Napoleon Dynamite Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Long Con]

@Lime Coke pal use ur power smh

I want to talk about this. If this is the result of LPP seeing Lime visit someone, Lime is 3p.

There are no town roles left that could possibly have visited someone at any point in the game except the masons.

Pedro - treestump
Grandma - VT
Ilene - ties
Trisha - told if person she voted for is Napoleon

LPP could not have seen Lime visit anyone on n3 because Lime was jailkept. But if this ping is the result of him seeing Lime visit someone on n1 (can't have been n2 because of no double targeting), Lime is 3p.

Solid reasoning. [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

[Thunal33]

@Lime Coke pal use ur power smh

I want to talk about this. If this is the result of LPP seeing Lime visit someone, Lime is 3p.

There are no town roles left that could possibly have visited someone at any point in the game except the masons.

Pedro - treestump
Grandma - VT
Ilene - ties
Trisha - told if person she voted for is Napoleon

LPP could not have seen Lime visit anyone on n3 because Lime was jailkept. But if this ping is the result of him seeing Lime visit someone on n1 (can't have been n2 because of no double targeting), Lime is 3p.

Solid reasoning. [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Actually it isn't, I just realized. :P

LPP was afk until d2 and said he completely forgot about the game. He very likely didn't have an action n1 so it was impossible for him to have tracked Lime before n3.

[Thunal33]

Anyway I want to actually dig in and put in effort to try to make the right choice tomorrow.

Mostly saying this because saying it might motivate me to do it.

[Scotty]

@Lime Coke pal use ur power smh

I want to talk about this. If this is the result of LPP seeing Lime visit someone, Lime is 3p.

There are no town roles left that could possibly have visited someone at any point in the game except the masons.

Pedro - treestump
Grandma - VT
Ilene - ties
Trisha - told if person she voted for is Napoleon

LPP could not have seen Lime visit anyone on n3 because Lime was jailkept. But if this ping is the result of him seeing Lime visit someone on n1 (can't have been n2 because of no double targeting), Lime is 3p.

Ooooooo good catch, I like this theory

[Scotty]

@Lime Coke pal use ur power smh

I want to talk about this. If this is the result of LPP seeing Lime visit someone, Lime is 3p.

There are no town roles left that could possibly have visited someone at any point in the game except the masons.

Pedro - treestump
Grandma - VT
Ilene - ties
Trisha - told if person she voted for is Napoleon

LPP could not have seen Lime visit anyone on n3 because Lime was jailkept. But if this ping is the result of him seeing Lime visit someone on n1 (can't have been n2 because of no double targeting), Lime is 3p.

Solid reasoning. [VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Actually it isn't, I just realized. :P

LPP was afk until d2 and said he completely forgot about the game. He very likely didn't have an action n1 so it was impossible for him to have tracked Lime before n3.

Ooooooo good catch, I like this theory too

[Scotty]

Ah, yeah. That was le petit just informing us that he was tracking lime coke last night. Probably? Not a lot of info to gain from that.

But anyway, thunal. What do you think of the wolf assessment?

[Syn]

idk why I'd lackadaisically defend wisdom as wolf, lose her to a dayvig, and then immediately hellbus my remaining partner the next day

(A) You presumably didn’t know Wisdom was going to be dayvigged.
(B) Seeing your partner go down as such, it stands to reason that you decided to take the opposite approach and hellbus dunya

On the note of B, spot the difference between the following suspicions (presented in order):

Spoiler: show

Scotty:

through careful science, I have deduced scotty is a wolf

oh right I forgot to do the vote tags

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

let's go. town sweep

Lime Coke:

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Jack:

I can get behind a jack chop though

actually I do question thunal thinking falcon's post was outing. she's played like a hundred games and someone messing around on d1 when they're a lead wagon is almost never lolcatting/giving up

Le petit:

I have no strong feelings about this game. someone do something provocative

Ok.

[VOTE: Jibay] aubergine

I want to chop Rask so I can't judge this very hard

ANYWAY

SYN GIVE ME SOME HOT TAKES
Preferably but not required mafia-related

rask is no-posting because he's wolf and doesn't know his teammates

Thunal:

nevermind rask can rot

[VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

Dunya:

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

she deserves it tbh, she defended you at EOD. Made me unvote you. Sentencing her with death seems right.

(seriously why?)

