The Syndicate

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm Good. The only losing result that doesn’t completely piss me off.

Good game nova. Nice job. Good game kitties.
Do you see now how much value has a Poe?
I told you and you let yourself lynched for that, to proove it. Your effort in the game was huge o7

I had fun playing and i knew Nova may be mafia. But at the very end of the day my head was completely unable to think and my headache was horrible.

Please forgive me, I couldn't come with the win, it would be nice.

Fayr, i am sorry, I miseread you, I hope you are not mad at me.

Dragomir, sorry for the mislynch.

Conclusion: never let Nova alive after day 3. he is the deep wolf, the big bad one ^^. Well played.

Thanks for hosting DDL !

lol it's alright. I'm not mad, it was still fun. Nova played well.

At the end of the day, I only have myself to be blamed for being sussed so much. I had a deep wolf theory back on day 3 but I didn't have the guts to push it hard against Nova until it was too late. I think I was just praying to myself that it's not Nova but haha that was a mistake too. I tried so many ways to see if I can clear myself but I was always in someone's poe lol.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:29 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:20 pm Ahh man I was really hoping it wasn't nova back in like day 3 and then I realize it too late (after drago lynch) lol. Oh well I already said that many times, nova did very well and it was still very fun.

This was the first game where I had never played with no role reveal, no role claims, or hints at all. I can't go outright and say No way in hell nova is collie, etc so I learned a lot more what I had to do.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:15 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:10 pm The thing that had been irritating me the most by far in the dead chat was the Dom lynch. It was... very bad. But the frustration is alleviated knowing that it was spearheaded by a cat. Instead of just being a total dog derp, it was a clever cat. Cool beans.
Fayt almost caugh up on it. Like why would a dog switch off of someone fearing they might be a Pitbull. But I guess that was the plan
That was one of the things I wanted to say but was afraid of getting mod killed as role hinting lol. I had a feeling you mightve switched from me to Drago cause of the null vote.
Haha that's exactly what I did. I was a little bit panicking in the chat saying that I had to switch off of you in case you were the Pitbull. I really didn't want to make it to a last 3 with you 'cause I was convinced you'd immediately tinfoil me and never let go of your feeling since you've played against my baddie self a few times.

Lol I should trust my gut more. I get in those situations a lot where I get panicky and then it makes me look sussed as well.

Great game.

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] I did enjoy reading your analysis

I feel like if I had said that while in the game, you might sus me even more but it was fun reading the analysis even though mine was wrong. I went back a few times too to make sure I didn't miss anything either with the interactions.

darn you nova im policy lynching you from now on so i dont have to try to read you xd

whoops I meant ever, not never

Ahh man I was really hoping it wasn't nova back in like day 3 and then I realize it too late (after drago lynch) lol. Oh well I already said that many times, nova did very well and it was still very fun.

This was the first game where I had never played with no role reveal, no role claims, or hints at all. I can't go outright and say No way in hell nova is collie, etc so I learned a lot more what I had to do.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:15 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:10 pm The thing that had been irritating me the most by far in the dead chat was the Dom lynch. It was... very bad. But the frustration is alleviated knowing that it was spearheaded by a cat. Instead of just being a total dog derp, it was a clever cat. Cool beans.
Fayt almost caugh up on it. Like why would a dog switch off of someone fearing they might be a Pitbull. But I guess that was the plan

That was one of the things I wanted to say but was afraid of getting mod killed as role hinting lol. I had a feeling you mightve switched from me to Drago cause of the null vote.

I apologize to all the doggies because I played pretty poorily ^^ I believed in you JJJ even when you sussed me.

now Im def gone for an hour for post match

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:14 pm Like she said she was gone and starting to fake congratulate me like I'm winning as a cat, then when you prod me she comes back and start shading me more.

whatever dude it's a great act

Sucks the dogs have to lose off of a great start but I learned a lot now. It was a fun game regardless

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:05 pm Nova if she is mafia because you're voting her, she KNOWS you are dog. Why to say this to her?

because he knows Im a dog and wants to confuse us both. He led the lynch on two townies, laid low. and just confirmed that he himself would go after the people and not the roles.

