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I don't think I'd call not pushing or voting partners unless you have no choice gamebreaking

Like

Theres a legitimate and reasonable argument to be made that not bussing when you're scum is optimal, and afaik mikey doesn't take it to the extreme of refusing to vote a partner even if they're red checked or if it's clearly the optimal line, so its fine imo.

Basically I don't think the bar where mikey is willing to push a partner is nonexistent, its just a lot higher than most of ours. That's fine.

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Also good job mafia team

My RNGed d1 reads had you as three of the top four town so thats a fun fact

I had it in my head that if you or esooa got NKed bo should be reevaluated anyways

But that isn't something you can put in thread at f7 lol

I thought it pointed more to bo imo but I was also spoiled around then so idk

Eh I think the poe approach was fine, probably worth reevaluation fmpov when esooa was nked heading into f5, or that's when I would've gone "something is fucky" amd reconsidered bo at least, but maybe esooa was nked because I was already dead, idk

F3 was not great

But I don't think killing myself and Kyle was all that bad, at least for me I was townie on play but had terrible votes so I get it.

@Sloonei hammer

Oh I can self hammer

Nice

Kill Kyle flip a coin between Alison and esooa if it gets to f3

Hammer me daddy

I've done that lolol

It worked too

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:50 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:49 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:48 pm actually fuck it, you and me, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME let's make an alliance
We don't have the voting power and I'm not even confident who id vote if we did lol
that's where you come in, i'm just the ideas guy

Ok the plan is for you to convince 2-3 people to vote not us, godspeed young man

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:48 pm actually fuck it, you and me, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME let's make an alliance

We don't have the voting power and I'm not even confident who id vote if we did lol

Basically if you take one of us to KILO you have to decide ahead of time that you're just locking them town and ignoring them, having townNanook or townKyle in KILO is a dream for the mafia

So yeah pretty much the choices are to kill through the poe and if the game isn't over solve it at f3, or change the poe

I'm perfectly fine killing through the poe cause while I don't particularly scumread Kyle I also don't really want him in an f3

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:34 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:28 pm My legacy is kill Kyle and if that doesn't end the game its up to you guys to figure it out at f3. Mikey is the only person I would never kill at f3. I'm not solving between Alison Martin and esooa today, see who gets NKed and go from there.

You can hammer me if you want, idc
You keep on saying never Mikey but why?

Cause he doesn't bus like that

It's a meta read and I'm very confident in it, if this is the game he decides to break that meta I'd be very surprised

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:42 pm we get to do the easy part B)

Yep lol

Honestly I think its probably not you either but

Its hard not to clear us from the poe so shrug

I think I've been fairly obvious town but I've also shielded two mafia so I get it

My legacy is kill Kyle and if that doesn't end the game its up to you guys to figure it out at f3. Mikey is the only person I would never kill at f3. I'm not solving between Alison Martin and esooa today, see who gets NKed and go from there.

You can hammer me if you want, idc

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:42 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:37 pm this conversation is painful and unproductive

i would like martin to talk about nanook now
Perhaps we should be having more conversations that isn't just me and Kylemii here?

I was mostly waiting for Nanook to chime in if they were going to.

What do you want me to chime in on

If not kyle, probably Alison

Will evaluate who else potentially makes sense if I'm the choice today but I don't wanna

Mikey should never be considered before f3 lolol

Everyone feels town game is hard

Hopefully the easy version of hard tho

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:37 pm so we just need a perfect poe pool of 4 to win right

We get four kills, yes

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:35 pm This is going to sound dumb as hell but who's Mikey?

Oh ts account, sorry

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:30 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:18 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:08 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:52 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:47 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:31 pm Ok so martin mikey esooa clear

Kyle soft clear

Fingers obviously clear

Alison probably fine

So seanzie lc bo me is probably a winning poe yeah?

Nice
Why do you have these people cleared?
Martin cause Alison says hes town mikey and esooa off votes and pushes

Esooa tends much more towards gard defending or distancing partners ime, don't think she's normally a hell busser, mikey i don't think tries to solo run this game pretty sure he's just town
This is the most recent questions you asked me that I could find and....

I literally did answer with reasons for the reads on the players you asked about?

You asked about martin mikey and esooa, I answered about Martin mikey and esooa

What the actual fuck are you talking about
Wait a second....

