The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:13 am Looks like this game is over, when did it end? My OCD needs you to change the title to Bee Mafia [ENDGAME] or something please. Things seemed to be going so well at the time of my death, great job @BoKnows ! How did you do it?

Thanks, LC! Well, Falcon and Quin set me up really well to deep wolf. All I had to do was not make it obvious that I was the last scum.

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:29 pmCanucks GOAT

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:00 pm Bo done good

Thanks

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:13 pm Really good game @Sloonei and @juliets! Thanks for hosting

@BoKnows Your team helped set you up in the beginning, but I think you deserved the win most of all. It was fun after I died and learning you were the last, watching how you subtly push and steer the thread. So many right moves! Well done!

Good game to all the bees as well. We were just outplayed. Remember it’s just a game

Thanks finger!

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:04 pm @BoKnows you played great, really did a good job deepwolfing. Grats on the win, well deserved! @falcon45ca @Quin you two as well

Thanks Alison, enjoyed playing with you!

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:05 pm @BoKnows excellent job takin' it home! We set you up for a deepwolf position, but you're the guy who put in the hours and carried it home! MVP

Thanks man. You guys set me up to a T. My job was to not fumble the bag.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:49 pm GG to @BoKnows though

at least I was right they were trying to anti-spew with the D1 elimination

maybe not bussing but vaguely in the same area

When you said that you gave me half a heart attack

Thanks for hosting @Sloonei & @juliets

Shout out to @falcon45ca and @Quin

Good game guys

Through hours of incredibly thorough reads, I have narrowed down the last scum to two possible people.

/s

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:36 pm and now I [VOTE: kylemii] aubergine so she doesn't have time to respond with a 5 paragraph essay about how you can only play mafia with a TI 94 graphing calculator or better

I'm sorry but if you don't play mafia with a super computer and 14 textbooks worth of theory you should just retire

Honestly let's just flip Kyle. Kyle already mentioned he wanted to be sacrificed to help solve the game. I just read some of the theory you posted, Alison and I agree with the most part. I just feel like it's messing the human element to the game but I don't know if that can be accounted for.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:40 pm I would appreciate an Alison vote if you're going to vote though.

I am okay with switching my vote to Alison. Like I said earlier she is currently my biggest what if.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:23 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:20 pm I'm having a hard time following the whole alison is objectively better to have in the f3 than kyle. IF they're both town why does it matter who's in the f3?

Yeah it is potentially confusing

The reasoning involves a lot of hypotheticals and current town consensus.

(Though we may not actually have a strong consensus.)

I'm going to have to go through it again

I'm having a hard time following the whole alison is objectively better to have in the f3 than kyle. IF they're both town why does it matter who's in the f3?

If TS account shows up we can all vote on different people. 20% chance of ending the game

I'm having a hard time understanding everything right now.

Hello everyone

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:34 pm But since we were both thinking about the night-kill and how that depends wrt our reads I think that's partially a mind-meld there.

A flip would give me peace of mind. Right now she is my biggest "what if?"

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:38 pm i've become drunk by mistake

Classic

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:38 pmbeware hammer*

Only one vote on wagons right not.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:39 pmor day 3?

There are hyperlinks on the first page

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:40 pm if someone gets hammered with 24 hours left in the pot it better be me

Buddy you're already hammered

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:24 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:29 pm @MartinGG99 I want some updated thoughts
@ts account I want some updated thoughts

One question first though

What are your thoughts if Alison flips town;

Who do you look at next?

that's a tough one. I honestly have no idea. I'd have to wait to see who's left in f3 (assuming I'm in there), and go from there. If we get to f3 I think the night kill would be more telling than Alison flipping town.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:34 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:24 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:17 pm Yeah TS's minimal presence isn't great especially in late game.

Just thinking out loud here. How would everyone feel about flipping TS account? At this point it seems like whoever we flip we're just hoping that it would end the game. If this thing goes to f3 I would feel more comfortable if we had more high volume, so we can facilitate discussion more easily.

I know it's not a great plan but it's something.

I do not feel comfortable with anything whatsoever

I don't think anyone does but we gotta start thinking of something.

Unvote

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:17 pm Yeah TS's minimal presence isn't great especially in late game.

Just thinking out loud here. How would everyone feel about flipping TS account? At this point it seems like whoever we flip we're just hoping that it would end the game. If this thing goes to f3 I would feel more comfortable if we had more high volume, so we can facilitate discussion more easily.

I know it's not a great plan but it's something.

Yeah TS's minimal presence isn't great especially in late game.

Hmmm okay. Surprised Martin hasn't popped in yet.

How does everyone feel about TS account? Personally I'm a little hesitant to vote him out because of what NANOOK said.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:34 pm if alison's a wolf, she yeets me, it's final 3. what's her plan then

My best guess would be to ride her town cred to the finish line. Yeah it's definitely not a full-proof plan.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:37 pm mafia's anyone other than alison then the endgame is set up especially well

yeet someone else today, leave alison and me also alive, game over.

So I'm assuming you're saying you and Alison would hammer out the third option?

@MartinGG99 I want some updated thoughts
@ts account I want some updated thoughts

I feel we got really complacent the past 2 days and now we're here with no leads.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:07 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:50 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:56 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:29 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:12 pm This is going against the grain a little but I wouldn't mind voting out Alison. Out of everyone here I feel like she would have the best chance of being a deepwolf. Townread from the start, had a couple rounds where she didn't do too much.

