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wait wth why's he killing marcher and adam

they werent in the popcorn game

wait wth why's he killing marcher and adam

they werent in the popcorn game

Yeah I'm dead soon. Too bad my role won't activate at all :/. It was a fun surprise event though! Last post.

Here's the wolfia replay:

w.replay 262982

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:25 pm Alright, I spent most of the day (when I could) ISO'ing people and making a general read on them. I don't know if its useful, but I felt like doing something instead of being eternally confused by the fast-paced nature of this game sometimes. I didn't get to everyone though, and I gotta go to sleep.

Keep in mind none of these are locked reads. Most unusual/atypical reads are Null.

These are also not detailed ISO’s, I just looked through their iso, and judged as best as I could.

“idk” = I haven’t looked at them recently / haven’t ISO’ed yet
Spoiler: show
112 v-lean
Adam_ null
Apogee v
AWESOM-O “lmao” & “lol”
beeboy scum-lean
cayvie null
ColinIsCool scum-lean
Colonialbob null, maybe scum-lean
DaisyCloud v
DDL v
DrWilgy “Hyena is bad”
Ephemeral null
Epignosis exists in baseball.gif land
Hank scum-lean
Hyena v
Iaafr idk
iwan determined by rule number XXX (On a serious note, v-lean)
Jackofhearts2005 null, maybe v-lean
Jumpluff v
Justplayingitcool v-lean
Logic prefers cliff notes over danganronpa sprites
Long Con null
Maple idk, v for now because I heard supposed mech clear
Marcher Jovian v for now
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME stump
Nutella v
Poison Chan v
polypies73 scum-lean
PunchyTheCat idk but v for now
sabie12 null
sheepsaysmeep null
Shizune “I’m at work right now”
Silverkeith Triggers my AdGuard’s Spanish filter (On a more serious note, v)
Sloonei Always has a plan. Always. :FEB: (On a more serious note, v-lean)
speedchuck Goose.
Sprityo v
Tedxtr v
TenThousandCalories “what is going on” (with them)
ThisIsNotAceMarvel v
Timsup2nothin prob v, but idk
Urist v
WerewolfHunter lean-v
xalt v
Unfortunately that was all I could get through today. I think I am among the more passive power roles (though I do have a potentially good circumstantial ability), however I won't be able to use it if you decide to eliminate me today. But perhaps its better for me to be yeeted early on because with my inexperience or incompatibility with this mode I won't be able to do much. Heck, maybe my reads are wrong. These are my final two votes:

[VOTE: polypies73] aubergine
[VOTE: Hank] aubergine

Anyways, good night, and good luck.

Oh, and one final note: I notified Mac much earlier that he hasn't updated p#2 to reflect Rej's death --- and it still hasn't been updated. Is there some sort of revival mechanic or did Rej die in a bastard manner?

Wait polypies isn't voteable, I guess ignore that. I don't have time to think about another vote.

Alright, I spent most of the day (when I could) ISO'ing people and making a general read on them. I don't know if its useful, but I felt like doing something instead of being eternally confused by the fast-paced nature of this game sometimes. I didn't get to everyone though, and I gotta go to sleep.

Keep in mind none of these are locked reads. Most unusual/atypical reads are Null.

These are also not detailed ISO’s, I just looked through their iso, and judged as best as I could.

“idk” = I haven’t looked at them recently / haven’t ISO’ed yet

Spoiler: show

Unfortunately that was all I could get through today. I think I am among the more passive power roles (though I do have a potentially good circumstantial ability), however I won't be able to use it if you decide to eliminate me today. But perhaps its better for me to be yeeted early on because with my inexperience or incompatibility with this mode I won't be able to do much. Heck, maybe my reads are wrong. These are my final two votes:

[VOTE: polypies73] aubergine
[VOTE: Hank] aubergine

Anyways, good night, and good luck.

Oh, and one final note: I notified Mac much earlier that he hasn't updated p#2 to reflect Rej's death --- and it still hasn't been updated. Is there some sort of revival mechanic or did Rej die in a bastard manner?

