The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:20 pm Has anyone gone through Day 6? I knew at the start that Ted was bad because I had tracked him, but I allowed the idea of him being 3p to go on all day to see who would try to push tedxtr away from the chop. Who would agree with the idea of him being 3p. Who would get pushed (Wilgy) and who was helping to push it?

that would be me. I hard pushed the idea of Ted 3p and pushed Wiggly as wolf.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:17 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:15 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:04 pm what i propose is this:

kyle votes tutuu as he is a double voter meaning votes are on 4.
I keep my vote on tim as I am a double voter
we force tutuu to use her claimed role if it exists
kyle can steal from tutuu just to prove that there is no "rand" mechanic fuckery in play
alison protects LC
LC tracks someone in the poe

This just ends in dead Tim though doesn't it?

Probably, but I see no other way really unless we drastically change the wagons to someone else in the PoE and kyle just leaves a vanity vote on tutuu

vote tutuu for great justice

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:04 pm what i propose is this:

kyle votes tutuu as he is a double voter meaning votes are on 4.
I keep my vote on tim as I am a double voter
we force tutuu to use her claimed role if it exists
kyle can steal from tutuu just to prove that there is no "rand" mechanic fuckery in play
alison protects LC
LC tracks someone in the poe

This just ends in dead Tim though doesn't it?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:30 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:25 pm Aaaaaaand there you have it folks. When people actually start playing mafia and looking at "who hasn't made any sort of logical progression in their reads?" and questions like that...the sleeping lion floods the thread with mech speculation, on the same unanswerable 'questions' that have been pondered a hundred times before.

And of course throws a bit of "sounds theatrical" shade at the person that susses her.

JPIC, you in particular just deserve it if we lose to Tutuu.

I'm happy to take the blame if we lose to w!tutuu

alternately we chop tutuu and not lose to her?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:03 am @Michelle + @hollowkatt - why are you voting for Syn?

Can give a tim a pass as it's self-preservation

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tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:08 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:55 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:56 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:50 pm I like that big nutella post.

I thought it was horribly flawed...almost flawed enough to think it had to be intentional...and was considering breaking my intent to ignore the thread for a good chunk of time.

Now I am pissed, because you have forced my hand.

WTF do you find to like in that post?

how is this post real? it's theatrical, is it not? this isn't how tim talks, ever, no?

@hollowkatt

Sometimes, yeah. But keep talking to me/about Tim if you can

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:50 am @hollowkatt how much experience do u have with tim? i highly believe he has pocketed u

5 of my last 10 games have been with Tim, and I think somewhere around 8 games total played with him.
We've been town together 3-4 times, wolf together 3 times (I think), and i have wolfed against him a couple times as well.
To my knowledge I have never towned against Wolf Tim.

I think I've got more game and conversational experience with Tim than anyone here does, but that doesn't make me right.
I have a reasonable understanding of how he'd approach a game from wolf perspective having done it with him a few times. What I don't know (yet) is how he would approach a wolf game against town HK.
Truthfully I do not think Tim is a wolf here.

Yeah sure, this can't go wrong

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:42 am @hollowkatt

What you were waiting for has happened, and I am thinking we should kill Syn here. What do you say?

You willing to bet the game on that? Because if you're wrong brother... you know full well I'm putting your head on my door tomorrow

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:05 am

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:43 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:40 pm I'm game with anything that involves Tim's head on a pike.

Has Wilgy said anything new since the last time I asked?

Wilgy thinks I'm a woof

ngl that's really funny

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:18 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:11 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:22 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:16 pm This is tinfoil, but what if BOTH of Tim and LC are mafia? What if they were planning on Made being dead at the start of this day phase (from Tim's shot?) and have Alison off the poll so that they could potentially get another towny chopped? I mean... I guess it would me suboptimal to convince Made to self-blast himself, but maybe they still wanted to take advantage of Alison being off the polls today?

I think if me and LC were wolves we would look at such a plan and say "Eeeeeeh, Made says he's bulletproof, and we can chop him tomorrow for sure without implicating either of us. Let's use the extra shot on...anybody else." Like seriously if I was a wolf and knew Tutuu wasn't I'd have just said "she's green checked" and blasted her...or the annoying Syn who has tunneled me from day one...or fucking anyone but Made, really.