I don't believe the reasoning behind her defense, and that I'm her "top town read"

there's no way

Everyone should send music to symphony. It's the best categories in all the years I've done it. JOIN OR ELSE

that's not what you said in private about them

wolfy

Scotty has excellent tone. still null because I feel this isn't the type of player you tone read

he's always a golden retriever

good to know

speak to me about dunya.

french, yet overly conciliatory

has no reason to actually defend me, went hard to bat for me

I'm doing nothing and am not even interacting with her. she should want to launch me into the sun (soleil soleil soleil)

also the whole "it would be too ballsy to act the way syn is acting if he's wolf" thing just does not parse. meaningless sentence

dunya wolfing awoooo

leading wagon. gee. i wonder how this started...

meeeee :3

Nook:

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Long Con:

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Also I just wanted to add some excitement since I was abandoned on nanook

Nook:

idk where you're all getting these clears from but I'll sheep onto nook since I already wanted him dead yippee

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

So notice anything with the quality of his suspicions in the game?

Here’s what I see:
He starts D3 by voting for dunya, has a flurry of posts that are condemning her.
After she’s gone? Back to his lackadaisical voting patterns voting with trite or unexplained reasoning.

He knew she was bad…because he *knew* she was bad.


AND

He wasn’t even around for the eod where dunya went down. Dunya BARELY got yeeted. We don’t know what syn would have done in the waning moments if he were around.

I'm not really going to make up reasons to vote other people. my case on dunia was specifically and directly requested by petit. before then my vote had just as much rigor as the other votes

[Syn]

@Lime Coke pal use ur power smh

I want to talk about this. If this is the result of LPP seeing Lime visit someone, Lime is 3p.

There are no town roles left that could possibly have visited someone at any point in the game except the masons.

Pedro - treestump
Grandma - VT
Ilene - ties
Trisha - told if person she voted for is Napoleon

LPP could not have seen Lime visit anyone on n3 because Lime was jailkept. But if this ping is the result of him seeing Lime visit someone on n1 (can't have been n2 because of no double targeting), Lime is 3p.

i am 95% certain lime was jailkept n1 and again n3

[Syn]

idk why I'd lackadaisically defend wisdom as wolf, lose her to a dayvig, and then immediately hellbus my remaining partner the next day

(A) You presumably didn’t know Wisdom was going to be dayvigged.
(B) Seeing your partner go down as such, it stands to reason that you decided to take the opposite approach and hellbus dunya

On the note of B, spot the difference between the following suspicions (presented in order):

Spoiler: show

Scotty:

through careful science, I have deduced scotty is a wolf

oh right I forgot to do the vote tags

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

let's go. town sweep

Lime Coke:

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Jack:

I can get behind a jack chop though

actually I do question thunal thinking falcon's post was outing. she's played like a hundred games and someone messing around on d1 when they're a lead wagon is almost never lolcatting/giving up

Le petit:

I have no strong feelings about this game. someone do something provocative

Ok.

[VOTE: Jibay] aubergine

I want to chop Rask so I can't judge this very hard

ANYWAY

SYN GIVE ME SOME HOT TAKES
Preferably but not required mafia-related

rask is no-posting because he's wolf and doesn't know his teammates

Thunal:

nevermind rask can rot

[VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

Dunya:

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

she deserves it tbh, she defended you at EOD. Made me unvote you. Sentencing her with death seems right.

(seriously why?)

I don't believe the reasoning behind her defense, and that I'm her "top town read"

there's no way

Everyone should send music to symphony. It's the best categories in all the years I've done it. JOIN OR ELSE

that's not what you said in private about them

wolfy

Scotty has excellent tone. still null because I feel this isn't the type of player you tone read

he's always a golden retriever

good to know

speak to me about dunya.

french, yet overly conciliatory

has no reason to actually defend me, went hard to bat for me

I'm doing nothing and am not even interacting with her. she should want to launch me into the sun (soleil soleil soleil)

also the whole "it would be too ballsy to act the way syn is acting if he's wolf" thing just does not parse. meaningless sentence

dunya wolfing awoooo

leading wagon. gee. i wonder how this started...

meeeee :3

Nook:

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Long Con:

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Also I just wanted to add some excitement since I was abandoned on nanook

Nook:

idk where you're all getting these clears from but I'll sheep onto nook since I already wanted him dead yippee

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

So notice anything with the quality of his suspicions in the game?

