The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:55 pm On that note, everybody sign up for Jack Attack Mafia, coming soon to a theater near you.

we can't go indoor in a theater, anti corona laws forbid this

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:44 pm We knew juliets was the monitor because we tried to kill her and it failed.

[mention]juliets[/mention] I was talking about no night kills and now the reason is obvious for one night
I am sorry I suspected you, but until the end I noticed a thing that will help me to understand your town play better <3

Awesome game [mention]Long Con[/mention] and [mention]Black Rock[/mention] it adeed each day a plus to my WIM, as you can notice I was more active after the first few days.

congrats @theMasterteam i think I died because I found 3 villagers in Tony, Tranq and Juliets and even if I was wrong on Tranq I would suspect Epi the most and eventually talk about the difference in Ted's play i became aware a little too late in the night I was killed.
Speed was already cleared by Jay and because he wouldn't openly scumside with the other team that read were a correct and honest one.

@Jay had an awesome scum play and by always mislynching villagers he practically helped the Master team to win. Your long effort made me think you are villager but in direct interaction you failed to show towniness

It was a memorable game @everyone I am glad I was part in it thanks for the invite ^_^

Time for Sloonei and Mac's Iso, I think Jay's posts may be useful but I am not so sure about it.

Though I need a break, playing at night is tiresome.

Updating

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:09 am Opining tomorrow. Data now:

Day 1 :
1 Dizzy - Tony
1 Jack - Spityo
1 JJJ - Radishes
6 Radishes - JJJ, Ted, Svs, Michelle, Sloonei, Dizzy
1 Nanook01 - Sig
6 Nutella01 - Nanook01, Turnip, Sabie, Jack, Mac, Dom
2 Speed - Epi, Nutella01

Day 2

1 GMan - Ted
7 Mac - Speed, Sig, Jack, Dom, Sabie, Sprityo, Nanook02
9 Radishes - Tony, JJJ, Svs, Sloonei, Epi, Juliets, Mac, Colin, Turnip
2 Sloonei - Dizzy, GMan
3 Turnip - Michelle, Tranq, Radishes

Day 3

2 Jack - Turnip, Mac
10 Mac - Ted, Tony, GMan, Jack, Michelle, Nanook, Sig, Sprityo, Epi, Tranq
8 Sig - Colin, Svs, Sloonei, Dom, Speed, Nutella02, JJJ, Juliets

Day 4 main poll

3 Nanook02 - Epi, Sprityo, TurnipHead
5 Sprityo - Dom, Colin, Ted, Nanook02, Jack

Day 4 poll in a dream level

1 Juliets - Michelle
3 Michelle - Speed, Sloonei, JJJ
2 Speed - GMan, Juliets

Day 4 Limbo Poll
???? (Sig, Tranq, Tony)

Day 5

4 JJJ - Tranq, Colin, Dom, Epi
1 Nanook02 - Sig
10 Sig - Ted, Speed, Nanook02, TurnipHead, Sloonei, Juliets, Michelle, JJJ, Jack, TSP

Day 6

8 Colin - Dom, Michelle, Tranq, Juliets, Jack, Epi, JJJ, Speed
4 Speed - GMan, TSP, TurnipHead, Colin
1 Ted - Sloonei

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:56 pm I think we might need the masters to hit Akechi, since apparently Akechi can win.

Akechi might inherit the AM kill. That could be good.

Long Con was asked if a team will inherit the nights kills of the other team and he said yes. I don't remember a vague exprimation.
Actually the post itself it's better:

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:05 am
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:45 pm
Spoiler: show
Long Con Black Rock
Two things
When a mafia team is eliminated, does the remaining team then kill every night, or still just every other night?
Spoiler: show
And re: the poll, Radish is on it and Colin is not.

Spoiler: show
Thanks, fixed. Tony is currently voting for Colin. :o

If a team gets eliminated, the other team kills every night.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:59 am Sloonei on TonyStarkPrime

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Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:03 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:47 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:13 pm Entitled millennials don't think the rules apply to them. Typical.
Someone will tell me if there’s something in the rules I need to know
You are the champion of not reading the rules.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:35 pm I remember squinting my eyes at Tony earlier. Let's look into that.

sorry tony

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:43 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:47 am I’ll assume that person is scum and lynch them
I think it was this post that gave me the ole squinty eyeballs. I recall Tony making similar joke-posts early on in both Fallout and the Polka Heist, when he was bad. I took a look at the only town game I remember playing with him (Australian Murder Mystery) and he still had a few joke posts early on, but he got down to business pretty quickly. He's more on-topic after this post, but it's the "[Joke about arbitrary suspicion]" brand of post that got my attention.