He got his manipulation on you which is what he wanted.

He's not a dog.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:57 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:56 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:46 pm I am ready for anything.
Fayt was JJJs first suspect. After she was cleared by Dragomir who considered her villager.
JJJ is wrong about me. I'm town and he was wrong about you too.
how do you know i am villager?

cause nova is cat and Im dog

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:48 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:41 pm Look i asked Fayt in the morning if she knows the alive dogs and she considered i want her to claim and was ezitant. You posted very quick the remaining breeds.
You know who keeps track of who's alive as role? I had no idea who the other except me is tbh. But mafia have to know who's who and try to hunt roles for best NKs.

And now you just said if i don't vote is RNGed which for a person so interested in the game is very curious.
I've been following the game and I know my role. She probably hesitated 'cause she didn't know since she isn't a dog. Mafia usually kill threats to them based on players not roles, also town read or confirmed peeps.

Just think about it, it's obviously RNG. This is 2v1 players, not 1v1 players. Tied lynches are always RNG. I also told you to vote.

Well this confirmed that Nova is cat for me. He left me and Michelle alone so he can manipulate us.

But like I said, if he wins as cat, I'm not going to be upset cause he played well.

Back to work.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:46 pm I am ready for anything.
Fayt was JJJs first suspect. After she was cleared by Dragomir who considered her villager.

JJJ is wrong about me. I'm town and he was wrong about you too.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:15 pm @Fayt when you started to play mafia? You mentioned a short time of playing

I'm here briefly before I go back to work. I played I think 1 game a year ago and then stopped. I went back to mafia this year.

[VOTE: Nova] aubergine

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:23 am Tbh i could read exactly nothing. I am as dumb as i was 12 hoirs ago.
Dragomir last read on Fayt was villager. The fact that anyone else didn't vote for Fayt and didn't brought up she is scum is not helping at all.

And Nova is like umiversally town read. Exactly this is a problem by itself Do scum kill Epi before Nova?

Dragomir wanted to lynch you or me though.

Anyways, I have back to back meetings so I will be busy with work. I think Nova is the last cat. I have reasons to believe that he is because I think he set everything up from day 1 to get to this point. And after looking at your town and scum games, I don't think as scum you would just partner up with Rej so easily.

It will probably be up to you as the tie breaker. I don't know if you will believe me, but I am a dog.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:17 am
Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:15 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:14 am Fayt what language is your native?
vietnamese
thanks. mine is romanian.

where is your head at rn?

huh? what does that mean? Does that mean what do I think?

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:14 am Fayt what language is your native?

vietnamese

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:29 am is no way i can read all game without the Iso possibility
What i see is you previously played with Nova, in one game he is villager in the other his flip is not revealed.
What role was that?

His role was town that game where the flip is not revealed. I can't seem to find the search option on mobile as non member. You would have to log in and then use the search function and then use 'Posted By Member' search and check search in this thread

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Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:18 am and who you are? is there an Iso possibility?

Oh sorry, my name in those games is Kvothe Kingkiller.

Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:44 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:37 am Btw link me please a scum game and a town game, i hope is allowed
This is my first game here. Is on NF okay?

scum https://www.narutoforums.org/threads/th ... t-60691385

town https://www.narutoforums.org/threads/th ... e.1176436/

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:37 am Btw link me please a scum game and a town game, i hope is allowed

This is my first game here. Is on NF okay?

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:36 am
Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:30 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:29 am Fayt why didn't you vote in day 3?
Day 3 was the tie plan between me and JJJ. I originally thought that would clear me or JJJ but I was wrong. The mechanic doesn't clear anyone. At the time the votes were me: 3 and JJJ: 3 but then Dragomir switched at the last second to JJJ so it made me: 3 and JJJ: 4.
idk if that was the last second. But why a vote on host and not on another scumread in your Poe?

