The Syndicate

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:05 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:03 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:02 pm well i kinda doubt falcon will flip wolf but uh

maybe don’t self vote at EoD next time regardless
Wolfy
you’re dead. stop posting
Nobody has told me I'm dead yet.
the poll ended and you have the most votes. you got eliminated. please stop posting

I'll wait for the host to make it official, if that's ok with you.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:06 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:03 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:02 pm well i kinda doubt falcon will flip wolf but uh

maybe don’t self vote at EoD next time regardless
Wolfy
you’re dead. stop posting
Is he actually dead until the host posts? I always thought that was the cutoff

She wants to silence my truth

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:03 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:02 pm well i kinda doubt falcon will flip wolf but uh

maybe don’t self vote at EoD next time regardless
Wolfy
you’re dead. stop posting

Nobody has told me I'm dead yet.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:56 pm i do not understand why falcon is self-voting as either alignment. i am baffled.

I am an enigma wrapped in a Glad Garbage Bag

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:59 pm I think km going falcon lord save me

Towny

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:02 pm well i kinda doubt falcon will flip wolf but uh

maybe don’t self vote at EoD next time regardless

Wolfy

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:54 pm k I'm voting Falcon does anyone have a better plan

Wolfy

I'm town

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:47 pm falcon45ca
3
14%
Voters: Long Con, staypositivefriend, falcon45ca

? @falcon45ca why the self vote?

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:31 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:24 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:22 pm can falcon acknowledge the fact that michelle's red check on alison is not actually a red check in his next post? if he doesn't then i'm going to assume that he's playing today in bad faith
I concede that it is possible that Michelle's red check is not actually a red check.

Can you admit that it could be a red check for realz?
if it could be real and it could be fake, why do you care about it?

It could be a real red check...why do I care about it....

OK, I'm done.

[VOTE: VOTE FALCON] aubergine

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:22 pm can falcon acknowledge the fact that michelle's red check on alison is not actually a red check in his next post? if he doesn't then i'm going to assume that he's playing today in bad faith

I concede that it is possible that Michelle's red check is not actually a red check.

Can you admit that it could be a red check for realz?

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:16 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:07 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:02 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:52 pm why are falcon/jpic town
JPIC idk him and LC can both track...probably 1 wolf in there

Falcon is being weird with his vote again and has an unprovable claim might just be Mafia
Being "weird" is voting red checks, yet believing other player's claims with 0 evidence is A-OK....sure
Yeah and we have 0 evidence to believe Michelle's claim, or your claim
That's why we lynch Michelle if Alison flips green. Pretty sure you know how to handle fake cop claims.
Sounds like you're setting the stage for 2 miselims since you've randomly decided Odd didn't busdrive anyone

Pfffft, that's ridiculous and you know it. I don't plan that far ahead

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:17 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:16 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:07 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:02 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:52 pm why are falcon/jpic town
JPIC idk him and LC can both track...probably 1 wolf in there

Falcon is being weird with his vote again and has an unprovable claim might just be Mafia
Being "weird" is voting red checks, yet believing other player's claims with 0 evidence is A-OK....sure
Yeah and we have 0 evidence to believe Michelle's claim, or your claim
That's why we lynch Michelle if Alison flips green. Pretty sure you know how to handle fake cop claims.
To be fair, that IS ignoring a bunch of mechy things that have been suggested as to why the red check situation exists.

Yes it is. I know 1 surefire way to find out if it was a fake red check, everything else is debate.

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:07 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:02 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:52 pm why are falcon/jpic town
JPIC idk him and LC can both track...probably 1 wolf in there

Falcon is being weird with his vote again and has an unprovable claim might just be Mafia
Being "weird" is voting red checks, yet believing other player's claims with 0 evidence is A-OK....sure
Yeah and we have 0 evidence to believe Michelle's claim, or your claim

That's why we lynch Michelle if Alison flips green. Pretty sure you know how to handle fake cop claims.

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:13 pm how does no one understand this lmao

LC has multiple things he can do. He claimed one of those is he *can* track. He then gave his targets, one of which was n2 Hally. He did not n2 track Hally

@Long Con What you got to say about this?