I just realized, dunno if anyone said it before, but,

Hot take: Reason why Mac mentioned the # of mafia is because one or more are lone wolves

^We might want to take that in mind for some cases if its true^

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:55 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:54 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:50 pm Uhh I'm assuming I have nothing to respond to here?
Nope. I just thought it may be polite to @ mention you since it may be relevant to you, since you @ mentioned me with a response.
Oh no no, always @ me. Even if you are cursing me or praying for me. It's easy to find. I'm sort of a lazy person you know.

Also I'm a she.

Sorry about that! I'm usually trying to replace my words with "they", or "she" (if applicable), and it seems I forgot to do that this time :<
Same goes for replacing "lynch" with "eliminate" or "yeet", I might unintentionally say "lynch" because I was in a different form of Mafia that was played in Starcraft II and had much quicker games (up to 30 mins) and etc.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:50 pm Uhh I'm assuming I have nothing to respond to here?

Nope. I just thought it may be polite to @ mention you since it may be relevant to you, since you @ mentioned me with a response.

Erm I meant to [mention]Hank[/mention] in my last post. The @ didn't work.

Spoiler: show

[mention]Poison Chan[/mention]

Okay. I think they're perfectly acceptable reasons. I'm giving a response to each of them here:

Spoiler: show

As I said, the only points in there were my only issues. I don't like that one of yall have to die (Hank + Poison Chan). I'm bit indecisive at the moment for most people. I'll vote hank on a basis of "who may have more utility in the long run", and I don't think Hank is going have any long-game utility or content if he tunnels on you or other people like he did today. Once again, this is a relative determination, not whether I think you're both town or not.

Moving my single vote in accordance, unless @Hank has something to say that hasn't been discussed already?

[VOTE: Hank] aubergine

I'm back.

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:35 pm
beeboy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:34 pm Anyone have any sick read cliffs they want to give me.
Talking about ITAs and roles is incredibly lame.
hot take: martin has no votes on him because he is mafia

That was kinda what I was implying with my Ephemeral question earlier. It bothers me that there haven't been any votes at all on me. Not even pressure votes.

Gonna head out for some lunch. Might not be back for about an hour.

So, I looked through Poison's ISO, and here are most of my thoughts on him, or at least on things that are or may be AI.

Spoiler: show

One of the things I'm wondering is why he choose Tim over Maple when he said this earlier:

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:51 am I'm probably shooting Tim/maple in the next ITA.

(Big quote below)

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Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:27 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:46 am
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:45 am
PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:55 pm ITA2 Spicy Shots
Urist - Rej - [/color]HIT, Town Doctor/Vig thing (cool role)
Poison - Timsup2nothin - MISS
iaafr - motel room - HIT, Town Odd Night Somewhat Guilty Vigilante
WerewolfHunter - Xalt - MISS
MartinGG99 - Exalt - HIT, Town Role Cop?
DaisyCloud - funnygirl55 - HIT, Mafia Mikey Sub Out Traveller Thing
Marcher Jovian - sprityo - MISS
Long Con - NANOOK - Refunded/failed
jumpluff - Long Con - MISS
SilverKeith - Ephemeral - MISS
Adam - AWESOME-O - MISS

there's 5+ wolves in this
Ok so this. Urist was bad to randomly shoot rej out of nowhere will iso him then Martin maybe.

@jumpluff why long con?

Also I would like to iso Adam later.
The thing that is bad about Urist's shot is that he hit a townie. Bad luck that with (probably) shots that were on wolves missing the shot that hits was that one...but the fact that it hit doesn't automatically make it more wolfy than any other shot targeting a townie.

Yours, for example.

I understand that the only person that knows I am a townie is me. But the town makes a shot list and a veto list for a reason. It keeps wolves from being able to just plink away as they see fit because we know that their preference is going to be to shoot townies. By ignoring the lists a townie provides cover for wolves. So in that regard Urist's shot, while having unfortunate results, was not as "bad" as yours.

I shot at you specifically because you committed ahead of time that you were going to take a bad shot and nothing snort of killing you was going to stop you.

So here's the thing...I don't like Hank's role. If he is a wolf he is always going to target town, and maybe he already has. If he is town he doesn't seem to be following the game closely enough to make good choices consistently. Either way I am unlikely to cry over his demise.

However, I shot at you for a good reason, so I can't pretend that I would cry over your demise either. Unless...you get it. Show me that you understand the point of the lists, and agree to abide by them. I'm always gonna say wolfy shit anyway, so chances are good that if I live very long I'll wind up on the shot list and you can shoot at me then and feel good about it. But the town can't allow hero shotting townies that give cover to wolves.