This is not something that would determine my vote.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:32 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:30 pm sig - S~V~S - Dys - juliets - Sloonei - TSP

maybe in that exact order
Shucks. Tell me about myself, dyslexicon, and tony.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:50 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:40 pm The reason you're on the lower end is because I remember your early start that was aesthetically pleasing. I saw you had good , well-timed questions but I am sort of reluctant to town read you fully because, other than that, I honestly don't remember anything else you've done. I just remember you being there and kind of skimming your posts. I'm wanting to see some sort of aggressive push from you or something.

Dys I had tons of mindmelds with. At first I thought the way they came in the thread saying "Watch me do nothing this game, what are you gonna do about it" kind of attitude and then giving that read on Michelle felt sort of contradictory, emotionally speaking. As in, you imply you don't give a crap, but you post a shallow read on Michelle, like you felt forced to do it. I also thought it was too early of a town read, even for Michelle, which I also have tons of meta with. Otherwise, their recent content has been good and we mindmelded ever since that initial scum lean.

TSP's a read that's like broadly applied to my mental map of how town!lurkers approach a game as opposed to scum!lurkers. There's no scum agenda behind his posting, and with scum lurkers, the usual mentality is "ah I gotta post something good to make up for my absence" and that usually turns into awkward reads on people and shit. The reason he's that low is because I didn't like his early Jay read joke thing which read as awkward and I want to look for some form of thought process that I can easily follow through and get rid of this paranoia for his slot. It's this low because it's a general approach to reading lurkers and I need some more context to be more confident in it.
Regarding myself, I’ve definitely dropped below my desired level of play. I’ve had an annoying fever the last few days and reading this thread has literally been painful. I’m about 75% better now.

Your explanation for why you town read dizzy features a lot of reasons not to town read dizzy. Why?

I appreciate your perspective on Tony.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:54 am I picked those three names because A) I like it when people talk about me, B) Dyslexicon has been hard for me to pin down, and C) I was surprised to see Tony on the list.

I don't object to Tony's response about me. We butted heads very early on in this game, as well as in our one previous game together. It makes sense that he'd notice me and form a read on me ahead of other names.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:08 pm Tony moved from juliets to TH. Lame. TonyStarkPrime why?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:15 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:08 pm Tony moved from juliets to TH. Lame. @TonyStarkPrime why?
No one was voting for Juliets.
Yes I know, your first vote was lamer than the second, but they're both still lame. Why TH out of all the options on the board right now?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:42 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:35 am Sloonei what do you think about Mac’s view of Jack//Radishes?
Idk, I haven’t looked into the specifics of it. I don’t care for doing teammate analysis before anyone has flipped, so I tend not to give much weight to theories like that pre-flip. I’ve also been inclined to town read jack for most of the game. In a vacuum I can see why he’d look like a viable Radish partner, but there wasn’t much one way or the other in the analysis I just did and I’ve yet to look at it from Jack’s end. I doubt I’ll get to that tonight, and I’ll be out of pocket all day tomorrow. If I make it to Day 3 I’m sure I’ll end up diving into that pool.

Why? What do you think of it?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:41 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:35 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:33 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:32 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:25 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:18 am I would have to be super, super wrong about Jack for him to be bad.
Ditto. I’m open to the possibility, and I hope to ISO him myself soon, but I can’t bring myself to shake off my town read.
this gives me tinglies
tell me about your tinglies, tony
I was on board to agree with you and Dom about it — I think Mac was going off little. But the weird mind meld in specifically this post seems to be hedging in a way that I don’t like.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:42 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:41 am I’m going to float the idea that this game is chaotic because there are two scum teams trying to outdo each other. Anyone want to ask me why this is important?
Why is this important?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:52 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:45 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:42 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:41 am I’m going to float the idea that this game is chaotic because there are two scum teams trying to outdo each other. Anyone want to ask me why this is important?
Why is this important?
Because it means that — especially for high capacity players, of which everyone in this game is one, there is no incentive to slack off as there can be in a normal mafia game. Thus, our scum will be found not in those who are unusually quiet but rather those who are unusually loud.
I’m not sure I follow.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:06 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:56 am I think pursuing a “who is teammates with Radish” line is just bad strategically. It’s what the other team wants to happen. Maybe it’s like