Here’s what I see:
He starts D3 by voting for dunya, has a flurry of posts that are condemning her.
After she’s gone? Back to his lackadaisical voting patterns voting with trite or unexplained reasoning.

He knew she was bad…because he *knew* she was bad.


AND

He wasn’t even around for the eod where dunya went down. Dunya BARELY got yeeted. We don’t know what syn would have done in the waning moments if he were around.

I'm not really going to make up reasons to vote other people. my case on dunia was specifically and directly requested by petit. before then my vote had just as much rigor as the other votes

also, "it stands to reason" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. why would that stand to reason? the logical leap there doesn't make sense. I decide to be ballsy and just limply associate myself with my teammate for two days, she gets lit up by a dayvig suddenly, so the next day I go out of my way to kill my remaining partner? and then do nothing to try and gain cred from it and just move on? like lol. what

[Jibay]

@Jibay we need some thoughts from you, bud! The more talking, the better it will be to find names we can agree on!

@Roxy I know your patience with this game is thin, but we could use some expansion on your reads.

Obviously everyone should participate this go round, but we could definitely use input from those I tagged!! <3

Hi ! Rip , Nanook and LPP have some good rest

Sorry , I'm trying to talk more but my time isn't enough :'(
( Even more when I have to type my message because I push the refresh button by mistake lol)

So here my tough,

Like some of you have see LPP didn't play first round so he didn't track anybody, but I think in the beginning Lime Cook have been jailkeeped and tracked by LPP afterwards and he know something about that, so for now here my tiers list right now ( I have some doubt one Syn for his particular way to analyse xD)

Lime cook
Syn ( I didn't forgot you this time xD)
Roxy ( same I my previous post)
JACK
longCon
Scotty
Thunal

[Syn]

I am losing my mind trying to square powers and when they happened off the top of my head, especially since I just checked the rules and it's apparently been against the rules this whole time to talk about other people and what they did lolllllllllllll

[Syn]

mods asleep post mech

[Syn]

I will do this though, because I'm having a time keeping the flips straight in my mind

Day 1: falcon45ca
Night 1: n/a

Day 2: motobot, Wisdom
Night 2: n/a

Day 3: dunya
Night 3: S~V~S

Day 4: Spacedaisy
Night 4: DDL

Day 5: Nanook
Night 5: LPP

[Syn]

went through roxy's minimal ISO and I'm confident just considering her town, especially with how dunia treated her, and doubly especially with how inactive she's been

would even go as far as suggesting that if it's LYLO and it's roxy + one of scotty or lime + whoever, roxy is the one clear and not them

not that this matters if she zero posts the rest of the game

[Syn]

jibay has 3p equity but unfortunately in this case that looks identical to newbie equity. following the motion of the ocean is what a newbie does, and depending on 3p wincon, a genuine choice there as well

[Syn]

would even go as far as suggesting that if it's LYLO and it's roxy + one of scotty or lime + whoever, roxy is the one clear and not them

i amend this after looking again at lpp's ISO

i think scotty is clear-clear

[Syn]

I am left with jack wolf and either lime coke or jibay as 3p

[Syn]

I am left with jack wolf and either lime coke or jibay as 3p

jack wolf, lime 3p

I think that's most likely

would prefer to chop the last wolf over 3p hunting

lime can never be wolf

[Lime Coke]

I am really sorry guys things got super busy for me the last couple of days so it's tough to get on here to do stuff and doesn't help that I'm still just... kinda lost.

[Lime Coke]

I am really sorry guys things got super busy for me the last couple of days so it's tough to get on here to do stuff and doesn't help that I'm still just... kinda lost.

Also kinda dreading solving the game since fuck me I am not feeling too confident.

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

I still feel like this is a good guess actually.

[Lime Coke]

Not Thunal since maybe towny also SVS died with a hard townread there.

Maybe not Roxy?

[Syn]

...

[Lime Coke]

...

Tbh I don't fucking know either man I was half way considering voting you since idk how long I can run with "Wisdom spewed him town by pushing him" as my read on you.

Ironically Scotty is kinda making me consider it.

[Syn]

lmao so outing

[Long Con]

I am left with jack wolf and either lime coke or jibay as 3p

jack wolf, lime 3p

I think that's most likely

would prefer to chop the last wolf over 3p hunting

lime can never be wolf

Yeah, that's where my head is at. [VOTE: jack] aubergine

[Lime Coke]

lmao so outing

...how?