Okay?

@Poison Chan
I'm really very sorry sir, and tbh, even if you shoot me again or make others shoot me I won't be following any lists which are made by unknown alignments cause nothing and no one is spewed town yet and it's day 1 and I don't trust those whom you have taken for a fact are TOWN, again.

The thing is, Idc about the list, in that list I'm boldly predicting at least 2-3 wolves are there . So if you really think I would be laying low for the sake of surviving a little more by listening to those blindly instead of scum hunting based on my reads and assumptions and intuitions then you are wrong.

The fact you have consistently said opposite about almost all my scum reads till now is concerning.

also, you don't have to cry over my demise, my ability flip would bring drama in your life.

He states early on with his plan to shoot Maple or Tim, but decides to go after Tim despite the fact that Maple was creating a veto list that included Tim in it? Why didn't he shoot Maple, especially if he were "boldly predicting" 2-3 wolves were in it?

Other than this, most of his other posts I don't feel particularly scummy or towny about.

His reactions to the first ITA window seemed a bit meme-y or silly and wanting to see "spicy" (If I'm using the term right?) things, at least from my PoV. His interactions on the 2nd ITA window seemed to be because of the first, so I'm not sure if I can call it scummy or suspicious that he acted a bit differently in comparison to the 1st and 2nd windows.

Spoiler: show

Also, in light of the Hank + Poison fight situation, I'm leaning towards Poison being thrown out if possible. I looked at Hank and I don't have any objections or negative thoughts about him so far. If mafia wanted to get rid of Poison Chan I feel they would've tried to wait and check out other routes to do that rather than just use a potentially back-firing ability before the first 24 hours of the game.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:35 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:23 am Can anybody explain to me why ephemeral has 7 votes on him? Last night he had 10 but I didn't have enough time to figure out why when I looked at the ISO, and due to a lack of time.
Personally I would've labelled him as NAI (to be determined) last night becuase I felt it wasn't exactly towny or scummy.

Is there something about mashes/rolemadness that I should be looking for in scum that is unique to large role-madness games?
He was suggested as a somewhat consensus killable person before the ITAs and was still alive at the end so I parked a vote there. On a day one I will generally try to find some sort of consensus, myself, because I try to avoid letting my knee jerk "oh look a wolf!!!" imagination drive serious consequences if I can avoid it. ITAs are kind of forcing.

By EoD I will have either found a better place for that vote or will have found a better reason to keep it there.

----------------------------------Unrelated

I'm trying to sort out how to react to your shot on Exalt.

If I take "didn't see on list" at face value then that eliminates having to choose between "bad town gives wolves cover" v "just a wolf hiding as a bad town." I am inclined to go that way, but that leads to "okay, were you town in the first place when I set that aside?"

To answer that I need to know...why Exalt? What has the basis for picking him?

To be honest, when I read the OP saying that all roles will have some sort of power, I thought all mafia were going to have powers or power roles that they could claim. No mafia goons.

So I thought that If I couldn't really decide anyone who was active in the thread as scummy before ITA's open, I should try to go for one of the low-posters since I thought that low-posting isn't exactly excusable even if a power role since technically we're all power roles. And heck, Daisy turned out to be right with her shot on the mafia who had only a single post (although I think my shot was done before that?).

That doesn't justify that I completely missed "Exalt" in the veto list, and nothing else will. I was eager to try and participate in the ITA's though, given that I read the MU articles before and and one of them had a theory or school of thought that said you should participate in ITA's as much as possible because there will only be 15-25% mafia in the group, and therefore much of the KP is in villager hands. I think I may have stressed on trying to think about ITA's too much.

Can anybody explain to me why ephemeral has 7 votes on him? Last night he had 10 but I didn't have enough time to figure out why when I looked at the ISO, and due to a lack of time.
Personally I would've labelled him as NAI (to be determined) last night becuase I felt it wasn't exactly towny or scummy.

Is there something about mashes/rolemadness that I should be looking for in scum that is unique to large role-madness games?

Okay, I'm back.

Spoiler: show

First off, I want to discuss yesterday regarding me.

