The Syndicate

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:57 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:50 am Yay I was right on DDL. Sorry that I still couldn't trust you, DH.

Speedy got my monies.

It's all good. You're new. You didn't realize how great I am

I realized that you were great. I just didn't recognize you as good/townie as well.

The game I was just modding ended too, and mafia also won.

Yay I was right on DDL. Sorry that I still couldn't trust you, DH.

Speedy got my monies.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:43 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:42 pm The votes on Soko have formed a lot faster than the ones on Luna, so would that make Soko more likely town? Or does The Syndicate have a different meta or culture around fast wagons forming (being more likely on townies)?

We are keen on changing super fast near the end, but it's hard to make a definite conclusion about which one is the civ or bad wagons.

I'm making bold guesses here.

Yeah, this is a trend on a lot of sites. I guess I can see why Dizzy enjoys playing on here. He likes forming end of the day shenanigans.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:42 pm The DDL lynch melted super fast. Only DH is still on it.

Yeah this is bullshit. One of WIlgy or Luna is bad and people are trying to save them.

But Luna is on Wigly. So they probably wouldn't be together. unless Luna is vote that way for credit, but even then you probably still wouldn't buss a slot this early in the game if you didn't have to.

The votes on Soko have formed a lot faster than the ones on Luna, so would that make Soko more likely town? Or does The Syndicate have a different meta or culture around fast wagons forming (being more likely on townies)?

*Owner puts some music on*

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:34 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:29 pm DH was the last to give his skill stats in our nightly discussion, so that kind of worried me a little bit. @DharmaHelper

Fucks sake I get it.

Sorry... *hides in the corner* My captain seems mad at me.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:31 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:26 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:19 pm I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe here. How are people reading the same thread I am and thinking DDL is the most suspicious player and ignoring speedchuck? The Luna train I can sort of understand a little more, but am I the only one who thinks speed sounds off?

Like how is he different? Not sure if you'll have enough time to explain this though.

I don't know if I can explain it right now and you haven't played much with him have you? He just has a weird stiffness to his tone that doesn't smell of genuine hunting town speed. It's like.... idk not quite like he's trying too hard, but he's trying in the wrong way.

I don't believe I have played with him before, unless he has maybe played elsewhere. Would you say he's more easy going as town? or is that still not quite right?

DH was the last to give his skill stats in our nightly discussion, so that kind of worried me a little bit. [mention]DharmaHelper[/mention]

When did it change from a 9:30 ending to a 10:30 one?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:19 pm I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe here. How are people reading the same thread I am and thinking DDL is the most suspicious player and ignoring speedchuck? The Luna train I can sort of understand a little more, but am I the only one who thinks speed sounds off?

Like how is he different? Not sure if you'll have enough time to explain this though.

Being on the lead wagon scares me. Like is mafia just not around or am I just wrong?

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:54 pm You know after thinking about it further. I can't really drop the hammer on Wilgy just because of lack of Activity and what I have just yet. I think I'll keep him on my list of suspects and : [VOTE: LUNA] for now.

I'll keep an eye on the thread to see if anyone can give me anything that might swing my vote.

So what makes the case on luna better?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:13 pm
The disclaimer was an attempt to save skin. There is always a chance someone I think is scum will flip town. When that happens, I know the target shifts to whoever started the train, or was active in it. I really hope you guys realize that my intentions were pure, and we don't end up with another townie lynch today. Because if you lynch me I WILL flip town.

So let's say for one instance I take these words at face value, who would you be willing to lynch whose name isn't DDL?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:06 pm
Do I seriously look like I care about my crew? I only hired 3, we failed our mission, and I have now fired you and found no one willing to be a replacement. I've pretty much given up on that aspect of the game right now.

Do you not mesh well with your crew? Or just complications with other stuff in your life making you feel a little bit stressed out right now?

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine [mention]Lunalee[/mention]

I still don't want DDL lynched, but I also found this post troubling.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:59 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:26 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:59 pm I see no way that Golden isn't town in this game.*

Be careful, that is a dangerous path to take.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:59 pm So why is MacDougall and DrWilgy voting to lynch him? Not a good look for either of them.

