Cartomancy [Game Over]

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm baffled the recent spate of shade on Dennis/Rondo but I couldn't keep track of the people doing this.

That is to say I think the people doing this are >randwolf and I want a list on them so I can go bash them.

lol what does this even mean?

He's suspicious of people sussing us

oh well the people sussing me and actually trying to push me are falcon and sig

[RondoDimBuckle]

Maaaybe Dennis, but I think Sig is the worst of the bunch

[Jackofhearts2005]

Have at it, folks. My body is ready. My mind is clear. Not really because I have homework I still have to do. But come at me anyways.

[Insert badass gif of someone standing menacingly preparing for a fight or smth here]

[Bereft]

Dennis said they think you're likely town in their readlist.

[Bereft]

I also wanna yeet Rondo but it’s not the ideal play today. I’m just saying. Rondo bad.

Hahaha, got more than caveman speak on why I am bad?

I almost always feel you are town when we play together. You aren’t shining, here.

Also Seanzie did that Twist thing earlier where they expressed Roxy's exact concern about Dennis and then voted Kate.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Dennis said they think you're likely town in their readlist.

yeah but not as town as the other oracle so I see that as a sus

[Bereft]

Dennis said they think you're likely town in their readlist.

yeah but not as town as the other oracle so I see that as a sus

Oh come on. You know nobody else believes in this logic except you.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I also wanna yeet Rondo but it’s not the ideal play today. I’m just saying. Rondo bad.

Hahaha, got more than caveman speak on why I am bad?

I almost always feel you are town when we play together. You aren’t shining, here.

Also Seanzie did that Twist thing earlier where they expressed Roxy's exact concern about Dennis and then voted Kate.

I think you might have it backwards? He sussed Kate a bunch then voted Roxy? Or Maybe I have it backwards. Gimmy a moment

I feel like Dennis is more concerned with just hanging out in the thread and looking helpful and less concerned with hunting as he was in his first two games.

However, it still would be quite a good scum game for a first-time scum...

gotta follow my gut though and...

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

Spoiler: show

You all expected me to vote Dennis, didn't you? Tricked ya! For now it is just tinfoil... but it is tinfoil I haven't been able to shake all game, and it has come and gone in waves, and the wave right now is cresting.

Seanzie using a post talking about Dennis to stealthily slide onto Roxy without explanation:

Never mind, completely wrong. Can you post the thing as a quote?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Dennis said they think you're likely town in their readlist.

yeah but not as town as the other oracle so I see that as a sus

Oh come on. You know nobody else believes in this logic except you.

Disagree. Lucy does otherwise I would be dead and you guys would be red faced

[Bereft]

Ps this is my only appearance this day. I voted Dennis

Bc I won't be back or respond to anyone.

If you wont highlight how its obvious on Dennis I wont vote him or rally on your behalf

Fu Rondo for making me want to help you


Every game, 2 so far, he finds his own suspicions he did it in his own fashion, this game feels like he is being led in the thread by whatever bad town play is in action. No questions just doing what he told. He did not do this before in either game. It feels like a mafia member told him here's how to be bad. And it's obv bc It does not fit with his play from the other games.



Ps this ploy will no longer work and will self destruct when I hit submit.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Ps this is my only appearance this day. I voted Dennis

Bc I won't be back or respond to anyone.

If you wont highlight how its obvious on Dennis I wont vote him or rally on your behalf

Fu Rondo for making me want to help you


Every game, 2 so far, he finds his own suspicions he did it in his own fashion, this game feels like he is being led in the thread by whatever bad town play is in action. No questions just doing what he told. He did not do this before in either game. It feels like a mafia member told him here's how to be bad. And it's obv bc It does not fit with his play from the other games.



Ps this ploy will no longer work and will self destruct when I hit submit.

Yeah I believe I was waiting for others to talk about this one before I did

[Bereft]

@sig I did come back, you not reading beige giving thoughts is a bad look for you.

