The Syndicate

Thanks guys!

*you played really good

I avoid phone posting on forums so much that i basically never do it, but i may have to force myself to do that. Otherwise the long hours im away from thread could end with me getting flipped agian haha.

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Hi Hally! You played really imo

I was displeased with my play failing to convince anybody of my towniness. I will have to find a way to pick up the pace next time.

chardonnay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:03 am
Tbh thinking about the game while showering I feel more and more like Mac is just town. I Feel less tinfoilly about Hally's motives as well.

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Binary read list:

1612
MacDougall

Hally

----null line---
tutuu
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
cassowary

tedxtr
Long Con

At least my reads were actully good this game.

Yayyyy, a town win. Even if its by mech error lol. I take those.

Looking forward to seeing how Cassowary, and Nanook interact with the thread tomorrow.

So heres hoping to that happening in a meaningful capacity.

GN for real now

Note: I work 2nd shift EST so i normally am not around for EoDs

I will come back in the morning before i go to work to check on things and change my vote if needed. GN folks

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:10 pm i guess a better way to word this is:

im sort of familiar with macdougall's personality at this point, from having played multiple games with him and seeing him as both alignmetns, and i guess for some reasons i believe i can "sense" him and my "senses" tell me he is town. whether or not my senses are full of shit is up to debate!

its really not something u can put to words. im sorry, i know this sucks for u as a player who hasnt played that many games with us, i hope u dont feel like an outsider or something, but, its just the truth about how i feel!

Thank you.

Tbh thinking about the game while showering I feel more and more like Mac is just town. I Feel less tinfoilly about Hally's motives as well.

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Binary read list:

1612
MacDougall

Hally

----null line---
tutuu
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
cassowary

tedxtr
Long Con

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:28 pm

chardonnay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:42 pm People who are town reading Mac, can you explain how you do that?

He has reads and makes pushes, but so far (Im on page 6) Idk what his thought process is, and i feel like He'll meme on me if I poke him about it.

well thats exactly why iw anna townread him LOL

you TR him b/c of his having reads, and pushes?

Or b/c he'll meme on you if you push him too hard for info? or both?

I guess so! o.o

I was hoping to see if this level of forward bubbly positivity is something consistent between your alignments

holy crap! Has Tutuu really has never randed mafia on these forums? :0

I peeked through her completed games and it looks like shes town in all of them!

[mention]tutuu[/mention]
Have you any offsite completed scum games I could look though?

tutuu never physically being able to rand mafia sounds like some kinda witch craft lol

I guess Nanook does have SR's via PoE

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:02 am Idek who’s left to be mafia, LC/cass/alison? Sure that works

tell me more about these guys when you came back please

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I like Hally exploring the same avenues as me. Tho i feel like it was pretty telegraphed what direction I was thinking to go with after my catch up. So im not above thinking scum!Hally read into that to appear to be on my side.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:50 pm I love wine. Too much. But not white.

I want to see you talk about Ted... a TEDx talk, if you will.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:53 pm also prefer red over white

smh at your guys. White wines great.

[mention]MacDougall[/mention]

OH BTW!!!

I am displeased that a drinking man like you had nothing to say about my username last night.

What, have something against wine???

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ALso How do you know Ted is "bad town" rather then mafia this game?

Cassowary is null for me, but I can probably sort them with more some time and content.

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Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:19 pm

chardonnay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:16 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:02 pm i wouldn’t even clear mac if lc flips scum. kinda mindmelded with teds comment that mac could be pocketing alison by bussing lc. he can and will bus as scum on D1, js

looks like Ted's comments about Mac bussing are the foundian of your read.

Was hoping for something more nuanced.

not really sure where your slot goes rn.

well tbf there’s hardly any AI content from anyone so it’s a bit hard to have nuanced reads

Youre not wroung.

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I think I'll try comparing and contrasting some players since i have a lot of muttled null reads rn

Im curous about what to do about Nanook b/c he's the only person this game that is strongly opposed to flipping me and my gut wants to TR the conterian read. Yet I don't think he has done anything else this me that stood out to me. Its easy to point at a slot and say its town. Its harder to deconstruct a popular read on another player, or to start a new wagon elsewhere. Scum are fine doing easy work in day thread, not so keen about hard work.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:02 pm i wouldn’t even clear mac if lc flips scum. kinda mindmelded with teds comment that mac could be pocketing alison by bussing lc. he can and will bus as scum on D1, js

looks like Ted's comments about Mac bussing are the foundian of your read.

