Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[Alison]

falcon town

yea

[Alison]

dizzy eats a policy tunnel d3 if she doesn't bag 2 wolves

Two? Good to know.

high standards after anni game 4

I do not recall the game. I have more confidence in myself after my last two games though. I'm taking the compliment. ^^

you wrecked me/rico/dolby

tbf that team isnt exactly stacked

But would policy dizzy if no pelts by d3 for sure

[Dyslexicon]

Alison with the burns xD

[robyn]

tbf that team isnt exactly stacked

yeah, me with bad teams going to f3/4 is a tale as old as time

[Dyslexicon]

dizzy eats a policy tunnel d3 if she doesn't bag 2 wolves

Two? Good to know.

high standards after anni game 4

I do not recall the game. I have more confidence in myself after my last two games though. I'm taking the compliment. ^^

you wrecked me/rico/dolby

Not as hard as me and rest of town wrecked Marmot/c4/Logic in my next game =p

[Dyslexicon]

Anyway. I'm going to go to bed and dream about having Radishes tonight.

Good night, friends. ^^

[Sabiplz]

Can dizzy wreck me uwu

[Creature]

Just don't lynch me today.

That's all I ask.

So you're fine w/ being lynched tomorrow?




If you're actually Town, what difference does it make? A ML is a ML, regardless of the D1 or whatever

I am less likely to get mislynched tomorrow.

[Creature]

Hobestly the only reason I am afraid of getting mislynched here is because I am at three votes and there are no wagons getting four or more votes.

You should all start piling on someone otherwise you won't put wolves out of their comfort zone.

[Creature]

I am def selfpresing if needed but I would really rather not get considered to be lynched today.

[robyn]

I am def selfpresing if needed but I would really rather not get considered to be lynched today.

days r 48h

[Creature]

I am def selfpresing if needed but I would really rather not get considered to be lynched today.

days r 48h

Oh I thought EOD was today.

[Seanzie]

Attempting to sort players:

Town: Guillo, Marmot, Nut, Kate, Michelle, Sean
Also town, less reasoning: Scotty, Cape, pyxxy, Lily, Neon, Lucy
Should probably be town as well, but different tier: Golden, Radish

People I have sexy thoughts about: Ender, Rondo, IAWY, Sloonei

Everyone else I may have conflicted thoughts or no thoughts on. I may or may not have reasoning for any of these reads. Please compare notes.

Tell me about... me. Why am I town?

You literally always ask this. =p

I think you are town because of the way you are posting. I think you are solving the game in your head and pressuring people the way I'm used to seeing. I don't think I've been wrong on you yet, and we have played quite a few games together. So meta, if you will. I hope that suffices and pleases you.

I do always ask it, and last GoC, I caught you off your response.

Where does it look like I'm "solving in my head"? I've done fudgeall thus far.

[Creature]

Anyway get at least one wagon at five votes. It's beyond stupid there are like 36 votes in total but so far no wagon ever had more than 4 votes and now the top wagons are all at 3 votes.

[Creature]

It's gonna be a giant waste of time if you decide to wagon me though. You were warned.

[Creature]

I am almost at 100 posts and you all keep saying I am LHF.

Just wtf.

[robyn]

I am almost at 100 posts and you all keep saying I am LHF.

Just wtf.

post more

[Seanzie]

Why am I voting Lily?

[Creature]

I am almost at 100 posts and you all keep saying I am LHF.

Just wtf.

post more

Vote other people then. We can't even get a fucking wagon to 5 votes despite there being like 36 voters in total.

[Seanzie]

I don't really want to vote Creature or Golden. I didn't get to Ender, but I think Dennis is fine for now.

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

[robyn]

Lucy
Creature
TonyStarkPrime
Dennis
Lilypetal
RondoDimBuckle

Neon
EnderWiggin
Kate
Golden
MacDougall
Le petit poussin

SVS
Marmot
nutella
Pyxxy
Guillotine
Sloonei

DrWilgy
hollowkatt
Scotty
ilario

Urist
inawordyes
Party Crasher
Falcon45ca

Seanzie
Alison
Dyslexicon
Michelle
sabiplz

sig
Porscha
master radishes
Cape90

[Urist]

Hobestly the only reason I am afraid of getting mislynched here is because I am at three votes and there are no wagons getting four or more votes.

You should all start piling on someone otherwise you won't put wolves out of their comfort zone.

Have you never played a game on the syndicate?

[Marmot]

I am getting weird vibes from Michelle while catching up this morning

this read is not a good one

I kinda agree with it

Was this a read?

What's the point of this question?

Also i checked Michelle's ISO and im 100% certain she is town.

It was a response to Neon asking what reads she made?

