Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[Michelle]

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

[Party Crasher]

Hewwo

[RondoDimBuckle]

Marmot
master radishes
112
S~V~S

I think HK is town on ISO. I'll defer to Alison on Guillo. I'm taking sig out because of my personal read there.

Radishes iso is bad. All four of these are wolfy.

I wish Sabi's ISO wasn't broken so I could fucking read whether any of them are spewed town lol.

Sabi's ISO is not broken. Anyone knows that Michelle is lock clear from her push in Sabi and im unaligned with Sabi for how i put Sabi on tje spot for offering a truce to Michelle, when truces are uncharacteristic of Sabi.

Because I supplied the link to the mod to fix it. No actual proof but get that out of here

[Michelle]

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Imagine dying d1 lmao
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112
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Voters: nutella
Alison
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Creature
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DrWilgy
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Dyslexicon
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EnderWiggin
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falcon45ca
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Golden
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Voters: Guillotine
Guillotine
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hollowkatt
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Inawordyes
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Voters: Kate
Kate
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Voters: Creature
Lilypetal
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MacDougall
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Voters: RondoDimBuckle, Inawordyes
Marmot
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24%
Voters: Dyslexicon, MacDougall, Golden, Scotty, Party Crasher, Sloonei, Michelle, Alison
master radishes
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9%
Voters: falcon45ca, 112, Urist
Michelle
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Neon
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Nutella
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Voters: Seanzie
Party Crasher
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Porscha
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RondoDimBuckle
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Voters: EnderWiggin
S~V~S
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Voters: sig, Neon
Scotty
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Voters: hollowkatt
Seanzie
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sig
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Voters: DrWilgy
Sloonei
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Voters: None
Urist
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Sleep
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Host/mod/spec/dead etc
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32%
Voters: Dennis, JaggedJimmyJay, Spacedaisy, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, pyxxy, Lime Coke, sabie12, Syn, Sabiplz, lucy, Le petit poussin
Total votes: 34

[Dyslexicon]

Yes. I was leaning Ender town for a bit now I am back to him being lost wolf.

Why lost wolf, specifically?

He isnt being towny but he doesnt have an agenda yet.

That makes no sense to me, but thank you for answering.

[EnderWiggin]

Yes. I was leaning Ender town for a bit now I am back to him being lost wolf.

Why lost wolf, specifically?

Because Rondo is lost wolf who has been signalling all game

[Dyslexicon]

@Seanzie If you have more shots, please don't shoot Nut. I think this is a time to actually listen more to consensus. I know it's not your thing, but maybe it could be fun to try out, who knows.

[Dyslexicon]

Yes. I was leaning Ender town for a bit now I am back to him being lost wolf.

Why lost wolf, specifically?

Because Rondo is lost wolf who has been signalling all game

Yeah, I was thinking that too.

[Party Crasher]

Marmot
master radishes
112
S~V~S

I think HK is town on ISO. I'll defer to Alison on Guillo. I'm taking sig out because of my personal read there.

Radishes iso is bad. All four of these are wolfy.

I wish Sabi's ISO wasn't broken so I could fucking read whether any of them are spewed town lol.

Sabi's ISO is not broken. Anyone knows that Michelle is lock clear from her push in Sabi and im unaligned with Sabi for how i put Sabi on tje spot for offering a truce to Michelle, when truces are uncharacteristic of Sabi.

Because I supplied the link to the mod to fix it. No actual proof but get that out of here

this is an odd way to take this post.

[RondoDimBuckle]

There is def a wolf in Mac, Alison, Golden, Neon dynamic.

why not include me if you dont know who I am?

[Party Crasher]

Yes. I was leaning Ender town for a bit now I am back to him being lost wolf.

Why lost wolf, specifically?

Because Rondo is lost wolf who has been signalling all game

Yeah, I was thinking that too.

I don't see this from their ISO but I don't think you're wrong either.

[RondoDimBuckle]

@Alison you are the one protecting Guillo so can you please make it your job to control the impact hes having on the threadstate?

This is funny. The only way to tame me is by killing my wim with personal attacks. Nothing else can control me. The only other option is death.

Why arent you pushing me for an elimination when you have had nothing but shade on regards of me?

