The Syndicate

Oh hey...we got the win...

Great job town!

I...played horrifically and didn't have that great of a time...kind of on me but bleh.

Hopefully these get better and I can actually be helpful.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:10 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:48 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:45 am
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:05 am
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:57 am would even go as far as suggesting that if it's LYLO and it's roxy + one of scotty or lime + whoever, roxy is the one clear and not them
i amend this after looking again at lpp's ISO

i think scotty is clear-clear
Ah ok.

You know, we could be off on the Lime Coke clearing game, if we put the pieces together.

Because even if Lime Coke was jailed/blocked on N2, dunya could very easily have put in the kill, and probably did.
Lime was both tracked and jailkept on n3. Look at LPP’s ISO start of d3. He said he was tunneling Lime at night but then as the sun rose it clicked Lime was town. That’s a pretty obvious track.

I think it’s likely wolves just did some ill-advised bussing and the wolf is one of Syn or Jack.
Thunal, if I'm jailkept I can't do actions or be on the receiving end of actions...so if DDL jailkept me then LPP wouldn't have even gotten a result from me.

Also he was literally still trying to tunnel me start of Day 3 he didn't start thinking I was town until DDL said I was town.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:48 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:45 am
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:05 am
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:57 am would even go as far as suggesting that if it's LYLO and it's roxy + one of scotty or lime + whoever, roxy is the one clear and not them
i amend this after looking again at lpp's ISO

i think scotty is clear-clear
Ah ok.

You know, we could be off on the Lime Coke clearing game, if we put the pieces together.

Because even if Lime Coke was jailed/blocked on N2, dunya could very easily have put in the kill, and probably did.
Lime was both tracked and jailkept on n3. Look at LPP’s ISO start of d3. He said he was tunneling Lime at night but then as the sun rose it clicked Lime was town. That’s a pretty obvious track.

I think it’s likely wolves just did some ill-advised bussing and the wolf is one of Syn or Jack.

Thunal, if I'm jailkept I can't do actions or be on the receiving end of actions...so if DDL jailkept me then LPP wouldn't have even gotten a result from me.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:47 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:49 am I am really sorry guys things got super busy for me the last couple of days so it's tough to get on here to do stuff and doesn't help that I'm still just... kinda lost.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:52 am [VOTE: scotty] aubergine

I still feel like this is a good guess actually.
My brother in Christ, you’re trapped in a corn maze the size of Jupiter

Well when you spend the last month or two playing like total shit, including this game, and you catch next to no fucking breaks or lose the game for town majority of the time... it gets to you.

Doesn't help that the rest of you are either barely posting or are posting relatively the same way or are low key trolling the game.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:56 am Er, no. It’s commented by Thunal that DDL probably jailed Lime on N3. Can someone show me the receipts on that implication?

Also just had a sobering thought of what if Long Con and Thunal are actually wolf/3p shielding each other without blowback and the actual Kip/Lafawndah are just…missing the plot

But that’s all it is- a nightmarish daydream. That wouldn’t actually happen.

The... fact that DDL spent the entire game tunneling me... including pairing me with Dunya. Then immediately after Dunya gets yeeted he's calling me town out of nowhere and is speaking in definites about it.

With only 1 maf left alive him jailing me would've just blocked the kill then.

[VOTE: syn] aubergine

Eh, fuck it, let's ride.

Like nothing I did was out of the ordinary... and seeing how things are going after the Dunya yeet... what exactly would you expect to happen?

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:15 amlmao so outing

...how?

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:04 am...

Tbh I don't fucking know either man I was half way considering voting you since idk how long I can run with "Wisdom spewed him town by pushing him" as my read on you.

Ironically Scotty is kinda making me consider it.

Not Thunal since maybe towny also SVS died with a hard townread there.

Maybe not Roxy?

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

I still feel like this is a good guess actually.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:49 am I am really sorry guys things got super busy for me the last couple of days so it's tough to get on here to do stuff and doesn't help that I'm still just... kinda lost.

Also kinda dreading solving the game since fuck me I am not feeling too confident.

I am really sorry guys things got super busy for me the last couple of days so it's tough to get on here to do stuff and doesn't help that I'm still just... kinda lost.