Lucy saying I was frozen is odd considering we had exchanges when I did come back and vote

I don't understand Roxy's incentive to say this as a wolf.

This post gets made because Roxy is tilted at any claims that they left.
I'll go and peruse this section to check.

[Jackofhearts2005]

This checks out, if we still assume you count as IC because you lied about being oracle (which I very much question why that decision was made but okay)

I do think you genuinely believe everyone thinks you're town because you CC'd so sure, you can be town. For now.

I have two claims to IC this game one of them is oracle

I don't think I want to open this can of worms

I LIED YES I DO AAAAGAGAGAGAG what are those claims

If you cant figure them out then you dont get to know SON

That's mildly frustrating but I also don't think I care enough to figure it out so I think I'll just let this cultivate attention. Maybe someone else can tell me cuz I'm not about to do both that and this french homework

Lucy claimed day 1

Rondo counter claimed and everyone is saying “he’s trolling” and ignoring it. Which honestly is ridiculous we should be voting him out for counter claiming a Cleared town and a acting as if he’s lock town

Yikes.gif

I think that claim is 100% NAI but I don’t like someone in the suspect pool pushing someone else in the suspect pool for bad reasons.

[Bereft]

But "bad look"/"odd". This is so weird.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I also wanna yeet Rondo but it’s not the ideal play today. I’m just saying. Rondo bad.

Hahaha, got more than caveman speak on why I am bad?

I almost always feel you are town when we play together. You aren’t shining, here.

Also Seanzie did that Twist thing earlier where they expressed Roxy's exact concern about Dennis and then voted Kate.

Are you…confusing Rondo and Seanzie?

When I’m talking to Rondo about Rondo, you chime in about 3 other players and idk what that has to do with the post you quoted lol.

[Bereft]

I also wanna yeet Rondo but it’s not the ideal play today. I’m just saying. Rondo bad.

Hahaha, got more than caveman speak on why I am bad?

I almost always feel you are town when we play together. You aren’t shining, here.

Also Seanzie did that Twist thing earlier where they expressed Roxy's exact concern about Dennis and then voted Kate.

Are you…confusing Rondo and Seanzie?

When I’m talking to Rondo about Rondo, you chime in about 3 other players and idk what that has to do with the post you quoted lol.

No I'm not.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@sig I did come back, you not reading beige giving thoughts is a bad look for you.

Lucy saying I was frozen is odd considering we had exchanges when I did come back and vote

I don't understand Roxy's incentive to say this as a wolf.

This post gets made because Roxy is tilted at any claims that they left.
I'll go and peruse this section to check.

I don’t get why that’s town indicative.

W!Roxy is light shading Sig (distancing? fucking maybe) and defending against Lucy. Why would a wolf not make that post? Idgi.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Spoiler: show

I also wanna yeet Rondo but it’s not the ideal play today. I’m just saying. Rondo bad.

Hahaha, got more than caveman speak on why I am bad?

I almost always feel you are town when we play together. You aren’t shining, here.

Also Seanzie did that Twist thing earlier where they expressed Roxy's exact concern about Dennis and then voted Kate.

Are you…confusing Rondo and Seanzie?

When I’m talking to Rondo about Rondo, you chime in about 3 other players and idk what that has to do with the post you quoted lol.

Spoiler: show

I also wanna yeet Rondo but it’s not the ideal play today. I’m just saying. Rondo bad.

Hahaha, got more than caveman speak on why I am bad?

I almost always feel you are town when we play together. You aren’t shining, here.

Also Seanzie did that Twist thing earlier where they expressed Roxy's exact concern about Dennis and then voted Kate.

I think you might have it backwards? He sussed Kate a bunch then voted Roxy? Or Maybe I have it backwards. Gimmy a moment

I feel like Dennis is more concerned with just hanging out in the thread and looking helpful and less concerned with hunting as he was in his first two games.

However, it still would be quite a good scum game for a first-time scum...

gotta follow my gut though and...