Because that was the town's plan was to tie us up. It got really messy at the end because I was on JJJ. But when Drago moved from JJJ to Dom, it was going to make JJJ: 4 and me: 3 so I panicked and couldn't find another target before the polls locked. I went to no vote and Drago moved to Dom and then it got locked.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:29 am Fayt why didn't you vote in day 3?

Day 3 was the tie plan between me and JJJ. I originally thought that would clear me or JJJ but I was wrong. The mechanic doesn't clear anyone. At the time the votes were me: 3 and JJJ: 3 but then Dragomir switched at the last second to JJJ so it made me: 3 and JJJ: 4.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:46 am
Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:17 am
Spoiler: show
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:54 am
Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:45 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:44 am
Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:42 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:38 am Morning

Yes. I will reveal it. It's just an idea who may support my decision. But you didn't answer. Can you tell me why?
I mistakened it, I thought you wanted me to claim but since Nova already answered, I didn't think I need to. Pit bull and Collie.
You knew that or not when i asked?
I did yeah. I know of my role and the last dog role.
thanks. I will start rererad and catch up what you posted overnight.

What made you going stright after Nova at SoD?
After yesterday, I thought for sure it was a deep wolf. Someone who planned everything from bussing Rej day 1, stayed back in the shadows while being town read by everyone, and kept me alive for a mislynch. It felt like Nova, who I've played games with, fit that profile for me because I find him a really good mafia player. Maybe it was super tin foil, but that was my feeling at the time.

I also didn't think you would blatantly follow Rej as a cat and then set this up. Nutella's point about the vig put me on pause but I don't know you very well. You could be the last cat and I'm just underestimating you. So I have to consider the possibilities. I only know myself.

Fayt wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:41 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:40 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:13 pm The LC kill was weird for me.. I'm trying to think if LC suspected anyone other than Drago. But I feel if Drago was the last cat, he would try again to lynch LC no?

Or did he realize no one was going for LC so he shot him?
Can you just vote for Michelle?
I do prefer a Michelle lynch over you but what are your feelings on Nova and Nutella if we're wrong again.

Fayt wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:59 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:50 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:49 pm What cleared Nova and Nutella for you?
Stop asking me questions. Dang. I can't explain them to you. It just how it is. Take it or leave it.
I'm just really worried if we mislynched again. I feel like if it's not michelle then we have a deep wolf.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
These posts really make me think that it's a setup you've been working on. You're putting out the idea of nutella or me while nonchalantly votingo to lynch Michelle. Feels like you were not interested in figuring out who it is with at all but shading nut and me preemptively by fear-mongering "deep wolf". Like you know Michelle is going to be a mislynch and you're buddying up Drago for the following phase.

There is no setup. I do not know if you are the cat or Michelle so I have to consider all the possibilities. We had like 3 mislynches in a row so the possibility of another mislynch was there because I do not know who's the last cat at all. If I were to choose to buddy anyone why Drago when he was dead set on lynching Michelle or me.

If you all have any questions for me, I'll answer in the morning because I should get to sleep. I'll look over once more before I go to work and place my vote in the morning. Good night

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:40 am These posts came into my head as genuine. Scum would be more explanatory from what i know.
Spoiler: show

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:11 pm I don't think I tend to put a lot of energy into *seeming* Civilian.
this is a mindmelt with my playstyle. I don't post to look villagery. He said it before, i know, but saying it again was a good thing for me
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:05 pm Worthy of thought.

Rej lynched by a single vote on day 1.

Flipped wolf on his wagon.

Why did Speedchuck not just vote for LC?
It looks like speedchuck was gone from the thread before the LC thing really became viable.
The logic here was good and the wording as simple as it is was made me thinking I was wrong about him.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:25 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:08 pm I'm feeling it's LC.
It's not me, nut.
Again, as scum he would add a lot of reasons. He is slightly pockety by calling Nutella 'nut' but as scum the pocketing would be different.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:25 pm Fayt has not posted at all in Day 3. Silenced?
This post is interesting.
Before i go searching, is true i think, why don't you have posts d3 Fayt?