Town: 50
Master: 25
Anti-Monitor-25

on average and we change it to

Town: 60
Master: 40

by focusing on one faction, but I think friendly fire works to our advantage.

I’m more interested in who is scum without Radish.
This is a good point to keep in mind, but at the same time my mindset is always to try to lynch the player who I think is most likely to flip scum, and we now have a clearer path to hunt Radishes team. But focusing exclusively on that for several days is a big advantage to the other team.

The case against Mac still stands and he is almost definitely not on Radishes' team.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:06 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:53 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:52 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:45 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:42 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:41 am I’m going to float the idea that this game is chaotic because there are two scum teams trying to outdo each other. Anyone want to ask me why this is important?
Why is this important?
Because it means that — especially for high capacity players, of which everyone in this game is one, there is no incentive to slack off as there can be in a normal mafia game. Thus, our scum will be found not in those who are unusually quiet but rather those who are unusually loud.
I’m not sure I follow.
Basically, the “they look like they’re hunting” argument falls apart.
I definitely do not follow.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:26 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:25 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:23 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:11 pm Ted, Jack, and Colin are the names to look into if we’re right about sig. Dom is a fringe candidate too, and I saw someone float Tranq as well. I have no reason to object to that.
This for if Sig is scum?
Yes
What happened to mac
That’s what I’m wondering
These are the candidates to be the last remaining member of the sig/sabie/radishes team. Mac is not on that team.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:11 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:02 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:39 pm Why are we still talking about this instead of sig’s handling of radishes/sabie?
What about the droid attack on the Wookie(e)s?
Are you bad again?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:46 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:45 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:21 pm Okay but what about his treatment of Radishes?
G-Man does worse
Hard no. And anyway, there are two members of this team remaining.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:05 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:00 am So Sloonei-- I ask you--

sig is off the table.

Who is bad? Why?
Well I voted for Michelle in our pointless thread yesterday. It was a tinfoil that would not be worth a vote under normal circumstances, but which still merits suspicious. The theory had her as the anti-monitor.

After that I intend to finish looking at Mac's interactions with folks later in the phase. I should have definitive reads then. The previous phase was a big disruption in my flow. Before that happened, Colin and Tony were names that I wanted to explore in relation to Mac.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:49 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:35 am Who is on Mac’s team?
Everybody. One or two names only. No reasoning allowed. We all have generally good instincts here, who’s given you bad vibes?
Colin and you.

caveat that i haven't been in this thread for 48 hours and plan to do interactive shit later.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:50 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:49 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:43 am This is my Michelle theory, for those who were not in our thread yesterday:

When the day began, Michelle had compiled a long chain of posts from speedchuck from this thread (the one we are all currently posting in) which she used to push a suspicion against The Chuck (and she would later walk back a fair amount of this case in a way that might have been dishonest, but that's not my main issue).

Speedchuck was one of just five people that Michelle shared that thread with. He also had apparently been singled out as a suspect by her coming into that day. This seemed either convenient or coincidental to me.

Separately, I had a theory that the events of yesterday were triggered by sig, as his role (The Architect) is derived from Inception Mafia, it contains secrets, and he was almost a sure bet to be lynched that coming day, so there would be no better time for him to trigger the hypothetical Inception event in his role card. IF this is the case (and that is an enormous if), then there are two people who would have known that the thread split was coming: sig and sig's partner. In the original Inception Mafia game (which Jay and I co-hosted), the mafia team was allowed limited control over which players submerged onto each dream level.

If sig's partner was preparing to submerge into a lower dream level, they would likely want to take a player with them who they could use as a scapegoat for suspicion, or someone who is unlikely to cast suspicion on them in particular. speedchuck could conceivably be a viable candidate for both of those things. So the theory is this: Michelle, as sig's partner/the anti-monitor, was aware that she was going to submerge into a smaller thread, and brought speedchuck with her, having pre-planned an attack against him for that day.