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

Spoiler: show

You all expected me to vote Dennis, didn't you? Tricked ya! For now it is just tinfoil... but it is tinfoil I haven't been able to shake all game, and it has come and gone in waves, and the wave right now is cresting.

Seanzie using a post talking about Dennis to stealthily slide onto Roxy without explanation:

Never mind, completely wrong. Can you post the thing as a quote?

I also wanna yeet Rondo but it’s not the ideal play today. I’m just saying. Rondo bad.

Hahaha, got more than caveman speak on why I am bad?

I almost always feel you are town when we play together. You aren’t shining, here.

Also Seanzie did that Twist thing earlier where they expressed Roxy's exact concern about Dennis and then voted Kate.

Are you…confusing Rondo and Seanzie?

When I’m talking to Rondo about Rondo, you chime in about 3 other players and idk what that has to do with the post you quoted lol.

No I'm not.

yeah I am waiting for an answer on that one. It is odd.

[Bereft]

Hmmm? Jack shaded Rondo; Seanzie shaded Dennis
I was looking for all such instances of shade of Dennis/Rondo and deciding how much I liked any of it.

[Creature]

Alright I am fine with Roxy and sig getting got.

Btw, where do you all stand on Jack and Kate/Sabi? I think I'm too tunneled on them.

[staypositivefriend]

This game confuses me currently but I haven't been able to articulate why.

can you try to? it would be helpful to hear right now

[Creature]

Town

lucy (she/her)
falcon45ca (he/him)
DrWilgy (he/him)
tutuu (any)
Seanzie (he/him or they/them)
staypositivefriend (she/her)

More likely town than not

Jackofhearts2005 (he/him)
Porscha (she/her)
Sabiplz (they/them) - Replaced Kate N2
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo)

Which leaves me with:

Mafia

Bereft (he/him)
Creature (he/him)
MacDougall (he/him)
Roxy (she/her)
sig (he/him)

Of course this is a GTH mafia team. Realistically my PoE is more like the 2nd and last group, I'd be willing to cut Jack and Sabi out of PoE but still not certain on those two

What's up with Bereft?

[staypositivefriend]

just a random thought but it occurred to me that i think the odds of tutuu being mafia are particularly higher than rondo or seanzie being mafia even though i have them lower in my list of townreads

[staypositivefriend]

also yes, the outcome today has been obvious from the beginning and it seems to me that this was very bad for the gamestate in general, even if roxy is mafia

[RondoDimBuckle]

just a random thought but it occurred to me that i think the odds of tutuu being mafia are particularly higher than rondo or seanzie being mafia even though i have them lower in my list of townreads

My odds of being mafia are 0. Big fat ball of nothing

[robyn]

there’s probably one in sig/tutuu
and i have no idea which

[Bereft]

This game confuses me currently but I haven't been able to articulate why.

can you try to? it would be helpful to hear right now

It boils down to, I do not think the interactions I've observed line up with how I or even others understand the game.
I'm trying to collect what I'm seeing but its taking forever.

Whats your opinion on Roxy/Creature being partnered?

[Bereft]

just a random thought but it occurred to me that i think the odds of tutuu being mafia are particularly higher than rondo or seanzie being mafia even though i have them lower in my list of townreads

there’s probably one in sig/tutuu
and i have no idea which

Agree to both.

[Dennis]

I'm baffled the recent spate of shade on Dennis/Rondo but I couldn't keep track of the people doing this.

yeah I was baffled by Dennis' shade on me too

That's because I'm very scared of you from our experiences together and I was getting too comfortable with you

[Bereft]

How about Jack/Creature, do people think they can be partnered.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm baffled the recent spate of shade on Dennis/Rondo but I couldn't keep track of the people doing this.

yeah I was baffled by Dennis' shade on me too

That's because I'm very scared of you from our experiences together and I was getting too comfortable with you