As much as I tried to prepare myself for this game, to try and take it "cool" in knowing this is a for-fun game, I still somehow managed to take it seriously in strange ways that really stressed me out. Said stress (Probably, but I can't say for certain) led to making ridiculous mistakes, such as checking the ITA veto list and completely missing "Exalt" but seeing "Xalt" in that list. Also, as Jumpluff and others pointed out, there was some preety obvious dissonance in what I was doing/saying (just take a quick look at my iso), and I can only explain that as a result of my stress. Among other things, this is a game completely different from other FM's that I've tried before (the biggest one I've had was only 17 players).

This is only my best explanation I have so far, and I may be wrong in that explanation. I do know though, that something was "off" about me yesterday, especially towards the end of it.

I would like to apologize to [mention]Exalt[/mention] publicly for my mistake yesterday that led to his death, and to everyone else here if my previous actions will (inevitably) cause parts of this game to be perceived as sour or otherwise negatively.

I also completely understand that if you (general "you") view this as a scummy message, and won't blame you for it. Everyone has to deal with the consequences of their actions to some degree, and that should include me, no matter the circumstances regarding it. At the very least I can hope to learn from this in the future.

If you do somehow view me as town though, I hope you can bear with me as I try to learn and adapt to this environment in a way that's best for us all, and fun. One of the things I'm going to start doing is to try and to listen to enjoyable, more calming music while I'm itt, clearly I wasn't able to handle myself very well and its my hope that music (Such as The Redwoods by David Micheal Tardy) will help me take this game in an appropriate manner.

I would also like to thank [mention]jumpluff[/mention] for their well-wish that I sleep well (and to mention them since this message may be of interest to them). Also LOL to the bunny gif they assigned me in #3503.

I swore I only saw "Xalt" on the veto list, not "Exalt", though I will admit that upon checking in the Maple ISO there was "Exalt"

I need to de-stress then sleep. Please ping me with anything regarding me.

I'll be up around 10am EDT.

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:55 pm ITA2 Spicy Shots
Urist - Rej - [/color]HIT, Town Doctor/Vig thing (cool role)
Poison - Timsup2nothin - MISS
iaafr - motel room - HIT, Town Odd Night Somewhat Guilty Vigilante
WerewolfHunter - Xalt - MISS
MartinGG99 - Exalt - HIT, Town Role Cop?
DaisyCloud - funnygirl55 - HIT, Mafia Mikey Sub Out Traveller Thing
Marcher Jovian - sprityo - MISS
Long Con - NANOOK - Refunded/failed
jumpluff - Long Con - MISS
SilverKeith - Ephemeral - MISS
Adam - AWESOME-O - MISS

there's 5+ wolves in this

Look, I don't really think who shoots, so long as its not on the veto list, is AI tbh.

One of the things I feel some people are forgetting as of the past hour or two is that this is a game for fun, mostly.

Assuming I've been paying attention, nobody knew about the d1-only ITA's until this game started.

Its possible he thought of the ITA events after distributing the roles, in order to make the game more fun for people. After all, he did mention possibly passive roles in the thread OP if I recall correctly.

Personally, I don't like how it turned out, but maybe that's because I'm approaching this a little bit too seriously despite knowing this is supposed to be a "for fun" game.

I'm kinda struggling here to speak out here tbh because it feels like there's 50-ish pairs of eyes on me.

My point is, though, sometimes people will do or say things because they are people, and that this is a more "for fun" game.

Not because of their alignment.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:17 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:16 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:08 pm Bothers me that their name is similar to "xalt", has 2 votes on people, and only 1 post here.

ITA = Exalt
HIT
Exalt has died.

Spoiler: show
Exalt was George A Tsoukalos. Each night you may target a player. If that player is of supernatural origins you will discover their role.

Town.

Welp I just served myself on the future chopping block. Not what I wanted. >.<

jumpluff wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:08 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:08 pm Bothers me that their name is similar to "xalt", has 2 votes on people, and only 1 post here.

ITA = Exalt
we need :fry: here for this reason

Well, while I am new to mashes, I have read the MU articles. I should participate because I am of the town alignment.

It also said to post often, but I just don't have the capacity to be here all the time.

Besides, this game is too intimidating for me to post often in.

I'm not funny nor do I joke often, so I feel like my overly serious demeanor (thats usually present in normal games) would be attacked

Bothers me that their name is similar to "xalt", has 2 votes on people, and only 1 post here.