If someone wants to explain to me how Syd isn't spewed by Wisdom then feel free to shoot your shot.

Eh Thunal I'm still listening to SVS on.

Syd still spewed towny imo.

Maaaaannnn... do I vote Jack here?

Contemplating it.

Could be him.

Hmmm

I'm still king for a day

I'm king for a day.

Like the only other answer I could see is bussing happened but I don't see who that would be unless the person doing it had no business doing it.
Unless the person still had the WIM going for them afterwards but still they don't feel like they'd be mafia.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:53 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 2:28 am Vote count with about 16 hours left in Day 4:

Spoiler: show
le petit poussin
1
10%
Voters: Spacedaisy
Lime Coke
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
3
30%
Voters: Syn, Dragon D. Luffy, Lime Coke
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
Roxy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
Spacedaisy
3
30%
Voters: Le petit poussin, Scotty, Jackofhearts2005
Syn
0
No votes
Voters: None
Thunal33
1
10%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Got a tie between Daisy and Long Con. I don’t hate it

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:23 am Guys

What if dunya pushed a wagon on teammate Jack just to create a fake spew since she knew she was going down

Wild if true

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:55 am [VOTE: unvote] aubergine

For now... maybe last chance LC.
Guys.... lol. Guys.

There may be one or two other "hard defenses" going on in this game, I don't know. Don't be too trusting!

But you need to stop being silly.

I mean it's the only ones that seem to make sense.

Problem is idk who to vote besides Daisy.

Mostly pulling back because I'm seeing Thunal hard defending there.

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

For now... maybe last chance LC.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:25 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:24 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:18 am Being vaguely in my POE at one point, which I revised fairly quickly after that due to reading dunya’s posts is nowhere even close to pushing Syn.
OTOH I thought she was trying to appeal to Syn when he voted her/scumread her?
He voted me? I’m pretty sure he was on Nook when I made my posts.

Oh I thought you were talking about Dunya there...disregard.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:18 am Being vaguely in my POE at one point, which I revised fairly quickly after that due to reading dunya’s posts is nowhere even close to pushing Syn.

OTOH I thought she was trying to appeal to Syn when he voted her/scumread her?

Like Thunal's iso starts off rough but she brings it back entirely with Day 2 and yeah...

Spoiler: show

Welcome to a moment in history...

TLDR Thunal town.

Scooter can be left alone.

Thunal... I don't want to iso but I might have to.

LPP towny

Spaced also might need to read iso.

That shouldn't have been posted yet.

Spaced
LPP
Scotty
Thunal

Am I missing anyone?

Town:
Dragon
Syn
Jibay
Roxy

Townlean:
Jack
Nanook

Sus:
LC

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:59 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:42 pm dunya voters: Dragon D. Luffy, Scotty, Roxy, S~V~S, Syn

Jackofhearts2005 voters: Long Con, Spacedaisy, Lime Coke, dunya, Thunal33

Lime Coke voters: Jibay, Le petit poussin, Jackofhearts2005

Thunal33 voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Quoting to have this in sight immediately.

Fucking different page.

TBH I feel like Long Con and DDL have like the same playstyle, aka find some sort of push with a decent amount of explanation...LC is more direct towards players I guess is the main difference?

This game DDL has been massively active, LC is a bit more spotty and I don't remember much of a push from him but I may need to check him to see if I missed hard on that assessment.

There's a chance Long Con was trying to pocket me in order to get towns yeeted...tbh it's shocking people don't try this as mafia but eh... he was sorta hamming it up but I didn't care at the time...I could care now.

I'm hesitant to voting him because of the LC connection... which at this rate is basically just cheap ass WIFI.

Yeah Dunya kept poking at Nanook and mentioning him/voting him saying "pay attention to this" at EOD.
Won't vote there today...Nook can distance but maybe wasn't interacted enough with Dunya to get anything going or suspicious enough.

Roxy probably wouldn't bus a teammate while only posting 2 times a day phase and is getting scumread by one of the players... even if he has negative thread pull.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:03 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:01 am Oh SVS town I missed her in the batch of names.
Shes dead

So I was right!

