sloonei's behavior D5. Long Con's defense of Owner. Long Con's vote to save Owner. Long Con's insistence that Owner/Sloonei "townslipped.")

Wow writing it all out..... fuck did I catch 3/5ths of the baddie team?
But we decided LC saving owner was not teammate behavior.

We did?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:45 pm Anyway all that to say:

Do I think Owner/Sloonei is his teammate? It certainly looks that way if you look at the evidence. (Owner's behavior pre-sub. Jack's Flooville Intervention to get me to pull back from Sloonei/Owner. Sloonei's behavior D5. Long Con's defense of Owner. Long Con's vote to save Owner. Long Con's insistence that Owner/Sloonei "townslipped.")

Wow writing it all out..... fuck did I catch 3/5ths of the baddie team?

What do you think of his attitude post-flip where he admits to looking like ass?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:32 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:31 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:29 pm Also it goes without saying that Sloonei looks Primo Garbo after D5 but my certainty in that regard is clouded. On the one hand it looks Primo Garbo.

On the other hand, if I caught 3/5ths of the mafia team, my head would explode trying to contain my ego.
Explain?
Explain what? I'd be happy to.

Why Sloonei looks bad after D5

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:29 pm Also it goes without saying that Sloonei looks Primo Garbo after D5 but my certainty in that regard is clouded. On the one hand it looks Primo Garbo.

On the other hand, if I caught 3/5ths of the mafia team, my head would explode trying to contain my ego.

Explain?

I hate that I’m probably wrong about Sloonei.

poutanko wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:56 pm ColinIsCool, Sloonei, Lunalee, Jackofhearts2005
SCUM

Didn’t you town check me .... ?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:26 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:22 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:22 pm Although does 5 with 1 unkillable seem a bit much? Could be 4.
5 does seem a bit much.
novaselinenever
INH
Long Con
Jack
[Jack's partner]

Whoops, forgot about nova too.

Although does 5 with 1 unkillable seem a bit much? Could be 4.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:20 pm Now that we know Jack/INH/Long Con are 3 of maybe 5, should be very cool and easy for a re-reading of the three of them to help to flush out their partners.

QFT

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:56 pm It was wild. Crazy, even.

PS I am literally unlynchable. Not a brag.
Psh don't worry we'll have your teammate dead before you can say "dark mark"

Not to rain on the parade but that thinking didn’t work out so well for some of y’all last time this happened ....

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:11 pm If anybody with like Protego or Wingardium Leviosa or even Sacrificial Protection wants to like...help a brother out tonight that'd be good and cool.

I used my Leviosa on Jack already to roleblock him.

@nutella

@nutella can you quote the spreadsheet and see who was compatible with Jack?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:01 pm nutella
Luna
Juliets
DharmaHelper
poutanko
Quin
timmer
Sprit
kara
Mac
Colin

Kara and Mac why, and what about Sprit has you changing your view?

I am so goddamn bad at this game.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:56 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:55 pm wow, good one DH. So does the Horcrux still protect Jack or was it a one use thing? I'm just super dumb this game.

tons of linki
It protects him until we find his teammate is how I read it.

So what was your thing against Timmer about?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:54 pm Anyone think Nutella looks bad for jumping all over the joint then landing on an invincible Jack? Or nah?

Could be but I’ve read Nutella as good pretty much all game.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:49 pm DharmaHelper is my master and I am a silly nincompoop.

Yup

You guys, I’m a cop and I town checked Jack, why would you do this?

Y tho

I don’t fuckin get anything man. Putting my phone down until later.

Here’s a question though: why does scum poutanko cop Speed as bad knowing it’s wrong?

I never used to play Mafia with people who were literally never wrong, but the Syndicate apparently has a lot of those folks. Pretty weird!

People should get off sprit. Someone is lying in this trio.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:43 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:42 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:38 pm I am going to get Nightkilled for handing you all *another* baddie on a fucking plate and you don't want him lol ok good and cool.
Why would you get nightkilled as opposed to, I dunno, one of the seven cops?
Multi confirmed town versus counter claimed three cops

How do you not see that?

Why not Sloonei, then, if he’s also “multi confirmed town”?

DH I townread you so I would like to see what you see bit you’re gonna have to untangle this Jack is bad/timmer is his teammate stuff a bit.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:38 pm I am going to get Nightkilled for handing you all *another* baddie on a fucking plate and you don't want him lol ok good and cool.

Why would you get nightkilled as opposed to, I dunno, one of the seven cops?

[VOTE: POUTANKO] aubergine

Here’s an idea: everybody is scum but me. Pack it up

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:26 pm Ugh now I'm going to get in trouble here at work ffs lol...

