The Syndicate

Like sometimes when I'm town I understand the suspicion on me, but this game? I feel like I've been pro-towning the entire time and I don't get it.

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:00 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:07 am [VOTE: Zenon] aubergine
Sean is woof

This is a real thought

I have been clearly pro-town if you know how to look.

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:58 am
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:08 pm I’m not going to be online for a bit but I had to pop in to say I shot Genny!
Hey I was right I town read you. Nice.

Hey you were right to townread her.

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:55 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:34 pm WOW.

A) 2 mafia down, in a 15 player game that probably means there’s only 1 more, right? assuming there’s no 3p’s as nook ‘doesn’t like to party’

B) why did Kate die? Ability from psv to kill one of her voters or was Kate poisoned or something?

If the latter, makes me wonder if someone like falcon didn’t green check her and actually did something nefarious.

C) I wasn’t actually feeling the psv yeet and only tried to switch to get art. Didn’t make it in time
It had to be a day ability I docced Kate at night

doc would not necessarily protect against poison.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:52 pm [VOTE: sean] aubergine

The likeliest Maf bussing PSV I'd wager

What did you do last night?

[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Cool, cool cool cool.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:54 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:46 pm @Scotty
@Lemonfairy
@Dennis
@falcon45ca
@Seanzie

What are you guys doing??
I'm feeling the thread.

Interestingly the thread is not pointing towards PSV, which makes me think they're more likely wolf... or possibly no other wolves are around. Or possibly they are wolf with Thun and/or Pyxxy, but that last one is kinda meh...

Anyways,

[VOTE: PSV] aubergine

I thought more about this and everything i said was BS. Still gonna vote here though.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:55 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:54 pm My date will be here in a few minutes, so I probably won't be back again... except maybe in like 1 minute.
I don't have any plans to see you tonight, what the fuck you talking 'bout?

Good cover. Scotty would be so jealous if he knew I've been seeing you before our separation is legally processed.

My date will be here in a few minutes, so I probably won't be back again... except maybe in like 1 minute.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:46 pm @Scotty
@Lemonfairy
@Dennis
@falcon45ca
@Seanzie

What are you guys doing??

I'm feeling the thread.

Interestingly the thread is not pointing towards PSV, which makes me think they're more likely wolf... or possibly no other wolves are around. Or possibly they are wolf with Thun and/or Pyxxy, but that last one is kinda meh...

Anyways,

[VOTE: PSV] aubergine

Would be kinda fun if I voted Thun.

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:55 pm So I likely won't be around in the final hours of the day. I apparently have some sus on me even though I don't think anyone has vocalized anything about me, and so I want to give y'all a chance to actually talk to me. If you suspect me, let's get this cleared up now. None of this "shrug yeet Seanzie" bs that almost happened yesterday.

@Kate @potentialsheltervet @Quin @Scotty

anyone else?

So I likely won't be around in the final hours of the day. I apparently have some sus on me even though I don't think anyone has vocalized anything about me, and so I want to give y'all a chance to actually talk to me. If you suspect me, let's get this cleared up now. None of this "shrug yeet Seanzie" bs that almost happened yesterday.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:33 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:28 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:05 am Although I'm struggling to find footing with scumreads, I do have some pretty confident townreads which is something:
Kate
Falcon
Seanzie
Lemonfairy

And my less confident townreads are Dennis, PSV, and Zenon.
Tell me about PSV.
I'm about to ISO her so I'll tell you about her in a bit.

I'd rather hear your thoughts pre-ISO.

[VOTE: PSV] aubergine

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:05 am Although I'm struggling to find footing with scumreads, I do have some pretty confident townreads which is something:
Kate
Falcon
Seanzie
Lemonfairy

And my less confident townreads are Dennis, PSV, and Zenon.

Tell me about PSV.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:51 am Why do people keep bring the topic back to scotty everything a discussion gets going? That shit is not going to stick.

Why not?

Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:50 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:15 am Scotty has convinced me to not townread Scotty.
Why pls

Because I thought about it more and I decided that the thing I saw is actually possibly more likely to come from a wolf than town, and also the way Scotty approached it, without questioning me about ny self-stated bad townread until I questioned him about why it was, along with how he was like like "that is NAI" without digging into me about it even though he has supposedly been waffly on me, suggests that he cares less about how I'm thinking and more about my read on him (and people poiting out their own things that are NAI or even wolfy are the sorts of things that can easily be done by wolves to look townie [which I definitely do at times]).

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:32 am Kate
Falcon
Thunal
Scotty
Dennis
Roxy
Lemonfairy
Zenon
Quin
Pyxxy
PSV
DUBZ
Seanzie
Genny

I am clearly town. I should be much higher.

