she has 20% of the total votes, 25% time passed into the day phase. u surprised?
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Eh I'd say that if Kate is mafia that there's a mafia voting her almost always. Maybe even more mafia than if she's town. Mafia love getting votes onto mafia early when they're under pressure.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 amI think it's dependent on later data to tell that one. So far Tutuu's response to my ask could be seen as both a noncommittal bus and a swipe at the LHF for example.
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OK, mental note: Mac has Koala angst.
Also, Rondo and his big player wall summary...wait, where's the pukey emoji?
Also, Rondo and his big player wall summary...wait, where's the pukey emoji?
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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Fill me in, which one isn't towny?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.
However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.
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I said 3 seem townier than one. Not that one wasn't townie.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:47 amFill me in, which one isn't towny?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.
However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.
SPF, Baudib and Tutuu have been a lot townier than Creature.
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he just voted creature a few posts above thisDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:47 amFill me in, which one isn't towny?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.
However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.
i think wilgy is ... towny for this?
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I'd have to see if any voter is actually under pressure to warrant this.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:46 amEh I'd say that if Kate is mafia that there's a mafia voting her almost always. Maybe even more mafia than if she's town. Mafia love getting votes onto mafia early when they're under pressure.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 amI think it's dependent on later data to tell that one. So far Tutuu's response to my ask could be seen as both a noncommittal bus and a swipe at the LHF for example.
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tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:48 amhe just voted creature a few posts above thisDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:47 amFill me in, which one isn't towny?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.
However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.
i think wilgy is ... towny for this?
me on my way to make the dumbest reads ever
man, i live for this shit
lock it in, wilgy town
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why though? Derp?tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:48 amhe just voted creature a few posts above thisDrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:47 amFill me in, which one isn't towny?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.
However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.
i think wilgy is ... towny for this?
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Uh you misunderstand. Mafia vote their partners when they are under early pressure. It's good for optics to do so early cuz you have ample time to end up putting your vote elsewhere. If Kate is taking heat like this early as mafia, one or more of the voters is her partner for sure imo.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:50 amI'd have to see if any voter is actually under pressure to warrant this.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:46 amEh I'd say that if Kate is mafia that there's a mafia voting her almost always. Maybe even more mafia than if she's town. Mafia love getting votes onto mafia early when they're under pressure.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 amI think it's dependent on later data to tell that one. So far Tutuu's response to my ask could be seen as both a noncommittal bus and a swipe at the LHF for example.
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It was not deep like I said, I had a long day and wanted to do a quick read through. I'm not used to day 1s with this much posting. Our games used to start off slow. While reading the only thing that popped out to me was that Rondo did the same thing in 2 games in a row, which I noted. I have 1 game with him before this game, so I can't be positive that is AI I wanted to reread it and see what others thought.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:08 amShe agrees with Rondo meta, immediately undermines her own view, then promises a future reread (a reread? Thread was literally 2 pages) that has to happen before she gives any deeper thoughts. It's a waffly nothingburger of a post.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:39 amExplain to me what's obvscum about this postKate wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:58 pmJust read through once and I for now agree on this. This is almost identical to the way he opened the last game and he was civ. Unless of course, he's doing that to make us think that... anyway nothing about his gameplay pings me thus far.
Lots of pings in this thread for a cold day 1 from many people. I'll have to reread tomorrow for any deeper thoughts.