Why didn't you blast Tutuu? I don't recall you giving a strong town read there, or have I missed something yet again?

For the same reason I told Made he should just blow himself out. With Made alive this phase was totally worthless. As the vig shooting him was literally my one job. Taking the hero shot on Tutuu would be great only if it was right. I fucked that up once as a vig, and I learn from my mistakes.

I remember that

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:13 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:48 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:37 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:35 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:01 am I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

tutuu is spewed town

if kyle is legit then he either hit a mafia in the lc / me / tutuu pool or he got redirected.

and reading tutuu’s last posts on me (page before this one) it kinda reads like her vote on me is for no reason, since she thinks i’m a 3p and not a mafia given kyle’s check

so then why vote for me over a wolf?

@Kylemii Can you go over again the thing about the pool of people you had that you said contained one scum and one town? What were the specifics of it? And who was in that pool again?

Falcon 1, LC 2, Tutuu 3, Ted 4
to unlock my stump power I needed to target and hit both a town and mafia and I only accomplished that after targeting Ted.

Falcon Town Confirmed via flip. Ted Scum Confirmed via Flip
LC/Tutuu by extension must be town OR 3p, cannot be scum UNLESS Kyle is lying, in which case Kyle + ONE of LC/Tutuu are wolves as townKyle never lies about this (I think..)

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:22 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:16 pm This is tinfoil, but what if BOTH of Tim and LC are mafia? What if they were planning on Made being dead at the start of this day phase (from Tim's shot?) and have Alison off the poll so that they could potentially get another towny chopped? I mean... I guess it would me suboptimal to convince Made to self-blast himself, but maybe they still wanted to take advantage of Alison being off the polls today?

I think if me and LC were wolves we would look at such a plan and say "Eeeeeeh, Made says he's bulletproof, and we can chop him tomorrow for sure without implicating either of us. Let's use the extra shot on...anybody else." Like seriously if I was a wolf and knew Tutuu wasn't I'd have just said "she's green checked" and blasted her...or the annoying Syn who has tunneled me from day one...or fucking anyone but Made, really.

Why didn't you blast Tutuu? I don't recall you giving a strong town read there, or have I missed something yet again?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:56 pm Idt getting elton john'd is worth a clear on its own. of any of the powers the mafia has had it's pretty benign and jpic bringing it up could have been planting a seed for future credit.

by the same token baseball is also not indicative at all since the first two shots would never be harmful right?

I think the baseball actions/role are a red herring. It's functionally never killing a townie unless the ball thrower makes it to the end game yeah?
So anyone being "cleared" off of having a baseball thrown to them only isn't clear in my book.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:50 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:48 pm I'm literally never getting flipped unless I'm killed lol

not now, the old fogies are talking

ok, i thought I had something more profound to say to Tim, I take that back lol

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:46 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:39 pm @Timsup2nothin you said something earlier about Kyle/Tutuu and ordering. Can you bring that back up?

A wolf Tutuu may have some role that clearly explains where Kyle got a bad green check. So seeing that role helps solve Kyle. Flipping Kyle either way doesn't really tell us about Tutuu. So Tutuu should flip first.

I'll mull that over then.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:48 pm I'm literally never getting flipped unless I'm killed lol

not now, the old fogies are talking

@Timsup2nothin you said something earlier about Kyle/Tutuu and ordering. Can you bring that back up?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:07 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:06 pm I'm confused, why is Alison removed from the poll again and who did that?

Also, by my trustfall it's just Tutuu/Michelle like every time unless the wolf has me snowed, in which case it's Syn/Tim every time.

LC removed alison from the poll

ok, I missed that.

@Long Con why did you remove Alison from the poll?

I'm confused, why is Alison removed from the poll again and who did that?

Also, by my trustfall it's just Tutuu/Michelle like every time unless the wolf has me snowed, in which case it's Syn/Tim every time.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:02 pm Thank you HK. I shall read it tomorrow sometime

yeah, no rush

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:31 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:25 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:37 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:31 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:28 pm I'm gonna do spicy plays now [VOTE: kyle] aubergine

that is very spicy

@hollowkatt

Bad vote. If Tutuu flips red we have to decide whether her role could have mislead Kyle, or if the greencheck is just fake. But Tutuu is always a wolf if Kyle is, so go there first.

I never said it was a good vote, I said I'm doing spicy plays now.