Agree with this though.

*disclaimer: I am an ignorant townie, I may make mistakes.

So why the need for the disclaimer?

She says this below:

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:59 pm I see no way that Golden isn't town in this game. So why is MacDougall and DrWilgy voting to lynch him? Not a good look for either of them.

Then this post where she votes for mac.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:02 pm I'm going to [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine for now.

She makes another post and then makes her disclaimer post.

It's also as if you knew Mac would flip town. I'm kind of wondering what the votes exactly looked like at that moment. Cause if the votes were in favor of Mac dying then, the disclaimer would be an attempt to save skin.

Also, the problem is when the game is slow. I'll just have several posts in a row where it is just me talking, which Idk if everyone wants to read through all that.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:44 pm
The best leaders are the ones who don't want it.

Also, if this train of thought is true, I would probably be a good leader at work in real life.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:48 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:15 pm Regarding the rest of the Luna case:

I think it is based on her lack of hunting, and her excuses for her lack of hunting, yes? I could see that coming from town or scum Luna. Please summarize the case, if I have misunderstood it.

It's not just scumhunting, it's how much she seems to care about the crew aspect of the game in comparison.

It's such an easy thing for mafia to latch on and coast with it's not even funny.

Yeah, I still don't want you lynched.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:27 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:56 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:35 am Man it looks like I went with the popular choices, but I swear I had those people in mind before the thread opened. Guess the rest of you had similar ideas.

This post also gives me bad vibes, seems overly worried with how others will view your votes.

Kinda, but it's more like a vague annoyance at seeing that my picks were not as cool or original as I thought

Oh nutella, has Type 4 in their core Enneagram. Yay!!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:56 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:35 am Man it looks like I went with the popular choices, but I swear I had those people in mind before the thread opened. Guess the rest of you had similar ideas.

This post also gives me bad vibes, seems overly worried with how others will view your votes.

Maybe a little bit, I guess I can read either way

Enrique wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:19 pm I'm here! This looks very complicated lol but at least there's not a lot of talk yet. Will catch up now.

Not sure, if I'm crazy about this post either. It seems like he's potentially excusing himself by blaming future behavior "complicated setup" And then he seems excited over there not being too many posts yet. hmm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:40 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:39 pm Rereading some, today seems slow but this is also one of the few games in a while when I've felt lazier than some games.

Is that a scumtell of yours?

Lazy would be more so a personality trait.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:58 am I see Luna's fairly popular. On the one hand I'd love her as a Captain but I would also love to have her on my crew.

^posts like this one still make me unsure of my captain. Where he talks about two things but doesn't give a clear statement about where he is actually at.

Rereading some, today seems slow but this is also one of the few games in a while when I've felt lazier than some games.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:41 pm Btw my gif is from The Hangover, which is basically a modern classic [first film only]

I was thinking Step Brothers, but yeah, I assumed it was in that genre. I've never been drunk before, and I guess those films tend to be more appealing to the male audience.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:37 pm ISOs are in the first post of the game @Owner of a Lonely Heart

Mostly, I was looking to quote the Thanos picture. But I found a Regina George one that I didn't see or remember seeing before so it worked out fine. But thanks, I might use it some. But I also like to read things in context if I can.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:30 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:28 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:16 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:01 pm I see some captains preemptively talking about 'loyalty'. Bah humbug, the whole lot of that. I've changed my mind from earlier. I play to the highest, most interesting, and most fun captains. If I am not involved and enjoying myself, I will seek to jump ship.

Currently I'm very interested in jumping on TH's ship, but we'll see where things go.

That said, Mutiny should only be undertaken if we find the captain to be a scummer. Mutineers should bite it, for all I care.

Speedchuck... your my friend.

You're.

As in you're in no position to judge who should be captain if you misuse "Your" in a sentence.

It's 2019 and I don't give a fuck.

I respect your baseball bat more than your grammer fetish. Be a good cap'n m8.

Potentially DH not with DrWilgy, if DH is mafia.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:56 pm

dharmahelper hiring for Serenity,

@Enrique This is a formal request for you to join my crew.