There are holes in this theory that I acknowledge: given that there was only one lynch yesterday (the top level/player with the most votes across all three levels) there should not have been much urgency for Michelle to need a scapegoat like this; it's also not at all impossible that Michelle suspected speedchuck and wanted to ISO him, and it was purely coincidental that they ended up in the same thread together. But the fact that Michelle had singularly prepared to launch an investigation against speedchuck yesterday (I asked her if she had compiled posts on anybody else and she said no) and then ended up in the same small group as him stood out to me as a remarkable coincidence.
this is a bad theory but I see where it’s coming from
It was a slow day.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:53 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:50 am so the idea was put Speed and Michelle in Div 2 when Speed is already a popular lynch option and then hope that no one emerges from Div 1?
At the time I didn't know what the lynch mechanics looked like. Maybe she would have wanted a player to scapegoat down there just to be on the safe side. Then again, if Michelle is the anti-monitor and has a -2 vote on her, then the chances of her getting lynched in a 6 person thread are pretty slim to begin with.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:59 am I would also like to add, though, that sig being in a 3-person thread with you (tony) and Tranq strengthens my belief that he triggered the thread split. If I was sig and I wanted a chance to survive a 3-person lylo/limbo phase (which was the mission in the original game) and I had control over one of the players that I brought with me, I'd choose Tranq 10 times out of 10 (meaning no offense. He's just been the lightest contributor and would be the most likely to simply no-show).

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:16 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:15 am I thought it was a train
the first extraction scene at the beginning of the movie takes place on a train, if i remember correctly.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:43 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:31 pm alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.
Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes
What evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?
Mac said so. He has no reason to lie. High compatibility when most of the field has been cleared.
The confirmed scum player has no reason to lie?

I’m interested in the high compatibility bit. Hopefully I’ll look into it myself one of these days.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:31 pm I'm about to finish gawking at the big D, but before I do I have a new question to ask:

Tranq
TonyStarkPrime
sig, yes even you sig.

What can you tell us about your thread yesterday? How did everyone behave down there? Was there anything unusual or noteworthy?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:16 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:31 pm I'm about to finish gawking at the big D, but before I do I have a new question to ask:

@Tranq
@TonyStarkPrime
@sig, yes even you sig.

What can you tell us about your thread yesterday? How did everyone behave down there? Was there anything unusual or noteworthy?
I have the whole thing copied, but since we still have access to it it wouldn’t be moral to share. Tranq posted more than he’s posted in this thread, I think. Sig says he let a few clues out, but I think it’s kinda broad and still obviously WIFOMy. It was pretty slow. One note: Sig intend(s/ed) to stay alive. His teammate was voting for Mac. We tried to lynch Long Con, I figured out Quin was scum, that’s about it.
Tell me about tranq.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:28 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:27 pm I’m willing to bet that Nanook was not hit directly by a scum kill from the AM, so we might be able to just clear this out
That is my assumption as well. But I'm not sure what we're clearing out here.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:07 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:41 am So I have reached the conclusion that someone must be scum. I am going to proceed by thinking of this game as one with one scum team and an SK. There’s no reason to continue to think about this as multiball unless someone seriously wants to track down the anti monitor. Which is unnecessary because it looks like we missed our revive.
I’m confused by the second half of this post. Why does the lack of revival have anything to do with the anti-monitor?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:13 pm Dom, Tony, and Epi are the names I'm least confident in after you (if we're accepting TH's claim about targeting Michelle). She only mentioned those three in a list of town reads when I specifically asked her for them.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:45 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:41 pm I've read everything but Sloonei's latest novel. I am current other than that.
I really don’t expect everyone to read all that nonsense. The rainbow list at the end tells you what’s essential.
Sloonei, could you very honestly do a slight addendum where you analyze Sabie’s views on you?
Nope. Be my guest if you’d like to do it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:28 pm Tony was in limbo with sig.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:12 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:03 pm so I read the sloonei case and I still can't understand why he's making the leap that I'm scum and not just town, the evidence is circumstantial at best. Who's scum other than me sloonei?
Observe the rainbow. Two of the bottom names were wrong, so it is likely flawed somewhere. But you and speedchuck remain among the oranges. Epi and Tranq were difficult to place. I would not be totally shocked if one of the light greens was also bad. I think Tony would be my first choice among them, but that's based largely on my general skepticism toward him as a player.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:41 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:38 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:32 pm If everyone has suspected speedchuck forever for every position why has he not been lynched yet?