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Negative 2 games minimum, I am pretty sure you were in Macs secret player list making it 3
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Me? No I wasn't I missed the start. I signed up for it but was not in it.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:55 am Negative 2 games minimum, I am pretty sure you were in Macs secret player list making it 3
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fun contrast innit? :PKate wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:53 amIt was not deep like I said, I had a long day and wanted to do a quick read through. I'm not used to day 1s with this much posting. Our games used to start off slow. While reading the only thing that popped out to me was that Rondo did the same thing in 2 games in a row, which I noted. I have 1 game with him before this game, so I can't be positive that is AI I wanted to reread it and see what others thought.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:08 amShe agrees with Rondo meta, immediately undermines her own view, then promises a future reread (a reread? Thread was literally 2 pages) that has to happen before she gives any deeper thoughts. It's a waffly nothingburger of a post.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:39 amExplain to me what's obvscum about this postKate wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:58 pmJust read through once and I for now agree on this. This is almost identical to the way he opened the last game and he was civ. Unless of course, he's doing that to make us think that... anyway nothing about his gameplay pings me thus far.
Lots of pings in this thread for a cold day 1 from many people. I'll have to reread tomorrow for any deeper thoughts.
how from your pov its too fast, and a lot of other players expressed boredom at how slow it is for them
iss like we're on a cultural exchange program
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I see the Kate first post thing, but I am not going to do anything about the Kate first post thing.
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It is very different, but for the most part it's been a lot of fun learning the new tactics and vernacular. And meeting the new players.tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:58 amfun contrast innit? :PKate wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:53 amIt was not deep like I said, I had a long day and wanted to do a quick read through. I'm not used to day 1s with this much posting. Our games used to start off slow. While reading the only thing that popped out to me was that Rondo did the same thing in 2 games in a row, which I noted. I have 1 game with him before this game, so I can't be positive that is AI I wanted to reread it and see what others thought.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:08 amShe agrees with Rondo meta, immediately undermines her own view, then promises a future reread (a reread? Thread was literally 2 pages) that has to happen before she gives any deeper thoughts. It's a waffly nothingburger of a post.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:39 amExplain to me what's obvscum about this postKate wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:58 pmJust read through once and I for now agree on this. This is almost identical to the way he opened the last game and he was civ. Unless of course, he's doing that to make us think that... anyway nothing about his gameplay pings me thus far.
Lots of pings in this thread for a cold day 1 from many people. I'll have to reread tomorrow for any deeper thoughts.
how from your pov its too fast, and a lot of other players expressed boredom at how slow it is for them
iss like we're on a cultural exchange program
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Falcon's way of playing reminds me of the other two games I've played with him, laid back and not super focused until something fun happens and he was town then. Like he's joking around and not 100% on topic.
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And of course, trying to meld the old with the new!
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I'm confused by this one Tutuu, why is commentary on projection AI?tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:12 amthis is a 500 iq post if ur mafiastaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:08 am i agree. i think bereft is projecting his view of the game on to me and that's towny too.
earlier u talk about thinking ur projecting ur stuff to lucy and now ur justifying tr on bereft for the same reason - projection. ergo u gotta be town. i believe it
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I am wishy washy on Kate because I don't make reads off of two posts. I can't do that I need more content.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:20 am @Dennis town === falcon equity and sig equity maybe / Why are you wishy washing on Kate. Make a read, town or wolf? Why not voting for lucy or Neon? Why havent you voted yet?
Lucy and Neon both remind me of their other civ games. When I played against mafia!Lucy she was kinda dragging the thread into things that weren't really important (like in LGM when she focused on me/kate/jack being in the same family for so long) and she isn't doing that here, nor did she do that in Felt. Neon I have less to say about, but I like how she said she's screwing around because we're all friends here and not just murdering each other.
I don't like voting early. Why do I have to vote 1/4th of the way through D1?
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DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:30 amI'm confused by this one Tutuu, why is commentary on projection AI?tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:12 amthis is a 500 iq post if ur mafiastaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:08 am i agree. i think bereft is projecting his view of the game on to me and that's towny too.
earlier u talk about thinking ur projecting ur stuff to lucy and now ur justifying tr on bereft for the same reason - projection. ergo u gotta be town. i believe it
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 ami believe that lucy would want to tryhard in this game as town but i find it slightly more difficult to believe that she would have two confident townreads that she was willing to lock less than 2 pages in the game, particularly since the game got off to such a slow/boring start
maybe im just projecting my own struggle to feel invested into this game so far on to lucy but it felt like she was rushing the solving process in a way that is kinda uncharacteristic for her
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Aren't you in school???Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:32 amI am wishy washy on Kate because I don't make reads off of two posts. I can't do that I need more content.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:20 am @Dennis town === falcon equity and sig equity maybe / Why are you wishy washing on Kate. Make a read, town or wolf? Why not voting for lucy or Neon? Why havent you voted yet?
