The Syndicate

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:05 pm

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:40 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:21 pm Every time I get back to the thread wildfire just keeps spreading and towns keep dying.

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:09 pm I could actually get behind Ozie for a yeet

[VOTE: Osie] aubergine

Literally no memory of them.


HONEY!! WHERE ARE YOU!?

She's like 20 away from post cap I'm sure she'll check in every now and then

Oh yeah, she went hyper mode yesterday.
Brain glitches are fun ^_^
It's like MissngNo appears in my brain sometimes

She states she's attempting to not try hard in games.

She ends up try harding anyways.

and i hate myself for it :' )
but i literally cannot stand when people make up lies about me and try to damage my character

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:48 am

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HK towny because fully in town meta.

Nanook Towny because scum either would have TMI that it hasn't been fucked with or TMI that it has and wouldn't want to point it out. No scumpov to it.

Alison towny because she's been towny and if an actual town kidnapped someone like Alison I'mma vote them.

Mac has been kinda towny but I hedge bets super easily.

LC's hard defense of Honey is more about being maybe pocketed by Honey than anything else.

Spoiler: show

Osi is nice and solvy, I just like their posts.
Scotty's reaction to being put on trial kinda bleeds town but never seen him play red so maaaaaybe in wolf range. Unlikely
Garden Gnome is inno child. Also cute. Might be being affected.

please point to where i've pocketed LC at any point, I outted a meta TR on him which by definition is meta not pocketing I have also said several times i'm not going to over defend people from suspicion because idk if theyre mafia or not and i think they should defend themselves but yeah i'm surely a pocketer

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:07 am

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EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:44 am Towny:
hollowkatt
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Alison

<- No wolves above this line

Kinda towny:
MacDougall
Lime Coke
osieorb18
Scotty
Garden Gnome

Null:
honey - But Lime and TH agree towny
lost monkey - But Mac says he town
Flea the Magician - Maybe spewed town? Need to reread spew
listo95 - But has been towny

POE:
TripleHaven
Dolby
Creature
TonyStarkPrime

Michelle interactions:
Early interaction and vote for HK (Not a vote to be taken seriously)
Has genuine interactions with Honey
Changes vote to Osi > No direct interaction
Questions LC, TH, HK
Soft-tls TSP
Calls me Agenda-y and votes
Says Creature Scum (Doesn't move vote) > Weird attack on Creature when he voted right after her on my wagon > Still doesn't move vote calls me w/w with Creature
Questions LC who agrees with her Creature scumread
Prompts Gnome for reads
Gets combatative with Seanzie
Tries to get Creature to out reads
Jokingly tells Nanook to sheep Mac > This is a good look for Mac
TR Mansnicks/Mac/HK SR Creature/Ender
Lots of aggro with Seanzie > He would be 100% spewed town if he didn't die
Really sure of Creature but never actually tries to get votes there
Goes back to pushing me and tries to imply that I know Creature is town
Absolutely never w/w with Flea
Scum-says things about Scotty then defends him when I aggro Scotty near EOD
Does reminder that TH is apparently "In town meta"
Does aggro onto Scotty when he votes offwagon - Interesting
95% town on Osi > Votes LoMo - This feels like a Vanity wagon to avoid being on a green flip
Goes back to scum creature read > Half-defends Listo > HARD defends HK
Gets in a quibble with Nanook > Spews Nanook town imo
Looks like she tries to set me up for ml next day or something

I reckon she may have spewed Creature wolf there tbh. Constant wolf reads and incriminations but never any attempt to push it.
TH is hardly removed from sus
TSP is possibly more spewed wolf > Attempted tr
Dolby gets almost no space in her entire ISO

How are these supposed to be clearing from Michelle, Mac?

That makes no fucking sense.

Nanook/Flea/Honey look to be hard-spewed town tho.

wow crazy how when you actually read you see im town absolutely wild how effective reading can be guys!!!

Honestly what was the point in dolby shooting tsp when tsp had like 7 votes? Dolby's shot and full claim today feels entirely performative and if dolby is actually town he gave the wolves a huge advantage by doing that.