I was busy with work while I was sick so I rested after I got home from work. I explained it here

Fayt wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:28 am hello sorry. I had a very long day at work and I'm not feeling very well so apologies if I don't reply right away. Regarding my vote last phase, it was rushed. I went on kinda late before the lynch and ended up being not confident in the LC vote. I was waffling between Dragomir and Sprityo but ended up with Sprityo cause I didn't like his posts and the people I townread also voted for him so I was a little more secure with that vote.

I know it doesn't look good for me on top of the very poor timing that I'm not feeling well too but if the lynch does happen for me, I hope my mislynch would go into finding the real scum.

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:44 am
Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:42 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:38 am Morning

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:48 pm
Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:35 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:32 pm Oh I thought you were trying to make me claim
nope, i would never do this. We can't claim anyway iirc. I wanted to see of you know the answer.

Was there a reason for this?
Yes. I will reveal it. It's just an idea who may support my decision. But you didn't answer. Can you tell me why?
I mistakened it, I thought you wanted me to claim but since Nova already answered, I didn't think I need to. Pit bull and Collie.
You knew that or not when i asked?

I did yeah. I know of my role and the last dog role.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:42 am Well... i have a problem reading your walls in the previous page. I am always on mobile and i often use spoilers to can read easier.
Fayt said her mobile is at 5% but she doesn't bother to use spoilers instead scrolling so much :/

I didn't really think about using spoilers, I'm used to scrolling a lot on NF too.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:38 am Morning

Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:48 pm
Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:35 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:32 pm Oh I thought you were trying to make me claim
nope, i would never do this. We can't claim anyway iirc. I wanted to see of you know the answer.

Was there a reason for this?
Yes. I will reveal it. It's just an idea who may support my decision. But you didn't answer. Can you tell me why?

I mistakened it, I thought you wanted me to claim but since Nova already answered, I didn't think I need to. Pit bull and Collie.

since day 2. Not off of day 2.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:04 am Epi put you down at bad after re-reading Jay's stuff

He put me as bad? I thought he read me as town.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:59 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:48 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:37 pm Your calm and measure attitude has been kind of giving me the heebie jeebies. It reminds me of The Boys game a little bit when you were scum, especially the way you've been second guessing lynches in a weird fear-mongering way. Instances on both ISOs are very similar. It also kind of sells a gentle and innocent tone that I've been letting you coast on in my head.
On top of being in a new game with new people, and this is the first time that info dumping, no role revealing/claims are allowed which is usually my forte, I'm incredibly unsure.
You're still kind of active though, and not shying away really. It's just that your contribution feels shadowy, and you've been taking a backseat as a supporting role. It gives off an opportunistic vibe.

People kept sus reading me off of day 2. I was willing to mislynch myself just for the sake of town, why would I gamble that entirely if I was the last cat... I can't explain my playstyle other than second-guessing everything because on top of being sus read, I can't go off of meta reads except on maybe you and Dragomir (who I played maybe 1 or 2 games with? I can't remember). All I got is gut feelings and dependency.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:37 pm Your calm and measure attitude has been kind of giving me the heebie jeebies. It reminds me of The Boys game a little bit when you were scum, especially the way you've been second guessing lynches in a weird fear-mongering way. Instances on both ISOs are very similar. It also kind of sells a gentle and innocent tone that I've been letting you coast on in my head.

On top of being in a new game with new people, and this is the first time that info dumping, no role revealing/claims are allowed which is usually my forte, I'm incredibly unsure.

I can never read you Nova. Your posts seem genuine, it feels like you're scum hunting + tunnel people which is what I'm used to with Town Nova. You are incredibly clean after I read through your posts minus the "switch target with me in case Dom is Pitbull"

But at the same time, I also cannot shake off this gut feeling that you possibly bussed Rej, have people town read you all game so you lie pretty low, and kept me alive.