[Lime Coke]

Like nothing I did was out of the ordinary... and seeing how things are going after the Dunya yeet... what exactly would you expect to happen?

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: syn] aubergine

Eh, fuck it, let's ride.

[Scotty]

idk why I'd lackadaisically defend wisdom as wolf, lose her to a dayvig, and then immediately hellbus my remaining partner the next day

(A) You presumably didn’t know Wisdom was going to be dayvigged.
(B) Seeing your partner go down as such, it stands to reason that you decided to take the opposite approach and hellbus dunya

On the note of B, spot the difference between the following suspicions (presented in order):
{SNIP}

Here’s what I see:
He starts D3 by voting for dunya, has a flurry of posts that are condemning her.
After she’s gone? Back to his lackadaisical voting patterns voting with trite or unexplained reasoning.

He knew she was bad…because he *knew* she was bad.


AND

He wasn’t even around for the eod where dunya went down. Dunya BARELY got yeeted. We don’t know what syn would have done in the waning moments if he were around.

I'm not really going to make up reasons to vote other people. my case on dunia was specifically and directly requested by petit. before then my vote had just as much rigor as the other votes

also, "it stands to reason" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. why would that stand to reason? the logical leap there doesn't make sense. I decide to be ballsy and just limply associate myself with my teammate for two days, she gets lit up by a dayvig suddenly, so the next day I go out of my way to kill my remaining partner? and then do nothing to try and gain cred from it and just move on? like lol. what

>“Limply associate”<

every vote for wisdom makes a puppy whimper

I probably will not be here at EOD or I'll catch up on reading pretty much exactly when it hits EOD like last time

I don't care about killing Lime Coke

don't kill wisdom pls

that is all

hugs and kisses

She was your biggest defensive appeal

>”the next day I go out of my way to kill my remaining partner?”<
Yes.

>“and then do nothing to try and gain cred from it and just move on?”<

Woot woot!

Well done those that stuck with dunya, and fuck yeah for SVS’ amazing shot!

That's assuming all dunya voters are ok. Wolves do bus, and this situation was, in my opinion a *prime* bussing scenario.

If there’s a busser, my guess is Syn

I was the first vote and first case on her but go off queen

So it is true that you only brought up this cred after I suggested in D4 that you could have bussed her.
But I also find it odd how unexcited you were in catching dunya after the fact, not that it’s a positive trait. Felt like a business transaction

[Scotty]

went through roxy's minimal ISO and I'm confident just considering her town, especially with how dunia treated her, and doubly especially with how inactive she's been

would even go as far as suggesting that if it's LYLO and it's roxy + one of scotty or lime + whoever, roxy is the one clear and not them

not that this matters if she zero posts the rest of the game

This is a wild take

[Scotty]

would even go as far as suggesting that if it's LYLO and it's roxy + one of scotty or lime + whoever, roxy is the one clear and not them

i amend this after looking again at lpp's ISO

i think scotty is clear-clear

Ah ok.

You know, we could be off on the Lime Coke clearing game, if we put the pieces together.

Because even if Lime Coke was jailed/blocked on N2, dunya could very easily have put in the kill, and probably did.

[Scotty]

I am really sorry guys things got super busy for me the last couple of days so it's tough to get on here to do stuff and doesn't help that I'm still just... kinda lost.

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

I still feel like this is a good guess actually.

My brother in Christ, you’re trapped in a corn maze the size of Jupiter

[Scotty]

@Jibay we need some thoughts from you, bud! The more talking, the better it will be to find names we can agree on!

@Roxy I know your patience with this game is thin, but we could use some expansion on your reads.

Obviously everyone should participate this go round, but we could definitely use input from those I tagged!! <3

Hi ! Rip , Nanook and LPP have some good rest

Sorry , I'm trying to talk more but my time isn't enough :'(
( Even more when I have to type my message because I push the refresh button by mistake lol)

So here my tough,

Like some of you have see LPP didn't play first round so he didn't track anybody, but I think in the beginning Lime Cook have been jailkeeped and tracked by LPP afterwards and he know something about that, so for now here my tiers list right now ( I have some doubt one Syn for his particular way to analyse xD)

Lime cook
Syn ( I didn't forgot you this time xD)
Roxy ( same I my previous post)
JACK
longCon
Scotty
Thunal

Jibay coming in hot with the solve. Could it be?