Part of me thinks TSP is an actual wolf but showing a town flip because it seemed like legit open wolfing when he was going back and forth with me it seemed like he was baiting me to go over post cap and then when he posted
i just gave up talking to him because the majority of my iso today was dedicated to hk's claim and as a top poster i think it's really disingenuous of him to say i'm keeping my opinions secret. He made no attempt to actually read my posts but that's becoming all to familiar to me in this game which drops my motivation to play if nobody cares enough to read. it's max 100 posts per 2 days like come on. TSP if you were actually town you still deserved everything you got there's some constructive feedback for u.
it's almost as if nobody had a solid reason for tring alison other than the way she posts and her tone which is NAI and something she could do as either alignment
i started leaning alison town after i read a post game on MU where sara chidoun had town tunneled alexa and alisons tunnel felt more like that to me especially when mac tried to blitz me and eod1 with her and she was like 'wait lemme actually read honey's posts.. oh some of this is towny'
i just think it's dumb how willing some people are to sheep her i guarantee if she's town she doesnt want you to blindly sheep her she wants you to form your own reads opinions and pushes so she can read you so play ur own game and don't lean on her

if i was maf btw and alison or mac were town, one of them would've been dead 100% N1 and what i've learned from my stats class that means there's scum equity there. I do currently townlean alison but the kidnapping play could be scum/scum or scum/town. If youre scum why would you want your power player (alison) to get their hands dirty d2 and have them posting where there could be evidence building against them or you could keep them clean for a day. So i dont think people should take this solely as a scum aggression against town it could be s/s just keep that in mind. it would be optimal for scum to use kidnapping on alison if she was scum or town maybe they want her to blame it on me when she comes back idk.

I'm actually going to case mac though so stay tuned.

Dolby wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:32 am Ok HK dies

And he probs actually has a gun but it should do the same thing as Seanzie’s

do you think a gun that blows the shooter up is a town gun?

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:49 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:46 am I think the biggest thing that sucks here is it's super easy for wolves to vote me b/c "I have to be resolved" even though I do absolutely have to be resolved.

What ALSO sucks is that Dolby made the right shot, but if Dolby were mafia, they also would have made that same shot knowing it would hit town.

Though Dolby bumps up in my ranks because he didn’t have to shoot, coulda left this to be a mislynch on TSP, then we kill you tomorrow

actually maybe scotty is right because this is true unless dolby as wolf is afraid of hk getting another check off

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:04 pm Big sighs

Hk why did you think that was going to be a reliable check

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine its also about time for this i think

once again it's not like tsp was towny

lost monkey wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:52 pm Honey and lime have been cruizing this day so far with the absence of alison. I think whoever did that wanted us to see honey, especially in a bad light. Lime has some questionable posts and some good ones, on the fence on him. Has anyone owned up for shooting sean?

cruizing as in being able to present reads and opinions without having to be on defense for 24/7 with alison tunneling me over a double digit amount of posts?

lost monkey wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:54 pm Alison needs to be given the nk immunity. We need a leader and alison is perfect for it. If she is scum, as jay says she'll help lynch her teammates as well. So win-win there either way.

once again we don't need to sheep a leader if the people who are town don't act unnecessarily scummy and contribute

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:09 pm I could actually get behind Ozie for a yeet

[VOTE: Osie] aubergine

Literally no memory of them.


HONEY!! WHERE ARE YOU!?

no memory doesn't make them maf

i'm low on posts, no wim to play when nobody reads my posts, ppl think im scummy bc they think my tone is so good it's bad, and i have plans on sunday i needed to shop for an outfit for :3

i'm going to case mac now because i've been thinking about his ACTIONS and the scum equity is building
the one thing that makes me pause is his night visits

ok with the HK vs TSP thing mac somehow knew hollowkatt's report was not real or fake or lying but still trs hollowkatt and tred tsp i believe when tsp wasn't posting if this isnt the definition of tmi idk what is
d1 mac TRs me but when alison shows up and mentions my name he offers to cfd me when im asleep (idk what cfd means but it seems right in this context)
today he says im the scummiest ever based on my tone. i have 80+ posts and all he has is that my tone is scummy?? cos i for one know im not scummy since im town and there's no tmi to be found in what happened today.
i feel like my progression and the 6 other people voting tsp's progression was the most natural way to read the redcheck and i tried to imagine what my progression would be as wolf if i knew both TSP and HK were town i would want to not get my hands dirty and be involved.
finally why was falcon killed n1? he was sussed by several people on d1

eh i went to iso falcon to see if it was damning for mac and not that much, he did challenge mac in the end but left us with this legacy which is more damning for scotty gnome and hk but i tred some of gnomes posts today and i really dont know

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:10 am Scotty, Gnome, HK


Lynch or shoot in this pool plz.