Normally I would say that is a good instinct but its fine this game. I am IC you can relax and just chill. Let me be fire with lucy

[Dennis]

Town

lucy (she/her)
falcon45ca (he/him)
DrWilgy (he/him)
tutuu (any)
Seanzie (he/him or they/them)
staypositivefriend (she/her)

More likely town than not

Jackofhearts2005 (he/him)
Porscha (she/her)
Sabiplz (they/them) - Replaced Kate N2
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo)

Which leaves me with:

Mafia

Bereft (he/him)
Creature (he/him)
MacDougall (he/him)
Roxy (she/her)
sig (he/him)

Of course this is a GTH mafia team. Realistically my PoE is more like the 2nd and last group, I'd be willing to cut Jack and Sabi out of PoE but still not certain on those two

What's up with Bereft?

Process of elimination, I found everyone else more towny than him so he gets plopped in there until something changes

[staypositivefriend]

@Bereft -

there is a somewhat awkward shift between creature shotgun townreading roxy early on:

I think Roxy is town. They're being too deliberately provocative.

to creature capitulating to the threadstate consensus that roxy is wolfy and pushing on her and calling her one of his top townreads

creature did not form a real scumread on roxy until roxy was being widely suspected, and prior to that point, he tried to defend her. roxy made a point of throwing out creature's name as a point of suspicion a few times but never really pursued the read further. i see no reason why they are incompatible

[Creature]

Final post for this day phase i jave work & wanna go 2 bed early

My legacy:

I think ROXY and SIG are outed and consensus mafia in anti-spewing

Alright I'll go with that. Although I don't think sig is consensus?

I think CREATURE, FALCON, PORSCHA are the final 3 mafia, all have various degrees of townreads on them (ive cased everyone earlier in d3)

I think we are just all town here tbh.

JACK is my least confident townread, if im wrong earlier, get JACK

Ok I need another look on Jack.

WILGY im more confident in townreading but his standing with everyone isnt good. If im wrong earlier, get WILGY but i much rather u kill in order

Where do you all stand on DrWilgy now?

Everyone else i believe is considered consesus town / towncore

I don't think Kate/Sabi is consensus town at all. Also think Mac/SPF might contain wolf.

ROXY > SIG > CREATURE > FALCON > PORSCHA > JACK > WILGY is my preferred order of chops if i was all powerful and could control the chop from the grave

Meh I'll take the first two.

Dont flashwagon anyone. ROXY is in anti spewing. Dont throw the game

Echoing this.

P.S.: dont trust CREATURE'S bullshit that he cant be mafia with SIG and ROXY. Their "scumreads" on each other were terrible, awkward and are what made me think theyre mafia in the first place. Distancing is a concept thats well known to all of us

Just don't keep nitpicking my posts and saying I am w/w with them for close to no reason at all like you've been doing.

[staypositivefriend]

How about Jack/Creature, do people think they can be partnered.

yes but very hesitantly because the way jack has approached the roxy/creature dynamic today strikes me as bizarre in a world where they are W/W

[Bereft]

Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you

They were one of the sketchiest votes on Alison and I kinda thought his D1 entrance was forced. Also it feels like his wolfread on me was pure OMGUS and was implying I was pushing him for being known LHF (when he's clearly not being LHF this game).

Why was I the sketchiest vote? This narrative makes no sense .


Can’t comment on forced D1 it’s how I always come in I was joking it’s whatever.

I am/was LHF and used to be frequently misvoted, this is a very odd take. Plus my name keeps getting brought up meaning I’m still in the mix/LHF this game

Is Creature weaving a false narrative in your mind? What's your read on them?

I’d throw creature down as a scum lean, there response to me have been off for most of the game (I guess this falls more into the gut read camp) and he seems to be more actively pushing wagons than civ creature does.

I’d be curious to see if this Roxy flip is current since he’s been pushing it, but if she flips civ he’d be someone I’m eyeing a lot more.