Scotty has convinced me to not townread Scotty.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:29 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:24 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:22 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:17 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:12 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:07 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:05 am
Oh and then you go and make a case like this that I once again find myself nodding along with.

I mean, I can dig this.

Ugh

Seanzie I just can’t quit you
If it helps, if I didn't have a dumb reason to townlean you, I'd probably suspect you for how you're handling me.
That does help actually.

I tend to be more suspicious of those that agree with my reads and try to hold hands with those that try to push me away.

I’m sure there’s a psychological reasoning in there somewhere
You don't care what the dumb reason is?
Did you open a fortune cookie and find ‘That Scottie is a right good chap
Lucky numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42’?
No.
ok I’ll bite. Whyfor

I kinda believe you didn't realize Creature was dead, which would be weird as mafia.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:22 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:17 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:12 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:07 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:05 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:57 am
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:59 pm @Dennis @Seanzie what are you seeing in @Thunal33 ?
Just realized I forgot to respond to this.

I haven't played with Thun in a while, but one of the things she would do as town and have a hard time replication as scum was a sort of paranoia/worry about being wrong, which I don't see here. It has been a while, but people are slow to change, so this worries me. She also re-used almost exactly the same read on me from long ago, which scum sometimes do by accident (I purposefully put people in similar situations with regard to me game after game because it is sometimes easy to tell when someone has a genuine new townie reaction verses someone recycling an old townie reaction). Finally, kind of a micro-read but the way she is writing her sentences is scum-indicative IMO. It is passive with many modifiers/qualifiers, which tends to come from someone wanting to look like they're considering things rather than someone writing stream of consciousness or excited about having figured out this or that.
Oh and then you go and make a case like this that I once again find myself nodding along with.

I mean, I can dig this.

Ugh

Seanzie I just can’t quit you
If it helps, if I didn't have a dumb reason to townlean you, I'd probably suspect you for how you're handling me.
That does help actually.

I tend to be more suspicious of those that agree with my reads and try to hold hands with those that try to push me away.

I’m sure there’s a psychological reasoning in there somewhere
You don't care what the dumb reason is?
Did you open a fortune cookie and find ‘That Scottie is a right good chap
Lucky numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42’?

No.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:12 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:07 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:05 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:57 am
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:59 pm @Dennis @Seanzie what are you seeing in @Thunal33 ?
Just realized I forgot to respond to this.

I haven't played with Thun in a while, but one of the things she would do as town and have a hard time replication as scum was a sort of paranoia/worry about being wrong, which I don't see here. It has been a while, but people are slow to change, so this worries me. She also re-used almost exactly the same read on me from long ago, which scum sometimes do by accident (I purposefully put people in similar situations with regard to me game after game because it is sometimes easy to tell when someone has a genuine new townie reaction verses someone recycling an old townie reaction). Finally, kind of a micro-read but the way she is writing her sentences is scum-indicative IMO. It is passive with many modifiers/qualifiers, which tends to come from someone wanting to look like they're considering things rather than someone writing stream of consciousness or excited about having figured out this or that.
Oh and then you go and make a case like this that I once again find myself nodding along with.

I mean, I can dig this.

Ugh

Seanzie I just can’t quit you
If it helps, if I didn't have a dumb reason to townlean you, I'd probably suspect you for how you're handling me.
That does help actually.

I tend to be more suspicious of those that agree with my reads and try to hold hands with those that try to push me away.

I’m sure there’s a psychological reasoning in there somewhere

You don't care what the dumb reason is?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:05 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:57 am
Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:59 pm @Dennis @Seanzie what are you seeing in @Thunal33 ?
Just realized I forgot to respond to this.

I haven't played with Thun in a while, but one of the things she would do as town and have a hard time replication as scum was a sort of paranoia/worry about being wrong, which I don't see here. It has been a while, but people are slow to change, so this worries me. She also re-used almost exactly the same read on me from long ago, which scum sometimes do by accident (I purposefully put people in similar situations with regard to me game after game because it is sometimes easy to tell when someone has a genuine new townie reaction verses someone recycling an old townie reaction). Finally, kind of a micro-read but the way she is writing her sentences is scum-indicative IMO. It is passive with many modifiers/qualifiers, which tends to come from someone wanting to look like they're considering things rather than someone writing stream of consciousness or excited about having figured out this or that.
Oh and then you go and make a case like this that I once again find myself nodding along with.

I mean, I can dig this.

Ugh

Seanzie I just can’t quit you

If it helps, if I didn't have a dumb reason to townlean you, I'd probably suspect you for how you're handling me.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:28 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:57 am I'd vote for Roxy.
And yet

And yet indeed.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:59 pm @Dennis @Seanzie what are you seeing in @Thunal33 ?

Just realized I forgot to respond to this.