Low posters also solid VK shots IMO, anyone less than 20 IMO

i also saw one of hks post where his top scumpool was mansnicks, limecoke and me on d1 i know mans is town, i know im town, and i have a meta read LC is town although i wish he'd post more
bleh

i feel like i'll be tred for this post because i'm so monotone but i want you all to know when my tone is like this it's because i'm not having a good time.

The only fun I’m deriving from this is teasing mac when he tries to point his blade at me

TSP I’m convinced youre just open wolfing now to get me to post cap, if you actually care I talked about the validity of the claim endlessly today in my 85 posts or so go have a look see and stop wasting our time otherwise i cant wait to attend ur funeral bai

I also literally said i hard shielded 2 mafia from being voted last game because i misread them this is only a problem for u if u cant manage to defend yourself and not be scummy as town

Not when theyre afk and dont defend tbemselves first seriously read my post?? Another unnecessary post for tsp

I think i have 20 posts left according to my math.. getting a little paranoid youre trying to make me go over dolby..


I said i could tinfoil the redcheck earlier but with you absent tsp i didnt see a point in considering other options as I dont defend afk ppl cos they could v likely be mafia And I wanted to see ur defense but u kept me waiting
Anyways heres the tinfoil
If hk rescinded and said it was a reaction test you couldve both been town hence why i asked hk if the redcheck was hard claimed
You said him dodging the hardclaim meant he was maf but to me he was dodging being soup ated before he full claimed

If mafia framed you also it could be a bad redcheck but when you look at the probability of mafia framing you it is not good

You are saying youre green and hk says youre red thats a cc

Cc= counterclaim = one person directly contradicts another’s claim

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:59 am [VOTE: honey] aubergine smh

You towntold some but youre not even voting your cc so it’s not currently worth my time to give you further consideration

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:00 am that's slightly more obnoxious than what HK is doing today and HK faked a red on me

What is more obnoxious? Mac threw a tantrum about my personality on the previous page and i was responding to it using his own words? Wanna spell it out for my tony cos i dont think you get it

Mac you call hk a fucking baby and then whine for post after post about how cute i am?? And then you call ME fake? Honestly obsessed but i love the attention

Mac if you dont know how to read people just say that

I literally hold all of your attention and have you so pressed for what??

PREYING on my paranoia I see right through you Scotty!!

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:58 pm And let’s say tsp was like “bus me fam I’m busy” in scum chat and HK does just that for cred, like TH is suggesting.

Ok, someone will probably shoot him at some point and resolve that.

OR he’s unkillable by any other means than lynching which like…that’s the only reason I can see him doing a gambit.

I’m willing to cross that bridge when we come to it and not try to jump across before we get there

we will literally know because hk made themself soup when they claimed but if tsp flips mafia i think 1 villager souped for 1 mafia elimned is very worth it i mean i dont think it was neccessary for hk to full claim and i think ppl should stop (dolby???) but yeah

i *CAN* tinfoil this since there's bastard stuff we dont know about but i dont wanna do that this claim seems pure tsp does not seem pure and tinfoiling is not fun

not to dumbtell or anything but how much mafia are there

we have no reason to believe tsp is town; plus they teased a 100 post day and have failed we cannot reward failure

more arrows point to hk town and tsp maf

in what universe does mafia make this play d2 lol

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:40 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:37 pm

honey wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:33 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:27 pm [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

wanna share what you're seeing?

I mean I kinda have

He’s claimed at express danger of a soup kill when he could have just shot his gun and been safe from a soup kill, and pretty much got clear off the shot, with probable night kill immunity for N2. He’s put himself in danger of multiple gun shots from possible townies, though I still don’t know who Seanzie wanted to shoot.

