Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[Alison]

You know what annoys me? It's that a bunch of players who have the capacity to be loud, obvious, extremely solvey town have decided this game to not do much. I don't think they're all mafia so some of them are just being lazy town, and I guess real life is a thing and I've done that as town before too but it is annoying that there happen to be so many this game.

Examples include Dizzy, Ender, Seanzie, Sloonei.

[Guillotine]

I daid that list**

[MacDougall]

@Guillotine you said earlier my POE was poopoo. Can you give me detailed reads on all the people in it that aren't you?

I didnt say your PoE was poopoo, i said it was PooPoo because im in it.

well no you literally said the poe was poopoo

[Golden]

For me the town core is:

Mac, Alison, neon, nutella, falcon and maaaaybe Sloonei. Others would probably add Urist.

My ‘I would add them but many would disagree’ list is: Kate, scotty, Lily.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Sabi's list:
Scummy:
Sig
Wilgz
Porscha
Dennis
hk
Guillo

Nutellas:
could vote d1
112 (just 0post null)
dennis (actually do not want to wagon here but fits more on this side of the divide)
ender
hk
iawy
lily (also prob not)
porscha
pyxxy (fence)
svs
sabi
scotty (fence)

Sabi is bold enough to put all town in her list? Yes, HK being the only overlap rule of 3? Possibly just a wolf

Sabi being mad that Nutella has more than 2 wolves in her POE? Likely.

Sabi trying to distance from another wolf? Probable as well.

Why is Porscha green here?

...why IS porscha green there? she should be same colour as HK

[Guillotine]

You know what annoys me? It's that a bunch of players who have the capacity to be loud, obvious, extremely solvey town have decided this game to not do much. I don't think they're all mafia so some of them are just being lazy town, and I guess real life is a thing and I've done that as town before too but it is annoying that there happen to be so many this game.

Examples include Dizzy, Ender, Seanzie, Sloonei.

Additionaly ive been thinking why scum kill the people they have killed on night 1 instead of the legendary names here such as those four, you, macdougal and nutella.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Sabi's list:
Scummy:
Sig
Wilgz
Porscha
Dennis
hk
Guillo

Nutellas:
could vote d1
112 (just 0post null)
dennis (actually do not want to wagon here but fits more on this side of the divide)
ender
hk
iawy
lily (also prob not)
porscha
pyxxy (fence)
svs
sabi
scotty (fence)

Sabi is bold enough to put all town in her list? Yes, HK being the only overlap rule of 3? Possibly just a wolf

Sabi being mad that Nutella has more than 2 wolves in her POE? Likely.

Sabi trying to distance from another wolf? Probable as well.

Why is Porscha green here?

Rondo is outting himself by forgetting he is supposed to be fake scum reading me :^)

I would love to say it was a reaction test or something like that but it was just a mistake

[MacDougall]

For me the town core is:

Mac, Alison, neon, nutella, falcon and maaaaybe Sloonei. Others would probably add Urist.

My ‘I would add them but many would disagree’ list is: Kate, scotty, Lily.

Falcon and Lily explanations welcome

[Guillotine]

@Guillotine you said earlier my POE was poopoo. Can you give me detailed reads on all the people in it that aren't you?

I didnt say your PoE was poopoo, i said it was PooPoo because im in it.

well no you literally said the poe was poopoo

Nomi daid that list was poopoo and it is poopoo as long im in it.

[Party Crasher]

Sabi's list:
Scummy:
Sig
Wilgz
Porscha
Dennis
hk
Guillo

Nutellas:
could vote d1
112 (just 0post null)
dennis (actually do not want to wagon here but fits more on this side of the divide)
ender
hk
iawy
lily (also prob not)
porscha
pyxxy (fence)
svs
sabi
scotty (fence)

Sabi is bold enough to put all town in her list? Yes, HK being the only overlap rule of 3? Possibly just a wolf

Sabi being mad that Nutella has more than 2 wolves in her POE? Likely.

Sabi trying to distance from another wolf? Probable as well.

Why is Porscha green here?

...why IS porscha green there? she should be same colour as HK

lmao did rondo slip tmi that porscha is town?

[Golden]

There is def a wolf in Mac, Alison, Golden, Neon dynamic.

Is there a specific reason, something you've noted and can point to, or is it gut feels?

It all starts with Golden magically townreading Mac enough to trust his PoE, which lead to trust Alison for getting me out of PoE even though Golden does not trust me themselves.
He said he townread Mac, Allison and Neon but the first two Golden could not demonstrate why.

For fucks sake you went back and read the pages o told you to and you’re STILL saying I ‘could not demonstrate why’.

This is nonsense shittake.