Lucy and Neon both remind me of their other civ games. When I played against mafia!Lucy she was kinda dragging the thread into things that weren't really important (like in LGM when she focused on me/kate/jack being in the same family for so long) and she isn't doing that here, nor did she do that in Felt. Neon I have less to say about, but I like how she said she's screwing around because we're all friends here and not just murdering each other.
I don't like voting early. Why do I have to vote 1/4th of the way through D1?
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IVE BEEN CAUGHTKate wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:36 amAren't you in school???Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:32 amI am wishy washy on Kate because I don't make reads off of two posts. I can't do that I need more content.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:20 am @Dennis town === falcon equity and sig equity maybe / Why are you wishy washing on Kate. Make a read, town or wolf? Why not voting for lucy or Neon? Why havent you voted yet?
Lucy and Neon both remind me of their other civ games. When I played against mafia!Lucy she was kinda dragging the thread into things that weren't really important (like in LGM when she focused on me/kate/jack being in the same family for so long) and she isn't doing that here, nor did she do that in Felt. Neon I have less to say about, but I like how she said she's screwing around because we're all friends here and not just murdering each other.
I don't like voting early. Why do I have to vote 1/4th of the way through D1?
No, I'm in a free period right now. It actually ends in one minute, then I might come back in about 20 during lunch and then I'm out until about 2:10. Oh shoot the bell just rang okay bye
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LMAOOOOOKate wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:36 amAren't you in school???Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:32 amI am wishy washy on Kate because I don't make reads off of two posts. I can't do that I need more content.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:20 am @Dennis town === falcon equity and sig equity maybe / Why are you wishy washing on Kate. Make a read, town or wolf? Why not voting for lucy or Neon? Why havent you voted yet?
Lucy and Neon both remind me of their other civ games. When I played against mafia!Lucy she was kinda dragging the thread into things that weren't really important (like in LGM when she focused on me/kate/jack being in the same family for so long) and she isn't doing that here, nor did she do that in Felt. Neon I have less to say about, but I like how she said she's screwing around because we're all friends here and not just murdering each other.
I don't like voting early. Why do I have to vote 1/4th of the way through D1?
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Alright, I'm caught up now.
Town are Baudib, Bereft, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Porscha, Rondo, SPF, Tutuu
Wolves in Lucy, Seanzie, Creature
Town are Baudib, Bereft, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Porscha, Rondo, SPF, Tutuu
Wolves in Lucy, Seanzie, Creature
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Just makes sense to me.
Your entrance analysis looked like a way to break rvs, but only JUST that. A way to look like you are breaking rvs and contributing without actually doing so.
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What about me?
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So kate is dennis's mom. Thats just too wholesome. My mom has also expressed interest in playing mafia. She cant speak english. But its just too adorable. How can i vote kate. If my mom was playing with me how could i vote her?
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Nah.
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I've not seen anything that I'd say is AI indicative from your slot, nor have I seen any actual arguments for your wagon existing. Why?
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I think there's a wolf there irregardless of Kate's alignment
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If my mom played she'd be my d1 policy vote and my n1 policy yeet.
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I disagree on one of these reads. I don't think SPF has been very towny at all.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:48 amI said 3 seem townier than one. Not that one wasn't townie.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:47 amFill me in, which one isn't towny?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.
However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.
SPF, Baudib and Tutuu have been a lot townier than Creature.
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