The Wire Mafia [END]

[Sloonei]

Rainbow reads based exclusively on these interactions:
DDL
speedchuck
Jack
Colin
dunya
sig
Long Con
boo

i notice nanook is also missing?

I didn't find any significant interactions between nanook and rej (in rej's posts at least). He could be marked down as conspicuously absent.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Btw nanook, sorry if I insulted you during our argument. Not sure if I did, but I'm apologizing just in case.

Though I still think my point is right and that you should have looked at Sig's posts and not just the poll. But I won't waste time with discussion that any further.

And yet I came to the same conclusion, that sig isn’t worthwhile today, and did it much faster and easier.

You're staring to make me hope sig is bad.

I know I’m insufferable aren’t I

But even if he is, I’ll just say

I didn’t say he was good or lock clear him, I just said there are better targets today

The thing about statistics is that it's easy to ignore all that numerous times where "an amazing player" went against them and kicked your ass and then continuing following probability like a clockwork.

I don't let anyone beat me without a fight. No busser gets to be taken for granted by me. I will consider everything.

Uwu you’re so brave

[Sloonei]

Luffy s corrupt for sure. Argumentative and thread steering. When he's civ he shoots from the hip. I'm getting a warrant. [VOTE: DDL] aubergine

DDL's interactions with Rej would be incredible distancing if they're partners.

[sig]

i actually voted for sig because i was talking to him on discord, (no other reason today for my vote), while i read up on the thread and caught up. then i got sidetracked doing other things.

i find it interesting how ddl followed me there though and used the line "lets see if dunya's scumdar is still working" - it's like a preemptive excuse should i be wrong (does ddl know i will be wrong?) to throw me under the bus. i didn't like that post.

Well guess who I'm not going to talk to next time I see them in discord.

[Sloonei]

i actually voted for sig because i was talking to him on discord, (no other reason today for my vote), while i read up on the thread and caught up. then i got sidetracked doing other things.

i find it interesting how ddl followed me there though and used the line "lets see if dunya's scumdar is still working" - it's like a preemptive excuse should i be wrong (does ddl know i will be wrong?) to throw me under the bus. i didn't like that post.

Well guess who I'm not going to talk to next time I see them in discord.

Hey sig who do you wanna lynch?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Sloonei posts a big thingie and aside from DDL, “good look for X” and “not a great look for Y” appear to be slapped on to interactions at random.

Not a good look for Sloonei.

[sig]

Okay so thoughts on Sloonie, he's been a contender last two days, without very strong cases either day.

This either means he's a civ fall back or we're gut instinct right and he's mafia which is why he keeps popping up.

I personally am liking Nanook (hiss), Dunya, and Boo.
I don't want to lynch Jack, LC, or Th today.

I'm mainly eyeing two players though Creature and Speed, both have been present but have done very little to the point I keep forgetting they're in the game.

linki: Out of the current pool I'd go with Creature maybe Speed. I'm more at a place of who I don't wanna lynch.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Rainbow reads based exclusively on these interactions:
DDL
speedchuck
Jack
Colin
dunya
sig
Long Con
boo

Where's Creature?

Lol whoopsie.

[Sloonei]

Sloonei posts a big thingie and aside from DDL, “good look for X” and “not a great look for Y” appear to be slapped on to interactions at random.

Not a good look for Sloonei.

Did you even read the post?

[Sloonei]

Rainbow reads based exclusively on these interactions:
DDL
speedchuck
Jack
Colin
dunya
sig
Long Con
boo

Where's Creature?

Lol whoopsie.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Also genuinely curious to see if the dunyadar is still reliable when it's not fed by 300 posts a day.

And wondering why I didn't stay on Sig yesterday.

What does it say?

That Sig is bad.

Your Dunyadar is busted if you’re picking up Sig reads.

[sig]

Less. Consensus on MU is to read him straight on volume and I think that’s wrong but it’s not all that far off.

Talk to me about Speed sig. Is it strictly you forgetting about him?

Part gut and part forgetting. I also found some of his posts off, but I can't think of what they were right now.

My thing is it seems like he's being active enough to be active and around, but not really doing much. Which irony I'm doing the same thing, but Ik im not mafia.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Sloonei posts a big thingie and aside from DDL, “good look for X” and “not a great look for Y” appear to be slapped on to interactions at random.

Not a good look for Sloonei.

Did you even read the post?

Yeah. Like idk why you said the things that were bad for me and Boo were bad for me and Boo.

[sig]

What're the chances that Collin/Sloonie was also mafia?

Here's my thoughts most people had okay reasoning for their votes last phase in a pool of four players with one mafia and one civ, I feel like it wouldn't be impossible to say that another one was mafia. Collin voters seem to have dropped off while Sloonie has retained some.

My major issue isn't that I think Sloonie is that townie, just that he's an asset and has been pretty active and given alot of content. If he's a civ it's a major hit.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

i actually voted for sig because i was talking to him on discord, (no other reason today for my vote), while i read up on the thread and caught up. then i got sidetracked doing other things.

i find it interesting how ddl followed me there though and used the line "lets see if dunya's scumdar is still working" - it's like a preemptive excuse should i be wrong (does ddl know i will be wrong?) to throw me under the bus. i didn't like that post.