[Guillotine]

I hate my ipad, makes me look like an idiot who cant type for shit

[MacDougall]

You know what annoys me? It's that a bunch of players who have the capacity to be loud, obvious, extremely solvey town have decided this game to not do much. I don't think they're all mafia so some of them are just being lazy town, and I guess real life is a thing and I've done that as town before too but it is annoying that there happen to be so many this game.

Examples include Dizzy, Ender, Seanzie, Sloonei.

Additionaly ive been thinking why scum kill the people they have killed on night 1 instead of the legendary names here such as those four, you, macdougal and nutella.

Rask appears to be the mafia NK and hounded Sabi hard. Also had Marmot/Sabi as w/w. Also I played d1 very average to bad.

[Golden]

I literally told you why I town read them the FIRST TIME YOU ASKED

[Golden]

I hate my ipad, makes me look like an idiot who cant type for shit

Meh don’t worry, I’m dyslexic no one should be judged for that stuff.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Sabi's list:
Scummy:
Sig
Wilgz
Porscha
Dennis
hk
Guillo

Nutellas:
could vote d1
112 (just 0post null)
dennis (actually do not want to wagon here but fits more on this side of the divide)
ender
hk
iawy
lily (also prob not)
porscha
pyxxy (fence)
svs
sabi
scotty (fence)

Sabi is bold enough to put all town in her list? Yes, HK being the only overlap rule of 3? Possibly just a wolf

Sabi being mad that Nutella has more than 2 wolves in her POE? Likely.

Sabi trying to distance from another wolf? Probable as well.

Why is Porscha green here?

...why IS porscha green there? she should be same colour as HK

lmao did rondo slip tmi that porscha is town?

kill me and find out

Spoiler: show

no

[MacDougall]

Ok guillo semantics aside please make reads on my POE

[Guillotine]

There is def a wolf in Mac, Alison, Golden, Neon dynamic.

Is there a specific reason, something you've noted and can point to, or is it gut feels?

It all starts with Golden magically townreading Mac enough to trust his PoE, which lead to trust Alison for getting me out of PoE even though Golden does not trust me themselves.
He said he townread Mac, Allison and Neon but the first two Golden could not demonstrate why.

For fucks sake you went back and read the pages o told you to and you’re STILL saying I ‘could not demonstrate why’.

This is nonsense shittake.

Nowhere in those pages you display progression on those reads. From page 110-112 you were just ego stroking them and giving them a bath with roses, perfumes and warm sea salt water.

[Party Crasher]

@Guillotine you said earlier my POE was poopoo. Can you give me detailed reads on all the people in it that aren't you?

I didnt say your PoE was poopoo, i said it was PooPoo because im in it.

well no you literally said the poe was poopoo

Nomi daid that list was poopoo and it is poopoo as long im in it.

party crasher, macdougall and guillotine competing on who makes the most brilliant insightful content

[Golden]

Many

Ok so you townread Mac right?

At the moment

Why at the moment? because this implies not certainty.

I was wolf-reading him day 1

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

Here, right at the start, I literally said ‘the convo on pages 110-112 massively shifted the gamestate in the towns favour and that convo convinced me mac and Alison are town.

[Guillotine]

Ok guillo semantics aside please make reads on my POE

To have reads i should have read the game, which i have not. No way im reading all f that.

So no reads on any of them, in the very few ive read they left no impression.

[Guillotine]

Ok so you townread Mac right?

At the moment

Why at the moment? because this implies not certainty.

I was wolf-reading him day 1

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

Here, right at the start, I literally said ‘the convo on pages 110-112 massively shifted the gamestate in the towns favour and that convo convinced me mac and Alison are town.

But we got no flips how do you figure it has shifted in town's favor?

[MacDougall]

@Guillotine you said earlier my POE was poopoo. Can you give me detailed reads on all the people in it that aren't you?

I didnt say your PoE was poopoo, i said it was PooPoo because im in it.

well no you literally said the poe was poopoo

Nomi daid that list was poopoo and it is poopoo as long im in it.

party crasher, macdougall and guillotine competing on who makes the most brilliant insightful content

Why am I in this meme?

[Golden]

There is def a wolf in Mac, Alison, Golden, Neon dynamic.

Is there a specific reason, something you've noted and can point to, or is it gut feels?

It all starts with Golden magically townreading Mac enough to trust his PoE, which lead to trust Alison for getting me out of PoE even though Golden does not trust me themselves.
He said he townread Mac, Allison and Neon but the first two Golden could not demonstrate why.

For fucks sake you went back and read the pages o told you to and you’re STILL saying I ‘could not demonstrate why’.

This is nonsense shittake.

Nowhere in those pages you display progression on those reads. From page 110-112 you were just ego stroking them and giving them a bath with roses, perfumes and warm sea salt water.

No mate, we were just towning together. End of.

Anyway, enough going around in circles. You’ll know for next time.