This is a real question.
Yesterday was the first day he was really mentioned as a serious candidate in a thread that included the entire active roster.
sure. And JJJ pushed him and voted for Colin anyways. We talked more about Speed than Colin but Colin ended up lynched.
What's the best reason you can think of to town read speedchuck?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:50 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:47 pm This is only even a contest because Jay has teammates.

If GMan has teammates, they’re bussing. Yet there are five votes for town Jay?

No way that’s happening. Just look at the vote count and tell me Jay can even be town here.
All it takes is one or two vocal civilians promoting a case and the wolves can start circling.
Who are the wolves on Jay’s wagon?
From most to least suspicious:
Speedchuck
Epi
Tranq
Tony
You

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:46 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:45 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:43 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:23 pm So g-man is going to vote for JJJ last second
Oh no, I’m staying put. I don’t want to tarnish all the beautiful content that my actions initiated for you to analyze after I’m gone.
take 5 bomb
or he's the anti-monitor

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:53 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:52 pm I don't know if we have enough people present to mount a new wagon
This isn't a new wagon. This is a backup in case G-man freezes the poll on us.

Town read on tony right now, I think.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:54 pm Right now no matter what g man’s role is his best strat is to triple pull those with votes. If he’s voting for himself it’s probably to protect JJJ.
resulting in no lynch?