HK: Take over and solve the game dammit!
Tim: Okay, here's the wolf.
HK: I'm voting over there.

smh

I expected a punt into the sun gif to accompany this post.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:29 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:28 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:49 pm Everyone should do a trustfall

none of my reasons are good

Just do it lol

ugh fine

Dyslexicon - Their tone, attitude, and willingness to directly engage with people asking them tough questions is spot on. Dizzy is playing like he wants to find a solution that works, not a solution that fits the current game state. He's willing to examine angles and think out loud about things.
I like the energy and thoughtfulness he's bringing when he posts, and nothing he's posting feels like it's rushed or needs to be said. He's saying the things he wants to say when he wants to say it. I like that he's done digging into flipped wolves and using what he finds there to semi-clear people. That's narrowing the POE and forcing wolves to have to interact with him to change his mind.


HK - I trust myself

Hyena - Attempting to flip the game on it's head today was townie don't @ me. He's unafraid to dance with anyone that wants to and when he does he brings good thoughts to the table. His arguments with JPIC today are solid, even if I think he's wrong and they don't seem to have an agenda to them, they just exist and people can interact as they want to.
I really like the posts he made towards Dizzy during D4 where he questions Dizzy on why he voted Wiggly after saying he could confidently read Nanook. They seem legit. Going to revisit this series of posts later and see if they still make sense.

JPIC - Townie attitude of dgaf, I like that. When I wolf hunt I'm looking for people that either aren't making enough sense, or are making too much sense. JPIC is right in that sweet spot of "I can't tell if you make sense or not". I also look for people who aren't starting fights (I am weak to a powerwolf I know that), or are reacting to conflict poorly and JPIC isn't doing any of that. He's not pure or clean but he's here and he's appearing to put in work.

Kyle - I kinda don't. I'm trying to come up with some reasons and they all come back to mech and kinda I hate that. This slot left intentionally blank I guess.

LC - Has been doing real work finding wolves and chopping them. Has also made lots of townie posts and hasn't made posts that make me want to snap vote him (at least not in the last couple days anyways). More flowery words go here if you want them, but this is more of a gut trusting thing I guess. Basically, if he's wolfing here he's playing an extremely solid game and not putting a single paw out of place. Odds seem good that's town, at least to me anyways.

This spot is intentionally left blank - insert something funny here, I'm running out of laughs

Michelle - Her death tunnel on tutuu is about the towniest thing she's doing. And yeah, that's about it too.

Syn - Tunnel on Tim - Check
Tunnelish on me - Check
Has DGAF attitude - Check
Thought he had a mech bomb to drop - Check
Syn is checking off the townie boxes I have for him. He's town


Tim - I could wax eloquently about Tim for hours I'm sure, but the jist of it is this: Wolf Tim doesn't get into the pissing matches he's currently getting in to. He knows he going to lose if he does that. His best way of winning this game is to pocket me, quietly dispatch the people who suspect him, and figure out a way to manage Syn. I don't see that happening here at all. I see Tim being town, doing dumb town things, and I buy his shots logic, they're shots that make sense to me.

Tutuu - See Michelle tbh, but if you don't want to, her death tunnels are the only thing that appear to be town b/c without them she's not doing anything of note or productive.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:27 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:24 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:52 pm Master Radish, early posts are a "big mood" but he manages to get into a swing of things, and responds to nutella's case moderately well, I think? Throws out some prods that seem earnest to me.

In a regular 1 ball game I would rate this player as a slight town I think.Bexcept that doesn't really mean anything here, since mafia can be earnest too I guess. But for what it's worth, every post I've read from him comes from a relatable place which I can understand logically and spiritually.

@Kylemii when did the game go from potential multi-ball to town/wolf/3p?

i don't understand the question

that would have been following the first yeet where we found out the mafia was just called mafia

I wasn't here then so seeing people discussing legit ideas about multi-ball peaked my interest. Appreciate it.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:49 pm Everyone should do a trustfall

none of my reasons are good

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:43 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:39 pm I think voting tutuu out is a bad idea this phase while the green check is in play. If she survives the next few nights thats when the tinfoil begins

i dont think im ever dying lol (by nk) (due to the amount of scumreads on me already despite the peek)

maybe i would have died earlier but if i was wolf i wouldnt kill me here. maybe if i'd kill me i'd be the very final nk before f3

I expect you to die at night sometime in the next couple nights if the peek is real. We're getting to the point where wolves need to kill real live townies, not just "can't be chopped" townies.
Also, if we for some reason flip the person who peeked you and it's a confirmed peek you're just dead.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:37 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:31 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:28 pm I'm gonna do spicy plays now [VOTE: kyle] aubergine

that is very spicy

@hollowkatt

Bad vote. If Tutuu flips red we have to decide whether her role could have mislead Kyle, or if the greencheck is just fake. But Tutuu is always a wolf if Kyle is, so go there first.