Was hoping for something more nuanced.

not really sure where your slot goes rn.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:44 pm Well

Let me try but no promise

I thought LC town for attitude. He joked with everyone and responded appropriately when scumread and i dunno. Same reason i tr mac (except less confident cuz yall scumread lc). I just read LC's posts and i think "iight cool"

I guess cass cuz i dont got anyone left to scumread. And he came in and like "this scumread guty is scummy i guess" and dunno. Maybe he write more stuff and then we see

And chardo like. I guess just dont townread him. A big thing is that i dunno these 2 peeps. I cant rly accurately read someone ive never played with before uknow

It sounds like you are afraid to go after the people who are more familiar with how you play :/

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Thanks LC,

I'll answer that twisty question I was gonna ignore. what i meant by scum dont lie on purpose is that in thread interaction- scum purposely claiming something happened that can be proven false just by fact checking is not something any player intentionally does as any alignment. your comment about alison said that she was intentionally ignoring public facts to push an agenda. Which imo doesnt happen

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:00 pm ted probably town because why not

alison town because town

tutuu could be town, not sold yet

mac isn’t out of scum range at all. kinda meh

nanook is nanook, who knows

chard null imo, kinda awkward but doesn’t scream mafia to me atm

cass MIA

If you haven't already, come talk to me about Ted town read?

He came in at optimal time to push me as scum. Do you agree?

also talk to me about Tutuu and mac as well if you can.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:39 pm

chardonnay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:24 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:45 am

chardonnay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:11 pm Im interested to see where Alison's experimental methodology leads.

How seriously do you take that?

I like seeing people try new things. Alison based off last game is a serous poster, so seeing her attempt a more intuitive style would be interesting imo.

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Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:06 am

chardonnay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:08 am @tutuu I think the issue with the conflict is that its not really helping the game at hand? This seems like a world veiw battle, not a alignment battle. Unless you have a read on alison?

maybe you could talk to me about somebody else on the roster if you want?

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Hi MacDougall, I actully did manage to break up a T V T as mafia once and got lots of town cred D1. Alas it didnt last and i was on the chopping block D2.

May i ask for a succinct description of your playstyle?

Weird vibes.

Why is it weird vibes?

Weird as in robotic and generic.

I make a habit of asking players who i think I'll struggle to get a read on long term how they approach the game early on. That way i can avoid making a dumb case for one alignment or the other.

Also why did you make these posts questioning my opening posts? I voted you. I feel like if you were reading the game as closely as you were trying to appear to you'd have something to say about that as well.

I am reading the game, and so I know that several people have called out your sketchy sheepvote already.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:00 am Obviously you're missing those things on purpose in order to build a big false narrative about me blah blah blah you are probscum as well gg.

I really hope this point about alison's slot is a joke or something lol

I cant think of a game where scum lies on purpose about who has posted what in the thread in the early game. Even more so coming from somebody as tidy as Alison

I don't really get your last point. You don't think scum lies on purpose? Do you think town lies on purpose? What exactly is "lying on purpose"? Is there accidental lying?

How can i sheep onto your wagon if im the first person who voted there?

So was that post adderessed to Alison about her intentionally lying a real take, or a joke?

Your questions in response look like sematics tbh

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You first post was scummy b/c it looked like you were trying too hard to be funny. Its as simple as that.

People who are town reading Mac, can you explain how you do that?

He has reads and makes pushes, but so far (Im on page 6) Idk what his thought process is, and i feel like He'll meme on me if I poke him about it.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:14 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:12 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:08 am I'm not even gonna bother with Mac for now because I have nothing on the guy, just that he's underwhelming

but the assessment of "his pushes were good" when he commented on LC's catchup doesn't seem quite correct, and he's def not town for it

I mean I have the same assessment on LC's catchup so not really sure what other reaction you expect me to have other than "this push is good" when I see him saying the same thing

you can have your takes, but they're still incorrect

especially because Mac likes to pocket people, and mindmelding is probably the easiest tool to do it

okkkayy, I was kinda getting the vibe last page since some of the back and forth was punctuated jokey stuff that your ead there wasnt very serous. But since you are bringing it up agian I am curious the extent Mac is scum to you?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:46 am

chardonnay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:50 pm I look forward to Ob!towning the daylights out of you later then

what does this mean?

It means my green shows stronger the longer the game goes on.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:00 am

chardonnay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:52 am Ehh, I feel like maybe my first impression paranoia of Tutuu is non-ai for her.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

How did you come to that assessment?

Also, I don't remember you mentioning LC, can you expound on that?

LC's opener was among the least town looking. So I voted to see how he/others would react since I didn't really have any SRs in the players posting in that moment in time.

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Despite having posts and reads out I feel like Ted makes a lot of sense as scum taking advantage of the groundwork town Alison put down.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:28 am I can see you being right about no relevant reads and the handling of you, but I'm not anywhere near as confident in that over chardonnay at the moment.

also chard's vote there was a throw-away vote, so that may tint my read.

He puts a vote out on me then later acts like hes really thinking about it. It makes more sense that he sees descides to SR me from the start when he saw Alison, and Mac were ontop of me.

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Hally early game looks less good on coming back. Kinda feels like besides TuTuu TR shes not done much.

Mac/tutuu is IDK

LC/Tedxter is probably scum. Not necessarily together though.

I've finsihed page 5. I'll try to go faster now.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:45 am

chardonnay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:11 pm Im interested to see where Alison's experimental methodology leads.

How seriously do you take that?

I like seeing people try new things. Alison based off last game is a serous poster, so seeing her attempt a more intuitive style would be interesting imo.