I've never played with Michelle before. I don't know if her game plan was to completely partner with Rej, tried to go on the LC train to save her buddy, and it didn't work because they didn't grab enough people.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:20 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:39 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:18 pm What are you guys going to do after I flip town? Lynch Dom? Lynch Fayt?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:20 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:18 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:16 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:03 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:57 pm I don't think you guys actually that I'm scum. My behavior is bizarre to you guys and you associate with me being scum which imo more points to me being town instead of scum. About the other reasons like Rej not voting for me, well...I don't know what to tell you.
No, sorry but I do actually think you're scum. And no it's not some bias that I associate you with being scum, how would that even make sense?? You've been town in most of the games I've played with you, and one of the strongest townreads I had in them at that, so that's definitely not an issue. I suppose your bizarreness here is marking difference from those games, but meta is not really that much of a concern on top of the rest of my case for your catness based solely on the events of this game.
Huh? I wasn't talking about meta.
Then what? I thought you were town until this phase lol.
I'm talking about this game. I've been playing bizarre and you guys don't understand it so you attribute it to scum behavior. That's how I feel about it. The only reason against me that isn't linked to my bizarre play is Rej not voting for me which I can't explain.

What changed this DP for you to scum read me?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:22 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:20 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:18 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:16 pm

Huh? I wasn't talking about meta.
Then what? I thought you were town until this phase lol.
I'm talking about this game. I've been playing bizarre and you guys don't understand it so you attribute it to scum behavior. That's how I feel about it. The only reason against me that isn't linked to my bizarre play is Rej not voting for me which I can't explain.

What changed this DP for you to scum read me?
...I've been over this. Your strange vote behavior yesterday combined with the lack of vig kill
The lack of vig kill shows nothing. Literally nothing. It should not be used against me. My strange voting pattern points that I'm town. Why it does is because it is STRANGE. Like why would a mafia vote like that? Come on now.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:28 pm I pinky promise that I won't play weird for the rest of the games on this site if you guys don't lynch me.
I just had this gut feeling that maybe Drago was telling the truth. I had then doubt in my drago vote but I wasn't clearing him so I thought of maybe we could try the tie vote again and maybe my slight town lean on Dom was possibly wrong. Come next phase, I cleared Drago just off of tone and end of phase behavior along with the beginning of the last phase.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:49 pm Man, Rej did a great job manipulating you guys. I told you he was trying to make me go down with him by making me look bad by not voting me.

When Mac presented with incredibly damning evidence, I thought maybe I shouldn't base it off of just feelings. I thought Drago must be scum then, he didn't have anything to refute it with.

Those were my thoughts on Dragomir.

I'm checking Michelle and yours post now.
It just feels weird how you were proposing a lynch on someone who you were leaning town on, yet at the same time keeping your vote on Drago and throwing shade on him with the whole sketchy remark. Also like if you believed Drago was telling the truth as a gut feeling and your read Dom being maybe wrong, why not go all the way and try to save him?

I didn't fully clear Drago that phase and I was still unsure about Dom. The plan was to tie it and hopefully get the last cat with it.

Although, thinking back about it, why did you want to be on Drago's side of the tie if Dom was the pitbull? I saw the plan late but I didn't question it. I remember that we want to tie it but why would it be a problem if Dom was a pitbull and you had to change your vote? Your vote would've negated on Dom's so that would've been a good thing so why decide "if he's the pitbull, maybe I should switch target."

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:18 pm What are you guys going to do after I flip town? Lynch Dom? Lynch Fayt?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:20 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:18 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:16 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:03 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:57 pm I don't think you guys actually that I'm scum. My behavior is bizarre to you guys and you associate with me being scum which imo more points to me being town instead of scum. About the other reasons like Rej not voting for me, well...I don't know what to tell you.
No, sorry but I do actually think you're scum. And no it's not some bias that I associate you with being scum, how would that even make sense?? You've been town in most of the games I've played with you, and one of the strongest townreads I had in them at that, so that's definitely not an issue. I suppose your bizarreness here is marking difference from those games, but meta is not really that much of a concern on top of the rest of my case for your catness based solely on the events of this game.
Huh? I wasn't talking about meta.
Then what? I thought you were town until this phase lol.
I'm talking about this game. I've been playing bizarre and you guys don't understand it so you attribute it to scum behavior. That's how I feel about it. The only reason against me that isn't linked to my bizarre play is Rej not voting for me which I can't explain.

