The Syndicate

actually, ignore that i probs overreacted

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:06 am what benefit for a Wilgy/Falcon/Dolby/Gira team combo is there not to kill Alexa/Mac/SPF/Nanook/LC over Ilario.

None... its a massive missed smoking gun.

ur overrating a bunch of people there and underrating me lol.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:59 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:57 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:51 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:50 pm Wtf Mac where’d u come from lmao, have u read everything upto now?
yes I've been watching to see if anything ai occurred but no such luck
Whyd u specifically wanna know falcons srs when he’s not even online rn?
how am I meant to know he's not?

he has no votes and usually he does so I feel he might be coasting maf
Oh I thought you did because you said you were online and keeping up but not talking
and how do I know falcon isn't doing similar?

Hmmm fair point

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:57 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:51 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:50 pm Wtf Mac where’d u come from lmao, have u read everything upto now?
yes I've been watching to see if anything ai occurred but no such luck
Whyd u specifically wanna know falcons srs when he’s not even online rn?
how am I meant to know he's not?

he has no votes and usually he does so I feel he might be coasting maf

Oh I thought you did because you said you were online and keeping up but not talking

In a world where wilgy is actually scum nooook and Alexa look great off the flip

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:53 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:48 pm Is it the same level as u srd champ in the mash?
ok uh i don't think wilgy is as like as blatantly obvious wolf as champ in the mash, but it's still at a similar confidence level because there's only like 1-2 posts i townread (VS. champ had 0) and the rest read as very scummy to me, and POE, and i think he's a wolf who is playing well but still don't think his thoughts are coming from a town perspective, so yes i would say it's very close to a similar confidence

Ohhh okay I’ll defs keep that in mind if you somehow die tn and he makes it to d2

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:54 pm I don't want to vote for Gira or Nook still.

Alexa is on Splints which makes me uncomfortable.

Bro u should claim

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:53 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:48 pm If you want a flash wagon it should be on dizzy
why?
They have zeronpurpose or conviction in their reads, their reads just kind of...exist, with seemingly little to no belief behind them. Take a look at how they've handled reading me for an example, but its pretty much all their reads.

That’s pretty standard for him d1

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:51 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:50 pm Wtf Mac where’d u come from lmao, have u read everything upto now?
yes I've been watching to see if anything ai occurred but no such luck

Whyd u specifically wanna know falcons srs when he’s not even online rn?

@DrWilgy u should claim imo

Wtf Mac where’d u come from lmao, have u read everything upto now?

Also I’ve been trying to consider what a world where wilgy and nooook both being town would look like: and I think maf would pretty much have dipped/not care too much about what’s happening this eod, several slots fit this criteria, namely being gira and finger.

Is it the same level as u srd champ in the mash?

Alexa how confident are you on wilgy btw?

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:41 pm @ilario where would you personally go/why?

I’m ngl I feel like everyone’s had towny moments but I struggle so much to understand finger/giras world views that I personally would go there because even if they’re town I struggle to see us being able to find each other any time soon since the reasons they both seem to be pushing on myself and you are so hard to counter because the basis of the arguments is very flawed.

Yeah but she barely read that game and to her credit on d1 she pushed two wolves and the hydra game before that she had really good reads. She also has a lot of experience with wilgy (I assume since they’re both from syn). I think ur most likely gonna get ur wilgy chop today regardless but yeah I was just trying to consider both sides.

This’ll probs intensify giras tinfoil of me but meh: I’m pretty torn on wilgy. Mostly cos alison and Alexa who I both strongly tr have very opposite views of his alignment. I’ve only played with him once and after skimming his iso I don’t feel too strongly either way, I don’t think he’s where I would personally go today but he is noticeably more talkative this game compared to last when he was being pushed as a cw close to eod, but idk if that means anything

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:05 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:20 pm I think we should abandon all other premise and just murder ilario.
I disagree. I think Ilario is one of my greenest reads.
Really?? Why?
Because your entry & agreement with Alison gave me towny vibes and you haven't done anything that I wouldn't read from a town voice? Plus my early scum read voted you so...

My early sr do u mean gira? Has ur read changed on him?