He’s also on my ISO list so I’ll have more infor here soon

This post feels very teammate indicative if Creature flips W.

This is a fascinating post.

I've discovered that Dr. Wigly has been dropping off hard this game.

[Creature]

How about Jack/Creature, do people think they can be partnered.

lol I am already being partnered with two of my wolfreads. May as well add a third.

[staypositivefriend]

if roxy is mafia with any of sabi/wilgy/falcon then admittedly im not sure what theyre doing on the creature wagon instead of just voting for roxy

[Bereft]

@Bereft -

there is a somewhat awkward shift between creature shotgun townreading roxy early on:

I think Roxy is town. They're being too deliberately provocative.

to creature capitulating to the threadstate consensus that roxy is wolfy and pushing on her and calling her one of his top townreads

creature did not form a real scumread on roxy until roxy was being widely suspected, and prior to that point, he tried to defend her. roxy made a point of throwing out creature's name as a point of suspicion a few times but never really pursued the read further. i see no reason why they are incompatible

Eh, circumstantially with Creature being a competing wagon D1, I'm hesitant but I understand the opposition.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Bereft and Sig have secretly jumped on tutuu, or I didnt see them vote

Spoiler: show

Baudib1
0
No votes
Voters: None
Bereft
0
No votes
Voters: None
Creature
4
18%
Voters: Sabiplz, DrWilgy, falcon45ca, staypositivefriend
Dennis
1
5%
Voters: Roxy
DrWilgy
1
5%
Voters: Baudib1
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
lucy
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Porscha
0
No votes
Voters: None
RondoDimBuckle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Roxy
8
36%
Voters: Porscha, Jackofhearts2005, Dennis, tutuu, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, lucy, Creature
Sabiplz
0
No votes
Voters: None
Seanzie
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
staypositivefriend
0
No votes
Voters: None
tutuu
3
14%
Voters: MacDougall, Bereft, sig

[Bereft]

How about Jack/Creature, do people think they can be partnered.

lol I am already being partnered with two of my wolfreads. May as well add a third.

My point is that I don't think you're partnered.
What's your read on me anyways, thanks for reminding me, and not just like, "oh town".

[Creature]

How about Jack/Creature, do people think they can be partnered.

lol I am already being partnered with two of my wolfreads. May as well add a third.

My point is that I don't think you're partnered.
What's your read on me anyways, thanks for reminding me, and not just like, "oh town".

I have a townlean on you but I don't have a good reason to townread you besides "posts felt good" and also I don't know who's your main.

[falcon45ca]

Town

lucy (she/her)
falcon45ca (he/him)
DrWilgy (he/him)
tutuu (any)
Seanzie (he/him or they/them)
staypositivefriend (she/her)

More likely town than not

Jackofhearts2005 (he/him)
Porscha (she/her)
Sabiplz (they/them) - Replaced Kate N2
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo)

Which leaves me with:

Mafia

Bereft (he/him)
Creature (he/him)
MacDougall (he/him)
Roxy (she/her)
sig (he/him)

Of course this is a GTH mafia team. Realistically my PoE is more like the 2nd and last group, I'd be willing to cut Jack and Sabi out of PoE but still not certain on those two

Why am I so high, or even on, your town list? Why is Mac Maf?

[Creature]

Roxy is pretty much wolf in antispew who threw a tantrum and left. idc about the rumors Roxy is a strong wolf or whatever. This is not how a town ever plays.

Jack is pretty much opportunistically capitalizing every garbage read (like Alison and me). Someone also mentioned he was heavily in wolf meta.

Sabiplz tbh should've had enough time to have catch up here. Her posts all feel half-arsed and all she got was a crappy push on me. I know town!Sabi to be more bubbly and active.

I'm gonna be pretty pissed if any of them endgame as wolves here.

Sir you were in a hydra with me where I explainee my new job is busy and that's why I'm on a mafia break. What kinda fucking sr is this when you know the truth.

