The Syndicate

gg spf never doubted you were town, not even for a second

bronana wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:59 pm thats the joke marl

no i'm the joke

outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:58 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:57 pm I'm here
For a couple seconds

Wolfchat alerted you eh

nobody would even be alive in wolfchat to alert him!

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:55 pm

Marluxion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:50 pm @staypositivefriend can you show me what posts you made about dya that you think wouldn't come from you as a wolf?

if the game isnt over in 5 minutes, then yeah

if the game isn't over in 5 minutes i'm frickin toasted so show arete instead
I appoint them as my replacement IC

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:54 pm hey guys guess what

by following sunbae we've won by doing absolutely nothing?

wait i found the holy grail in the vulgard neighborhood

before the night ended he posted this, a critical piece of spew

i can't believe i overlooked this

he said:

bronana wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:50 pm

Marluxion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:49 pm I think the last wolf is in syn/dizzy/spf

SPF turning on c4 is more or less what i'd expect when the noose of the PoE starts shrinking onto them as we near the endgame

Syn just has like
no reason to townread him at all

and dizzy i still feel felt agenda-ey to me the day vulgard died, even if they've explained their thought processes

i generally agree with these but idk if i will ever be comfortable clearing arete

i give permission to vote arete in final 3 but not before imo unless you all are 10,000,000,000% certain on them

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:50 pm yeah if this is wrong my legacy is it's just spf glgl

quit pretendin' like you're dying
i'm the one who perishes today, you've gotta fill my shoes and catch the last one tomorrow if this is wrong

@staypositivefriend can you show me what posts you made about dya that you think wouldn't come from you as a wolf?

I think the last wolf is in syn/dizzy/spf

SPF turning on c4 is more or less what i'd expect when the noose of the PoE starts shrinking onto them as we near the endgame

Syn just has like
no reason to townread him at all

and dizzy i still feel felt agenda-ey to me the day vulgard died, even if they've explained their thought processes

I've been afraid to say it in case i'm wrong but arete's treatment of vulgard the day he died feels like arete is a villager

the way they started hard defending him as a possible night kill into slowly realizing that he was more or less lolcatting near end of day and the paranoid posts when vulgard was silent feels very very villagey from arete

I dont think arete is the last wolf currently

Nutella, if you are town, just know vulgard talked about you and arete in much the same way
all he said is you are both villagers
he gave no reasons for you, and the only reason for arete was "Soulread"
so idk

which did end up being a tmi read if c4 is town

IMMEDIATELY after that read which felt like a TMI read he says
"On c4/dya, I think v/w is possible after all but I'm leaning toward c4 being the wolf if anything. Dya's play is too overtly bad in hindsight to come from a wolf fmpov. They suicided into a VT who wasn't playing the game, for two phases, and did nothing else. Is their wolfgame that awful?"

he spends most of the time talking about those two pretending like he thinks c4 is the wolf and spf as either a villager or the partner so that kinda came out of left field

i posted this earlier but like

"SPF/c4 might be w/v in c4's favor. I could see the hard shield being a pocket. Remember their day 1 interaction? C4 came in dancing around an early wolfread on SPF and SPF ended up townreading him for it. I could see a world where she's trying to pocket someone who wolfread her opener. She herself admitted that he's good at reading her, so she might be trying to fool him specifically."

(once again altered so as not to be a direct copy/paste)

this kinda feels like TMI in the case of spf actually flipping wolf so he looks towny

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:36 pm

Marluxion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:33 pm Vulgard mentions multiple times and makes notes of things he wants to ask TO SPF when day starts, not out of theater range but doesn't really feel w/w

any more detail on this?

He wanted to ask SPF about her shielding on c4
he talked about the two of them a lot for what feels like almost no reason if both of them are town

Paraphrased, but very close to what was actually posted in the neighborhood:

"C4's leaps and thoughts are incomprehensible to me. That said, he's been townread by people who know his meta well, namely SPF and a couple of others. If he's W then he's been metashielded for no reason and in that case SPF's wolf equity skyrockets. I'd say he's wolfier than dya, because dya's play makes no sense to me from a scum POV. C4's play could be that of a brazen, somewhat tunnely wolf. Dya has been almost noncontributive outside of the Alison read. Meanwhile c4 has contributes a few things here and there but has only been voting for dya iirc. Has he ever voted elsewhere?"

"I think tangrowth was incredibly villagery based on the readlist she posted."