Fwiw even if wilgy were to flip wolf I don’t necessarily think that makes esooa scummy

Like all I gathered was u don’t like that I don’t have a strong push, but that’s not exactly the hardest thing to fake? And there’s other slots including yourself just like that atm so I’m struggling to see your POV on me

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:18 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:02 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:21 pm i reread ilario's iso and think he's mafia

there's a lot of questioning people and making statements along the lines of "not sure i see it" or agreeing with what other people say but not much in the way of actually taking definitive stances or pushing on anyone, just some soft townreads

granted i haven't been reading games well at all lately but that's what i see looking at him
lol I disagree but even if that were true, why is that scummmy on a d1?
i don't think you're trying to solve the game

But why?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:53 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:25 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:49 pm nanook is outed mafia he's pushing towny wilgy who is an easy person to kill because he realizes that he flew too close to the sun with doing literally nothing this day that is useful as a wolf and now needs an out which is Wilgy easy push
Eh... Idk I don't think wolf nook pushes for me when they could've just as easily pushed Mac or FS.

I still think wolf nook resolves later.
@DrWilgy why do you think wolf book would avoid pushing u over mac or fs
When I flip, I could see alot more pressure coming out of it than the other two. I don't think W nook fights this fight just to get flipped d3.

If he latched onto Mac earlier or FS and they do go over, I think there'd be alot more shrugging and moving on.

Hmmm this is a decent reply

Wilgy is a lot more talkative than the last game I was with him as town, is this amount of volume normal for him?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:47 pm @ilario @fingersplints what's going on? are you guys wolves together?

Lmaooo bruh I’m so confused what your read on me is

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:21 pm i reread ilario's iso and think he's mafia

there's a lot of questioning people and making statements along the lines of "not sure i see it" or agreeing with what other people say but not much in the way of actually taking definitive stances or pushing on anyone, just some soft townreads

granted i haven't been reading games well at all lately but that's what i see looking at him

lol I disagree but even if that were true, why is that scummmy on a d1?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:03 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:51 pm illario wolf guys I know it
esooa is wolfing

Wait I thought I was in ur poe? When did that change ?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:25 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:49 pm nanook is outed mafia he's pushing towny wilgy who is an easy person to kill because he realizes that he flew too close to the sun with doing literally nothing this day that is useful as a wolf and now needs an out which is Wilgy easy push
Eh... Idk I don't think wolf nook pushes for me when they could've just as easily pushed Mac or FS.

I still think wolf nook resolves later.

@DrWilgy why do you think wolf book would avoid pushing u over mac or fs

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:20 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:11 pm There a chance we miscleared Illario early?
i don't think so, i considered it for a moment because he hasn't been wilding out with reads as much as usual but i just opened his ISO and closed it immediately (the only time i've ever felt the need to really spend any time in detail on his ISO he was a wolf), his line about me/esooa /alison being villagers probably so he'd sleep or w/e was very towny and i think him clearing so many people is good too, this is not a lock town never rescind but like 95% he's a villager

You just hydrad with me lmao, I don’t wild out as much as you think imo, I was the one keeping u grounded lol

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:59 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:55 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:53 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:15 pm @fingersplints Towniest and most suss reads? What do you have so far?
My top town reads are Esooa and Falcon.
I think I’m liking Alison too but less than these two

Dr Wilgy reminding me of a previous town game, but I don’t remember wolf style and I feel like their playstyle could easily mask some ‘wolfiness’. Don’t plan on voting there for now anyways

I struggle with day 1 suspicions always. I think Alexa looks worst atm followed by illario but these aren’t strong suspicions
why?
A combo of narrowing down who I don’t feel townie about and vibes
That’s how I roll day 1

But you only felt townie about 2-3 people, how does that lead you to me/Alexa when there’s 7 other people you don’t really feel anything strongly about?

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:55 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:54 pm wait lmao her wolf reads being alexa and illario is so towny though
IDK if it is because she doesn't know us

LOL nvm u beat me to it

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:54 pm wait lmao her wolf reads being alexa and illario is so towny though

Hmmm I would normally agree that someone pushing a me/Alexa world is >rand town but she doesn’t really know us I think?