What changed this DP for you to scum read me?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:22 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:20 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:18 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:16 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:03 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:57 pm I don't think you guys actually that I'm scum. My behavior is bizarre to you guys and you associate with me being scum which imo more points to me being town instead of scum. About the other reasons like Rej not voting for me, well...I don't know what to tell you.
No, sorry but I do actually think you're scum. And no it's not some bias that I associate you with being scum, how would that even make sense?? You've been town in most of the games I've played with you, and one of the strongest townreads I had in them at that, so that's definitely not an issue. I suppose your bizarreness here is marking difference from those games, but meta is not really that much of a concern on top of the rest of my case for your catness based solely on the events of this game.
Huh? I wasn't talking about meta.
Then what? I thought you were town until this phase lol.
I'm talking about this game. I've been playing bizarre and you guys don't understand it so you attribute it to scum behavior. That's how I feel about it. The only reason against me that isn't linked to my bizarre play is Rej not voting for me which I can't explain.

What changed this DP for you to scum read me?
...I've been over this. Your strange vote behavior yesterday combined with the lack of vig kill
The lack of vig kill shows nothing. Literally nothing. It should not be used against me. My strange voting pattern points that I'm town. Why it does is because it is STRANGE. Like why would a mafia vote like that? Come on now.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:28 pm I pinky promise that I won't play weird for the rest of the games on this site if you guys don't lynch me.

I just had this gut feeling that maybe Drago was telling the truth. I had then doubt in my drago vote but I wasn't clearing him so I thought of maybe we could try the tie vote again and maybe my slight town lean on Dom was possibly wrong. Come next phase, I cleared Drago just off of tone and end of phase behavior along with the beginning of the last phase.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:49 pm Man, Rej did a great job manipulating you guys. I told you he was trying to make me go down with him by making me look bad by not voting me.

When Mac presented with incredibly damning evidence, I thought maybe I shouldn't base it off of just feelings. I thought Drago must be scum then, he didn't have anything to refute it with.

Those were my thoughts on Dragomir.

I'm checking Michelle and yours post now.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:30 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:22 pm I just have a hard time believing it's Michelle after what Nutella brought up in the last phase. I don't think she would blatantly side with Rej and then keep me around as a mislynch.

As for Dom and Dragomir, I was uncertain about both because of the points made against Dom. Dragomir sounded sincere in his frustrations and even I began to doubt myself that Drago is scum.
What Nutella brought up is what made me change to kind of doubt my read of Drago and switch, it became like a fact rather than theories.

What sounded sincere about him? I've been iso-ing you and I don't see much there from the moment your waiting for him, then voting him and then kind of talking him into selling you Dom as a lynch.

My phone's at 5% and I'll be home in like 4 or 5 hours but I can bring up the quotes later when I felt doubt in my vote. I need to recheck then on you and Michelle since I was wrong before about Drago and Sprityo, I could be wrong again.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:35 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:32 pm Oh I thought you were trying to make me claim
nope, i would never do this. We can't claim anyway iirc. I wanted to see of you know the answer.

Was there a reason for this?

Oh I thought you were trying to make me claim

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:29 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:27 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:14 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:09 pm It was Nova all along... he cruised by while town was towning each other and went under the radar. I don't know if you'll believe me Michelle but he set up so many things to get to this point.
Do you know who the last two dogs alive are?
I'm Dog. I don't know about you or Nova but I believe you more than Nova at this point.

I could be wrong though :/ Maybe you're the one fooling me but the only one I know is myself.
i was talking about the dog breeds still alive. Sorry my thoughts are hard to put in english at this hour.

ummm thats against the rules.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:14 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:09 pm It was Nova all along... he cruised by while town was towning each other and went under the radar. I don't know if you'll believe me Michelle but he set up so many things to get to this point.
Do you know who the last two dogs alive are?

I'm Dog. I don't know about you or Nova but I believe you more than Nova at this point.

I could be wrong though :/ Maybe you're the one fooling me but the only one I know is myself.