I'm worried about alison being "too obvious" for basically that exact same reason

like through no fault of her own she's simultaneously potential low hanging fruit and potential deepwolf at the same time

Part me me wants to flip her and the other part of me thinks that's a dumb play. I wouldn't necessarily call her low hanging fruit either.

ehhhh screw it. [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

that is such a bad vote

gotta stir the pot a little.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:56 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:29 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:12 pm This is going against the grain a little but I wouldn't mind voting out Alison. Out of everyone here I feel like she would have the best chance of being a deepwolf. Townread from the start, had a couple rounds where she didn't do too much.

I'm worried about alison being "too obvious" for basically that exact same reason

like through no fault of her own she's simultaneously potential low hanging fruit and potential deepwolf at the same time

Part me me wants to flip her and the other part of me thinks that's a dumb play. I wouldn't necessarily call her low hanging fruit either.

ehhhh screw it. [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

ts account wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:38 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:35 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:45 pm I kinda felt like she was a potential ML if we reversed direction on Kyle/Nanook; which I was personally thinking of doing so since Nook flipped bee.

I'm not really confident at all on Kyle being mafia given his interactions with me yesterday.

I was also pretty surprised since I was definitely going to vote her in F3 if it got there. I expected ts account to die actually.

me too
80% of living players considered me lock clear for being in favor of killing 2 wolves
I have ideas on what it means and I don't particularly like any of them

Can you elaborate please

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:29 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:12 pm This is going against the grain a little but I wouldn't mind voting out Alison. Out of everyone here I feel like she would have the best chance of being a deepwolf. Townread from the start, had a couple rounds where she didn't do too much.

I'm worried about alison being "too obvious" for basically that exact same reason

like through no fault of her own she's simultaneously potential low hanging fruit and potential deepwolf at the same time

Part me me wants to flip her and the other part of me thinks that's a dumb play. I wouldn't necessarily call her low hanging fruit either.

This is going against the grain a little but I wouldn't mind voting out Alison. Out of everyone here I feel like she would have the best chance of being a deepwolf. Townread from the start, had a couple rounds where she didn't do too much.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:04 pm I don't have any suspects because I haven't been paying attention and have been waiting to die.

Alison doesn't have any suspects because she's cleared too many people for reasons that I guess I personally don't understand.

Okay thanks. Do you think that Alison could of cleared some of those people because she knew their alignment and slapped a random reason on why they're cleared?

I'm not trying to be a hardass because I'm no shiny example of going out and getting reads but I don't understand the thought process

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:32 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:12 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:58 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:54 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:24 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:02 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:00 pm sloonei voice "it seems like a good time for one of Kyle's patented trustfalls excersizes"

what who said that

That was a suggestion for you, you dork

Why don't you?

explained prior, trustfall exersize is useful only when you've run out of suspects and need to reanalyze why you trust the people you trust

Who are your suspects?

sort of assumed I'd be dead by now and I've been too annoyed at the entire game stalling after sweeping 2/3 of the mafia to yeet nanook and I instead of people spending that time to actually scumhunt to.... also do any scumhunting myself lol.

I'll look through things later maybe.

I don't understand your thought process.
-> "it seems like a good time for one of Kyle's patented trustfalls excersizes"
-> Was a suggestion for Alison.
-> Wants Alison to do it because she ran out of suspects.
-> Has no suspects and still didn't to do a trustfall. Might look through things later.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:58 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:54 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:24 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:02 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:00 pm sloonei voice "it seems like a good time for one of Kyle's patented trustfalls excersizes"

what who said that

That was a suggestion for you, you dork

Why don't you?

explained prior, trustfall exersize is useful only when you've run out of suspects and need to reanalyze why you trust the people you trust

Who are your suspects?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:24 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:02 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:00 pm sloonei voice "it seems like a good time for one of Kyle's patented trustfalls excersizes"

what who said that

That was a suggestion for you, you dork

Why don't you?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:01 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:49 amim waiting

for what

this made me chuckle lol

morning everyone

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:35 pm Oh yeah Esooa did have a strong scumread on Martin. So her kill makes sense in a Martin wolf world.

Maybe. Martin brought up the fact that no one scum read him and his case on me seems towny to me. I don't think scum would want to bring unnecessary attention to themselves like that. Unless they're going for a deep-deep fake, Philly special kinda move. That seems overly risky to do at this stage in the game.

I don't even know why Kyle is next in line for the PoE.

GTH reads

ts account - got nothing on. NANOOK said never even in f3 so idk that's a +1 I guess.
Martin - Putting in the work. Don't love that he's scum reading me but it's whatever. Did Esooa ever tunnel you for that vote(?)
Alison - Been widely town read from D1. Surprised she's still here kicking it. Uh idk didn't seem too into the game but that's whatever cause I'm feeling the game fatigue too.
Kyle - I've read through a lot of posts but none of them are sticking to me. The only player here that hasn't made an impression on me.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:10 pm I'll admit my case and read on BK makes some assumptions but I do believe it makes the most sense out of everyone else here to me.

But I am slightly concerned why no one has called me scum or suspicious for pushing this after two town-readers of BK *just* died.

Can't speak for everyone but I think it's fatigue.

@MartinGG99 If you got any questions for them away.

Sup guys