Cartomancy [Game Over]

[tutuu]

So friends, asking as a man who's read nothing and is surprised at the Kate wagon being a 4 person wagon 13 hours in. If Kate is town, is there a wolf below?

Voters: Creature, tutuu, Baudib1, staypositivefriend

she has 20% of the total votes, 25% time passed into the day phase. u surprised?

[MacDougall]

So friends, asking as a man who's read nothing and is surprised at the Kate wagon being a 4 person wagon 13 hours in. If Kate is town, is there a wolf below?

Voters: Creature, tutuu, Baudib1, staypositivefriend

If Kate is mafia, is there not?

I think it's dependent on later data to tell that one. So far Tutuu's response to my ask could be seen as both a noncommittal bus and a swipe at the LHF for example.

Eh I'd say that if Kate is mafia that there's a mafia voting her almost always. Maybe even more mafia than if she's town. Mafia love getting votes onto mafia early when they're under pressure.

[falcon45ca]

OK, mental note: Mac has Koala angst.




Also, Rondo and his big player wall summary...wait, where's the pukey emoji?

[DrWilgy]

The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.

Fill me in, which one isn't towny?

[MacDougall]

The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.

Fill me in, which one isn't towny?

I said 3 seem townier than one. Not that one wasn't townie.

SPF, Baudib and Tutuu have been a lot townier than Creature.

[tutuu]

The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.

Fill me in, which one isn't towny?

he just voted creature a few posts above this

i think wilgy is ... towny for this?

[DrWilgy]

So friends, asking as a man who's read nothing and is surprised at the Kate wagon being a 4 person wagon 13 hours in. If Kate is town, is there a wolf below?

Voters: Creature, tutuu, Baudib1, staypositivefriend

she has 20% of the total votes, 25% time passed into the day phase. u surprised?

Yes, I believe I already said I was.

Lately I've noticed a trend of early wagons not forming quickly.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

Yes?

[DrWilgy]

So friends, asking as a man who's read nothing and is surprised at the Kate wagon being a 4 person wagon 13 hours in. If Kate is town, is there a wolf below?

Voters: Creature, tutuu, Baudib1, staypositivefriend

If Kate is mafia, is there not?

I think it's dependent on later data to tell that one. So far Tutuu's response to my ask could be seen as both a noncommittal bus and a swipe at the LHF for example.

Eh I'd say that if Kate is mafia that there's a mafia voting her almost always. Maybe even more mafia than if she's town. Mafia love getting votes onto mafia early when they're under pressure.

I'd have to see if any voter is actually under pressure to warrant this.

[tutuu]

The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.

Fill me in, which one isn't towny?

he just voted creature a few posts above this

i think wilgy is ... towny for this?

me on my way to make the dumbest reads ever

man, i live for this shit

lock it in, wilgy town

[DrWilgy]

The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.

Fill me in, which one isn't towny?

he just voted creature a few posts above this

i think wilgy is ... towny for this?

why though? Derp?

[tutuu]

ya

[MacDougall]

So friends, asking as a man who's read nothing and is surprised at the Kate wagon being a 4 person wagon 13 hours in. If Kate is town, is there a wolf below?

Voters: Creature, tutuu, Baudib1, staypositivefriend

If Kate is mafia, is there not?

I think it's dependent on later data to tell that one. So far Tutuu's response to my ask could be seen as both a noncommittal bus and a swipe at the LHF for example.

Eh I'd say that if Kate is mafia that there's a mafia voting her almost always. Maybe even more mafia than if she's town. Mafia love getting votes onto mafia early when they're under pressure.

I'd have to see if any voter is actually under pressure to warrant this.

Uh you misunderstand. Mafia vote their partners when they are under early pressure. It's good for optics to do so early cuz you have ample time to end up putting your vote elsewhere. If Kate is taking heat like this early as mafia, one or more of the voters is her partner for sure imo.

[Kate]

I agree with SPF that this is a super unexciting game so far. I am just gonna vote the easiest wolf to catch and try to break the game open with associatives.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Also from my limited games with rondo he seems to be playing within his civ meta right now so probably wouldn’t want to vote their today

Just read through once and I for now agree on this. This is almost identical to the way he opened the last game and he was civ. Unless of course, he's doing that to make us think that... anyway nothing about his gameplay pings me thus far.