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

Ima explore this angle a little bit

[Scotty]

Er, no. It’s commented by Thunal that DDL probably jailed Lime on N3. Can someone show me the receipts on that implication?

Also just had a sobering thought of what if Long Con and Thunal are actually wolf/3p shielding each other without blowback and the actual Kip/Lafawndah are just…missing the plot

But that’s all it is- a nightmarish daydream. That wouldn’t actually happen.

[Scotty]

@Long Con @Syn how do we reckon with the fact that Jack was the counterwagon to dunya on D3- a counterwagon in which dunya happily jumped to? Wanna talk about hellbussing, that’s the biggest hellbus in this game if true

[Lime Coke]

Er, no. It’s commented by Thunal that DDL probably jailed Lime on N3. Can someone show me the receipts on that implication?

Also just had a sobering thought of what if Long Con and Thunal are actually wolf/3p shielding each other without blowback and the actual Kip/Lafawndah are just…missing the plot

But that’s all it is- a nightmarish daydream. That wouldn’t actually happen.

The... fact that DDL spent the entire game tunneling me... including pairing me with Dunya. Then immediately after Dunya gets yeeted he's calling me town out of nowhere and is speaking in definites about it.

With only 1 maf left alive him jailing me would've just blocked the kill then.

[Lime Coke]

I am really sorry guys things got super busy for me the last couple of days so it's tough to get on here to do stuff and doesn't help that I'm still just... kinda lost.

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

I still feel like this is a good guess actually.

My brother in Christ, you’re trapped in a corn maze the size of Jupiter

Well when you spend the last month or two playing like total shit, including this game, and you catch next to no fucking breaks or lose the game for town majority of the time... it gets to you.

Doesn't help that the rest of you are either barely posting or are posting relatively the same way or are low key trolling the game.

[Scotty]

I am really sorry guys things got super busy for me the last couple of days so it's tough to get on here to do stuff and doesn't help that I'm still just... kinda lost.

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

I still feel like this is a good guess actually.

My brother in Christ, you’re trapped in a corn maze the size of Jupiter

Well when you spend the last month or two playing like total shit, including this game, and you catch next to no fucking breaks or lose the game for town majority of the time... it gets to you.

Doesn't help that the rest of you are either barely posting or are posting relatively the same way or are low key trolling the game.

The rest of you? Who is trolling? Are we playing the same game right now?

[Thunal33]

would even go as far as suggesting that if it's LYLO and it's roxy + one of scotty or lime + whoever, roxy is the one clear and not them

i amend this after looking again at lpp's ISO

i think scotty is clear-clear

Ah ok.

You know, we could be off on the Lime Coke clearing game, if we put the pieces together.

Because even if Lime Coke was jailed/blocked on N2, dunya could very easily have put in the kill, and probably did.

Lime was both tracked and jailkept on n3. Look at LPP’s ISO start of d3. He said he was tunneling Lime at night but then as the sun rose it clicked Lime was town. That’s a pretty obvious track.

I think it’s likely wolves just did some ill-advised bussing and the wolf is one of Syn or Jack.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[Jackofhearts2005]

Okay enough of this. It's been fun but I think we should yeet the wolf today.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I am losing my mind trying to square powers and when they happened off the top of my head, especially since I just checked the rules and it's apparently been against the rules this whole time to talk about other people and what they did lolllllllllllll

[Jackofhearts2005]

Not really though. We can speculate about dead power roles. Just not give your own targets and info.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Thunal, LC likely "mech confirmed" wink wink
Lime also likely "mech confirmed" but like at a slightly lower scale.

That's the starting point.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

barring any blistering new insights

Not the best intro to the day but whatever.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm fine with that

Just keep in mind that the assumption with Jibay is that he was jailkept by DDL, and thus can't be the wolf

It has no bearing on being 3p

Better look. Time to confirm or deny this.

[Jackofhearts2005]

LC and daisy both have good cases against them while also having people hard defending them.

My gut says they are both town though.

[VOTE: Jibay] aubergine

Next in the "we are not looking at here enough" queue.

And what is this guy doing to deserve to live all the way to D5?

Okay so with 6ish votes on Daisy, DDL places this vote on Jibay and then dies.

The idea is this is a soft of a jailkeep on Jibay and I find that convincing.

We'll "clear" Jibay at just under Lime's level of clearedness.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Assuming no bad mechanical assumptions, I now know without doubt that the wolf is in Syn and Roxy. Game is EZ atp.