[Creature]

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

Just to finally get a wagon to 5 votes

[Seanzie]

Lucy
Creature
TonyStarkPrime
Dennis
Lilypetal
RondoDimBuckle

Neon
EnderWiggin
Kate
Golden
MacDougall
Le petit poussin

SVS
Marmot
nutella
Pyxxy
Guillotine
Sloonei

DrWilgy
hollowkatt
Scotty
ilario

Urist
inawordyes
Party Crasher
Falcon45ca

Seanzie
Alison
Dyslexicon
Michelle
sabiplz

sig
Porscha
master radishes
Cape90

Tell me about Dennis.

[robyn]

Tell me about Dennis.

town

[Sabiplz]

Lucy
Creature
TonyStarkPrime
Dennis
Lilypetal
RondoDimBuckle

Neon
EnderWiggin
Kate
Golden
MacDougall
Le petit poussin

SVS
Marmot
nutella
Pyxxy
Guillotine
Sloonei

DrWilgy
hollowkatt
Scotty
ilario

Urist
inawordyes
Party Crasher
Falcon45ca

Seanzie
Alison
Dyslexicon
Michelle
sabiplz

sig
Porscha
master radishes
Cape90

Explain me :3

[robyn]

too unpredictable/can trick me

[Sabiplz]

Side eyeing Seanzie and Creature joining that Dennis wagon like that

[nutella]

I am 95%+ likely to use my gun on a lowposter by the way.

by choice or by rule? or both?

I can use it on anyone I want, but the way it works makes it a lot more profitable if I shoot a zeroposter that doesn't care about the game and will realistically be POE'd forever

You can just say it's a desperado it's ok lol

[Sabiplz]

too unpredictable/can trick me

What happened to my secret wolf tell

[Seanzie]

Tell me about Dennis.

town

Well, that clarifies your position quite nicely.

Why?

[robyn]

times are a changing

[Seanzie]

Side eyeing Seanzie and Creature joining that Dennis wagon like that

[robyn]

Tell me about Dennis.

town

Well, that clarifies your position quite nicely.

Why?

there's no such as internal justification

[robyn]

Tell me about Dennis.

town

Well, that clarifies your position quite nicely.

Why?

there's no such thing as internal justification

[Sabiplz]

times are a changing

How many pelts do I need to get for you to find me as town?

[Inawordyes]

Is it bad that I have no idea who TonyStarkPrime is within this game and also that I cannot recall a single Kate post despite so much of discussion revolving around her and reads of her?

[Marmot]

Something I noticed, Dennis seemed a lot more content talking/joking with Kate, than anyone else itt earlier.

I don't really think that's AI though, unless they're exactly wolf partners together like they were in Cartomancy

i mean i guess that makes sense regardless. i do tr kate and would put some weight on her read of dennis too

(I forgot to add) Dennis was reluctant to sign up for this game given the size.


Why do people scumread Dennis? I missed all of that content.

Omg I'm bored

Hi bored I'm Dennis

Hello child

YA HEAR THAT GUYS??? IM A KID THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO LET ME WIN AND IF YOU DONT ILL

I'll

uh

that parts a secret

You randed wolf huh.

Explain

Marmot didn't make that read, that was tutuu.

[Party Crasher]

lucy is objectively wolfsiding with her reads

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

37/40

-tutuu

[Guillotine]

IAWY and Guillotine have both expressed strong ‘HK never acts this way as town’ views.

I don’t know HK at all. I’m interested in takes on:

A) are iawy and Guillo reliable readers of HK
B) do their meta points ring true to others.

No.

I do think I have as much (maybe more) xp with HK, and it could go either way. We just chop him in another game off site where he acted like this. He was town. IRL happens also.

Thank you for the counterpoint. Is miseliming HK common?

happens. but get a read. I mean don't buy my words lol.

WHat is weirding me out is Guillo having trouble with HK being annoyed at him. Like we all know what would have happened if HK didn't react like he did. I mean.

What would have happened?

[Seanzie]

lucy is objectively wolfsiding with her reads

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

37/40

-tutuu

Oh, so are you like both an NPC and a hydra?

[robyn]

lucy is objectively wolfsiding with her reads

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

37/40

-tutuu

blame chatgpt

[robyn]

chatgpt put me at top on first rand lol

[Lilypetal]

lucy carry me through day 1 there are too many ppl and im scared

your reads list i agree with of the ppl i have reads on though

[Lilypetal]

(that's a joke)

[Lilypetal]

I am almost at 100 posts and you all keep saying I am LHF.

Just wtf.

post more

Vote other people then. We can't even get a fucking wagon to 5 votes despite there being like 36 voters in total.

what are u reads rn? whos ur bottom 3

[RondoDimBuckle]

omg yes Ender is playing. I will tunnel him. @hollowkatt join, it will be fun

rondo will join u

Negative, Ender has put himself in an interesting position. I want to see it play out

@hollowkatt @falcon45ca which one of your is a wolf if any? What are your opinions on each other?