Anyone else want to hop aboard?

Another well placed Negan gif, but still why Negan and not some other gif. It seems like Negan is a culture thing here. Like Dizzy and I sometimes are with cats or music for me.

I need to break for lunch shortly, otherwise I'll likely skip it. I'll probably just a take down more notes later.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:34 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:27 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:11 pmwhat

You are not used people reading into fluff?

90% of my game is fluff so read into it whatever you want

Good, it's more fun that way. :P

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:32 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:28 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:25 pm What's the second tell tho.

You said you lied and didn't want to know. Why should I say the second tell if you're gonna give me that kind of reaction?

I didn't want a wall of pictures, 60% of which didn't apply to me.

Sorry, I didn't locate an ISO function so I'm skimming the thread for pictures and music.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:25 pm What's the second tell tho.

You said you lied and didn't want to know. Why should I say the second tell if you're gonna give me that kind of reaction?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:11 pmwhat

You are not used people reading into fluff?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:16 pm I lied I lied I don't wanna know the tells please stop.

Something you may want to consider in the future is that generally when I say something there is a purpose to it.

But why would my captain lie to me? Is it something I did wrong?

NAI = Non Alignment Indicative

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:10 am

KyungDaisy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:04 am Dom has requested to be replaced, I’m working on that currently.

This one might be NAI. I think it would be stretch for me to read that as a partner getting replaced.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:45 pm Picture of my future squad and spaceship:

Not sure where the gif is from, but it seems like he looks to be taking things easy. I'm not sure if that's his regular town mindset or if it's a scum looking to coast this game. I'm not sure overall.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:40 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:45 pm Picture of my future squad and spaceship:

More Negan or possible fluffy interactions between potential teammates.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:31 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:26 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:18 am The only thing I'm looking for in a crew is hard workers who pull their weight. That and loyalty.

Mhmmm...? Am currently reconsidering my vote for you then...?

Unrelated to the tell, I kind of want to hear from Glorfindel about why they were reconsidering. Also, [mention]Glorfindel[/mention] what's your username on MU?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:33 pm
Would I prefer someone who publicly said they saw at least two reasons I could be a mafia member to publicly explain those two reasons?

Why yes yes indeed I would very much so.

I didn't say mafia; I said scum. And for those wondering usually, I count 3p as scum. But do you guys ever get friendly 3p over here?

Tell 1: The Picture/Gif Tell (can also sometimes be called the music tell, as I use it on both pictures and music. Yes, I have in fact caught scum this way before.

DharmaHelper has used multiple Negan pictures. Subconsciously, I feel like people post pictures of villains see themselves as being the bad guys themselves. I actually did not finish watching The Walking Dead. I didn't really like Negan. Maybe if I gave him another shot he would turn out to be an alright guy, but my first impression of him made me stop watching the show. So at first, I didn't really think all too much about the Negan pictures as is it really right for me to judge Negan as I didn't take time to get to know him? But then DharmaHelper also posted a picture of Thanos. So either personally, DharmaHelper can easily relate himself to those 2 characters or subconsciously he's bad so he posts pictures of villains.

Sanggolden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:52 pm DH is getting a fair number of votes as captain. He's gonna be all



No-one is gonna mutiny against that guy.

hmm, I seemed to have missed Sanggolden doing this too. But the Negan pictures could be a regular occurrence from DH so it could potentially be NAI. But then I still have to evaluate the use of Thanos.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:21 pm

Much thanks to those who picked me to be a captain. I put my picks in. So far the only gut read I have is DDL wants to mutiny real bad so he can chill with one of the other three captains.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:47 pm

Who wants to be on the winning crew?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:30 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:47 pm

Who wants to be on the winning crew?

It looks like I overlooked this one. TH either sees himself as a good character or I could also see this as a teammate to teammate interaction where he's indirectly calling out his scum partner, that's never his intention, obviously though.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:32 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:33 pm Epi is only voting for people who have zero votes and being silent about it.

Why?

^Also, the coffee tell can sometimes be extended to other beverages.