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:02 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:52 pm why are falcon/jpic town
JPIC idk him and LC can both track...probably 1 wolf in there

Falcon is being weird with his vote again and has an unprovable claim might just be Mafia

Being "weird" is voting red checks, yet believing other player's claims with 0 evidence is A-OK....sure

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:27 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:22 pm I guess I'll be the ole' man on the porch, yellin' at you young whipper snappers & your mechanics, & just do it old skool & lynch a red check
i don’t understand why you keep saying this. odd claimed to busdrive alison so michelle doesn’t actually have a check on alison as far as we know

framing this like “just kill the red check” is extremely simplistic

I think taking Odd at his word is extremely simplistic.

I guess I'll be the ole' man on the porch, yellin' at you young whipper snappers & your mechanics, & just do it old skool & lynch a red check

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:17 pm do you really think a wolf just sits in the thread like “neener neener you can’t kill me!” and pretty much dares people to try to vote them out? that’s just dumb

i think the only way for esooa to be a wolf is if she’s a role like dom’s that has multiple lives

otherwise she just is what she says she is, and i believe that’s the case because of how she claimed and how she tried to give cover by saying she’d protect michelle (WHICH THE WOLVES CLEARLY BELIEVED OR ELSE MICHELLE WOULD BE DEAD) and how her claim makes perfect sense with her flavor

Look at the bright side, if we lynch Esooa & she's telling the truth, we don't lose a TP. If she's lying, we get a wolf. How can we lose???

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:52 pm Lou and Ben are not troopers

Should we start sorting the POE based off character flavours?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:07 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:04 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:03 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:57 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:56 amhow so?
It was on N2 when Odd busdrove sloonei and Alison. So it would of been a red-check on Sloonei, but we know Sloonei was villager cause of his flip.
Wait, so this whole thing is contingent on Odd & Alison telling the truth? Odd, who was cleared by Alison...is there another clear on Odd I'm unaware?
Nope!
Oh FFS, lynch the red check then. Holy hell, I thought we actually had PROOF, not 2 players just saying their cleared by each other.
I think if Michelle were a lying wolf, she would have come up with something easier to swallow than an Alison red check, right?

No doubt, that's a hard push.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:04 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:03 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:57 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:56 amhow so?
It was on N2 when Odd busdrove sloonei and Alison. So it would of been a red-check on Sloonei, but we know Sloonei was villager cause of his flip.
Wait, so this whole thing is contingent on Odd & Alison telling the truth? Odd, who was cleared by Alison...is there another clear on Odd I'm unaware?
Nope!

Oh FFS, lynch the red check then. Holy hell, I thought we actually had PROOF, not 2 players just saying their cleared by each other.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:01 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:00 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:58 am so it's just a framer or what?
Or odd was blocked
Or is on Alison's team.

Doesn't this make the most sense?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:57 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:56 amhow so?
It was on N2 when Odd busdrove sloonei and Alison. So it would of been a red-check on Sloonei, but we know Sloonei was villager cause of his flip.

Wait, so this whole thing is contingent on Odd & Alison telling the truth? Odd, who was cleared by Alison...is there another clear on Odd I'm unaware?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:56 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:54 am I come from a simpler world, where we lynch red checks & sometimes, tho very very rarely, have a naive sheriff.

All this mech action theorizing & shenaniganizing is too big brain for me.

I'm smooth braining this shiz & voting a red check, for the people.
Me too. This game was sending me straight to toon world last night. Luckily I slept off the toons.

Does that mean you're gonna vote the red check? Or where's your head at?

I come from a simpler world, where we lynch red checks & sometimes, tho very very rarely, have a naive sheriff.

All this mech action theorizing & shenaniganizing is too big brain for me.

I'm smooth braining this shiz & voting a red check, for the people.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:18 pm
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:14 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME want to play Portal?

Rules are simple, you shoot me and a scum dies.

But is it a) I'm lying about my abilities

or b) I will swap myself with a scum tonigjt and get the alley oop kill. I line them up and you knock them down
As I may have previously mentioned, I'm not leashing my vig

Vig me plz. My slot seems necessary to solve for many, I'd like it 18 with a bullet style.

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:40 pm Oh holy shit, I think @staypositivefriend just cracked it wide open.

Sloonei chooses a wolf as his security detail.

