The Syndicate

hmm another game won as scum, good job to my mafia team!
I sadly didn't track the second half of the game, but seems this game did well.
Loved Novas setup and the roles! Well done all!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:59 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:58 pm So the drago-rej thing holds then

If I was scumdrago, I’d get townRej lynched for free.

Or you will get lynched like Drago D1 and this would cause a mafialynch D1

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:59 pm So general thoughts on lc? I've seen back and forth but really no solid consensus. Personally this is the first game in awhile where he doesn't seem scummy to me. Buuuuut, every game I've played where I thought he was scum he was civ. Ergo since I dont suspect him I now do suspect him slightly based of that. I'll be reading through his stuff and see what I see.

didnt like his mac and dom interactions earlier in the game
his gif reaction in the NP was fun tho, I liked that
have nothing to say against his vote placements this DP

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:51 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:47 pm

boo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:15 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:53 pm changing from boo to TSP

After TSPs flyby on me I'll trust you over him and move my LC vote to [VOTE: Tony] aubergine

I was skimming through your ISO and I saw you doesn't have any clear stance on Dunya rn or I missed it. I am interested to hear about it since based on her votes she suspects us as scum. I can't get a good read on her rn.

Don't like this

I'm becoming more supportive of the rej lynch by the minute

boo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:15 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:53 pm changing from boo to TSP

After TSPs flyby on me I'll trust you over him and move my LC vote to [VOTE: Tony] aubergine

I was skimming through your ISO and I saw you doesn't have any clear stance on Dunya rn or I missed it. I am interested to hear about it since based on her votes she suspects us as scum. I can't get a good read on her rn.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:35 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:34 pm It's Friday the thirteenth. Maybe jack can be lynched.

Wouldn’t count anyway cause there are two players that get lynched today.

What is your case on Collin? help me to get uptodate

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:24 pm Caught up a bit will have more thoughts come the night phase voting for rej and sloonie.

I really like the boo case on him and for rej I've been sus on him for awhile.

I'd much rather go with nanook today. But that's not happening so I'm throwing my votes somewhere where Itll do something, bet it'll come back to bite me.

look who pops up when I am working my ass off now

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:11 pm i moved my vote from nutella to rej. his posts have not inspired the confidence in him i hoped to see.

never hope on Rej, I am a complicated person lol
but I am back rn with confidence so ask me something rather

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:01 pm For me all three of Tony, Colin, and Sig are in a weird place where I want to suspect them overall but they each had like one post that felt really towny.

What is the current case on Collin? I must admit, same as he nullreads me I also nullread him, gonna revisit it. I missed some posts from the second half of the current DP and I am still working through it.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:57 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:42 pm didnt knew defenses aren't welcome here

also people can never read me lmao

ayayyy

First the ISO to my voters:

DDL: Has a misinterpretation of things against me. Doesn't like me for reasons. Tho I agree with him on the points against boo. Boo voted Drago off with uss and then he tried to sell us a Zemmi lynch possibility. His vote on boo was well placed, seems town.
Oh and yes Dragon D. Luffy I am a noob, what attracts me in mafia are mechanics and setups and roles, I just admire the mindgaming in the DPs and I can't reach that level yet.

Didn't know or think you were a noob before then and still don't think now. You have more games under your belt than I can count with one hand, that doesn't qualify as noob anymore in my book.

Aye thanks my man, glad reading this

changing from boo to TSP

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:09 pm Speaking of Rej, I asked him for reads and he supplied some but I haven't responded. So:

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:42 pm ayayyy

First the ISO to my voters:

DDL: Has a misinterpretation of things against me. Doesn't like me for reasons. Tho I agree with him on the points against boo. Boo voted Drago off with uss and then he tried to sell us a Zemmi lynch possibility. His vote on boo was well placed, seems town.
Oh and yes Dragon D. Luffy I am a noob, what attracts me in mafia are mechanics and setups and roles, I just admire the mindgaming in the DPs and I can't reach that level yet.