You're right. I'm sorry Nanook I am out to lunch holy shit. Talk about scramble brain... Nonetheless I disagree with the reason to clear them as town.
No worries I was just deeply confused

Which reasons do you disagree with? I mean I think they're pretty solid tbh
"Martin cause Alison says hes town mikey and esooa off votes and pushes"

I already mentioned this somewhere in the game but clearing Martin because of Alison seems weak. I know you responded by explaining some teammate dynamic. That's not enough to clear them. It's a solid enough reason to townread them, but not outright clear them.

"Esooa tends much more towards gard defending or distancing partners ime, don't think she's normally a hell busser, mikey i don't think tries to solo run this game pretty sure he's just town"

Esooa's meta read is good, but definitely not good enough to clear her. I think Esooa is getting by too easily tbh. The reasoning behind mike is the worst out of the bunch for me. You cleared him because you don't "THINK" he tried a solo run. You're not even positive yourself and listed him as cleared anyways.

I mean

Ok

So Alison has a historically very very high accuracy read on martin, I believe she's correctly read him every time they've played together. So that's a read I'm very willing to sheep and discard martin as a suspect.

Esooa may not be allllll the way cleared but I'd never vote her before f3

Same with mikey, it's theoretically possible he's mafia but he's strongly anti bussing and helped kill two mafia, so....never really reconsidering him until f3.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:08 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:52 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:47 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:31 pm Ok so martin mikey esooa clear

Kyle soft clear

Fingers obviously clear

Alison probably fine

So seanzie lc bo me is probably a winning poe yeah?

Nice
Why do you have these people cleared?
Martin cause Alison says hes town mikey and esooa off votes and pushes

Esooa tends much more towards gard defending or distancing partners ime, don't think she's normally a hell busser, mikey i don't think tries to solo run this game pretty sure he's just town
This is the most recent questions you asked me that I could find and....

I literally did answer with reasons for the reads on the players you asked about?

You asked about martin mikey and esooa, I answered about Martin mikey and esooa

What the actual fuck are you talking about
Wait a second....

You're right. I'm sorry Nanook I am out to lunch holy shit. Talk about scramble brain... Nonetheless I disagree with the reason to clear them as town.

No worries I was just deeply confused

Which reasons do you disagree with? I mean I think they're pretty solid tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:52 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:47 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:31 pm Ok so martin mikey esooa clear

Kyle soft clear

Fingers obviously clear

Alison probably fine

So seanzie lc bo me is probably a winning poe yeah?

Nice
Why do you have these people cleared?
Martin cause Alison says hes town mikey and esooa off votes and pushes

Esooa tends much more towards gard defending or distancing partners ime, don't think she's normally a hell busser, mikey i don't think tries to solo run this game pretty sure he's just town

This is the most recent questions you asked me that I could find and....

I literally did answer with reasons for the reads on the players you asked about?

You asked about martin mikey and esooa, I answered about Martin mikey and esooa

What the actual fuck are you talking about

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:03 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:58 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:57 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:55 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:50 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:38 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:14 pm To add to what I said about Seanzie, the way NANOOK answered my questions about their read list is still sus to me.
Yeah not agreeing with someone makes them super sus, totes mcgoats
Nah I just didn't like your reasoning, and the inconsistencies of your read list and the people you explained
Idk I think its pretty consistent
Having a list of people you town read, then explaining your reads on others when asked to explain the one group isn't consistent
I don't really follow this at all

I'm pretty sure I've explained my reads on just about everyone haven't i?
You did. It was just the way it all unfolded felt bad to me. I don't understand the thought process of providing reasons of alignment for players I didn't ask for.

I genuinely don't understand your problem this seems incredibly dumb to me but ok ig

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:57 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:55 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:50 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:38 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:14 pm To add to what I said about Seanzie, the way NANOOK answered my questions about their read list is still sus to me.
Yeah not agreeing with someone makes them super sus, totes mcgoats
Nah I just didn't like your reasoning, and the inconsistencies of your read list and the people you explained
Idk I think its pretty consistent
Having a list of people you town read, then explaining your reads on others when asked to explain the one group isn't consistent

I don't really follow this at all

I'm pretty sure I've explained my reads on just about everyone haven't i?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:50 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:38 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:14 pm To add to what I said about Seanzie, the way NANOOK answered my questions about their read list is still sus to me.
Yeah not agreeing with someone makes them super sus, totes mcgoats
Nah I just didn't like your reasoning, and the inconsistencies of your read list and the people you explained

Idk I think its pretty consistent

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:14 pm To add to what I said about Seanzie, the way NANOOK answered my questions about their read list is still sus to me.