Lots of pings in this thread for a cold day 1 from many people. I'll have to reread tomorrow for any deeper thoughts.

Explain to me what's obvscum about this post

She agrees with Rondo meta, immediately undermines her own view, then promises a future reread (a reread? Thread was literally 2 pages) that has to happen before she gives any deeper thoughts. It's a waffly nothingburger of a post.

It was not deep like I said, I had a long day and wanted to do a quick read through. I'm not used to day 1s with this much posting. Our games used to start off slow. While reading the only thing that popped out to me was that Rondo did the same thing in 2 games in a row, which I noted. I have 1 game with him before this game, so I can't be positive that is AI I wanted to reread it and see what others thought.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Negative 2 games minimum, I am pretty sure you were in Macs secret player list making it 3

[Seanzie]

Alright Seanzie looks good page 1

Why?

[Kate]

So friends, asking as a man who's read nothing and is surprised at the Kate wagon being a 4 person wagon 13 hours in. If Kate is town, is there a wolf below?

Voters: Creature, tutuu, Baudib1, staypositivefriend

she has 20% of the total votes, 25% time passed into the day phase. u surprised?

Kate IS town.

[Kate]

Negative 2 games minimum, I am pretty sure you were in Macs secret player list making it 3

Me? No I wasn't I missed the start. I signed up for it but was not in it.

[tutuu]

I agree with SPF that this is a super unexciting game so far. I am just gonna vote the easiest wolf to catch and try to break the game open with associatives.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Also from my limited games with rondo he seems to be playing within his civ meta right now so probably wouldn’t want to vote their today

Just read through once and I for now agree on this. This is almost identical to the way he opened the last game and he was civ. Unless of course, he's doing that to make us think that... anyway nothing about his gameplay pings me thus far.

Lots of pings in this thread for a cold day 1 from many people. I'll have to reread tomorrow for any deeper thoughts.

Explain to me what's obvscum about this post

She agrees with Rondo meta, immediately undermines her own view, then promises a future reread (a reread? Thread was literally 2 pages) that has to happen before she gives any deeper thoughts. It's a waffly nothingburger of a post.

It was not deep like I said, I had a long day and wanted to do a quick read through. I'm not used to day 1s with this much posting. Our games used to start off slow. While reading the only thing that popped out to me was that Rondo did the same thing in 2 games in a row, which I noted. I have 1 game with him before this game, so I can't be positive that is AI I wanted to reread it and see what others thought.

fun contrast innit? :P
how from your pov its too fast, and a lot of other players expressed boredom at how slow it is for them
iss like we're on a cultural exchange program

[Seanzie]

I see the Kate first post thing, but I am not going to do anything about the Kate first post thing.

[Kate]

I agree with SPF that this is a super unexciting game so far. I am just gonna vote the easiest wolf to catch and try to break the game open with associatives.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Also from my limited games with rondo he seems to be playing within his civ meta right now so probably wouldn’t want to vote their today

Just read through once and I for now agree on this. This is almost identical to the way he opened the last game and he was civ. Unless of course, he's doing that to make us think that... anyway nothing about his gameplay pings me thus far.

Lots of pings in this thread for a cold day 1 from many people. I'll have to reread tomorrow for any deeper thoughts.

Explain to me what's obvscum about this post

She agrees with Rondo meta, immediately undermines her own view, then promises a future reread (a reread? Thread was literally 2 pages) that has to happen before she gives any deeper thoughts. It's a waffly nothingburger of a post.

It was not deep like I said, I had a long day and wanted to do a quick read through. I'm not used to day 1s with this much posting. Our games used to start off slow. While reading the only thing that popped out to me was that Rondo did the same thing in 2 games in a row, which I noted. I have 1 game with him before this game, so I can't be positive that is AI I wanted to reread it and see what others thought.

fun contrast innit? :P
how from your pov its too fast, and a lot of other players expressed boredom at how slow it is for them
iss like we're on a cultural exchange program

It is very different, but for the most part it's been a lot of fun learning the new tactics and vernacular. And meeting the new players.