[Seanzie]

I think PC role revealed and is town.

probably dizzy town?

we didnt role reveal, mafia chat probably has a list of all claims. missing a claim sure can happen for maf. but thinking a non-claimed person claimed - probably a town derp who doesnt have access to a list of claims thats worked on by 8 or so ppl

*checks list of claims* Oh never mind.

Actually, I'm confused now. I think I know your role, but maybe I'm wrong. Doesn't matter at this point in time.

huh

Wasn’t literally the first post in the game a PC roleclaim?

That is a recurring champs joke.

[Guillotine]

There is def a wolf in Mac, Alison, Golden, Neon dynamic.

Is there a specific reason, something you've noted and can point to, or is it gut feels?

It all starts with Golden magically townreading Mac enough to trust his PoE, which lead to trust Alison for getting me out of PoE even though Golden does not trust me themselves.
He said he townread Mac, Allison and Neon but the first two Golden could not demonstrate why.

For fucks sake you went back and read the pages o told you to and you’re STILL saying I ‘could not demonstrate why’.

This is nonsense shittake.

Nowhere in those pages you display progression on those reads. From page 110-112 you were just ego stroking them and giving them a bath with roses, perfumes and warm sea salt water.

No mate, we were just towning together. End of.

Anyway, enough going around in circles. You’ll know for next time.

Vote stays. You will also learn i can be really stubborn.

[Golden]

At the moment

Why at the moment? because this implies not certainty.

I was wolf-reading him day 1

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

Here, right at the start, I literally said ‘the convo on pages 110-112 massively shifted the gamestate in the towns favour and that convo convinced me mac and Alison are town.

But we got no flips how do you figure it has shifted in town's favor?

I don’t need flips. There’s wolves in that PoE.

[MacDougall]

At the moment

Why at the moment? because this implies not certainty.

I was wolf-reading him day 1

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

Here, right at the start, I literally said ‘the convo on pages 110-112 massively shifted the gamestate in the towns favour and that convo convinced me mac and Alison are town.

But we got no flips how do you figure it has shifted in town's favor?

Because until I did it the game was being played generally without direction, with little attempt to analyse and instead just hurling out hot takes and gut reads with no extrapolation. It was an effort to improve the focus of the town, which Alison and Golden heavily contributed to and assisted with. Town chances improve when the general thread direction improves.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I have to tell my kids to go get their own drinks of water because I am not their slave and I'm sure as heck not yours. I have eight direct reports, three children under 6, that's quite enough people who need my attention every day... I'm just not going to give you (or anyone else) what they want.

If you don't like it, tough.

This is the hard part about getting used to me. I don't play fetch.

Can I get a drink of water? PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE

[MacDougall]

I think PC role revealed and is town.

probably dizzy town?

we didnt role reveal, mafia chat probably has a list of all claims. missing a claim sure can happen for maf. but thinking a non-claimed person claimed - probably a town derp who doesnt have access to a list of claims thats worked on by 8 or so ppl

*checks list of claims* Oh never mind.

Actually, I'm confused now. I think I know your role, but maybe I'm wrong. Doesn't matter at this point in time.

huh

Wasn’t literally the first post in the game a PC roleclaim?

That is a recurring champs joke.

Explain why you've been playing the way that you have please?

@Creature is there going to be any follow up to our previous conversation?

[Dyslexicon]

I'm about caught up, but I probably swept over a lot.

Here's my immediate PoE:
Marmot
SVS
Rondo
Guillo
112
Radish

Somewhat sorted. I could add Sloonei, but I actually liked some of his chime ins. I also think he's not putting himself in a good position if he's mafia, and I think that matters.

I'm not clear on Ender. Don't think he's teamed with Rondo. And I'm not actively suspecting. Clearing of Wilgy is probably good.

I think Alison has more towny things than wolfy things. Mainly just a solving mindset. I disagree with her take on Scotty's shot, I think it's very likely the shot was just silent because of the Lucy shot.

Golden also has more towny than wolfy things. Just his drive, I think.

There's people I have somewhat unsorted, but not too worried about, or other people have town read them, like Sig and Falcon.

Don't know if controversial or not, but I think Porscha, Urist and PC are also town. Porscha because of Sabi spew, and also her posts are towny. Urist, cause I just think so and he gets me, and he's my buddy. And PC for raisins that may or may not be real. I'll listen to Golden and SVS on Kate as town.

---

For those who are displeased with my involvement, drive or contribution to town, it's unfortunate that you feel that way. I'm not displeased. The start of day time makes it so that I'm asleep and then at work for the beginning of any days. I happen to live in Europe and have a demanding full time job. Thank you for your understanding.

[MacDougall]

I like your summary and agree with all of it.

[RondoDimBuckle]

@Golden Can you get me a glass of water?

oh damn, wasnt even close to first one to make this joke

[MacDougall]

Dyslexicon is now in my towncore.