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Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:06 am

chardonnay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:08 am @tutuu I think the issue with the conflict is that its not really helping the game at hand? This seems like a world veiw battle, not a alignment battle. Unless you have a read on alison?

maybe you could talk to me about somebody else on the roster if you want?

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Hi MacDougall, I actully did manage to break up a T V T as mafia once and got lots of town cred D1. Alas it didnt last and i was on the chopping block D2.

May i ask for a succinct description of your playstyle?

Weird vibes.

Why is it weird vibes?

I make a habit of asking players who i think I'll struggle to get a read on long term how they approach the game early on. That way i can avoid making a dumb case for one alignment or the other.

Also why did you make these posts questioning my opening posts? I voted you. I feel like if you were reading the game as closely as you were trying to appear to you'd have something to say about that as well.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:00 am Obviously you're missing those things on purpose in order to build a big false narrative about me blah blah blah you are probscum as well gg.

I really hope this point about alison's slot is a joke or something lol

I cant think of a game where scum lies on purpose about who has posted what in the thread in the early game. Even more so coming from somebody as tidy as Alison

Catching up now

Ehh, I feel like maybe my first impression paranoia of Tutuu is non-ai for her.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

actually it looks like some kinda exclipedia snippet

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:39 am

chardonnay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:38 am Tutuu whats your thoughts on the game outside of Alison?

mac and hally town and nanook scum but these are silly one-post reads that dont matter much

i havent thought about mac's and hally's later posts since i was preocuppied with other stuff, after i ponder about them i will let u know

thanks, look forward to it!

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Mac pleases tell me thats a copy pasta?! I think my grasp on reality would snap if that was something you at some point in time typed out yourself lol

Tutuu whats your thoughts on the game outside of Alison?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:17 am

chardonnay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:08 am @tutuu I think the issue with the conflict is that its not really helping the game at hand? This seems like a world veiw battle, not a alignment battle. Unless you have a read on alison?

maybe you could talk to me about somebody else on the roster if you want?

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Hi MacDougall, I actully did manage to break up a T V T as mafia once and got lots of town cred D1. Alas it didnt last and i was on the chopping block D2.

May i ask for a succinct description of your playstyle?

why did you ask mac this? what prompted this question and what are you expecting to gain from it?

I was curious if he was a "goofball" style player with all the jokes and gifs, or if that just his early game routine.

There are certain player types that i struggle to get reliable reads on. Funny, charismatic people are one of them.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:19 am I didn't even notice the question but succinctly, I am a level 4 player and easily the best and most complete mafia player you have ever encountered. You should be thrilled to receive the lessons you are about to receive.

Whats lesson 1?

[mention]tutuu[/mention] I think the issue with the conflict is that its not really helping the game at hand? This seems like a world veiw battle, not a alignment battle. Unless you have a read on alison?

maybe you could talk to me about somebody else on the roster if you want?

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Hi MacDougall, I actully did manage to break up a T V T as mafia once and got lots of town cred D1. Alas it didnt last and i was on the chopping block D2.

May i ask for a succinct description of your playstyle?

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:55 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:53 pm

chardonnay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:50 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:34 pm I mean I was serious when I said I won't tolerate your behavior past page 5

also everyone should vote chardonnay because everything they've done and said has been incredibly forced, awkward and hedgey

I look forward to Ob!towning the daylights out of you later then

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I am town reading Alison.

I like Hally trying to break up Alison and Tutuu. Not strong town points, but better then nothing.

hally's behavior is NAI.

true. conflict just makes me ill

Good to know. I guess im used to other sites where scum chill when infighting happens. I wouldn't expect scum to break upa theoretical town v Town Alison tuutu

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:34 pm I mean I was serious when I said I won't tolerate your behavior past page 5

also everyone should vote chardonnay because everything they've done and said has been incredibly forced, awkward and hedgey

I look forward to Ob!towning the daylights out of you later then

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I am town reading Alison.

I like Hally trying to break up Alison and Tutuu. Not strong town points, but better then nothing.

I like Alison taking the incentive to start moving the game out of the early stages with a more serous push.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:38 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:58 pm wow, you’re so helpful

so who is your teammate?

i dont wish to say their name because i dont know if i can actually spin a defense for myself post-game that this wasnt an actual gamethrow and it was instead a "strategy"

im already walking on thin ice as it is

The thing about Tutuu is that i was brushing it off as silly early game play until she wasnt willing to out a buddy. I feel like town would jokingly come up with somebody they feel could play off of them, where as scum would be more afraid to out a buddy really or fake b/c the back fire is worse.

Mmm, i dont think this methodology is looking too good Alison. You've already gotten at least one read wrong.

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Hi tutuu, Idk what the toughest thing ive done is. its not an easily quantifiable thing, and I guess any number of things i've done would be seen as tough or lame depending on PoV and context.

What made you decide to go with the opener you had this game?

Tutuu is scary RN

Im interested to see where Alison's experimental methodology leads.

Hi too everybody else!