[Dennis]

I don't see myself voting Lucy or Falcon

why?

Falcon's way of playing reminds me of the other two games I've played with him, laid back and not super focused until something fun happens and he was town then. Like he's joking around and not 100% on topic.

[Kate]

And of course, trying to meld the old with the new!

[DrWilgy]

We just voted off falcon day 1 so we can’t do that again this game

No, do it, it was great.

[DrWilgy]

i agree. i think bereft is projecting his view of the game on to me and that's towny too.

this is a 500 iq post if ur mafia

earlier u talk about thinking ur projecting ur stuff to lucy and now ur justifying tr on bereft for the same reason - projection. ergo u gotta be town. i believe it

I'm confused by this one Tutuu, why is commentary on projection AI?

[Seanzie]

We just voted off falcon day 1 so we can’t do that again this game

No, do it, it was great.

Yes, it is NEVER a bad idea to vote Falcon off early.

[Dennis]

@Dennis town === falcon equity and sig equity maybe / Why are you wishy washing on Kate. Make a read, town or wolf? Why not voting for lucy or Neon? Why havent you voted yet?

I am wishy washy on Kate because I don't make reads off of two posts. I can't do that I need more content.

Lucy and Neon both remind me of their other civ games. When I played against mafia!Lucy she was kinda dragging the thread into things that weren't really important (like in LGM when she focused on me/kate/jack being in the same family for so long) and she isn't doing that here, nor did she do that in Felt. Neon I have less to say about, but I like how she said she's screwing around because we're all friends here and not just murdering each other.

I don't like voting early. Why do I have to vote 1/4th of the way through D1?

[tutuu]

i agree. i think bereft is projecting his view of the game on to me and that's towny too.

this is a 500 iq post if ur mafia

earlier u talk about thinking ur projecting ur stuff to lucy and now ur justifying tr on bereft for the same reason - projection. ergo u gotta be town. i believe it

I'm confused by this one Tutuu, why is commentary on projection AI?

locking sig and sean in as town

i believe that lucy would want to tryhard in this game as town but i find it slightly more difficult to believe that she would have two confident townreads that she was willing to lock less than 2 pages in the game, particularly since the game got off to such a slow/boring start

maybe im just projecting my own struggle to feel invested into this game so far on to lucy but it felt like she was rushing the solving process in a way that is kinda uncharacteristic for her

[DrWilgy]

Porscha town due to feeling comfortable and posting analysis already in this playerlist

This looks like a clean attempt to pocket imo.

[Kate]

@Dennis town === falcon equity and sig equity maybe / Why are you wishy washing on Kate. Make a read, town or wolf? Why not voting for lucy or Neon? Why havent you voted yet?

I am wishy washy on Kate because I don't make reads off of two posts. I can't do that I need more content.

Lucy and Neon both remind me of their other civ games. When I played against mafia!Lucy she was kinda dragging the thread into things that weren't really important (like in LGM when she focused on me/kate/jack being in the same family for so long) and she isn't doing that here, nor did she do that in Felt. Neon I have less to say about, but I like how she said she's screwing around because we're all friends here and not just murdering each other.

I don't like voting early. Why do I have to vote 1/4th of the way through D1?

Aren't you in school???

[DrWilgy]

Ahhh never played street fighter

Which is weird since I adore DoA and King of Fighters

What about DoA volleyball?

[Dennis]

@Dennis town === falcon equity and sig equity maybe / Why are you wishy washing on Kate. Make a read, town or wolf? Why not voting for lucy or Neon? Why havent you voted yet?

I am wishy washy on Kate because I don't make reads off of two posts. I can't do that I need more content.

Lucy and Neon both remind me of their other civ games. When I played against mafia!Lucy she was kinda dragging the thread into things that weren't really important (like in LGM when she focused on me/kate/jack being in the same family for so long) and she isn't doing that here, nor did she do that in Felt. Neon I have less to say about, but I like how she said she's screwing around because we're all friends here and not just murdering each other.

I don't like voting early. Why do I have to vote 1/4th of the way through D1?

Aren't you in school???