I dunno. I still think you can put more of an effort here. You blankly voting me as if you don't care what else is happening is really annoying and out of character for you.

[Dennis]

I'm beginning to regret formatting my reads list like this

The groups are not ordered in any way except obviously lucy being IC

Consider the 'More likely town than not' and 'Mafia' groups my remaining PoE

Now to address falcon unless I forgot something that's about to come back and bite me

[Creature]

Blindly following a dead townie is just as wrong as blindly following lucy.

Alison was wrong about splints and Neon. Both were suspected by her bc they tried to help me. She is wrong about me too but trying to convince a Blind Melon Chitlin (if falcon gets this musical reference I'll be impressed) town of it will be an uphill battle and one I am not going to do as that would mean to give up quality time with my Granddaughter. Never gonna happen. Nothing more important in life than family and love.

So this is all you get and deserve from me
You could have had an imv strong town but you all do not deserve me.

Gg mafia bc you are going to win bc of a weak town mindset.

Bleh reading Roxy's ISO is a wild ride.

[Dennis]

Town

lucy (she/her)
falcon45ca (he/him)
DrWilgy (he/him)
tutuu (any)
Seanzie (he/him or they/them)
staypositivefriend (she/her)

More likely town than not

Jackofhearts2005 (he/him)
Porscha (she/her)
Sabiplz (they/them) - Replaced Kate N2
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo)

Which leaves me with:

Mafia

Bereft (he/him)
Creature (he/him)
MacDougall (he/him)
Roxy (she/her)
sig (he/him)

Of course this is a GTH mafia team. Realistically my PoE is more like the 2nd and last group, I'd be willing to cut Jack and Sabi out of PoE but still not certain on those two

Why am I so high, or even on, your town list? Why is Mac Maf?

Shut up and let me townread you, stinker

I kinda liked how kept pushing Rondo despite the fact he was "IC". Like I thought it was weird too and very glad I didn't have to do it myself. Other than that nothing of note comes to mind but you play half seriously (joking around a lot) like the other civ games I played with you.

Ackkk, PoE. I should just make two groups, town and PoE like tutuu at this point. The other people in there are more town. He also felt a teeny bit weird when you were pushing him, but he also was getting frustrated so taking that into account its probably nothing.

[Dennis]

I am definitely better at finding town and elimming off of PoE. Probably why my D1 votes are always sheeping or bad votes

I also like being allowed to trust certain people's reads

[robyn]

i’m busy for the next few hours i have a party, stay on roxy, creature and jack i’m confident should only not die today because roxy is a slot

[DrWilgy]

Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you

They were one of the sketchiest votes on Alison and I kinda thought his D1 entrance was forced. Also it feels like his wolfread on me was pure OMGUS and was implying I was pushing him for being known LHF (when he's clearly not being LHF this game).

Why was I the sketchiest vote? This narrative makes no sense .


Can’t comment on forced D1 it’s how I always come in I was joking it’s whatever.

I am/was LHF and used to be frequently misvoted, this is a very odd take. Plus my name keeps getting brought up meaning I’m still in the mix/LHF this game

Is Creature weaving a false narrative in your mind? What's your read on them?

I’d throw creature down as a scum lean, there response to me have been off for most of the game (I guess this falls more into the gut read camp) and he seems to be more actively pushing wagons than civ creature does.

I’d be curious to see if this Roxy flip is current since he’s been pushing it, but if she flips civ he’d be someone I’m eyeing a lot more.

He’s also on my ISO list so I’ll have more infor here soon

This post feels very teammate indicative if Creature flips W.

This is a fascinating post.

I've discovered that Dr. Wigly has been dropping off hard this game.

What does this mean?

You keep making posts that have no meaning towards me and It's kinda silly at this point.

Like I remember skimming you saying "I'm wolfing like you would two years ago" how in the hell would that have any meaning to the thread?

It's at the point where your pushes on me just don't feel genuine. Add data that has meaning purpose or at least some base form of discussable logic to it.