At this point it’s def not a reaction test, he walked past that window when he said that he did have a real check after Mac went after him for a rescind

I have no gun and I must scream.

it's ok i believe you
if ur lying you'll make me sad tho but i'm committed 2 seeing this thru right meow

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:37 pm

honey wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:33 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:27 pm [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

wanna share what you're seeing?

I mean I kinda have

He’s claimed at express danger of a soup kill when he could have just shot his gun and been safe from a soup kill, and pretty much got clear off the shot, with probable night kill immunity for N2. He’s put himself in danger of multiple gun shots from possible townies, though I still don’t know who Seanzie wanted to shoot.

At this point it’s def not a reaction test, he walked past that window when he said that he did have a real check after Mac went after him for a rescind

he says he has no gun which voids most of this and i think he had a real progression on his push on tsp, he didnt hardclaim right from the start and as mafia would he put himself in a direct cc like this? also tsp has not been towny at all today so idk why youre so quick to dismiss hk we should be looking at tsp legit

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:34 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:23 pm I’m getting soup killed for this

HK, Seanzie, and myself were all intended gun recipients last night. This is a random 3, and non-exhaustive.

I did receive a gun

HK’s and Seanzie’s guns came from the same source

I don't have a gun or TSP would already be dead

i literally had this thought when i read dolby's post

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:56 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:47 pm

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:49 pm

honey wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:41 pm good job hk, you will get pets after we scum flip tsp but we gotta do that first

HK's attitude leaves much to be desired.
I'm going here for now, since this is scum and HK is a whole lot of bad attitude.
[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Ah yes, the begrudging bus of a teammate because their goose is cooked.

Side note, one thanksgiving we were visiting family in Indiana and someone hit and ran on a deer outside their farm. So we find the deer dying in the woods, relative puts it out of its misery and tried skinning and cooking it to not let it go to waste. Well, it had some sort of parasite so we had to let it go anyway and LO AND BEHOLD a goose died right outside an hour before dinner and they threw that in the fryer and we had that as an addendum to our normal turkey and it was pretty damned good

Do you have an actual scumread on me or are you just sheeping HK's bad read?
The dinner does sound delicious, however. The goose, for sure, was cooked.

what do you think of michelle's interactions with you?

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:27 pm [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

wanna share what you're seeing?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:58 pm

honey wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:45 pm I was targeted by at least 4 abilities last night. One of which was definitely mafia.

brag more

Well you got more than 1 visit apparently...

Even if one of them wasn't on purpose apparently?

i dont wanna know.. 0> )

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:54 pm

honey wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:52 pm

listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:46 pm

honey wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:44 pm i like hesitantly wanted to out a tr on listo and seanzie earlier but i was afraid of townreading maf which i did last game and shielded them from srs and then seanzie died and flipped town so..

*ahem* i think listo is town

You are one of the rare people who manage to TR me from my EoD vote analysis lol.

But this is what I meant D1 when I said I need more info to really get anywhere >.>

i need to reread it with the info i have now to see if it still holds up bc my srs from my analysis has changed-ender was my conclusion and he seems p fine right now? and hollowcat was my other sus from eod analysis

Maybe it was t/t/t and wolves were just having fun?

I always hate this assumption that if a wolf voted a counterwagon to a leading wagon that leading wagon HAS to be a wolf.

i mean that's just what happened last game cw was vigged and flipped wolf so there is a basis..

listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:46 pm

honey wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:44 pm i like hesitantly wanted to out a tr on listo and seanzie earlier but i was afraid of townreading maf which i did last game and shielded them from srs and then seanzie died and flipped town so..

*ahem* i think listo is town

You are one of the rare people who manage to TR me from my EoD vote analysis lol.

But this is what I meant D1 when I said I need more info to really get anywhere >.>

i need to reread it with the info i have now to see if it still holds up bc my srs from my analysis has changed-ender was my conclusion and he seems p fine right now? and hollowcat was my other sus from eod analysis

owo does night kill immunity extend to soup kills?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:44 pm Hey remember how I said this was HK town meta?