I never said it was a good vote, I said I'm doing spicy plays now.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:52 pm Master Radish, early posts are a "big mood" but he manages to get into a swing of things, and responds to nutella's case moderately well, I think? Throws out some prods that seem earnest to me.

In a regular 1 ball game I would rate this player as a slight town I think.Bexcept that doesn't really mean anything here, since mafia can be earnest too I guess. But for what it's worth, every post I've read from him comes from a relatable place which I can understand logically and spiritually.

@Kylemii when did the game go from potential multi-ball to town/wolf/3p?

I'm gonna do spicy plays now [VOTE: kyle] aubergine

throwing all of the mechanics out of the window and going back through ISOs for the living to see how they have interacted with the dead sounds like a wonderful use of my sunday evening, thanks

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:31 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:30 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:28 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:27 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:26 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:44 pm tutuun is still probably good? the kind of power that would make my kill go through, but not my other thing isn't yet accounted for right?

I really don't like the way she goes straight to "I am green peeked and above all doubt." Like, everyone in the game that I really think is town is starting to have serious "there's fuckery in the mech" doubts. Tutuu is not only "I am green checked, get lost," she is displaying not any shred of doubt about "follow the mech, this is the way."

Yes, following the mech guarantees her survival...but if she was town her survival wouldn't equate to her wincon...that mindset it wolf.

Also, and maybe this is nutso, why is she alive being green peeked and all?

Her role is worse than our other green peek.

yeah, true.

Maybe the right thing to do is stop thinking about mechanics, slog through all the forking posts in the thread, and start just shouting J'Accuse…! at people and see what happens.

you, tim, and hyena are already doing this

J'Accuse…!

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:30 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:53 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:50 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:32 pm tbh the most compelling piece of information that points to tutuu town is the baseball being thrown at her. Why would mafia throw baseballs at their team? I remember having an interaction with ted that shaded tutuu on this

ok, so mafia throws balls yeah? Meaning mafia knows how ball throwing works, yeah? so just telegraph that shit in wolf chat or something. Set it up so that no adverse effects happen, then, when ball flipper flips (if they do) you have a ready made defense of "why would mafia throw ball at mafia?"

But that would be a waste of ability usage

Read Sloonei's flip...if you got that role would you seriously think you could keep throwing pitches to someone long enough to get the kill...at one pitch per night? You gotta live long enough...and so do they...so you can't even use it on someone that you really want to get rid of...you just mischop or NK them. Misdirection might be the best use of that power, and it most certainly isn't a bad use.

If you're trying to pocket me it's working

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:28 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:27 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:26 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:44 pm tutuun is still probably good? the kind of power that would make my kill go through, but not my other thing isn't yet accounted for right?

I really don't like the way she goes straight to "I am green peeked and above all doubt." Like, everyone in the game that I really think is town is starting to have serious "there's fuckery in the mech" doubts. Tutuu is not only "I am green checked, get lost," she is displaying not any shred of doubt about "follow the mech, this is the way."

Yes, following the mech guarantees her survival...but if she was town her survival wouldn't equate to her wincon...that mindset it wolf.

Also, and maybe this is nutso, why is she alive being green peeked and all?

Her role is worse than our other green peek.

yeah, true.

Maybe the right thing to do is stop thinking about mechanics, slog through all the forking posts in the thread, and start just shouting J'Accuse…! at people and see what happens.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:26 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:44 pm tutuun is still probably good? the kind of power that would make my kill go through, but not my other thing isn't yet accounted for right?

I really don't like the way she goes straight to "I am green peeked and above all doubt." Like, everyone in the game that I really think is town is starting to have serious "there's fuckery in the mech" doubts. Tutuu is not only "I am green checked, get lost," she is displaying not any shred of doubt about "follow the mech, this is the way."