Orange in Radishes review

Red in Mac review / But then up to light green in part 3

Yellow in sabie review

~~~

And Sloonei meanders to nowhere. Sloonei's read on Tony is some intermittent radio signal fuzz that on occasion clears up but is then lost again quickly thereafter. He seemed to have serious suspicions of Tony -- he called him one of the best candidates to be teamed with Mac (before reneging on that in the very next novel post), and he went nowhere at all with that suspicion. He viewed Tony as compatible with Radishes, and he did nothing with that either.

Got one.

Good! sleep time ^^

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:32 pm My gravestone will be marked by a heroic statue. He gave his life for the greater good. He gave himself to cruel death so that we may prosper. Bless JaggedJimmyJay.

God bless you and keep you away from coronavirus ^^

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:27 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:19 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:16 pm If I am allowed to post a link to an outside forum I will post a recent town Ted game.
This has never been an issue before. Long Con
That's fine.
This is the Iso of Ted in that game, he played in the next 2 too and you can check how he posted. Of course the order is inversed, the first post is from the end of the game; I was present too in the game and you can see my posting style as well if you Iso me (right up corner, search in this thread, posts by user).
https://animebase.me/search/261051/

btw this is my homesite, I am a manga lover and that is shown by my avatar too

my sleep went away.. i will stay until the end of day

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:19 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:16 pm If I am allowed to post a link to an outside forum I will post a recent town Ted game.
This has never been an issue before. Long Con
That's fine.

This is the Iso of Ted in that game, he played in the next 2 too and you can check how he posted. Of course the order is inversed, the first post is from the end of the game; I was present too in the game and you can see my posting style as well if you Iso me (right up corner, search in this thread, posts by user).
https://animebase.me/search/261051/

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:13 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:12 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:09 pm Let's lynch ted anyway. I'm drunk. Let's go.
play sober -_-

Spoiler: show
Uh, no Peg.

imagine I don't get it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:17 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:59 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:45 pm Epi, is Ted a baddie?
I'd lynch him.
Closest thing to an Epi read on ted in the last four phases

that is not a read, is a killing intent

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:11 pm Y'all are going to have to make a decision. Michelle, what's your take? juliets, what's your take? Let's go.

I can't face Jack endgame if I don't follow his read he spent more than a day on. If he had evidence, this is much more important to check.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:09 pm Let's lynch ted anyway. I'm drunk. Let's go.

play sober -_-

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:02 pm @juliets I think you're wrong on at least one of Epi/Tranq, and both would be of zero surprise to me.
I know. I'm trying to think about it but I'm falling asleep. I can't decide whether Epi's apathy is AI or not. I don't remember him being this disinterested in a game.

i saw him. But if its not AI ...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:01 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:59 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:56 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:52 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:51 pm Stop getting paranoid. I'm a civilian.
then post your thoughts on the game
Lynch JJJ and ted.
explain like i am idiot why for both. Think at the fact I am fighting a sleepy state of mind who makes me slow thinker. Thanks
I'll help you. Put your vote on JJJ today and then put your vote on ted tomorrow.

I'm just being funny.

i am at one second to go mad and you think you are funny ...

Reasons for Ted pls I heard a ton if reasons for Jay.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:59 pm I'm a fucking civilian you dick.

you could start the day with this

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:56 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:52 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:51 pm Stop getting paranoid. I'm a civilian.
then post your thoughts on the game
Lynch JJJ and ted.

explain like i am idiot why for both. Think at the fact I am fighting a sleepy state of mind who makes me slow thinker. Thanks

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:51 pm Stop getting paranoid. I'm a civilian.

then post your thoughts on the game

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:49 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:36 pm The only bored and never understanding players were until now only mafia aligned from my Pov.

How come Epi is villager with these posts?
Lynch me and found out.

what i will find out?

i woke up and I couldn't sleep after I catched up. But ny eyes are closing now :/.

I wish to be sure about the lynch. Epi's play gives me goosebumbs

Epi left the battlefield...

less than one hour until Eod but I am so tired.. idk if i can stay much .. going to sleep soon.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:35 pm *Absorbing a kill from maybe N3?

Sounds logic. Then, he was wrong with the shot :/

The only bored and never understanding players were until now only mafia aligned from my Pov.

How come Epi is villager with these posts?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:28 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:26 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:24 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:15 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:12 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:12 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:08 pm

I don't know that I need to prove you wrong? Sorry. I'm still not sure what you're asking.
nvm. we don't mindmeld no matter what.

Answer pls at my NKs question
What is your "NKs question?"
I asked you few posts above. Why do you have to be like this?
Be like what? I do not understand your question. I really do not.
She wants to know if you can think of any explanation for the double kills on night 4 and night 7 (we already know what happened night 2).
No, I don't have anything to say about those. Things have been mostly boring on my end.

why are you bored? You don't play active. Why is this?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:26 pm Michelle, I'm not trying to obstruct things. I really don't know what you're asking me.