Vulgard also makes a point of pushing that Dizzy is never a wolf with Kza

Arete wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:04 pm @Marluxion

do you have anything to say about Vul's neighborhood spew that you haven't already

if Syn is a villager I think you are one of the more likely people to die tonight

uh
no
not really

Vulgard mentions multiple times and makes notes of things he wants to ask TO SPF when day starts, not out of theater range but doesn't really feel w/w

there was some soft defending of chloe when i was saying i was suspicious of them kinda similar to what they were doing for dya so i'm really just hoping this ends the game

plus it'd make sunbae's legacy god tier

the first 3 people vulgard talks about in the neighborhood are dya then c4 and spf
vulgard says several times "Nutella Is Just A Villager"

so that is probably the case

vulgard said it was "possible" that sunbae/visor contained a wolf when i said i thought that'd be the case if dyachei is w

ummm

vulgard also calls arete "Just a villager" similar to nutella, gives reasons for neither

it's like
a lot to dissect

Good Wallpost aroot

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

We can start here imo
tryharding starts if this is wrong

@Arete if you think the last lord is syn can you case Chloe for me

I want to see where your head is at and your thinking on them and I think of all 3 people in the slot you'd be beat at reading Chloe

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:37 am @Marluxion can you talk about aretes wolfgame when you get a chance

how does he normally treat wolfbros, does he like to bus? is he likely to ignore wolfbros until absolutely necessary?

I'm like the last person you want to hear talk about aretes wolfgame

If you read that iso from the game they linked you'll see I was the one shielding them on they day we yeeted them for the win (even if I did end up making the right vote in the end)

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:43 pm ride-or-die shielded a wolf

Ye
I've been in the same spot before
If you are w it really blows, but this doesn't prove you lack TMI or anything since the exact reason you'd do it if it doesn't save them from the yeet is to spew them town if you die or make it look like you don't have TMI from your overconfidence after

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:52 pm yeah plus syn's posts lmao i think it's just over

It really did feel weird how with very little info about the game state he was convinced dya was a villager. Like to the point where he was gambling on being yeeted today if they were mafia.

Feels like "if dya is going down I'm sure as hell not staying around to fight this alone" mentality kinda.

The curse of marl and dyachei never randing the same alignment continues

There's more in the neighborhood that I haven't gone over yet probably but that'll have to wait until tonight. I'll do some backreading as well if dya flips v. Neither should be necessary if they are a wolf though

@dyachei i'm more than willing to give you a chance but i just need your thought processes behind your reads whenever you get a chance

also odds are i'm dying tonight or tomorrow so there is very little point tinfoiling me yet
in making this message i hope it results in scum keeping me alive so i can joycat as i yeet them from this earth for underestimating my power

(but i'll probably just be dead)

day 1 vc implies nutella and spf are villagers, albeit this is very level 0
day 2 vc should be way way more telling if we get dyachei's flip, especially if they are a wolf since it was actually close

outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:35 am marl - need to decide if i think they can gambit this

i wish it were a gambit
being on the same scumteam as vulgard would be based

also only one person can win the neighborhood per night, it says so in the OP
the fact that nobody else claimed it (esp on the night that the quiz was super easy) should confirm the neighborhood chat is real

and there is like no reason other than wifom to neighborize your partner

the part i'm referring to is the "If tangrowth is a wolf" sentence

just the bolded bit is what i was talking about, weird how it doesn't really look bolded

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 1:23 pm The introduction to the readlist also looks very hard to fake from a wolf POV. It goes on about far more things than it needs to. If Tangrowth is a wolf, she decided to produce a high-quality wallpost for no reason. The only suspicion she faced at that point was a weak push from Arete and nobody asked for a readlist.

this line really irks me about tangrowth though
from vulgards pov tang SHOULD be a villager so why feel the need to word it like this?

@Syn you have anything resembling a scumread yet? i'll take anything

me trying to keep dyachei as the main wagon until dyachei themself comes and towntells rather than just swapping out of slowgame paranoia

bronana wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:46 am what do you think of the possibility of arete/syn

The "FOL has replaced Marl with KZA" scumteam

i'm not opposed to maybe going syn today but i need more from dyachei on their thought processes to why they think chloe/syn/tan is scum

if dya is v i think nut is >>rand w as well prob

nutellas posting has been really bad since day 2

if syn is town PROBABLY Arete but idfk
i think bronana is a wolf if both chloe and dyachei are town actually

idk
it seems like everyone's wim is low, so my motivation to put in a lot of work is lacking too
not even a whole page in the 10 hours since i slept

prob go syn after dyachei if they are wolf
probably spf if dya is town unless dya has any specific direction they want us to go

I kinda dont want to believe it's arete vulgard but i could definitely see it as a possibility

the Arete Vulgard godrand getting fucked by a random jailkeep would be heartbreaking

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:55 am I feel like Im wasting my time looking at vulgard's iso...which i think only arete is also doing?

have not looked at his iso yet, i'm focused on the neighborhood for now since only i can see it

the real moment of truth is whether they'll kill amy or me
do they kill the IC or the pseudo IC who has access to more wolf spew

[VOTE: Dyachei] aubergine

fair enough

like
i just wish we had majority to wrap up this day quicker if dyachei is an inevitability

vulgard said he "could see c4 being a villager but at this time it is less likely than dyachei being a villager"

Arete wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:17 am Dizzy probably isn't partnered with Vul

disagree
i still think their posting yesterday heavily tried to get aggression on to me instead of to vul until it was clear vulgard was going over no matter what