Yes, following the mech guarantees her survival...but if she was town her survival wouldn't equate to her wincon...that mindset it wolf.

Also, and maybe this is nutso, why is she alive being green peeked and all?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:24 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:21 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:18 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:13 pm Dizzy is lock town nobody should ever suspect him.

Ok, hypocritically, but why from your point of view?

I can't give away my secret tell ;-)

Spoiler: show

You're town on Tone, attitude, and willingness to directly engage with anyone, at any time, for any question asked.

This is honestly not a good reason to town read me, but werk. =p

Considering the only time I've seen you wolf I caught you b/c of your unwillingness to engage directly I'd say it's at least semi-valid
Now I didn't win that game, or even get a Dizzy chop b/c I was too focused on Hally, but hey lol

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:22 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:32 pm tbh the most compelling piece of information that points to tutuu town is the baseball being thrown at her. Why would mafia throw baseballs at their team? I remember having an interaction with ted that shaded tutuu on this

Because the baseball throw power was weak as hell and never going to work as extra KP for the wolves anyway, so using it as a distancing tool was probably the most Sloonei could find to use it for.

I already said that old man ;-)

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:18 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:13 pm Dizzy is lock town nobody should ever suspect him.

Ok, hypocritically, but why from your point of view?

I can't give away my secret tell ;-)

Dizzy is lock town nobody should ever suspect him.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:18 pm the people who are scumreading me and therefore not believing kyle's mech - why are they not scumreading long con? if i can be mafia why can't LC be mafia?

Mechanically it's possible, I think? I don't think anyone has a cop clear on LC so if that's what you're driving at sure, you can have that one.
Tonally, play wise, and thought process he's been pure of heart, and tone since like forever.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:14 pm @Justplayingitcool what were the mech reasosn to townread hk again? is it because long con tracked him and he visited noone?

hk claimed a role that passively, like. disrupts other who try to mess with him. so if he is mafia and h claimed his real role, long con tracking him to no one is not a valid reason to townread him no?

was there anything else im missing?

You're close, but not close enough.

Here's what I've claimed: I guess, at night, who the next days visible vote leader will be. If I am right I am safe from bad things that effect me.
I'm not told what is bad, and thus far it's never worked b/c I've never guessed properly.
I haven't guessed the last two nights b/c it's kinda pointless.

Being tracked to nobody hard clears me if we think there's one wolf left. If we think there's more than one wolf left it does nothing.
Additionally some people think Sloonei pushing me spews me town.
I have no mechanical reason, outside of LC track, to be considered town. My play is what I have been relying on.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:58 pm This interaction here made me think why tutuu wasn't aligned with ted. I specifically remember Ted shading tutuu for having a ball thrown at her and not getting it again.

Spoiler: show

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:39 am why’s tutuu “spewed” though?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:42 am oh yeah she claimed baseball thrown at her

But then why wouldn’t sloonei target her again if she was actually targeted?

did someone else claim to be thrown a ball after that day?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:50 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:45 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:42 am oh yeah she claimed baseball thrown at her

But then why wouldn’t sloonei target her again if she was actually targeted?

did someone else claim to be thrown a ball after that day?

Not that I know of

suspeeesh Isn’t it?

doesn’t matter rn though, we can’t even vote for her

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:54 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:51 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:50 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:45 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:42 am oh yeah she claimed baseball thrown at her

But then why wouldn’t sloonei target her again if she was actually targeted?

did someone else claim to be thrown a ball after that day?

Not that I know of

suspeeesh Isn’t it?

doesn’t matter rn though, we can’t even vote for her

Not really

he didn’t use it on anybody else though, right?

why not? and especially, why not on her again? from his role description, kp is achieved if you target the same person.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:22 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:21 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:18 pm tutuu vote made por favor

U'll still be my friend if i vote u right?