ITA = Exalt

jumpluff wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:10 pm ok im gonna run a lil exercise we do on my home forum if there's anyone currently in the thread

i call it BTH or Bun to Head reads

how it works is, answer these 2 questions.

1) if you had a pet rabbit, which player in this mash would you name it after?
2) is that player town? you have 3 possible responses to this question: YES, NO, BUNBUN

this is a serious exercise and i will be reading most of this game according to responses

1) Apogee
2) YES (if not then BUNBUN)

from my PoV Apogee would be a good bunny name out of the selection here

AWESOM-O wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:05 pm why are there people that are typing in the game thread but not on the checklist at the top

Because #399. Also someone is a stump and is therefore unyeetable and immune to being thrown into the sun.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:49 pm But that's alright, We're all hear to have a great time right? I'll catch up right now. We're gonna have fun with this game and roleplay the whole time, yeah?

I don't think some of us here can RP their characters. For example, a RP would require the stump (if actually a stump) to not say/post anything and then eventually be attacked by Macdougall's mod kill (idk if they're mod kill immune tho...)

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:34 pm It’s cute that you think you can read me, it really is

I also don’t need to be “activated” I’m already a stump kek

If you want to hold me responsible for my reads that’s fine, kill who I say to and blame me if I’m wrong, idc

I literally cannot die, sheep can check me tonight and confirm me, I’m gonna be here all game

Are stumps not allowed to vote here, or can they?

I mean, would they matter in a end-game/win-con parity sense?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:16 pm Did the thread just die for an hour in a game with 52 people?

I guess we all must have night abilities we're itching to use or something similar.

Okay wth I wasn't getting new posts for an hour untill I posted something

Did the thread just die for an hour in a game with 52 people?

I guess we all must have night abilities we're itching to use or something similar.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:35 am Do we have too many players to fit on a poll?

oh if you haven't heard Mac made some people elimination-immune for day 1 (see #399)

To be fair though, that list was started on iaffr's

so what are the other three trying to do?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:29 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:29 am
sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:28 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:28 am

Alright, after the open-bunny list was created (see spoiler)

Spoiler: show

these people in the quote above decided to open

:

Jpic
Long Con
sheepsaysmeep
iaafr

I wonder what iaafr is doing in both of these lists

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:15 am Hard tacos are too messy. Will honk for soft tacos.

Oddly enough I prefer hard tacos if they're homemade

But I prefer soft tacos if they're not form home

I have no clue why I ended up on the universe's "Lets troll this shit" list

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:07 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:05 am Also hello to everyone!

I'm a newbie here, and this is my first rolemadness mash u-pick whatchamacallit, I've only begun playing about a month and a half ago in Forum Mafia.

If you need elaboration on my experience so far please ask me to clarify, otherwise I'm not sure if that would be useful given the distinctly different environment here
What is the context that lead you to look out for hydras of all things in a game like this.

I'm curious.

What is the sad backstory here. Did a hydra destroy your village when you were a kid?

I quite like making jokes out of people's gifs that may imply that they're hydra or breaking the rules. Last time I did it was to a player on MU called "GreenCatKid" who posts gifs with cats occasionally and one time he posted a gif with two cats reacting at the same time.

Also my homesite "SC2Mafia" supposedly bans the word Hyrda and replaces it with Archon/Hybrid (Starcraft II themed stuffs)

Also if there is a bunny bloc, a cat bloc, and whatever addtional blocs to form, I would choose cats because having possibly 2 players to post on one account is an obvious advantage

Also hello to everyone!

I'm a newbie here, and this is my first rolemadness mash u-pick whatchamacallit, I've only begun playing about a month and a half ago in Forum Mafia.

If you need elaboration on my experience so far please ask me to clarify, otherwise I'm not sure if that would be useful given the distinctly different environment here

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:30 am Mafia (There are 11 members of the Mafia)

^^This is neat information but I'm not sure to trust it since he is one of the people who have open-bunnied so far and I'm not sure if I like that:

Trustworthy Liberal #92
jumpluff #91 (among many other #'s)
Macdougal #93
iaafr #168
tedxtr #392 (soft bunny via Bugs Bunny)

Also Urist's profile gif may imply being a hydra:

[VOTE: Urist] aubergine

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