Oddmerta swaps Sloonei with Alison.

Michelle checks Alison, which is really a check on Sloonei, which is really a check on whatever wolf he chose as security detail.

As fuck-bonkers as it is to say, this kinda makes sense.

That's how you play Mafia on acid

Jesus fuckin Christ. Whatever happened to red checks without 9,000 different mech combinations?

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:07 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:58 pm Are we really debating whether we confirm Michele's red check on Alison by flipping Michele over Alison?
Yes, because there exists a real possibility they're both town.

Why are you suddenly so eager to kill someone and trying to dissuade discussion?
Sounds like a wolfy way to distract from a red check IMO
And your way sounds like a wolfy way to fast-track a town flip. I may be low-energy and confused out of my gourd, but I still wanna win the game.

It's a red peek.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:07 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:58 pm Are we really debating whether we confirm Michele's red check on Alison by flipping Michele over Alison?
Yes, because there exists a real possibility they're both town.

Why are you suddenly so eager to kill someone and trying to dissuade discussion?
Sounds like a wolfy way to distract from a red check IMO
Have you been reading the same thread as me?

Maybe?

How do you feel with Straw's suggestion we don't check Michele's red peek?

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:58 pm Are we really debating whether we confirm Michele's red check on Alison by flipping Michele over Alison?
Yes, because there exists a real possibility they're both town.

Why are you suddenly so eager to kill someone and trying to dissuade discussion?

Sounds like a wolfy way to distract from a red check IMO

Are we really debating whether we confirm Michele's red check on Alison by flipping Michele over Alison?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:35 pm I mean look

Were almost definitely gonna kill mich first

If she flips cop we'll figure out what went wrong

But she has a check it looks impossible for her to have

Why don't we solve her check, and go from there? If Alison flips town, it's an obvs Mich flip next.

Solve the claim by flipping Alison.

[VOTE: VOTE ALISON] aubergine Fuckin' pissed I didn't kill her D2

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:31 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:32 pm Odd and Michelle love building up the suspense
I fell asleep, these days were tiresome for me

But yes, i wanted a day with everyone solving, not making one wagon and complainig for lack of WIM
Ah, and Odd is grandmaster in building up a plan no matter alignament ^^

I checked out accents from Bucharest, they're awesome.

Not like a Canadian accent, which sounds like we just got hit in the head with a rock

What's consensus, should we work out the POE from players who have no claim? Or the claims that aren't as fleshed out/believable?

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:44 pm This day is so dissapointing, activity is so low after we succeed to eliminate scum, and is hard to realise who is just a demotivated villager (why would villagers be so demotivated, btw?) and who is slanking scum.

Of course, I have a name, and I will post it at the middle of the day.

This is exciting

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:15 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:58 amWho do you have in your POE?
Man, my head hasn't been in the game for over a day, so I'd have to refresh on things if I were to give accurate reads. But GTH, no particular order:

Long Con
Esooa
Oddmerta
JPIC
KZA

Long Con and Esooa are the only two in that list that I've really had my eye on, and the other three are more, like...process-of-elimination? Until the weird recent ambiguity about Alison and Oddmerta/KZA's conflicting trooper info, Alison has appeared pretty townish. Hally, SPF, and BK too. Nanook's vig claims and the odds that it's indeed a town vig. I guess maybe fingersplints could also be in that POE, and just be extremely under the radar? I dunno. Like I said, head's having trouble staying in the game.

Well let's see if Esooa is full of hyperbole or just open wolfing

Has she given any flavour to the claim?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:55 am @Long Con @falcon45ca You guys think Esooa's claim is bogus?

I think of all the claims it seems the most unlikely

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:49 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:44 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:30 am you will have to kill me before u ever touch KZA

ANSD I AM UNKILLABLE HAHAH
Does anyone else believe this "I'm unkillable" stuff?

[VOTE: VOTE ESSOA] aubergine
I've interpreted many of Esooa's posts as hyperbole, so no. Do you believe scum would make such an outrageous claim?

I have no reason to suspect scum wouldn't do a lot of things. Would I do it as scum? No. Would others? I don't know, so maybe.

Why interpret her posts as hyperbole? What if she's just brazen wolf?

Who do you have in your POE?