I mean you could be wrong, but at this point I've learned not to ignore your sorcery.

[Sloonei]

Sloonei posts a big thingie and aside from DDL, “good look for X” and “not a great look for Y” appear to be slapped on to interactions at random.

Not a good look for Sloonei.

Did you even read the post?

Yeah. Like idk why you said the things that were bad for me and Boo were bad for me and Boo.

See if you'd actually read the post you'd notice that I came out of it feeling good about you.
I felt bad about boo because rej made no comment on him at all until slapping a random unexplained vote on him mid-day 2, then quickly moved it off of him. It looked like an empty attempt to distance himself from a teammate. I had similar misgivings about his vote for you, which I expressed, but ultimately came off of because his vote remained on you. I guess it's possible to read those votes the other way around: you were the distanced partner, and boo was the random civilian being shaded. But if I am being asked to choose to pick one over the other, I'd say the boo vote looks worse. Or maybe you're both town. I find it unlikely that he'd vote for two partners at once.

[sig]

ok from skimming rej's iso

people I think are not super likely to be his teammate for various reasons:
boo
dunya
colin
creature
ddl
sig

people I think have reasonable equity as his teammate:
speedchuck
jack
sloonei
lc

(leaving nanook and zemmi as null and in poe by default)

this is my functional poe for d3 (if I survive, if not well now yall have it)

Nutella had alot of good content that I don't have time to go over, so instead I'm just going to pull this up.

I think we should be lynching out of the bottom six today. Personally I'd take out Nanook, TH, and LC that leaves Sloonie, Jack or Speed.

I'm going to ISO Speed really fast before phase ends and see what I see, but I think using POE based off last vote is the right way to go here.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Sloonei posts a big thingie and aside from DDL, “good look for X” and “not a great look for Y” appear to be slapped on to interactions at random.

Not a good look for Sloonei.

But Jack

He always plays like that

[Dragon D. Luffy]

It seems I'm going to have to spend another vote to save Sloonei in in this game.

[Sloonei]

ok from skimming rej's iso

people I think are not super likely to be his teammate for various reasons:
boo
dunya
colin
creature
ddl
sig

people I think have reasonable equity as his teammate:
speedchuck
jack
sloonei
lc

(leaving nanook and zemmi as null and in poe by default)

this is my functional poe for d3 (if I survive, if not well now yall have it)

Nutella had alot of good content that I don't have time to go over, so instead I'm just going to pull this up.

I think we should be lynching out of the bottom six today. Personally I'd take out Nanook, TH, and LC that leaves Sloonie, Jack or Speed.

I'm going to ISO Speed really fast before phase ends and see what I see, but I think using POE based off last vote is the right way to go here.

I'm a bad lynch and I don't endorse a speedchuck lynch. Tell me about him Jack, though.
Why are you removing TH and LC?
that's almost THC.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I still think Sig is a shadow of his former self.

[Sloonei]

It seems I'm going to have to spend another vote to save Sloonei in in this game.

Not if people move their damn votes.

[Sloonei]

I still think Sig is a shadow of his former self.

what's this mean?

[dunya]

why are you taking LC out of your pool, sig?

jesus christ this loonkie

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Also genuinely curious to see if the dunyadar is still reliable when it's not fed by 300 posts a day.

And wondering why I didn't stay on Sig yesterday.

What does it say?

That Sig is bad.

Your Dunyadar is busted if you’re picking up Sig reads.

No man, by "dunyadar" I mean dunya herself.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

What're the chances that Collin/Sloonie was also mafia?

Here's my thoughts most people had okay reasoning for their votes last phase in a pool of four players with one mafia and one civ, I feel like it wouldn't be impossible to say that another one was mafia. Collin voters seem to have dropped off while Sloonie has retained some.

My major issue isn't that I think Sloonie is that townie, just that he's an asset and has been pretty active and given alot of content. If he's a civ it's a major hit.

Ok now this looks a bit more like the Sig I know and love.

[Sloonei]

dunyadar sounds like a swear in a foreign language i wouldn't recognize.

[sig]

What ties were in there? Was rej a clean lynch or was there vote manias and coin flips?

Yea this post, paired with slim content pinged me.


It doesn't feel organic to me, he also voted rej very earlier on 1:30ish and then wasn't around until after the phase was over. Meaning he can't get real credit for his role in the lynch. I also didn't like his interaction with Rej, could very easily be distancing. I don't have a burning desire to lynch Speed, but I'm not against it either.

linki: It's for what i said earlier, this is the first game I'm not scum reading him and think he has some good content. So while I guess he'd still be in POE, but I'd not wanna lynch him today. For TH I like to give subs a full phase unless they're super scummy especially considering Zem was inactive.

linki2: What with crazy theories that are always right, but never get taken seriously.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I still think Sig is a shadow of his former self.

what's this mean?

