On Day 1, speed's first mention of Rej was here:
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:28 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:25 pm
Ok here it goes. It was this post sequence.
Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:51 am
sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:08 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:53 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:21 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:57 pm
Considering 17 players usually means 4 mafia in a town v mafia singleball but also considering this site is weird, I'd say 3 mafia with chances of a handful of third parties
I could see that, I don't recall ever playing a Nova game though which does make it a bit more murky.
I'd say 3-4 mafia and two third parties probably with survivorish roles, I don't think the game could support a SK given how small it is and there being role reveals. It's also possible one of the third parties is a mechanism against role claiming, if they're not I'd be wary of the mafia having a role that could punish a player for revealing info/claiming.
the way you imply he third parties being survivorish is worrying me
I note it down
It's an obvious assumption to make given the player pool.
1.5 years mafia experience, and I havent ever seen someone comming D0 implying that third parties might be survivorish. Lmao, this is scummy af and I dont know how else to judge this random wild assumption.
I just think that you could be harmful (possible third) who tries to downplay the scum/thirds in general in this game.
Thats why I said noteworthy.
Case on Sig based on him thinking there is a survivor in the setup is BS.
Granted he said "worrying" which does not necessarily mean an actual suspicion.
But the fact I can't know for sure whether this is an actual suspicion is also "worrying".
Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:57 am
I just came here and D0 ended with nothing.
It is okay I feel we have enough to force interactions and opinions.
Remember when I doubted Creature for his pessimism? This guy is parroting Creature's pessimism.
Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:59 am
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:27 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:04 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:14 pm
Lol creature is town
[VOTE:
nutella] aubergine
Eh?
Dom probably suspects you of basing your town gutread on Creature on TMI. (My first guess).
This attempt of interpreting why Dom voted for someone else strikes me as a tentative bandwagoning on the person Dom voted for.
Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:59 am
I also give Creature a townread, but he set his vote and he was quite engageful. Tho my read on him bases on post-voting.
Why did you give him a towncard?
I don't understand why his opinion on Creature seems to flip around three times in the same post and I don't like it.
I like this case but the first of the points feel weak
But he voted for Mac. Rej did not have any votes at that time.
Later on both me and Jack voted Rej, but then we both left the wagon.
Then later speed showed up with this case:
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:21 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:53 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:24 am
Rej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:44 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:32 am
Well in that case, there's not really much for me to do. Could explain my read on Rej or Mac maybe. But...nah.
wow you really give zero fucks this game, you must be a civ, you would never fuck up your mafia brethern like that? playing this jaded?
did anything else in this DP caught your attention? I haven't seen many reads about Mac. He just seems to carry some energy with him, energy I haven't seen in much of his D0/D1 plays.
Is the first half of this post a sarcasm? Because it seems like one to me.
tbh I am 50/50, it's true that Dragos overall behaviour in mafia changed, from game to game he gives less a fuck, that is reasonable if you busy yourself with other things, but still a mafia drago wouldn't make himself such an easy target I feel, tho town drago tends to do help town in any kind of form
Those two fifties have completely opposite meanings
[VOTE:
Rej] aubergine
He then pushed Rej a lot, telling people like Boo and TSP to vote for him, but nobody followed him.
On Day 2 he started with this:
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:19 am
[VOTE:
Rej and Jack] aubergine
I'm going to bed. Tomorrow will finally be a free day for me.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:16 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:21 am
i'm not sure i understand the "rej" case. is it a case of if dom and drago were both town, the third most talked about person was rej so he must have been bad? i mean it's not a terrible case, but is that the extent of it or is there more?
I originally voted Rej because of his weaselly language when asked a direct question. And I haven't really been here since.
Then after making a couple post shading TSP, he did this:
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:42 pm
[unvote]Jack
[VOTE:
[TSP]] aubergine
I'm still leery on Jack for some reason. I've been trying to read him like he's alternate-universe me, and I probably need to stop doing that.
He never looked away from Rej, though. If Speed is bad he was here to sack a teammate:
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:31 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:16 pm
I will deliver a multilayered defense and this will be my first part of it.
I zoned out while reading this post. No more layers please.
I'm only lynching you because you had weasely wording and didn't take a stance on anything you said. You took a sarcastic statement of yours and tried to boil it down to an 'Interesting', which made no sense.
Step out and find someone who has done something worse if you want to do something. Trying to make your post look (artificially) more pleasing is what got you into this, after all.
Though his TSP wagon did help save Sloon. But aside from Sig nobody had a perfect double scum vote anyway (from what we currently know).
Day 3 he votes for Sloonei as soon as the day starts. Unexplained, though.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:51 am
[VOTE:
Sloonbeard] aubergine
There is also this gem:
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:49 pm
If sloon is scum, his teammates are in Dunya, Colin, Jack, and Sig. That's what the readlist quoted above tells me.
If speed flips scum I might lynch Sig next.
Then comes this ~interesting~ exchange:
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:50 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:48 pm
=,= I'm being ignored. someone talk to me.
Hi speed I think you look very good in your relationship wit rej.
If we assume that I am town, who would you be voting for?
That's actually a tough question.
Hm.
Probably Colin, unless something's changed in the 36 hours I haven't been in game. Colin is usually a presence, and he's like a void in my head right now.
I might jump there anyway. I don't like that there are no big voices on the Sloon train. Makes it feel weird.
And he jumps off:
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:35 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:25 pm
are you coming off sloonei, speedchuck? i thought you said you were.
Baby interrupted me. Trying to get her to sleep.
I am. I will when I figure out where I want to go.
Need to read the LC case, then choose that or Colin I think
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:37 pm
I'll just vote colin for now and see about LC when the baby quits making it imposiblw
But then Jack came with a killer post against Sloonei, and Speed sheeped on it:
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:07 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:02 pm
At the buzzer, votes are
Colin 5 - Jack, Boo, Sloonei, Tony, Nanook
Rej 5 - DDL, Jack, Sig, Dunya, Speed
Sloonei 5 - LC, Creature, Nanook, Sig, Nutella
Tony 6 - Rej, Dunya, Sloonei, Speed, Dunya, DDL
And Colin votes Rej. He chose to take Rej from 33% chance to lynch to 100% chance to lynch and himself and Sloonei from 33% to 0%.
If Colin is a wolf, the only reason he votes Rej is because Sloonei is also a wolf. Otherwise, he’d lynch good townie Sloonei over himself and good role partner Rej. A bus on Rej earns him no cred.
So under the idea that Rej is probably teamed with Sloonei and/or Colin and under the idea that Colin can only be a wolf if Colin and Sloonei are both wolves, Sloonei should go first.
If Sloonei flips wolf, we get a wolf and we reevaluate Colin with the knowledge that everything Sloonei said cane from a wolf. If Sloonei flips town, we know all his reads were real and we confirm mislynch bait Colin.
[VOTE:
Sloonei] aubergine
Ooh, spicy.
Voting Sloonei after this post.
But that impetus didn't last long.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:38 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:36 pm
We're trying to figure out who to lynch and there are 1.5 hours left to pick.
Pretty important.
It's only important if we're wavering off Sloonei, and he seems to be in the lead still, so. Looks like we're good there to me
What if I told you that we ARE wavering off sloonei?
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:23 pm
[VOTE:
Colin] aubergine
Colin died, and Sloonei was saved.
Then Day 4 he came when the score was Sloonei 4-3 LC and buried Sloonei:
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:59 pm
[VOTE:
Sloonei] aubergine
That's speed history for ya.