If anyone else does, please chime in.

i need everyone's oppinion about the double night kills. Looks like only Juliets understood this.
Starting from my coloured post, see the nights without clear NK reasons.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:53 am The ghost of Macdougall haunts this place.

Nanook is the anti monitor. Sprityo is the cop. My team is gonna win. Sorry about being a prick Dom.

Guys you lynched Sprityo after that?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:12 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:12 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:08 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:01 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:00 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:15 am Actually there’s probably two mafia in here there aren’t THAT many players left

I don't know what this is referring to.
d4 quotes. nothing more. ideas townies had in the game. Not that they are true, but somehow Nanook died night killed and his ideas may be important.
Proove me wrong.
I don't know that I need to prove you wrong? Sorry. I'm still not sure what you're asking.
nvm. we don't mindmeld no matter what.

Answer pls at my NKs question
What is your "NKs question?"

I asked you few posts above. Why do you have to be like this?

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:09 pm @Michelle the second double kill that occurred on Night 4 could have also been Turnip Head using his vig power that went with his role, Jack of All Trades. If it was him he mistakenly killed a civ.

yes. may be. And then, who was suspected by TH?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:08 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:04 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:01 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:00 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:15 am Actually there’s probably two mafia in here there aren’t THAT many players left

I don't know what this is referring to.
d4 quotes. nothing more. ideas townies had in the game. Not that they are true, but somehow Nanook died night killed and his ideas may be important.
Proove me wrong.
I don't know that I need to prove you wrong? Sorry. I'm still not sure what you're asking.

nvm. we don't mindmeld no matter what.

Answer pls at my NKs question

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:01 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:00 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:15 am Actually there’s probably two mafia in here there aren’t THAT many players left

I don't know what this is referring to.

d4 quotes. nothing more. ideas townies had in the game. Not that they are true, but somehow Nanook died night killed and his ideas may be important.
Proove me wrong.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:59 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:56 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:47 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:42 pm I thought juliets was a civilian and could do no wrong.
Epi what do you think about the night where we had 2 town kills? What could cause it?
Which night was that? I'm not keeping up.
look at this post. And you didn't read the thread :/
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 58#p594158
I read the thread. I ignore your colored things. It's true.

Thanks for appreciation. I feel special.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:15 am Actually there’s probably two mafia in here there aren’t THAT many players left

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:54 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:50 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:12 am Yeah I’ve been slacking this game

But it’s been on purpose I assure you

If anything I would be fine with taking the L for today, since we as a town have been doing really good.

Also let’s not forget the mechanics of inception mafia today, there’s at least one mafia for each level if it’s staying true to the original

Yeah Michelle I thought this too. Epi has argued that this may not be true and the main level could have been all civs but I still think there was at least one on each level. That would mean either Epi or ted was bad. I chose ted but obviously need to take into consideration what you are saying about ted. I'm not convinced though that Epi is bad.

Epi not reading the thread as villager I already saw. BUT. idk :/ looks bad.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:47 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:42 pm I thought juliets was a civilian and could do no wrong.
Epi what do you think about the night where we had 2 town kills? What could cause it?
Which night was that? I'm not keeping up.

look at this post. And you didn't read the thread :/
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 58#p594158

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:12 am Yeah I’ve been slacking this game

But it’s been on purpose I assure you

If anything I would be fine with taking the L for today, since we as a town have been doing really good.

Also let’s not forget the mechanics of inception mafia today, there’s at least one mafia for each level if it’s staying true to the original

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:42 pm I thought juliets was a civilian and could do no wrong.

Epi what do you think about the night where we had 2 town kills? What could cause it?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:37 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:32 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:21 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:16 pm Folks want to clear this guy all game long based on BTSC when a janitor exists, and we deserve what we get.
Who is "this guy?"
Epignosis
you didn't read my posts. I cleared him based on the way Sloonei talked about him and his presence in the lynch d4 level.
Do you think I am wrong? It's just logic, not mafia science but looks solid.
I can understand why you might like him on the basis of Sloonei's comments. That was my initial take. Consider Epignosis's comments on Sloonei though. I hated that review.

Remind me what you like about his Day 4.

I have to read that day, I was in the dream level and my time to read wasn't so big. Shamefully I know nothing from that day on the main level.
And now is 3:40 am. I may look at it but I can't promise to finish until Eod who is at 5 am for me

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:30 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:16 pm Reading through Jay's post about Ted I had a town Ted vibe from the quoted posts.
Town Ted is often wrong in a sure way and get mislynched players with his conviction.
Idk how are looking his latest scum games because I only saw him villager since his mafia hiatus from autumn. But he was more blendy as scum.
If I am allowed to post a link to an outside forum I will post a recent town Ted game.