I'm town, it's clearly laid out in my first post.



HK...is he town? Is he maf? I dunno, haven't thought about it too much as of yet. His reaction to Guillo's early tunnel is more towny than not, but it's not a lot to go off.

I am trying to decide if Falcon being willing to actually engage with me is indicative of him being a wolf because he doesnt want to get in a doom spiral or if he has learned from his past games with me. :think:

Spoiler: show

LOL [VOTE: Dennis ] aubergine
Also, light mode? eww

So who is going to get shot? Someone is getting a gun. Should we discuss best shot?

No. Whoever gets the gun should shoot their scum read. Simple!

Don't listen to Guillo, chat is good.

Guillo totally in wolf meta fwiw

Yet I dont see you pointing out anyone to kill or gathering everyone to discuss it. Easy callout, no action behind it

So who is going to get shot? Someone is getting a gun. Should we discuss best shot?

No. Whoever gets the gun should shoot their scum read. Simple!

Don't listen to Guillo, chat is good.

Guillo totally in wolf meta fwiw

I will probably ignore everyone and shoot whoever I want

Hope I don't win

Good good, let the chaos flow through you

Sabi immediatly jumping on Michelle is rand>scum. #neverrescind

explain further

Voters: Party Crasher, Neon, Creature, falcon45ca

Also at least one wolf in here

yet you fail to say which one you think it is? Perhaps its you?

ebwop

ebwop:

I dig it. Micro interactions like this feel very spontaneously and can be harder to pull off when you're hyper-conscious of your perceived association with the other person.

I dont get it.

The theory is basically that mafia partners are more conscious of how they look in relation to one another. As such, they might be more hesitant to engage in casual chatter like this early in a game. Their interactions might instead tend to feel more choreographed, prepared, or calculated. They'll pick their spots.

So when two players freely and spontaneously engage in a silly little side conversation, it can be taken as an indication that they do not have those concerns about perception against them.

This is not a rock solid tell, nor am I saying that I agree or disagree with pyxxy's read of sig and sabiplz. But I can see where the thought comes from, and it is a read I am willing to acknowledge at this stage of the game (even if I'm projecting my own interpretation onto it).

reasonable tell. my plan was to just wait out until numbers dwindle. most likely will sheep alison/mac if i think theyre town since this is their home arena and they'll probs get nkd early if theyre town. once the numbers die down we should work together if we're both still around.

If sloonie is wolf this is +EV of ilario being wolf imho. Ender will know if this is worth reading into better

Voters: Alison, lucy, MacDougall

One wolf here @MacDougall

Voters: Party Crasher, Neon, Creature, falcon45ca

Also at least one wolf in here

Creature only has two posts in the couple hours, and they're both saying that there's a wolf on the leading wagons.

@Creature is there a reason you feel confident there is a wolf on these wagons?

Also creature, same problem again. Which one of Lucy / Alison / Mac is the wolf? Perhaps its none and you are trying to sow division?

I agree. Creature rand> maf

Explain your working

Spoiler: show

So not voting toDay

Dennis
Kate
Golden
Zeus
Lucy
Ender

Not a fan of
Lily
Alison
Rondo

what i do

You seem to care enough to make an explanatory wall.
I haven't seen that from town!you before

Why do people scumread Michelle? I mean, I understand the reasoning, that she is a little stiff, but I sort of expect that in some capacity from her. I don't think of it as AI.

Also I found this particular read nuanced enough, I think it's rand!v for now.

In your estimation can Michelle fake it as wolf? If so then its rand!null

Are you partnered with Michelle?

Spoiler: show

Voters: Alison, lucy, MacDougall

One wolf here @MacDougall

Voters: Party Crasher, Neon, Creature, falcon45ca

Also at least one wolf in here

Creature only has two posts in the couple hours, and they're both saying that there's a wolf on the leading wagons.

@Creature is there a reason you feel confident there is a wolf on these wagons?

It's mostly a saying that any wagon with at least three voters is likely to contain at least one wolf in it regardless of the wagonee's alignment.

That is possibly true

(Quick math suggests in a standard 12v3 game, if there are three players on a wagon Day 1, there is a 48% chance they are all town, and thus a 52% chance that at least one of them is a wolf).


My qualm is that you didn't really explore any of the names, just listed them. Your name is even on one of those lists

ok marmot can be town but if creature flips town or 3p then I will have to re-eval

Neon's my strongest townread atm. She's the top poster, and a large amount of it is fluff yes, but she does seem to be naturally responding with game takes amidst her shitposting, and I think that combination of content is pretty townie.

It's also a drastic change from Holes Mafia, where she had trouble pushing other players in the game when she tried (namely me)

This is a quality post. If Marmot flips wolf then Neon is still town imho(Does that work? I think it does)

The thing with Guillo being that he got outed in anni G2 by HK because he tryed too hard to chop me D1. Not sure how helpfull this is actually. something something.