I'm used to Sig being this fun and crazy dude who tinfoils a lot and says a lot of things that make people immediately latch at him.

Reminds he was this forum's sprityo before sprityo. He is lynchbait for those reasons.

Sig seems... boring. Though I liked that last post I just quoted.

[sig]

Jack is still there based off Nutella's last post. I have no opinion of Jack guess based off of how the wagon went down he'd be a slight scum read.

[Sloonei]

[mention]sig[/mention] Do you have any thoughts on my LC analysis in this post?

[dunya]

dunyadar sounds like a swear in a foreign language i wouldn't recognize.

it literally means world-house in arabic.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Jack is still there based off Nutella's last post. I have no opinion of Jack guess based off of how the wagon went down he'd be a slight scum read.

I don't like how hard it was to get Jack to talk about Creature after he posed as the Authority on Creature on Day 0.

He is also another player who is a shadow of his former self.

[Sloonei]

dunyadar sounds like a swear in a foreign language i wouldn't recognize.

it literally means world-house in arabic.

i like that

[Sloonei]

I read jack slightly favorably in my Rej ISO, but that he apparently misread the whole post and I'm not sure what to make of that. Does anyone agree or disagree with what I had to say about him in my big long post that you've definitely all read?

[sig]

Also Creature, other people have made the case on him and I find myself agreeing with them so I could go there.

linki: I like it think you make a good point. I'd like to see a response from LC since I don't think he's answered that yet.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Ok so I'm in a conumdrum.

LC on Day 1 was easily my strongest town read.

But I don't remember why that was and I feel like this happened ages ago.

I kind of agree on a lot of points people are making against LC but don't wanna bretray my past feelings.

[Sloonei]

Ok so I'm in a conumdrum.

LC on Day 1 was easily my strongest town read.

But I don't remember why that was and I feel like this happened ages ago.

I kind of agree on a lot of points people are making against LC but don't wanna bretray my past feelings.

I was in the same boat, but in hindsight my reasons for town-reading LC initially don't hold as much weight. I liked the way he appeared to handle the Dom suspicion, but that never really materialized into any meaningful effort to search elsewhere. Idk why you were town-reading him though.
He looks bad in relation to Rej. His vote for me was bad yesterday as well.

[Sloonei]

Also Creature, other people have made the case on him and I find myself agreeing with them so I could go there.

linki: I like it think you make a good point. I'd like to see a response from LC since I don't think he's answered that yet.

me too, re: LC response

I'd also have no problem voting for Creature today. It'd be a no brainer to do so if self-preservation is also a necessity.

[dunya]

i didnt like how creature didn't know JJJ was replaced.

[sig]

Anyone have any insight on how an Independent LC plays?

linki: Shouldn't that be civ points since you'd assume scum buddies would tell him.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I read jack slightly favorably in my Rej ISO, but that he apparently misread the whole post and I'm not sure what to make of that. Does anyone agree or disagree with what I had to say about him in my big long post that you've definitely all read?

I actually read all of it this time.

Though I'm... not sure. Rej smeared Jack a lot, though he left openings to jump off it. I could see bad Jack here. Means Rej engaged in a lot of distancing, but not in a very difficult way. Jack wasn't even up for discussion in D1 (except for his thunderdome with dunya), and his wagon didn't catch that much steam on D2.

[dunya]

i mean, im using it as a point in his favor vs. i think he's bad for it.

bad creature was a lot more active and townie-like. he got more involved. at least in the game i played with him in NF. he totally fooled me. i'm not seeing the same creature here.

[speedchuck]

Sup? I haven't been spending much time on my PC lately.

[Sloonei]

Anyone have any insight on how an Independent LC plays?

No, I've never been in the habit of hunting independents. And playstyle always varies based on win conditions anyway. Why is this a concern to you right now?

linki: Shouldn't that be civ points since you'd assume scum buddies would tell him.

What?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

i didnt like how creature didn't know JJJ was replaced.

How does that indicate alignment tho?

[dunya]

i had a thunderdome with jack this game? was i sleepwalking through it?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

i mean, im using it as a point in his favor vs. i think he's bad for it.

bad creature was a lot more active and townie-like. he got more involved. at least in the game i played with him in NF. he totally fooled me. i'm not seeing the same creature here.

What game was that again? It's funny because I was probably in it, but I forgot playing/hosting with Creature before.

[speedchuck]

i didnt like how creature didn't know JJJ was replaced.

How does that indicate alignment tho?

If anything, it could be the opposite, but IDK. Long Con has pulled off an ignorance townslip before

[sig]

Anyone have any insight on how an Independent LC plays?

No, I've never been in the habit of hunting independents. And playstyle always varies based on win conditions anyway. Why is this a concern to you right now?

linki: Shouldn't that be civ points since you'd assume scum buddies would tell him.

What?

The general consensus on LC seems to be not civvie, not super mafiaish. People don't want to lynch him out of paranoia, (Me) but we can all agree he isn't playing a very pro town game.

One option besides mafia could be 3rd party, but that's a through out thought.