I get what you're saying. If I were trying to spew a mate town or distance this is approximately how I'd be doing it.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:57 pm HK doing his best to make us believe there's two wolves left: him and Tim

lol whatever

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:56 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:53 pm "you're just wrong so I won't talk to you about your suspicions on me"

this is not what im doing. when questsions are being asked at me i tend to answer them

if u are explaining to me why im mafia there is nothing to answer, i know that you're wrong and im gonig to tell what i know. im taking it very literal. if you want me to answer somethign or do something u will have to actually ask me the question that u want the answer to. "i think ur mafia because i think ur unhelpful" - u are not engaging in a conversation with me by approaching me like that

part of the wolf read I have on you is and always has been your intransigence when asked to work with others. So yeah, I think you're mafia b/c you're unhelpful.
I also think you're mafia b/c you've been coasting on the "green peek" and not doing anything with it.
I also think you're mafia b/c your conclusions don't make sense to me, meaning I don't think they come from town perspective.

Those are my main issues with you. I don't know how better to express them or engage with you on them when you're not willing to participate and when your reads are seemingly tunneled on two or so people you're clearly not re-evaluating or continually evaluating to make sure that you're right.

Like I don't even have to GTH you, I know your wolf reads are Michelle/Tim and I know they've been Michelle/Tim for literally days now. BUT YOU DON'T PUSH THEM. THAT is the key here. You shade, and you talk about how they're obvs wolves but you don't case and you don't push.
All you're really doing is reminding the thread periodically that you wolf read those two players in hopes that it eventually gains traction. That's like "how to wolf 101"

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:53 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:50 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:32 pm tbh the most compelling piece of information that points to tutuu town is the baseball being thrown at her. Why would mafia throw baseballs at their team? I remember having an interaction with ted that shaded tutuu on this

ok, so mafia throws balls yeah? Meaning mafia knows how ball throwing works, yeah? so just telegraph that shit in wolf chat or something. Set it up so that no adverse effects happen, then, when ball flipper flips (if they do) you have a ready made defense of "why would mafia throw ball at mafia?"

But that would be a waste of ability usage

If Tutuu is mafia I would say it's 100% not a waste because look at the conversation we're currently having and look at the times when people said Tutuu can't be a wolf b/c why would mafia throw at themselves, right?
Like if I had an ability like that I may very well "throw-away" a use if I think it would allow townies to semi-clear them later on in the game. Especially b/c if you're repeatedly targeted by the ball thrower it eventually outs you as town when the ball thrower flips mafia. I think it's a role best used to sew dissension and misunderstanding than it is anything else.

Like I'm not trying to be a jerk at all. But the way you're approaching things is "I have said enough words go and read them" or "you're just wrong so I won't talk to you about your suspicions on me" and none of that is helpful or useful.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:49 pm i think tim is mafia and at this point i do not feel like elaborating any more than i already have, i have writtten enough about him. deal with it!

i think Tutuu is mafia and at this point i do not feel like elaborating any more than i already have, i have writtten enough about her. deal with it!....
Do you see how useless that is?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:32 pm tbh the most compelling piece of information that points to tutuu town is the baseball being thrown at her. Why would mafia throw baseballs at their team? I remember having an interaction with ted that shaded tutuu on this

ok, so mafia throws balls yeah? Meaning mafia knows how ball throwing works, yeah? so just telegraph that shit in wolf chat or something. Set it up so that no adverse effects happen, then, when ball flipper flips (if they do) you have a ready made defense of "why would mafia throw ball at mafia?"

My point is this: If you're so peeked town Tutuu, play like it. That doesn't mean brushing off people who suspect you, it means find wolves, use your peeked town clout to force yourself as the next NK. It means do work.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:16 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:15 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:13 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:09 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:57 pm imagine needing to sort a peeked member of the town

Imagine someone peeked town playing this anti-town and then being upset when people wolf read them...

im not playing anti-town, this is your own wrong opinion. ive been heavily contriubing to a ton of stuff

i would argue that wanting to kill members of the town is in fact whats anti-town, so, pot calling kettle black etc

oh look, tutuu calling someone else wrong b/c she doesn't like what they say.
Maybe, instead of just calling people wrong, and complaining you could do town things?

i am calling you wrong because i know for a fact that you're wrong because i know my alignment...

i am doing towny things, i have listed my poe, i give my reads, i have contributed three times more to this game than you have

just because i allow myself from time to time to speak the truth about how wrong people are does not take away from my other contributions

Man if I weren't trying to be polite and respectful you'd have an earful right about now because holy fuck that's some bullshit you just said.

Your entire contribution over the last few days has been to shitpost OR call people wrong for talking about you. Whatever, I'm parked on you. Deal with it.