This is HK town meta.

tbf mac said this too and now look at him

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:42 pm I lied again, I'm too lazy to make 30 one word posts.

yes! my pleading worked

i like hesitantly wanted to out a tr on listo and seanzie earlier but i was afraid of townreading maf which i did last game and shielded them from srs and then seanzie died and flipped town so..

*ahem* i think listo is town

noooo dont leave

good job hk, you will get pets after we scum flip tsp but we gotta do that first

if hk was >rand going to die why would they use neighborizer when they could possibly leave a redcheck for us tho

my brain is smooth and squishy =^__^=

my brain is smooth and squishy =^__^=

my no was for scotty's question heeehee =P

NO! TSP *IS* scummy i'm keeping my vote and advocating for tsp to get voted out

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:29 pm what hk is doing is VERY CLEARLY an attempt to safe face

i hate it here you guys are PULLING me in every direction

n-no?

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:19 pm @honey Mac just confscum'd themselves with the twist on Katt wolf bait.

Go back and look at the reactions around it, at how much crap is being flung up around to disprove the red check.

idk didn't seem like that far of a reach and he was super passionate and ate-y about it but with hk hardclaiming they're all kinda in check right now and cc's with each other
i dont know what's actually going on and i could see these thing flipping any way

like it seemed like hk was dodging when they went to go eat but now that they're back and doubling down they've made it an absolute i cant see mafia doing i said this earlier to mac but he refuted it

my issue is i dont have an ego besides town entitlement and i listen too much maybe if mac is the scum here but that also doesnt explain all the weird stuff that happened to mac and some of it seems mafia led i have some other things that are pinging me as doubts but w/e i dont wanna fall any deeper in this rabbit hole

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:17 pm Backreading now apparently I missed a shit ton.

yea idk how to help, u kinda just have to read bc i cant figure out a way to paraphrase all that happened..

mac hk rose from the dead

idk i'm inclined to believe a claim [VOTE: tonystarkprime] aubergine

nobody else should full claim though also tony hasnt been participating so

HK showed up and now I'm confused

this is a gambit? right seanzie? seanzie come back!!! dont go into the light

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:22 pm

A Shot Rings! Seanzie is the one who shot it!

Seanzie has died.

Seanzie was Town

► Show Spoiler

You win when all mafia aligned players are eliminated.

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As Town Jack Of All Trades, you have access to one or more actions. Don't have to use in any specific order

x3 Gambit Designer
This is a day action. Come up with a gambit and tell your plan to the host if it requires in-thread confirmation by the host and the host will do so.
You must tell what exactly the host must post to confirm your gambit in the thread.
This does not mean that you will earn or inherit whatever fake claims you come up with, this action can only be used to make your gambit look legit. You cannot Gambit Innocent Child or anything that requires the host to confirm directly or indirectly your alignment.

x1 Armor Smith
The Armorsmith may each night give a player a Bulletproof vest. The vest will protect the target from one kill, and the target will be informed that they received the vest (and also when they lose it). The Armorsmith may not self-target.

x1 Day JOAT Cop
The JOAT Cop may at day investigate a player and learn that player's role JOAT set (but will not learn their alignment). This action will resolve immediately.

You got a limited amount of Gambit Designer, Armorsmith and JOAT cop uses.

WHAT

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:16 pm Off to dinner, please don't forget to wolf read me for being "frozen"

on it

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:57 pm I fired at HK.

Oh, well that makes sense, since you are scum reading him.

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:13 pm mac is probably locktown because a town gun giver already flipped, and there probably isn't another town one.

my thoughts too, i think the gun giver is maf but i dont know how much they know about his role considering what he's saying happened to his abilities

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:10 pm btw honey it didn't randomize

what do u know lol
yea i didnt submit anything myself cos i didnt know that was a thing and obv my card was amazing

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:09 pm

honey wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:06 pm I actually had a beefy as fuck role too. Now I am neg utility.

does this mean if the gun was a maf gun and they know what happens if you fire it that you get converted or whatever are they going to soup you now?

They had stolen one of my abilities so they were going to probably soup me before. If they know what roles they gave me now then yeh I'll die.

if maf can steal abilities and then figure out who has what that sounds extremely op