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:53 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:15 pm @fingersplints Towniest and most suss reads? What do you have so far?
My top town reads are Esooa and Falcon.
I think I’m liking Alison too but less than these two

Dr Wilgy reminding me of a previous town game, but I don’t remember wolf style and I feel like their playstyle could easily mask some ‘wolfiness’. Don’t plan on voting there for now anyways

I struggle with day 1 suspicions always. I think Alexa looks worst atm followed by illario but these aren’t strong suspicions

Why do you fos alexa?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:16 pm Anyways wilgy is probably mafia here

Dizzy Gira alexa probably lime are town.

Why?

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:59 pm illario is so mafia

Noooooo sad face emoji

Yeah the emoji threw me off too, but it’s moreso the fact that he Made that post and didn’t really have anything else to add after.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:20 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:16 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:13 pm But I’ll take your and Alexas word for it not being weird. Just have seen you way more paranoid in general.
Like when? Our first game together I gave no fucks and tr’d people just because they were likeable

I’m not denying that I’m a paranoid player because I can be, just depends on the situation and context. I don’t feel any cause for paranoia atm.
I think you were more paranoid and thorough. You were paranoid against the triad. Only not against me. And you spent more time explaining your town read. And last game, the town sweep, you seemed more paranoid and high strung than most others tbh.

It’s just something I noticed. Like, seems like you got things under control here in a way.

I was more paranoid last game because since I didn’t know you that well I underestimated you in the first game and wasn’t aware you could hard solo carry as a wolf (ggs again for that game u played pretty damn well). I used the next game to pressure you and focus on you to try and figure out how to read you better. Game 3 and I feel somewhat confident in my ability to read you now.

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:19 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:17 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:14 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:12 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:05 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:59 pm Skimmed alexas iso since the dizzy thing got me second guessing but yeah nah I think she’s just town and can join dizzy and alison in the IC list
what was the thing that pinged you from finger?
If you had guess which post would it be
#607

LMAOOOOO what made u say that
LMAOOO because we talked about how catching up or like "omg so many posts" was more annoying as scum

am i wrong??

Ur not wrong

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:14 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:12 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:05 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:59 pm Skimmed alexas iso since the dizzy thing got me second guessing but yeah nah I think she’s just town and can join dizzy and alison in the IC list
what was the thing that pinged you from finger?
If you had guess which post would it be
#607

LMAOOOOO what made u say that

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:13 pm But I’ll take your and Alexas word for it not being weird. Just have seen you way more paranoid in general.

Like when? Our first game together I gave no fucks and tr’d people just because they were likeable

I’m not denying that I’m a paranoid player because I can be, just depends on the situation and context. I don’t feel any cause for paranoia atm.

Oh yeah lc is one too

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:05 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:59 pm Skimmed alexas iso since the dizzy thing got me second guessing but yeah nah I think she’s just town and can join dizzy and alison in the IC list
what was the thing that pinged you from finger?

If you had guess which post would it be

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:06 pm Since when did Ilario call his town reads ICs? Weird as fuck if you ask me. Especially in this game.

-7 tbh

since a bunch of slots decided to post their rolecards half a day into the game unlike last one

but yeah its not uncommon for me

whys it weird in this game?

Skimmed alexas iso since the dizzy thing got me second guessing but yeah nah I think she’s just town and can join dizzy and alison in the IC list

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:24 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:20 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:01 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:54 am Hmmm well for me I didn’t wanna voice my read since I already felt like I forecasted that I found you scummy and felt no point adding onto that when you’re already being pushed by alison. That being said I like this post you made here.
what did you even like about that post, i barely said anything
I liked that you were critical of the EM players for not having a read on you. I think as a wolf you would be content with being out of their radar for now esp since you already have to deal with Alison pushing you atm + I liked how you assessed her push on you from multiple angles and the conclusion of “she just hates my posts for whatever reason” is a more likely thought for you to have as being town fossed by her after just being mafia fossed by her. I think it’s less likely you have idea to fake that thought if you naturally rand mafia against her twice and she correctly reads you both times.
we were both town in the other game

Dang lol

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:22 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:14 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:58 am this game feels like it's either really hard or really easy

@ilario do you have a read on NOOK?
I think he’s probably town tbh
LMAOOOO you're catching the tbh bug