A town read on DDL which also includes a scum read on boo. If I am following correctly, Rej, you town read DDL because of his vote for boo? Why is that? Why do you suspect boo, and do you care that DDL has since changed his read on boo?

Speedchuck: Also went for Creature like DDL early DP1, often civillian behaviour to clear out a person's alignment or stance. Can't find scummy posts in his ISO. Also what does he have against weasleness? Weasles are cute animals. I want one as pet dafuck

You say you can't find any scummy posts in his ISO. Do you see any townie posts? You seem to suggest that his early behavior toward DDL and creature was a good look. Why?

Jack: Normal entrance, didn't went for creature, sheeped a vote on me which I rly don't like, until I was thematized more. Gave fuel to my wagon basically which I don't apreciate. Between the posts you can often find WIFOM... #422 I didn't like the "blah blah statement"
I see a dimension where jack and boo interactions could be W/V or W/W interactions. Deserves its own reanalysis.
#1007 lmao, is this throw off something a civ would say? and if yes why? Jackofhearts2005
less townlean on Jack, but I don't think scum would recklessly jump on my wagon at this point?

All of this is negative until that final point at the end, where you seem to walk it back a bit. Then you vote for Jack anyway. What? I'm also not totally clear on what you don't like about Jack's posts. You suggest that "WIFOM" is part of the problem, but I don't follow what exactly you mean or are referring to.

TSP: Interesting ISO, he likes using the term W/W and this implies that he is explicitly scumhunting and he is flexible about it. Could be to create chaos or to find early leaking scum. Slightly more civ lean in the entrance. Suspecting Sloonei, then moving votes from nutella to me, + lecturing boo, since then his votes didnt change. Interesting that he did not interact with the Dom and Dragomir wagons. Were they civ caused autorunner?
50/50 on TSP depending on his bigger sheme.

This is all a big shrug, and the word "interesting" appears twice without judgments being made. Gun to your head, is Tony town or scum?

Sloonei: Targets DDL, a justified target to inquisition, flips later to Boo. alot of meta talks in their posts which I cant dissect. Questioning both wagons alot is giving Sloo civ points. #653 the "shrug vote post" was kinda cute and innocent. Another townlean.
#683 @Sloonei I think we played together before? or did you host for me? there was something before that is not accurate...
and I missed answering your question, I answered because I wanted to speed up forcing an interaction, since I am mre like a peek a boo player. lmao
And yes me and Drago are compatible as scum partners, we won games together, one or two no remembering.
Sloonei asks justified questions further on, I know zero about their meta at that point, feels like dissecting a complete stranger and it's interesting.
Sloo vs nut? deserves its own post.

Yes hello, that's me. Asking questions is my shtick, especially early on and when I don't know players. As you can probably tell right now. It's just how I work through things in the game. I like to know how people are interpreting the game.
I may have hosted a game that you played before. Sockville, maybe? Anyway, you suggest that you're interested in my interactions with nutella. Why? What's your read on those exchanges?

I am tired as fuck I will place votes now
one will be boo the other will be Jack, I am ready to move my votes to TSP for the sake of seeing where it leads with my reeks or nutella because there is also something going on.

Will keep other ISOs for tomorrow.

Good Night
[VOTE: boo] aubergine
[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Why did you choose to focus on the people who were voting for you? What don't you like about boo?