What is this trying to say? Someone translate

Wolves

Hollowkatt
Scotty
Sig
Kate
Golden

All of them individually.

Kate/Golden don't make sense as a pair but they both are individually wolfy.

Now I go to sleep

ok list minus kate, i was just considering going back to voting in scotty/golden

also want to see more from others on that low posting list like marmot, porscha

Porscha could be wolf and could be using low posting to make it to day 2 without giving anything away.

@Porscha can you iso Lily and Neon for me and give me some thots?

the dangerous trio

What are your thoughts on them? + Mac

Reading me as town

I don't think so Mac

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

I think he expects me to go off at him for town reading me. But he is too low posting for me to care

Spoiler: show

Hello everyone, as Party Crasher, I am here to share some information with you that I believe is crucial to our success as a town. I strongly suspect that Golden is Mafia, and I have evidence to support my claim.

Firstly, I want to establish my own credibility as a Town member. I have been actively participating in discussions and investigations throughout this game, and I have been advocating for the best interests of the Town. My voting record shows that I have consistently voted in favor of lynching suspected Mafia members, and I have been pushing for more investigations to uncover the truth.

Now, regarding Golden, I have observed some suspicious behavior from him. Golden has been relatively quiet in our discussions, and when he does speak, he tends to deflect attention away from himself and onto others. He has also been quick to jump on bandwagons and vote with the majority, which could indicate that he is trying to blend in and avoid suspicion.

Furthermore, I have noticed that Golden has been inconsistent in his statements. He has made some statements that don't quite add up, and when confronted with these discrepancies, he has been evasive and defensive.

Based on all of these factors, I strongly believe that Golden is Mafia. I urge the Town to take my suspicions seriously and to carefully consider the evidence that I have presented. We cannot afford to let a Mafia member slip through our grasp, and we need to work together to identify and eliminate the threat. Thank you for your attention.

This case is pretty weak/D1-standard and only looks bigger than it is because 90% of the post is big words fluff to give an appearance of grandiosity

Not that the case itself isn’t something to look into, but the method of communicating it has a certain level of pompousness in it that may push people away from the read, which I almost-wonder is intentional. The reason I say that is just imagine a PC/Golden W/W scenario (regardless of how likely such a pairing is), you make a case on your scumbuddy but then you write the case in such a way where people don’t pay attention, so if your scimbuddy ever gets chopped later you can point to that post and say that you were onto them and gain towncred, while providing an empty case that nobody will pick up, thus letting you have your cake and eat it too because your scumbuddy isn’t actually going to be pushed

Imagine taking a copy paste from chatgpt seriously. must be a wolf

ok lol im pocketed by golden for real by now

please show your working

i'm being townread too much

Alison - I think you are town for your progression (690) on le petit (709). Alison claims KP. People have said Alison is wolfy, I don't get it.

Creature - I have no clue, somewhere between town and wolf meta.

Dennis - Seems like the type of person to get a heavy wagon on them. I'm neutral here.

DrWigly - I don't have a good reason to think Wigly is town here, but I feel like Wigly is town here off "seeming curious" I guess... somewhat.

Dyslexicon - 3rd party moment.

EnderWiggin - 3rd party moment.

falcon45ca - I have no clue, somewhere between town and wolf meta.

-Wow my write ups are really writing themselves arent they-

Golden - Never played with you, but I like your posts, they seem to be in obviously town territory. I'm lazy but ima just point to things 1200, (826 (combined with townreading Alison)), also not citing specific things, but I like Golden's confidence on their Kate townread (I haven't read Kate yet).

Guillotine - Feels like town!Guillo this game, wasn't sure, but with their recent material, I am pretty sure about this. Solving also feels independent like it usually feels with them.

hollowkatt - I think ur kinda wolfy this game HK NGL.

Yeah I had a moment when Ender started pushing me that I thought he was 3p and thought I was 3p and he has to kill 1 wolf 1 town 1 3p. So it would make sense if he thought he caught me embracing and enjoying the 3p role I had been given (From his pov) he would push me hard to get me over then say "oops not a wolf, but at least a 3p" after he gets me, then hit a town and a wolf in either order hard part done.

You have also been reading up now and have no opinion on me?

@Cape90 What's Alison's progression on my 0 post slot (at the time)?

oh you literally haven't spoken

never mind

I was ISOing in alphabetical order, sorry, but I will keep that in mind since it now is just kind of strange to say

@Alison why did you want to shoot le petit for 0 posting?

why ask Alison and not me? Wolf vibes. Alison could be paired with Cape90

[Lilypetal]

i kinda tr sabi after seeing their scum game again

[robyn]

lucy carry me through day 1 there are too many ppl and im scared

your reads list i agree with of the ppl i have reads on though

vote pyxxy