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:26 pm DH! Hang on, I got ya buddy. I found this laying around somewhere... with the proper application of this red sharpie marker.... yup... got it!

I guess this picture would depend on whether or not Soko sees Trump as a bad guy. But at first glance, I guess Soko could maybe be with DH as well. I'll need to look at this one again. It seems I missed more pictures than my first thought.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:30 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:26 pm DH! Hang on, I got ya buddy. I found this laying around somewhere... with the proper application of this red sharpie marker.... yup... got it!

Regina George - Mean Girls another evil character

I didn't see this one initially.

Sanggolden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:20 am

KyungDaisy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:17 am You can just call me Scary Nuna.

But look - I'm LEE Sanggolden, not KIM Sanggolden.

Daisy is Kim Kyungdaisy.

Unfortunately, I don't know how to interpret this one.

Sanggolden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:22 am Maybe this is the one you need:

Again, same with this one. It's hard to make out.

But once I share this tell. Pictures and music after said tell will be less effective.

I'm gonna keep quoting pictures, but I think you'll start to get it.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:49 pm DH did someone spike your coffee with cocaine today?

The coffee tell :o

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:43 pm If Enrique flips bad lynch DH next.

DH did pick him first, but there's a chance one is mafia and the other is 3p. But yeah, I have multiple worlds going at the moment.

It seems like only 1 person really would like to know the tells. I'm not sure if spoiling the tells are worth only one person's interest in them.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:22 pm TFW Owner was asked at 5am what two scum tells she saw in me and its now 12:22 PM

Yeah, if I want to see how people react to post, I have to give it time. But I was also considering making it a private matter to be discussed on our ship tonight. But would you prefer it to be public?

Derp, you can barely see the bolded. I should use colors more.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:46 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:44 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:54 pm -> I think DDL looks bad but I'm not sure
-> I also think he's acting suspicious

This is pathetic.

I haven't done my intended big post yet as far as "everyone I suspect and why" but in my catching up just on the posts I've missed since last night this one caught my eye. You trippin boss.

This is a slow day, with people who normally post a lot being happy not to say much, with a bunch of them accusing me softly but not actually going through with it.

It sounds like a civ lynch in the making. Not necessarily of me, but of some low resiatance wagon that baddies manage to latch on.

I want to prevent that shit. I want drama. I want scumhunting. I want arguing. This day 1 is too cool for my tastes.

The bolded feels a little weird.

Derp..why is that on separate line...oh well

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:08 pm Nova, you haven't wowed me yet. Did Favorites wear you out? Or is your favorites play something I should expect from you in most games?

I'm changing my vote to Nova.

[mention]
novaselinenever[/mention]

Nova, you haven't wowed me yet. Did Favorites wear you out? Or is your favorites play something I should expect from you in most games?

I'm changing my vote to Nova.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:36 am Owner sketched me out a lil too

Tell me more. :P

DLL looks to be playing differently than my most recent game with him where he was scum. He could be changing it up, but I don't want him to be the lynch today.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:53 am
I'll plan to do that. Sort of busy at the moment. I especially want to look at Golden, Enrique, and those voting for them.

Why those 2? And why do you want to look at the others voting for them?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:33 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:28 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:33 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:04 pm DDL keeps doing and saying mad suspicious shit so its like...is he bad or is he bad at being bad.

Dear Captain DharmaHelper, why are you saying stuff like this? Also if you are going to say this stuff, wouldn't it be better and more productive if you proved it? Also, I'm very concerned; it seems you have done 2 scum tells from my perspective, which is a conflict of interest. Please stop being scummy.

Kindest regards,

Owner Of A Lonely Heart, a fellow passenger abroad your

You just did what you think I just did, so I'm not too concerned. Also, I've explained at least once why I find DDL suspicious and several other people have pointed out suspicious shit he's done.

I dunno. Seems like you are reaching a bit here.

He says before he realizes the post he's talking about is one he wrote during a fever and forgot to post.

Anyway I'll go put together why I think DDL is bad here in a sec. Or maybe I'll wait till later. I'm not the boss of me.

I'm to judge what is there. If it isn't there, I can't assess if there is some truth to what you say or not.