Yeah not agreeing with someone makes them super sus, totes mcgoats

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:27 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:24 am How's everyone feeling?
For me this is the toughest lynch. All the other lynches I felt there were more clear candidates, whereas this one I feel like there are two or three people who it could be but have all also seemed town a lot. So it’s a guess really.
Add on top of that, there is only one mafia left, so the game could be over with a right guess, but with a wrong one I’m almost certainly getting night killed tonight and I lose.

Dead town win with town, fyi

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:42 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:13 am Also the only things from that post that have changed are I swapped you and bo

Besides realizing lc is dead ofc
hm

in the process of compiling posts to show what i meant i realized what i saw as an inconsistency was actually a problem in my reading comprehension

Relatable

The easiest way to get out of the poe is to die early

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:30 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:24 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:19 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:08 am The poe is not such a bad place to be

Its not cause of anything specific you did theres just stronger reasons to TR other people
i don't mind being in the PoE, playing well as town should by default put you in outskirts of the PoE. i mind when it looks like players are capitalizing on my low effort play to cast shade on me without actually looking at my words or actions or the context in which they took place
If you're asking me to read the entire thread

No
you don't have to read the thread just read stuff relating to things you plan to talk about or vote because of

but also like.... mood though

I'm not voting you am I

If it helps your ego if Sean flips town you can kill me then you, idc

And, like, I'm not calling you scum, you're just in a poe cause there's a ton of people who have been very townie

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:19 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:08 am The poe is not such a bad place to be

Its not cause of anything specific you did theres just stronger reasons to TR other people
i don't mind being in the PoE, playing well as town should by default put you in outskirts of the PoE. i mind when it looks like players are capitalizing on my low effort play to cast shade on me without actually looking at my words or actions or the context in which they took place

If you're asking me to read the entire thread

No

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:16 am Also what made you POE Bo originally before realizing it was not a good idea

Thinking you're probably town

I didn't have much reason to think bo was town and the wagon on him d1 made some sense if mafia got trapped into cross bussing imo, since if you were town there was a ratrug wagon they could've at least tied

Looking more at quin and how he handled falcon and comparing that to how he handled bo made/makes me think that's a bad take and bo is probably town

So idk that saying its like it vanished is a reasonable take

Also the only things from that post that have changed are I swapped you and bo

Besides realizing lc is dead ofc

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:11 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:31 pm Ok so martin mikey esooa clear

Kyle soft clear

Fingers obviously clear

Alison probably fine

So seanzie lc bo me is probably a winning poe yeah?

Nice
you made this post and then 3 hours later it's like most of this vanished for you and i was wondering what happened, or if i am misinterpreting the purpose of what you're saying in this post

I reevaluated

I also realized lc was already dead and had to adjust my worldviews accordingly

The poe is not such a bad place to be

Its not cause of anything specific you did theres just stronger reasons to TR other people

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:07 am every single game:

someone: i think kyle might be bad cus of no reason whatsoever
me: actually that reason isn't very good and here's why, i'm here to engage with you or answer any questions you might have
them: who knows! there's no way to know for sure what's going on, and you have to stay in the PoE regardless

Otherwise known as the LC special

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:07 am My phone stopped giving me the shrug emoji when I type shrug and its a pain to tab to the emojis so now I'm just going to be typing shrug and you're all going to have to deal with it

Shrug

My phone stopped giving me the shrug emoji when I type shrug and its a pain to tab to the emojis so now I'm just going to be typing shrug and you're all going to have to deal with it

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:38 am
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:35 am I think scum nook tries harder to force open the POE because he can't win otherwise
I've not seen Nanook as mafia but considering how he acts as town I feel like trying to do that would be basically outing

not sure doe so whatever

He actually seems towny imo on reread

I don't think I'd care about that atp if I'm mafia

I mean yes obviously I think it's better if I'm the last jn the poe

But honestly I don't think I care enough to fight it much if I get pushed out in front

Probably a small bit just cause I'm prideful but

Yeah I don't think I really care that much

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:27 am like really.. he says he doesn't care about who gets chopped first but he's also saying he's not gonna die today

If he were up to be lynched do you really think he'd just not say anything and die?

I wouldn't say nothing

Id leave my legacy and some vaguely dickish comments about how you should follow it

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:26 am mainly i am illustrating how cringe nanook and martin are for suspecting me with "uhhhh maybe it's this guy who even is that" reasons

Meh I'm not really sold on your quin interactions being clearing, obviously I want sean dead first but shrug

I don't super care what order it goes in

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