[Golden]

I have to tell my kids to go get their own drinks of water because I am not their slave and I'm sure as heck not yours. I have eight direct reports, three children under 6, that's quite enough people who need my attention every day... I'm just not going to give you (or anyone else) what they want.

If you don't like it, tough.

This is the hard part about getting used to me. I don't play fetch.

Can I get a drink of water? PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE

Only if you shoot narmot. You have to earn it.

[Golden]

@Golden Can you get me a glass of water?

oh damn, wasnt even close to first one to make this joke

I’m sorry

[RondoDimBuckle]

Yes. I was leaning Ender town for a bit now I am back to him being lost wolf.

Why lost wolf, specifically?

He isnt being towny but he doesnt have an agenda yet.

[Dyslexicon]

I think Marmot 1-posting this day phase is very bad. Last game I played it was pretty much Marmot going through the motions on D1 and then just dropping off, and this feels much the same. Plus, looking through his ISO many of his takes are pretty hedgy. In hindsight, I probably gave him too much credit D1 for the second game in a row.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

Dyslexicon is now in my towncore.

I love to be loved! <3

[Creature]

Why at the moment? because this implies not certainty.

I was wolf-reading him day 1

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

Here, right at the start, I literally said ‘the convo on pages 110-112 massively shifted the gamestate in the towns favour and that convo convinced me mac and Alison are town.

But we got no flips how do you figure it has shifted in town's favor?

I don’t need flips. There’s wolves in that PoE.

[nutella]

Dyslexicon is now in my towncore.

pog lol

[Creature]

I think PC role revealed and is town.

probably dizzy town?

we didnt role reveal, mafia chat probably has a list of all claims. missing a claim sure can happen for maf. but thinking a non-claimed person claimed - probably a town derp who doesnt have access to a list of claims thats worked on by 8 or so ppl

*checks list of claims* Oh never mind.

Actually, I'm confused now. I think I know your role, but maybe I'm wrong. Doesn't matter at this point in time.

huh

Wasn’t literally the first post in the game a PC roleclaim?

That is a recurring champs joke.

Explain why you've been playing the way that you have please?

@Creature is there going to be any follow up to our previous conversation?

What conversation?

[nutella]

idk if i 100% trust dizzy but yeah i do like that post

[Dyslexicon]

I agree with whoever said SVS was very null, which is actually wolfy. That's pretty much how I feel. I haven't played with SVS before, but I know she's a good player. And I kind of expect her to make more of a mark if town? I don't know if that is a reasonable expectation, maybe others with experience can comment.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Guillo's read is bogus tho.

People who know Guillo better than me read town. I, not knowing Guillo at all, can't form a read based on knowledge, and I just see the behaviour as wolfy on the facts.

Michelle has asked me to give Guillo more time. Guillo has expressed disengagement. Do you know Guillo much? Give me your takes on meta.

Yes I am pretty familiar with Guillo and am not often wrong on him but being forced to read him in this context is different to how I am usually able to get a read on him. I just think that his tunneling me is a tactic he's using to try to keep me in check honestly. And I also thought the interaction between him and Rondo was fucking strange.

What about my unteraction with Rondo is strange? I keep forgetting he exists

Who is this? Are they in the game?

[Dyslexicon]

Whoever said Falcon was town, can they elaborate? I don't know how to read Falcon at all, and I frequently forget he is playing. No shade.

[Dyslexicon]

idk if i 100% trust dizzy but yeah i do like that post

As long as you love me, it's all good bb

[nutella]

I think Marmot 1-posting this day phase is very bad. Last game I played it was pretty much Marmot going through the motions on D1 and then just dropping off, and this feels much the same. Plus, looking through his ISO many of his takes are pretty hedgy. In hindsight, I probably gave him too much credit D1 for the second game in a row.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

yeah i am Worried

[nutella]

Tbh I keep forgetting falcon is in the game. Maybe a similar drop-off concern there where I thought he had enough towny moments d1 but isn't keeping it up

[RondoDimBuckle]

Guillo's read is bogus tho.

People who know Guillo better than me read town. I, not knowing Guillo at all, can't form a read based on knowledge, and I just see the behaviour as wolfy on the facts.

Michelle has asked me to give Guillo more time. Guillo has expressed disengagement. Do you know Guillo much? Give me your takes on meta.

Yes I am pretty familiar with Guillo and am not often wrong on him but being forced to read him in this context is different to how I am usually able to get a read on him. I just think that his tunneling me is a tactic he's using to try to keep me in check honestly. And I also thought the interaction between him and Rondo was fucking strange.

What about my unteraction with Rondo is strange? I keep forgetting he exists

well yeah the fact you belaboured that you forget he exists like it's relevant in this game is strange... I feel like you're almost trying to spew him your wolf teammate

yeah I was going to quote the post but I couldnt find it in his iso so I settled for forgetting about him in return