I thought it helps tackling my voters, all in all they are fine guys, the scum ratio on my wagon is super small probably
tony hmm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:23 pm Not catching up but I did see the @ post. I subscribe to the school of “Rej is scum if Drago says so” school. So that’s that. Also he had a few meh posts day 1 but I saw some things I liked while I was around day 2. I’m willing to change that.
DDL was giving me scum vibes. I don’t know why. I’ll change it just cause it doesn’t look like we’re going there and I’m not building the case.
Sloonei is probably town but my only scum experience is on a game where he replaced out so I might be biased into thinking he’s just opposite me. someone noticed that I thought Nutella was also probably town. LC just voted me but I tend to want to sort out LC and Jack since I’ve played with them the most. Though I don’t currently get vibes off Jack which could be a bad sign but could also be the fact that I’ve been around like zero. I’m back and forth on Boo, some posts that could go both ways. Colin exists; I tend to think for the players I’m less familiar with and don’t interact with that it’s a bad sign if I notice them but don’t have feelings one way or another. I’ll maybe read that ISO if I have time in an hour or so. That’s all of the players that I know are in the game.
Helpful? Please react, give me posts to read, just @ me so I can feel useful.
The last time I did this I got attacked for randomly leaving players out and I was like “I literally wasn’t cognizant of their existence”.

"Rej is scum if Drago says so" this hits my feelings deep and is so unfun to listen to
his DDL vibes read did say nothing, nothing new, was basically a fluff
after the above post TSP became indeed scummier to me

also let me revisit boo

didnt knew defenses aren't welcome here

also people can never read me lmao

ayayyy

First the ISO to my voters:

DDL: Has a misinterpretation of things against me. Doesn't like me for reasons. Tho I agree with him on the points against boo. Boo voted Drago off with uss and then he tried to sell us a Zemmi lynch possibility. His vote on boo was well placed, seems town.
Oh and yes [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] I am a noob, what attracts me in mafia are mechanics and setups and roles, I just admire the mindgaming in the DPs and I can't reach that level yet.

Speedchuck: Also went for Creature like DDL early DP1, often civillian behaviour to clear out a person's alignment or stance. Can't find scummy posts in his ISO. Also what does he have against weasleness? Weasles are cute animals. I want one as pet dafuck


Jack: Normal entrance, didn't went for creature, sheeped a vote on me which I rly don't like, until I was thematized more. Gave fuel to my wagon basically which I don't apreciate. Between the posts you can often find WIFOM... #422 I didn't like the "blah blah statement"
I see a dimension where jack and boo interactions could be W/V or W/W interactions. Deserves its own reanalysis.
#1007 lmao, is this throw off something a civ would say? and if yes why? [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]
less townlean on Jack, but I don't think scum would recklessly jump on my wagon at this point?

TSP: Interesting ISO, he likes using the term W/W and this implies that he is explicitly scumhunting and he is flexible about it. Could be to create chaos or to find early leaking scum. Slightly more civ lean in the entrance. Suspecting Sloonei, then moving votes from nutella to me, + lecturing boo, since then his votes didnt change. Interesting that he did not interact with the Dom and Dragomir wagons. Were they civ caused autorunner?
50/50 on TSP depending on his bigger sheme.

Sloonei: Targets DDL, a justified target to inquisition, flips later to Boo. alot of meta talks in their posts which I cant dissect. Questioning both wagons alot is giving Sloo civ points. #653 the "shrug vote post" was kinda cute and innocent. Another townlean.
#683 [mention]Sloonei[/mention] I think we played together before? or did you host for me? there was something before that is not accurate...
and I missed answering your question, I answered because I wanted to speed up forcing an interaction, since I am mre like a peek a boo player. lmao
And yes me and Drago are compatible as scum partners, we won games together, one or two no remembering.
Sloonei asks justified questions further on, I know zero about their meta at that point, feels like dissecting a complete stranger and it's interesting.
Sloo vs nut? deserves its own post.

I am tired as fuck I will place votes now
one will be [mention]boo[/mention] the other will be Jack, I am ready to move my votes to TSP for the sake of seeing where it leads with my reeks or nutella because there is also something going on.

Will keep other ISOs for tomorrow.

Good Night
[VOTE: boo] aubergine
[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

I will deliver a multilayered defense and this will be my first part of it.
First of all I am aware that I am getting lynched for odds again, for this I again want to explain why I had my vote on Drago without rly creating a mislynch, as creating a mislynch in anyway on that wagon is NAI.