I haven't played with Thun in a while, but one of the things she would do as town and have a hard time replication as scum was a sort of paranoia/worry about being wrong, which I don't see here. It has been a while, but people are slow to change, so this worries me. She also re-used almost exactly the same read on me from long ago, which scum sometimes do by accident (I purposefully put people in similar situations with regard to me game after game because it is sometimes easy to tell when someone has a genuine new townie reaction verses someone recycling an old townie reaction). Finally, kind of a micro-read but the way she is writing her sentences is scum-indicative IMO. It is passive with many modifiers/qualifiers, which tends to come from someone wanting to look like they're considering things rather than someone writing stream of consciousness or excited about having figured out this or that.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:30 am My Townlean on Seanzie that I had d1 is gone. I no longer feel comfortable with him as my mason

I want a divorce

Why?

Also I didn't agree to be masons. You said that after I tongue-in-cheek agreed with your Creature read.

I'd vote for Roxy.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:58 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:54 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:37 pm rn it goes tp[VOTE: ] aubergine seanzie actually
What did you do last night?
zilch

Why?

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:37 pm rn it goes tp[VOTE: ] aubergine seanzie actually

What did you do last night?

[VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:37 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:49 pm Actually, I think pyxxy was the one I questioned whether they were voting creature due to the whole lowposting as wolf business
@pyxxy How do you feel now?
idr if I answered this already

I feel fine about Creature dying. In SDN crossover he got saved by partners, so maybe the lack of saving should have been a clue? otoh it's WIFOM, maybe if Creature was scum then his scummates just decide to bus him D1 since he already said he was busy/not thinking about this game.

Counter to what (Seanzie? iirc?) said, I think it's a completely fine D1 chop.

Creature is often an easy D1 push/miselim for wolves and gets easier to find as the game goes on IMO, which is why I don't think it was a good chop. I also think Creature being disintested is towny for them. As scum they tend to look interested, but somewhat stilted. As town they're either disinterested or interested and paranoid/solvey.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:29 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:22 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:21 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:11 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:05 am
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:03 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:27 pm Porscha nk is confusing
What's confusing?
Cause what did porscha even do

She fluff posted just about the entire time, and I think called anyone who townread her scum which I struggle to see as real play. Why kill her?
People who know her knew she was obv town. Better question is... who knew her?
^occam's razor
Elaborate.
I like this conversation a lot.

Elaborate.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:03 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:16 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:55 pm Some of the lowest posters are the ones with votes. The only other lower posters are falcon and creature, which I town lean on atm

I think lemon and genny just had mediocre D1’s and I wish them to post more. Pyxxy is just very blendy
I also townlean Creature.
isn't Creature dead?

Now you're getting it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:55 pm Some of the lowest posters are the ones with votes. The only other lower posters are falcon and creature, which I town lean on atm

I think lemon and genny just had mediocre D1’s and I wish them to post more. Pyxxy is just very blendy

I also townlean Creature.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:54 pm [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'm still here probs
wouldn't mind Genny/Thunal

I'd elim this.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:48 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:43 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:31 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:26 pm i don't buy the kate green check for a second lol

It's not for sale
good thing im not buying it then
These things have a way to resolve. Falcon coming in on d2 with this after not outright saying it in his first post and having info that he did visit makes it far more likely Kate is town here. Not sold on falcon being town, but I think 9/10 Kate is just town here

Pretty sure Falcon is town.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:25 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:11 pm Hey, what I miss?
What do you think of Kate?
She's prolly town, I think I was reading too much into things.

What's your take on Thunal?

I think my take on Thun is pretty self-evident in thread.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:11 pm Hey, what I miss?

What do you think of Kate?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:27 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:14 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:40 am
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:26 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:18 am
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:16 am
Yes. I still townlean you and I wanted to know if or why you wanted Kate chopped because that was a minor point of paranoia.
Tell me about me. Am I a good D1 chop? Why didn't you vote me yesterday?
I didn't vote you yesterday because I townleaned you. I thought you specifically making the observation that my townlean was too copy and paste from other games showed some towny paranoia. Now with the Porscha NK and me townreading Scotty and Quin, I'm not convinced you're town but your d1 content was slightly towny.
Tell me about Quin.
I thought his mechanical RT was towny since he was willingly putting himself into suspicion for it and I thought his legacy post and vote on Scotty then following it up with doubting his read was towny.
It clearly wasn't actually a RT though, and I think him saying it was is weird.

I had to really dig to find his "legacy post". Quin was not someone who was super townread or a major threat, so why would they feel the need to do a legacy post, and why would you interpret their post as particularly legacy-y? This is weird.

Quin is town though. But not for the reasons you've mentioned. Except maybe the scotty thing.
I think it was an RT. You may not have been around for it, but Quin was the top wagon and said himself he thought he was going to die. I interpreted his post scumreading Scotty and Dennis as a legacy post because it was. Can you read my other recent posts instead of just disputing this one? Because I did just drop some mechanical info and gave good reasons why I had some suspicion on you at start of day.