DH, tell me ONE FUCKING THING jack said that is wrong? All I'm hearing from you is that you think there can't be 3 cops, and you are ignoring that one of the others has had their claimed results proven false. Tell me SOMETHING beyond just that "there can be only 2 cops". I trust you, but I can't even see a single reason you've listed beyond "he must be lying?"

Dude don’t you get it, we deserve to lose if we don’t follow DH blindly with no reason other than “I’ve been right once”

I don’t want to lynch anybody claiming cop tbh but if I did the top one should be poutanko, they’ve definitively led us astray before.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:22 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:22 pm My brain is very confused by being convinced that Sloobei is scum and also agreeing with him re: Jack
Jack and luna say they've ID'd me as town, clearly they both can't be wrong.

If *Secrets* bullshit gets applied to me then you ain’t getting off that easy partner

My brain is very confused by being convinced that Sloobei is scum and also agreeing with him re: Jack

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:11 pm My gut reaction is that if one of our cops is lying, it's poutanko. I'm not sure I think any of our cops are lying, but luna's claim is batshit insane if she's bad, and Jack's behavior, now that it's been explained, seems to make perfect sense if he's a cop trying to lay low.

Yup

I don’t understand the Quin/Speed stuff. Any of it.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:12 pm Guys please just vote Luna with me this reeks in all kinds of directions.

I just think Sloonei is the more sensible move but I’ll do it if the wagon can win.

FWIW Luna attempted a fakeclaim of sorts to stave off a lynch in Retro when we were scum.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:02 pm I am staying put on Sloonei I think. The three Sprit voters are people who won’t be here at EOD and Sloonei. Don’t want to fuck around.

Alternatively if a wagon does form on Luna lynching her would solve all that but if she is a cop that’s a bigger risk.

Nut, go back to Sloonei and we can test Luna’s honesty without risking lynching a cop.

I am staying put on Sloonei I think. The three Sprit voters are people who won’t be here at EOD and Sloonei. Don’t want to fuck around.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:57 pm I'm not buying Luna's claim for the simple reason that her targets are shit. [VOTE: luna] aubergine

I was a little peturbed on this note as well.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:54 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:40 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:37 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:29 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:16 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:48 pm

You're excessively confident for someone who's not even trying to figure out what's going on.
I don’t know why you keep saying that. I have read every post in this thread, which is more than you can say, and I am very aware of the arguments being put forth. Get outta here with this baseless “Colin isn’t paying attention” shit.
I’m waiting for you to prove it. According to you I haven’t done anything all game. Get out of here with that shit.
No.
Why not?
I don’t mean to say that you’ve done nothing and I think you’ll actually find that’s a misrepresentation of what I did say. To add what I’ve said, though, you’ve mischaracterized most other things I’ve put forth when referring to them and that feels deliberate. We will have to agree to disagree until our alignments are revealed.
No we won’t. My mind can be changed. I am doubting my suspicion of you right now.

My issue is the supposed confidence in your vote, which is paired with a seeming unwillingness to discuss it (which this entire conversation is highlighting again). Your initial accusation was that I’m “doing my best to appear disengaged” and that it’s “an act.” You followed that up by saying I’ve done nothing other than “pop in to say I haven’t read the thread, deflect from Owner arguments, and defend myself.” All of this tells me that you aren’t actually reading my posts too closely. For one, I don’t recall ever deflecting anything about Owner until a moment ago. But more importantly, it ignores all of the things I have had to say, which is a pretty substanital portion of my posts which you’re conveniently not adressing. Sure I’ve defended myself and said that I haven’t read the whole thread. Those are things that have needed to be said in the course of conversation. I’ve said a lot of other more productive things around that.

I’ll repeat myself for clarity: I don’t like the amount of confidence you seem to have in this vote, considering you can’t seem to produce a read about the player you’re voting for. Your read is about something that happened to Owner on Day 1. You are voting for Sloonei on Day 5, and yet your acknowledgment of him is to say he’s done nothing substantial.

You say I can’t produce a read but dismiss my read as “not following your posts closely.” And I’m not interested in arguing because I don’t really care if I convince anybody of my genuine feelings when I am being genuine, especially someone whom I suspect.

So scumteam is Sloonei + Luna?

(Only about 75% serious here.)

Yup, spells have no restrictions.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:39 pm Okay listen up. I have use of the divination spell and here are my results:
N1 - Owner/Sloonei TOWN
N2 - Epi TOWN
N3 - used another ability
N4 - DharmaHelper TOWN

I didn't want to claim already. But it's day 5 and I don't want to knowingly watch a townie get lynched. So @timmer @DharmaHelper @ColinIsCool @Jackofhearts2005 make a better choice and get off Sloonei.

If you need further proof, look at my first rainbow read post. I listed Epi and Owner in dark green, since I had checked them by then.

So do we have consensus on whether Divination can be used in this manner (consecutively)?

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