Since Drago voted me and whatever negative feeling it caused in me, I wanted to go after it and dig for it.
Just look at Drago's ISO and then look at post #568 , whatever I stated about Drago was true and in the end he didn't play like a civ, sorry to say that.
I didn't change my vote for the sake of not creating a wonky case on someone.

So while skimming and paying attention on stuff related to me I saw argumentation like "he was voted by Drago and last time Drago did it Rej was scum". Bullshit, since neither Drago's posts nor his attitude inclined anything about him having leads to me. It was clearly investigation through FoSing and interaction and due to odds I am a comfortable target.

I think most people voting me are concerned townies due to misinterpretation and given odds. If I get lynched then I am fine with it, but at this point I won't give up even if I try to convince each of my voters individually.

This just the first layer of my defense. And yes I will hand out reads while doing so because I don't want to fall back in the game so be patient with me, the DP is still 48 hrs I guess.

just caught up give me some time to take stances

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:05 am

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:39 am Wtf...daychat during night. So meh.

You'e not obligated to post. At least 95% of the games I have played over my long Mafia career have not closed the thread at night.

I see now, this is just a relaxing session

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:56 pm Why was Rej even being voted btw?

I asked it myself too.

I think Drago was policylynching me while Speedchuck had an actual case and was interested in its outcome.

Wtf...daychat during night. So meh.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:24 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:22 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:42 pm Wait other people are sus of Dunya too?

Cool beans hop onto this gray train and let's ride it to kill station.

At this point no

Nice ketchup

Right past midnight, I have to sleep now

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:05 pm If not a Rej lynch, then how aboutMac or Dunya?

I feel like all you do is giving names and using it in coherence with lynches, omgus and wifom

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:42 pm Wait other people are sus of Dunya too?

Cool beans hop onto this gray train and let's ride it to kill station.

At this point no

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:24 am

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:44 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:32 am Well in that case, there's not really much for me to do. Could explain my read on Rej or Mac maybe. But...nah.

wow you really give zero fucks this game, you must be a civ, you would never fuck up your mafia brethern like that? playing this jaded?

did anything else in this DP caught your attention? I haven't seen many reads about Mac. He just seems to carry some energy with him, energy I haven't seen in much of his D0/D1 plays.

Is the first half of this post a sarcasm? Because it seems like one to me.

tbh I am 50/50, it's true that Dragos overall behaviour in mafia changed, from game to game he gives less a fuck, that is reasonable if you busy yourself with other things, but still a mafia drago wouldn't make himself such an easy target I feel, tho town drago tends to do help town in any kind of form

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:32 am Well in that case, there's not really much for me to do. Could explain my read on Rej or Mac maybe. But...nah.

wow you really give zero fucks this game, you must be a civ, you would never fuck up your mafia brethern like that? playing this jaded?

did anything else in this DP caught your attention? I haven't seen many reads about Mac. He just seems to carry some energy with him, energy I haven't seen in much of his D0/D1 plays.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:53 am @Rej
If not DDL, then who?

Morning. I admit that my vote on DDL isn't my best one or my most justified one but right now I am also concerned about Dragomir sheeping his vote on me. All he said was basically that he didnt like some posts of me which is really superficial. His vote on me basically was even more baseless than my vote on DDL.

@Dragomir your defense?

Moving my vote to Drago, DDL elaborated on his gutfeel, even if the reads were a pull off, I still felt threatened as civillian which doesnt happen often.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine


The third vote on my wagon came out of nothing, I felt pressured but I feel still fine. Seems people just generally want me to do something yare yare.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:45 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:39 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:37 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:35 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:23 pm Something about Rej made me feel suspicious but I can't put my finger on it.

Why do people trust Rej?

Seems you had your hunches on me, but you didn't dig in further, how come?

Hunches are hunches, it's hard to rationalize them in a way that doesn't involve writing stupid things.

So you see yourself in a possibility of writing "stupid things"? Like a slip?