IVE BEEN CAUGHT

No, I'm in a free period right now. It actually ends in one minute, then I might come back in about 20 during lunch and then I'm out until about 2:10. Oh shoot the bell just rang okay bye

[tutuu]

@Dennis town === falcon equity and sig equity maybe / Why are you wishy washing on Kate. Make a read, town or wolf? Why not voting for lucy or Neon? Why havent you voted yet?

I am wishy washy on Kate because I don't make reads off of two posts. I can't do that I need more content.

Lucy and Neon both remind me of their other civ games. When I played against mafia!Lucy she was kinda dragging the thread into things that weren't really important (like in LGM when she focused on me/kate/jack being in the same family for so long) and she isn't doing that here, nor did she do that in Felt. Neon I have less to say about, but I like how she said she's screwing around because we're all friends here and not just murdering each other.

I don't like voting early. Why do I have to vote 1/4th of the way through D1?

Aren't you in school???

LMAOOOOO

[DrWilgy]

Alright, I'm caught up now.

Town are Baudib, Bereft, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Porscha, Rondo, SPF, Tutuu

Wolves in Lucy, Seanzie, Creature

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: Seanzie ] aubergine

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Seanzie ] aubergine

Hello

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: Seanzie ] aubergine

Hello

Sup dude? How's that streak feeling?

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Seanzie ] aubergine

Hello

Sup dude? How's that streak feeling?

Well, as you've figured out, it clearly has been broken.

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: Seanzie ] aubergine

Hello

Sup dude? How's that streak feeling?

Well, as you've figured out, it clearly has been broken.

Just makes sense to me.

Your entrance analysis looked like a way to break rvs, but only JUST that. A way to look like you are breaking rvs and contributing without actually doing so.

[Kate]

Alright, I'm caught up now.

Town are Baudib, Bereft, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Porscha, Rondo, SPF, Tutuu

Wolves in Lucy, Seanzie, Creature

What about me?

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Seanzie ] aubergine

Hello

Sup dude? How's that streak feeling?

Well, as you've figured out, it clearly has been broken.

Just makes sense to me.

Your entrance analysis looked like a way to break rvs, but only JUST that. A way to look like you are breaking rvs and contributing without actually doing so.

[tutuu]

So kate is dennis's mom. Thats just too wholesome. My mom has also expressed interest in playing mafia. She cant speak english. But its just too adorable. How can i vote kate. If my mom was playing with me how could i vote her?

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Also @RondoDimBuckle my answer is I believe Mac believes his read on you I do not age with it. I also dont disagree with it.

Form an option please

Nah.

[DrWilgy]

Alright, I'm caught up now.

Town are Baudib, Bereft, Dennis, Falcon, Neon, Porscha, Rondo, SPF, Tutuu

Wolves in Lucy, Seanzie, Creature

What about me?

I've not seen anything that I'd say is AI indicative from your slot, nor have I seen any actual arguments for your wagon existing. Why?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So friends, asking as a man who's read nothing and is surprised at the Kate wagon being a 4 person wagon 13 hours in. If Kate is town, is there a wolf below?

Voters: Creature, tutuu, Baudib1, staypositivefriend

I think there's a wolf there irregardless of Kate's alignment

[DrWilgy]

So kate is dennis's mom. Thats just too wholesome. My mom has also expressed interest in playing mafia. She cant speak english. But its just too adorable. How can i vote kate. If my mom was playing with me how could i vote her?

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

If my mom played she'd be my d1 policy vote and my n1 policy yeet.

[tutuu]

So kate is dennis's mom. Thats just too wholesome. My mom has also expressed interest in playing mafia. She cant speak english. But its just too adorable. How can i vote kate. If my mom was playing with me how could i vote her?

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

If my mom played she'd be my d1 policy vote and my n1 policy yeet.

LMAO

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.

Fill me in, which one isn't towny?

I said 3 seem townier than one. Not that one wasn't townie.

SPF, Baudib and Tutuu have been a lot townier than Creature.

I disagree on one of these reads. I don't think SPF has been very towny at all.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Alright Seanzie looks good page 1

Why?

+1000

[Seanzie]

Somebody do something to make me feel something.