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:30 am you will have to kill me before u ever touch KZA

ANSD I AM UNKILLABLE HAHAH

Does anyone else believe this "I'm unkillable" stuff?

[VOTE: VOTE ESSOA] aubergine

[VOTE: VOTE LC] aubergine

BK getting absurdly tinfoily. Town has lynched 2/3 properly, what's the need to go tinfoil? Stick with the POE IMO

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:16 pm JPIc isn’t totally clear for me yet. He volunteered his tracking info after nanook already said what he did

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:38 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:37 pm I have a two shot vig i tried to shoot Dom
I can confirm this
It was not mentioned that Marmot’s team was eliminated and someone said we would be told. (Hally maybe?)

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:02 pm
@Gavial [The Kitchen Brothers] has been eliminated.

" "
The Kitchen Brothers

[Passive] - The silent enforcers of the Kansas City Mob, the Kitchen Brothers do everything in pairs. They have two lives, they have 2 votes, and each night they may perform their actions twice. A day elimination consumes both lives, and the double-action doesn't affect the factional kills. If they lose a life, they will also lose their extra vote and actions.

[Passive] - The Kitchen Brothers will always clean after themselves and janitor their target if they perform the factional kill.
--- [Identical Twins] - If they perform the factional kill, they will not be seen visiting the target. [2-shots]

[Active] - Each night, the Kitchen Brothers may target a player and give them a beating. They will role-block them for the night. If they target the same player twice in a row, they will disable any passive they have the second night and drain their vote the following day.

Wincon - Eliminate all threats to the Kansas City Mafia

'Night' 3 starts.
Day 4 starts in 24 hours.

This role has two lives, so this team would have known one was used up. It would be a convenient fake claim to get a little townie credit.

It says a Day elimination would use both lives, so I don't think we can assume one was already used up

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:22 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:21 pm How does BK go from "Falc obv town, nowhere even close to scum range" to "Doubt his claim, let's flip him"?
When a player goes from 100 - 0.

BK, you're being mean

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:21 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:15 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:10 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:03 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:01 pm Long Con or Falcon flip
So you don't believe Falcon?
Not entirely. I can see falcon using a fake claim, and he hasn't done anything recently. Seems like he's been riding his town cred for a while now.
Not getting flips on several players takes a bit of the wind out of my sails.

I don't make fake claims, I don't use fake claims. You know this.
We don't use fake claims on CDC. I don't think you made up that story yourself, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was provided for you as a fake that you would use it.

I did write the story!

How does BK go from "Falc obv town, nowhere even close to scum range" to "Doubt his claim, let's flip him"?

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:51 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:21 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:59 am @Long Con what do you think about everyone?
Lemme give it a go here.

Long Con - livin' large
Hally - uncontested Mac partner (Is it confirmed that both partners are town?)
Michelle - is that Night 2 check coming in soon??
JPIC - tracked Nanook to Dom - how towny is this really? Bad guys track sometimes?
Nanook - Vigged Dom, definite non-KC, general consensus is town vig. Could be Gerhardt extra kill somehow?
Alison - Stable and partially-proven role, not likely to fake in multiball
Strawhenge - Lots of towny vibes, but what else makes Straw so towny in all the lists?
KZA - Trooper claim for some cred, not the worst-looking player but could still be bad.
Odd - Trooper claim for some cred, dubious on the play at times.
Esooa - Stump claim, super-roleblock seems to have happened. Could the stump claim be fake? Yes. It's a fantastic fakeclaim, really, one of the best in multiball.
Falcon - Creatively convincing claim, I'm not 100% convinced about it.
BoKnows - Not really sure about much here. Good wolf possibility?
Staypositivefriend - Loves telling us she's mafia a little too much. Had a clearing thing that seems to have vanished.
Fingersplints - Is there a reason to give up my fingersplints suspicion? Has she done something that is really towny?

Probably looking at some voting records would shuffle some players up or down a little, but maybe not with multiball? Also, the things that have happened to players at night can factor in.
I can't tell if this is really towny or really wolfy lol

It's got some odd things about it, for instance scum leaning me based off my claim. That don't make sense, the read on Odd doesn't add up for me either...if Odd has been playing dubious, why not doubt the claim? Same read with you. Straw read also is weird.

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