If you do not think you are likely to say stupid things, you are obviously a newbie.

Time for OMGUS baby

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:25 pm Ok here it goes. It was this post sequence.

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:51 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:08 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:53 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:21 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:57 pm Considering 17 players usually means 4 mafia in a town v mafia singleball but also considering this site is weird, I'd say 3 mafia with chances of a handful of third parties

I could see that, I don't recall ever playing a Nova game though which does make it a bit more murky.

I'd say 3-4 mafia and two third parties probably with survivorish roles, I don't think the game could support a SK given how small it is and there being role reveals. It's also possible one of the third parties is a mechanism against role claiming, if they're not I'd be wary of the mafia having a role that could punish a player for revealing info/claiming.

the way you imply he third parties being survivorish is worrying me
I note it down

It's an obvious assumption to make given the player pool.

1.5 years mafia experience, and I havent ever seen someone comming D0 implying that third parties might be survivorish. Lmao, this is scummy af and I dont know how else to judge this random wild assumption.

I just think that you could be harmful (possible third) who tries to downplay the scum/thirds in general in this game.

Thats why I said noteworthy.

Case on Sig based on him thinking there is a survivor in the setup is BS.

Granted he said "worrying" which does not necessarily mean an actual suspicion.

But the fact I can't know for sure whether this is an actual suspicion is also "worrying".

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:57 am I just came here and D0 ended with nothing.
It is okay I feel we have enough to force interactions and opinions.

Remember when I doubted Creature for his pessimism? This guy is parroting Creature's pessimism.

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:59 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:27 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:04 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:14 pm Lol creature is town

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Eh?

Dom probably suspects you of basing your town gutread on Creature on TMI. (My first guess).

This attempt of interpreting why Dom voted for someone else strikes me as a tentative bandwagoning on the person Dom voted for.

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:59 am I also give Creature a townread, but he set his vote and he was quite engageful. Tho my read on him bases on post-voting.

Why did you give him a towncard?

I don't understand why his opinion on Creature seems to flip around three times in the same post and I don't like it.

I am noting this down. You are just wrong with any flip around, I think I had a consistent stance on Creature and I was just digging.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:37 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:35 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:23 pm Something about Rej made me feel suspicious but I can't put my finger on it.

Why do people trust Rej?

Seems you had your hunches on me, but you didn't dig in further, how come?

Hunches are hunches, it's hard to rationalize them in a way that doesn't involve writing stupid things.

So you see yourself in a possibility of writing "stupid things"? Like a slip?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:04 pm Why are people voting for me lmao I am obvtown. Look at my last scum game it was disgusting. My degree of contribution here should clear me.

I dislike these kind of statements, remember everyone can have up and downs, just because you have seemingly an "up" it doesn't mean automatically that you are town, even if you do things that make you get free civ reads.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:00 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:36 am

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:51 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:08 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:53 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:21 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:57 pm Considering 17 players usually means 4 mafia in a town v mafia singleball but also considering this site is weird, I'd say 3 mafia with chances of a handful of third parties

I could see that, I don't recall ever playing a Nova game though which does make it a bit more murky.

I'd say 3-4 mafia and two third parties probably with survivorish roles, I don't think the game could support a SK given how small it is and there being role reveals. It's also possible one of the third parties is a mechanism against role claiming, if they're not I'd be wary of the mafia having a role that could punish a player for revealing info/claiming.

the way you imply he third parties being survivorish is worrying me
I note it down

It's an obvious assumption to make given the player pool.

1.5 years mafia experience, and I havent ever seen someone comming D0 implying that third parties might be survivorish. Lmao, this is scummy af and I dont know how else to judge this random wild assumption.

I just think that you could be harmful (possible third) who tries to downplay the scum/thirds in general in this game.

Thats why I said noteworthy.

Gonna play the culture card here, I like to try to distinguish third party, no point in hunting survivors SKs you should go after. Same with Cult.

Survivor is a bad role.