Jack I don't think I vote today

Oh SVS town I missed her in the batch of names.

Dragon town

Syn spewed town and voted correctly.

I'm believing in the "Jibay would've done more if teamed with Dunya" read as well...

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:42 pm dunya voters: Dragon D. Luffy, Scotty, Roxy, S~V~S, Syn

Jackofhearts2005 voters: Long Con, Spacedaisy, Lime Coke, dunya, Thunal33

Lime Coke voters: Jibay, Le petit poussin, Jackofhearts2005

Thunal33 voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Quoting to have this in sight immediately.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:37 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:29 am @Scotty

If you want more added to Syn being town Wisdom kinda tried to push him early in her game Day 1 so yeah. He's probably just town.
She did forget about it mid D1 though (that's also why I was sussing you yesterday, didn't get to post it but the fact u didn't recognize that weirded me out. Because when I tryed to figure SYn I couldn't just lock him town yesterday like you did somehow... anyway moving on)

THe point about Syn is I really don't see him hell bus his last partner. dunya out of all people.

The stuff with Wisdom pushing Syn was off of memory though, I didn't look at Wisdom's iso for that...nor have I looked at her iso at all since people have said basing your reads off of spew is a bad idea... and kind of have experienced it.

And pretty much lock town'd him since that was really the only read with any reasoning that I had.

@Scotty

If you want more added to Syn being town Wisdom kinda tried to push him early in her game Day 1 so yeah. He's probably just town.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:25 pm We are NOT killing Lime Coke today. The odds of him being mafia are practically zero.

I... okay thanks that wasn't what I was expecting?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:01 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:00 pm Well I hope it goes to Jack because I really think dunya is town now. It's nice to have someone else expressing some of the reads I feel because i was kind of starting to think I was crazy.
she has had awfull positionning the whole day. tone reading her town at EOD is dumb. she has incredible range people. I swear

She hates playing as mafia dude, she probably wouldn't even bother with trying.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:59 pm Tiebreaker kill dunya if you are in doubt. The odds are the best here

Then vote me instead Jesus christ dude

Vote me or Jack. Never vote Dunya.

[VOTE: jack] aubergine

Fine

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:47 pm @Lime Coke join the dunya wagon ! don't worry

Nope, don't want to be in this.

@Dragon D. Luffy

I swear to fucking God if you continue to go after Dunya after today.
Fucking re-evaluate Dragon.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:05 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:14 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:23 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:01 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:28 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:00 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:30 pm

It's the second time someone unvotes you to vote dunya instead, and you take issue with it. Why not dunya?

No. It's Lime or dunya. If Lime is town, he can't be too opposed to killing dunya, whose alignment he does not know for sure.
It's because I townread her strongly and I don't want her dead...fucking hell I'd rather you actually kill me and not kill her in the game at this rate.
Well that's an answer at least. Thanks.

Question: as a townie do you normally post town/mafia reads without explaining why? Because you have done that A LOT here, and it's one thing that is making people suspect you, so I want to confirm it.
Trust me I don't like it either and if I could explain shit or add more to what I have I completely would. Like this isn't me trolling it or fucking around it's just...how it is.
Can you answer the question plz?
I... did?

If it's off of just posting in the game itself and I have a unique reason or I can actually put it into words, then yes.
If it's meta related, no. I refuse to give anyone information on what I have with people's meta because I don't want to give them a way to adapt and fuck me over in future games.

I like to keep my advantages on people so that I can at least look good if I catch them as a wolf and help them out when I find them as town and work with them.
What I mean is, when you are town, do you normally have trouble giving reasons to your reads, or is it just this game?

Well recently, as in the last 3 or 4 months after I took a sight break from mafia, I've been having trouble with 1. Explaining my reads and 2. Actually gaining anything I'm reading during the games in order to form a read on people.

It's also been kinda rough for me because I've had some really really shitty performances as town the entire time. For multiple reasons. And I haven't been given much help beyond "you should take a break!" in terms of what I should be doing to help me out of this fucking horrific spell which is fucking useless because I sorta want to actually play and it gives me no actual advice.

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