@Juliets you said Jack's stuborness about Jay may come from a mechanical evidence. Also Jack TR Tranq. Would it be possible for Jack to have any alignament checks? Is normal for town Jack to be wrong, but would he spend his all day on Jay just because his own read? Wouldn't be healthier for town to have a larger view over the game? Jack's behaviour doesn't fit in a normal towny play.
Michelle thanks for the info about ted. I need to consider what you are saying.

I thought maybe Jack's stubbornness on Jay was because he tracked Jay one night and saw him target someone who died. Jack was able to track someone, watch someone, or protect himself from a NK. He didn't have any alignment checks. I looked at the items to make sure there wasn't an alignment check there and there wasn't. Jack has been known to tunnel as both town and scum - remember he did it to nutella early in the game.

I was on the wrong part of Jack's tunnel as both AIs so I know how this works. But his obsession on Jay was way too big.

The same question for you, do you have any explanation for the double kills in some nights?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:21 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:16 pm Folks want to clear this guy all game long based on BTSC when a janitor exists, and we deserve what we get.
Who is "this guy?"
Epignosis

you didn't read my posts. I cleared him based on the way Sloonei talked about him and his presence in the lynch d4 level.
Do you think I am wrong? It's just logic, not mafia science but looks solid.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:16 pm Folks want to clear this guy all game long based on BTSC when a janitor exists, and we deserve what we get.

The janitor killed only Dizzy. He can be town or 3rd. I "suspect" him as villager.

How do you explain the double deaths from some nights?

Reading through Jay's post about Ted I had a town Ted vibe from the quoted posts.
Town Ted is often wrong in a sure way and get mislynched players with his conviction.
Idk how are looking his latest scum games because I only saw him villager since his mafia hiatus from autumn. But he was more blendy as scum.
If I am allowed to post a link to an outside forum I will post a recent town Ted game.

@Juliets you said Jack's stuborness about Jay may come from a mechanical evidence. Also Jack TR Tranq. Would it be possible for Jack to have any alignament checks? Is normal for town Jack to be wrong, but would he spend his all day on Jay just because his own read? Wouldn't be healthier for town to have a larger view over the game? Jack's behaviour doesn't fit in a normal towny play.

nighty.

if i can i will wake up at Eod

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:50 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:47 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:38 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:10 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:04 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:58 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:02 pm ColinIsCool
Dom
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
Nanook
sprityo
tedxtr
Turnip Head

Those are the players in this thread. They will be the only ones in the poll.
1. Epi or Ted

OR

2. Epi and Ted

OR

3. None of them = level one full of villas and all baddies in dream levels? Can this be?
My opinion is that level one could not have been all civs.
Come on, we have 2 players you know better than me, risk a read please.
Between Epi and ted I see Epi as town, so if there's scum on that level I think it's ted. I don't know both these players better than you - I have never played with ted before.
Agree on Ted, my bad, i should go to sleep because I misread it because I barely see at almost midnight.
sorry for that.

Answer me please at the question of what oppinion had Jack on you when Dom had that post i quoted.
Michelle, Jack had me as scum at that point in the game.

I see. One of his last posts is a TR for you. Dom also said the same. This is important rn no matter my paranoia.
I hope they are right. I feel you like in Inception game, this also helps to see you in a better light.
Speed will cringe about talking about feelings but idrc ^^

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:38 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:10 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:04 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:58 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:02 pm ColinIsCool
Dom
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
Nanook
sprityo
tedxtr
Turnip Head

Those are the players in this thread. They will be the only ones in the poll.
1. Epi or Ted

OR

2. Epi and Ted

OR

3. None of them = level one full of villas and all baddies in dream levels? Can this be?
My opinion is that level one could not have been all civs.
Come on, we have 2 players you know better than me, risk a read please.
Between Epi and ted I see Epi as town, so if there's scum on that level I think it's ted. I don't know both these players better than you - I have never played with ted before.

Agree on Ted, my bad, i should go to sleep because I misread it because I barely see at almost midnight.
sorry for that.

Answer me please at the question of what oppinion had Jack on you when Dom had that post i quoted.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:09 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:05 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:04 am General question for everyone in this game:

If you find juliets suspicious, why do you find juliets suspicious?
Why do you give a shit about this?
I can answer this for Jay. I won't. But I can.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:17 am Jay-- more than anyone-- knows that asking for people to restate their opinions is an excelelnt way to catch a baddie.

Didn't expect the snark from a civ Jay.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:00 pm Jack, I'm fairly sure you're wrong about juliets.

what oppinion had Jack back then?

The posts I quoted I think may be the reason to NK Dom
The suspicion was on Sloonei who was deep wolf and Jay.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:11 am Michelle and Sabie are never getting switched -- you don't BD two teammates.
And TH isn't flipping AM because then he never shoots his teammate. So TH is limited to the Master scum team, and if he tried to shoot Michelle then they aren't on the same team.

I think this post, the way it's explained, shows no TMI.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:47 am Day 1 results
Spoiler: show
You'll notice that Jay, Sloonei, and ted are all on Radishes.

Day 2 Results
Spoiler: show
You'll notice that Jay and Sloonei are both on radishes.
Ted is off wagon.

Day 3 Results
Spoiler: show
Ted votes for Mac
Jay and Sloonei vote for sig.

We do not have Day 4.

...someone wanna tell me wtf Jay is doing analyzing anyone for compatibility with Mac and why Sloonei isn't on his list?

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