It is way too easy to win with, when it loses, it is rarely the fault of the survivor player, optimal survivor play leads to a less interesting game and survivors can easily become kingmakers at endgame, which is against the spirit of the game.

Change my mind.

You can forge a survivor as much as you can, survivors with immunities, survivors with defensive active abilities. X-Target wincon.
and I think it really depends on the setup. they are far away from being bastard like Jesters and they are not in town favour like an unjester.
A survivor can be an unhonest role and I like that.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:23 pm Something about Rej made me feel suspicious but I can't put my finger on it.

Why do people trust Rej?

Seems you had your hunches on me, but you didn't dig in further, how come?

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:23 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:36 am Also rip Mac voting for me, nothing new there. He can't read me worth a damn.

This post strikes town?

how that? could be mad civ reaction, could also be scum acting

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:21 am

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:36 am Also rip Mac voting for me, nothing new there. He can't read me worth a damn.

Straight for that card ay.

Anywho so far Creature and Rej are top town reads. I think Nutella is also town. I'd like to see fellow towns towning a bit harder.

I think we're also looking at wolfjay lol. I know he says he's busy but I can't help but feel if he was town he'd have used the posts he has made for more townie purposes. More FPS to see what happens less "please hold for assistance.

Jack worries me. Speedchuck also.

But Dragomir doing the ol' "hello fellow townies" thing can take some scrutiny for now.

I definitely know that Drago can be stronger in entrances, he is worthy to observe.

What are the town hunches on nutella?

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:03 am Oh man oh man oh man

How painful can boredom be?

Do you have some hunches? Some impressions? For example, from some of my posts? Or others like nut/dom or Mac whom you followed up with voting.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:27 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:04 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:14 pm Lol creature is town

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Eh?

Dom probably suspects you of basing your town gutread on Creature on TMI. (My first guess).
I also give Creature a townread, but he set his vote and he was quite engageful. Tho my read on him bases on post-voting.

Why did you give him a towncard?

I just came here and D0 ended with nothing.
It is okay I feel we have enough to force interactions and opinions.

I just also wanna mention that I start hosting my first game on another forum soon and if I skip a big part of the DP due to overload, then I am sorry in advance. I still wanna play this one.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:08 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:53 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:21 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:57 pm Considering 17 players usually means 4 mafia in a town v mafia singleball but also considering this site is weird, I'd say 3 mafia with chances of a handful of third parties

I could see that, I don't recall ever playing a Nova game though which does make it a bit more murky.

I'd say 3-4 mafia and two third parties probably with survivorish roles, I don't think the game could support a SK given how small it is and there being role reveals. It's also possible one of the third parties is a mechanism against role claiming, if they're not I'd be wary of the mafia having a role that could punish a player for revealing info/claiming.

the way you imply he third parties being survivorish is worrying me
I note it down

It's an obvious assumption to make given the player pool.

1.5 years mafia experience, and I havent ever seen someone comming D0 implying that third parties might be survivorish. Lmao, this is scummy af and I dont know how else to judge this random wild assumption.

I just think that you could be harmful (possible third) who tries to downplay the scum/thirds in general in this game.

Thats why I said noteworthy.

the third parties*

sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:21 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:57 pm Considering 17 players usually means 4 mafia in a town v mafia singleball but also considering this site is weird, I'd say 3 mafia with chances of a handful of third parties

I could see that, I don't recall ever playing a Nova game though which does make it a bit more murky.

I'd say 3-4 mafia and two third parties probably with survivorish roles, I don't think the game could support a SK given how small it is and there being role reveals. It's also possible one of the third parties is a mechanism against role claiming, if they're not I'd be wary of the mafia having a role that could punish a player for revealing info/claiming.

the way you imply he third parties being survivorish is worrying me
I note it down

Zemmi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:23 am Never watched it but I just realized we can't claim any kind of information in this game ;-; My least favorite rule.

+ its closed rolemadness as it seems