I just have a hard time believing it's Michelle after what Nutella brought up in the last phase. I don't think she would blatantly side with Rej and then keep me around as a mislynch.

As for Dom and Dragomir, I was uncertain about both because of the points made against Dom. Dragomir sounded sincere in his frustrations and even I began to doubt myself that Drago is scum.

I won't be really upset if Nova ends up winning as a cat. He played us all really fucking well and I'll answer what I can but I'm certain now

[VOTE: Nova] aubergine

It was Nova all along... he cruised by while town was towning each other and went under the radar. I don't know if you'll believe me Michelle but he set up so many things to get to this point.

Hmm. ..

Okay, I can't ignore all that evidence. I cleared him initially in this phase because he seemed genuine last phase eod and this phase. Well that and the LC kill but the LC kill was explained. That's not much to clear him with other than having a gut feeling and believing he seems genuine.

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:47 pm What whole thing about michelle?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:09 pm See the thing is I think it's either Fayt or Drago who prevented Fayt from being killed. Do you see michelle doing that?

I don't see her doing this. I mean I'm judging this based off this game and her posts but I don't think so if what you're saying is true.

Shit, I need to reevaluate.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:50 pm I think Jay is probably screaming at me from across the rainbow bridge. I can't ignore the data.

[VOTE: fayt] aubergine

Either way, you are clearly an incredibly skilled player and I'm glad to have you on the site.

Hmm. I mean as much as I would love to be lynched and flipped so people can see that I did believe in JJJ and his defense, you and JJJ are wrong about me.

However, this whole thing about Michelle is making me doubt my vote if what you're saying is to be true. ugh.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:40 pm oh nvm i gotcha

but you saying that doesn't make me feel better about you lol

fair, what are your thoughts on me then so maybe I can clear it up.

I'm town and I want to be able to prove it.

Last phase being eod btw. It sounded genuine frustration and not a scum about to be caught.

I think Nutella is town. When I get back on my pc, I'll take a look but off of speedchuck's death/flip, that was my initial thought.

Drago, ok so the LC kill doesn't clear him if the case the killer went for him because he was a widely town read, but I still find him hella genuine this phase and last phase.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:49 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:37 pm I don't know. I believe Drago on top of the NK tbh. It was either to implicate Drago or it was just a random kill. I don't think he's pulling the wool over my eyes and his eod behavior sounded genuine but eh.

He's wrong about me being the last cat though so if you want to build a case on me, do so so I can dispute it and put it to rest. We need to look at everyone if we are wrong.
I disagree with your nk analysis. I don't get how you're interpreting it. And you can always apply the wifom/that's-what-he-wants-you-to-think consideration. I mean, consider yesterday. He was trying to emphasize that he suspected LC, but there was never going to be a wagon there so he gave up. Do you think it's possible that he deliberately did that to plant the seed for us to think he wanted to lynch LC but then NKed him to throw us off since we'd think he'd want LC around as a mislynch target. Or that he saw there wasn't enough interest in lynching LC (tbf if LC was still around today he'd be in my poe, but whatever) so he knew he'd need to pivot to another mislynch target, so went ahead and killed LC figuring we wouldn't really know what to make of that. Idk, this is the problem with nk analysis. Too much wifom/potential for it to mean anything or nothing.

I also had that thought but I feel like similar to the TSP kill, it's what the killer is planning. Like they want us to go after Drago so I'm not buying it.

I would still like to hear reasons as to why you guys think it's me unless I've already said my peace on it.

I don't know. I believe Drago on top of the NK tbh. It was either to implicate Drago or it was just a random kill. I don't think he's pulling the wool over my eyes and his eod behavior sounded genuine but eh.

He's wrong about me being the last cat though so if you want to build a case on me, do so so I can dispute it and put it to rest. We need to look at everyone if we are wrong.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:50 pm
Fayt wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:49 pm What cleared Nova and Nutella for you?
Stop asking me questions. Dang. I can't explain them to you. It just how it is. Take it or leave it.

I'm just really worried if we mislynched again. I feel like if it's not michelle then we have a deep wolf.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

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