End me tbh

/vote illario

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:18 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:29 am
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:59 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:57 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:47 am this is probably a really dumb read for me to make but i honestly think alexa might be town now lmao
to expand, one of the main ways that i try to find alexa when she's town is gauging whether or not her pushes have conviction behind them, because i think one of alexa's biggest wolftells is her struggle to replicate the intensity of the pushes that she makes as town. i thought that her supporting lime coke's push on me and playing more reactively could be indicative of her lacking "conviction", but she showed a lot of passion and a lot of authentic frustration in the interactions that i just had with her, and i think she would probably struggle to fake that level of conviction as a wolf

it's also notable that alexa's concerns with me are primarily based on how im reading her, which is also pretty typical of her towngame. i was starting to get deja vu in our exchange right now because i feel like we've had multiple games where we struggle to find each other early on and then OMGUS/fight with each other and i kind of got the vibe that the same thing was happening here. i think alexa might be more passive toward in general if she was a wolf, because she would probably want to pocket me
@ilario do you have any thoughts on this
hmmm those arent the things i typically look for when reading u, if spf is town these points very well could be true but for me personally i didnt really resonate with the points too strongly except the last part. also the first part is kinda like a general statement than can be made up on the spot and applied to alota people, so im trying to figure out if this something specific to alexa that spf noticed or just something she mentioned to add nuance to the read, @spf is there a particular instance you think of when you made the point about alexas conviction being lacking in comparison to her town game?
also i thought it was kind of word-salady/TMI-y at the time i asked this which is why i was wondering what you thought, but looking back not sure i feel as strongly irt that

There is a lot of different thoughts she’s having in that one post, idk if that means anything alignment wise.

As I typed that out I liked my read less and less lol

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:01 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:54 am Hmmm well for me I didn’t wanna voice my read since I already felt like I forecasted that I found you scummy and felt no point adding onto that when you’re already being pushed by alison. That being said I like this post you made here.
what did you even like about that post, i barely said anything

I liked that you were critical of the EM players for not having a read on you. I think as a wolf you would be content with being out of their radar for now esp since you already have to deal with Alison pushing you atm + I liked how you assessed her push on you from multiple angles and the conclusion of “she just hates my posts for whatever reason” is a more likely thought for you to have as being town fossed by her after just being mafia fossed by her. I think it’s less likely you have idea to fake that thought if you naturally rand mafia against her twice and she correctly reads you both times.

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:58 am this game feels like it's either really hard or really easy

@ilario do you have a read on NOOK?

I think he’s probably town tbh

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:25 am
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:29 am Bruh how is dizzy not a consensus tr
he joked about being an easy target and that's scummy or something

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:17 am Also to your other question I’ve seen gira as maf only once and I don’t remember much but it seemed like he really hated it with every fiber of his being
i'm actually fairly tryhard as scum generally but in the game you're referring to i couldn't keep up with EM hyperposting meta + the thread being like 80 pages already when i subbed in or something. Haven't really drawn scum in a fast-paced 48/24 game so don't really know how I'd fare though. Would probably hate playing it here because eventually games get too much meta that makes it impossible to misyeet people.

dunno I'm just being my usual town self, kinda funny that the EM people are afraid to have a read on me out of, like, residual reputation or something

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:33 am I’d guess on Gira as town. Would like a more comprehensive view from them.

If Gira is town, Alison’s votes are bad. So that’s a thing. I think she was supposed to be voting me rn.
i had inferred a few possible motivations for her voting me and was mostly waiting to see how things would shake out.

was possible she was testing me to see if i'd blow up like in baby mafia, also possible that she was pushing me as scum hoping i'd blow up and she could use that reaction against me. at any rate, that wasn't going to happen this game and it doesn't look like she's testing me. so the simpler answer is that she's just someone who reflexively hates my posts for whatever reason. this is similar to how anne used to treat me in games.

i don't love her having an overconfident PoE on day 1 while claiming to have essentially skimmed, but i have a bias toward thinking the hard tunnel on me is town

dunno

Hmmm well for me I didn’t wanna voice my read since I already felt like I forecasted that I found you scummy and felt no point adding onto that when you’re already being pushed by alison. That being said I like this post you made here.

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