This will likely be my last post defending myself against you. I'd like to use the rest of my posts solving and if I do go over, I want to take the wolves down with me.

I have read your other posts.

Yeah, y'all... we're gonna need to elim Thun.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:40 am
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:26 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:18 am
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:16 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:14 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 7:43 pm

I still townlean especially this post from Scotty. Him wondering why others aren't seeing the same thing he is combined with questioning why he would pull off Quin are both good looks imo.
Interesting dynamic you’ve got going here. Was your last post directed at me meant to be interrogative RE my vote for Kate? Do you think I might have had a better read that you wanted me to expound upon or just playing the fence here?
Yes. I still townlean you and I wanted to know if or why you wanted Kate chopped because that was a minor point of paranoia.
Tell me about me. Am I a good D1 chop? Why didn't you vote me yesterday?
I didn't vote you yesterday because I townleaned you. I thought you specifically making the observation that my townlean was too copy and paste from other games showed some towny paranoia. Now with the Porscha NK and me townreading Scotty and Quin, I'm not convinced you're town but your d1 content was slightly towny.
Tell me about Quin.
I thought his mechanical RT was towny since he was willingly putting himself into suspicion for it and I thought his legacy post and vote on Scotty then following it up with doubting his read was towny.

It clearly wasn't actually a RT though, and I think him saying it was is weird.

I had to really dig to find his "legacy post". Quin was not someone who was super townread or a major threat, so why would they feel the need to do a legacy post, and why would you interpret their post as particularly legacy-y? This is weird.

Quin is town though. But not for the reasons you've mentioned. Except maybe the scotty thing.

[VOTE: Lemonfairy] aubergine

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:29 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:26 am Yeah, Thun randed wolf. Sorry about the rand your first game back, I am happy you're back though!
Yep, I did rand wolf my first game back. And my game looked nothing like this, it was far more controlled and less scatterbrained.

viewtopic.php?t=2526

Good news: you are very controlled and not scatterbrained this game.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:26 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:18 am
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:16 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:14 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 7:43 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:43 pm Like, do y’all not see what I’m seeing with quin?

And if you think quin is good, why am I as wolf trying to pull off him? TMI? I just sit back and let it happen
I still townlean especially this post from Scotty. Him wondering why others aren't seeing the same thing he is combined with questioning why he would pull off Quin are both good looks imo.
Interesting dynamic you’ve got going here. Was your last post directed at me meant to be interrogative RE my vote for Kate? Do you think I might have had a better read that you wanted me to expound upon or just playing the fence here?
Yes. I still townlean you and I wanted to know if or why you wanted Kate chopped because that was a minor point of paranoia.
Tell me about me. Am I a good D1 chop? Why didn't you vote me yesterday?
I didn't vote you yesterday because I townleaned you. I thought you specifically making the observation that my townlean was too copy and paste from other games showed some towny paranoia. Now with the Porscha NK and me townreading Scotty and Quin, I'm not convinced you're town but your d1 content was slightly towny.

Tell me about Quin.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:16 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:14 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 7:43 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:43 pm Like, do y’all not see what I’m seeing with quin?

And if you think quin is good, why am I as wolf trying to pull off him? TMI? I just sit back and let it happen
I still townlean especially this post from Scotty. Him wondering why others aren't seeing the same thing he is combined with questioning why he would pull off Quin are both good looks imo.
Interesting dynamic you’ve got going here. Was your last post directed at me meant to be interrogative RE my vote for Kate? Do you think I might have had a better read that you wanted me to expound upon or just playing the fence here?
Yes. I still townlean you and I wanted to know if or why you wanted Kate chopped because that was a minor point of paranoia.

Tell me about me. Am I a good D1 chop? Why didn't you vote me yesterday?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:57 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:36 am
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:08 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:05 am
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 7:27 pm My eyes are on Scotty after that EOD and Seanzie since he turned into the Creature CW.
No. Nothing exactly nothing about "turning into" a CW actually suggests something about my alignment.

What movement suggests this? Explain in detail please.
I have never explained anything in detail, but:
It feels like votes cascaded to creature after they started getting on you. At least in my memory.
I wasn't there for EoD, so I don't know the vote orders, but why would you describe me as turning into the Creature CW if this is true? What you describe would be the opposite.
I was maybe there and I do recall this as well, though when we talk about votes cascading, it was more of like a flow of 2-3 votes. I may have helped your cause with shielding, since some people turned to me instead lol

What do you think of Creature going over? Very rarely is Creature a good wagon D1 IMO.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:50 am I'm gonna look at thunals push on seanzie once more

Let me know your thoughts.

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