Scared?

I do not find this a towny post. Perhaps people who know guillo more can elaborate

[Party Crasher]

There is def a wolf in Mac, Alison, Golden, Neon dynamic.

why not include me if you dont know who I am?

ok this is too funny given that previous post (and weird otherwise tbh)

[Party Crasher]

@Alison you are the one protecting Guillo so can you please make it your job to control the impact hes having on the threadstate?

This is funny. The only way to tame me is by killing my wim with personal attacks. Nothing else can control me. The only other option is death.

Why arent you pushing me for an elimination when you have had nothing but shade on regards of me?

Scared?

I do not find this a towny post. Perhaps people who know guillo more can elaborate

First, do you think it's mafia-indicative or just not towny

Second, this is pretty common from what I remember

[falcon45ca]

Tbh I keep forgetting falcon is in the game. Maybe a similar drop-off concern there where I thought he had enough towny moments d1 but isn't keeping it up

I'm here, ask me questions.

[Golden]

I was wolf-reading him day 1

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

Here, right at the start, I literally said ‘the convo on pages 110-112 massively shifted the gamestate in the towns favour and that convo convinced me mac and Alison are town.

But we got no flips how do you figure it has shifted in town's favor?

I don’t need flips. There’s wolves in that PoE.

So you’re putting your foot down that 112, MR. SVS, Marmot is wolfless?

[Dyslexicon]

You know what annoys me? It's that a bunch of players who have the capacity to be loud, obvious, extremely solvey town have decided this game to not do much. I don't think they're all mafia so some of them are just being lazy town, and I guess real life is a thing and I've done that as town before too but it is annoying that there happen to be so many this game.

Examples include Dizzy, Ender, Seanzie, Sloonei.

I don't think this is fully fair. I have literally used my entire free time this night reading up on 40 pages of mafia. I think I'm contributing to a satisfactory degree. It's unfortunate that phase changes happens right when I've just fallen asleep, which means I will fall way behind and play catchup. Not that it's anyone's fault, also not mine.

You can un-ironically lock town me because I'm incapable of mid-posting as mafia.

[Golden]

I agree with whoever said SVS was very null, which is actually wolfy. That's pretty much how I feel. I haven't played with SVS before, but I know she's a good player. And I kind of expect her to make more of a mark if town? I don't know if that is a reasonable expectation, maybe others with experience can comment.

Yeah, null svs is worrisome svs

[RondoDimBuckle]

Ok looks like nothing will really happen at all today.

[VOTE: Sloonie ] aubergine

[Seanzie]

I think PC role revealed and is town.

probably dizzy town?

we didnt role reveal, mafia chat probably has a list of all claims. missing a claim sure can happen for maf. but thinking a non-claimed person claimed - probably a town derp who doesnt have access to a list of claims thats worked on by 8 or so ppl

*checks list of claims* Oh never mind.

Actually, I'm confused now. I think I know your role, but maybe I'm wrong. Doesn't matter at this point in time.

huh

Wasn’t literally the first post in the game a PC roleclaim?

That is a recurring champs joke.

Explain why you've been playing the way that you have please?

@Creature is there going to be any follow up to our previous conversation?

How have I been playing?

[Golden]

SVS should be prompting strong emotions in people when town. She’d usually be taking at least some suss and not care what people think of her much. I’m not seeing that here. But she’s a very clever wolf too.

[nutella]

Tbh I keep forgetting falcon is in the game. Maybe a similar drop-off concern there where I thought he had enough towny moments d1 but isn't keeping it up

I'm here, ask me questions.

Have you ever been up in a plane before?

[Dyslexicon]

I think the game state right now feels good. Either the consensus PoE is good or good enough, or we're horribly fucked, probably. If it's good, doesn't mean we shouldn't still work on it and consider and re-consider etc. If we're fucked, I guess we'll find out.

If anyone has any questions or want to hear more about my thoughts or process, please mention me for a conversation. I'm all about trying to make my process as clear as possible.

[Creature]

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

Here, right at the start, I literally said ‘the convo on pages 110-112 massively shifted the gamestate in the towns favour and that convo convinced me mac and Alison are town.

But we got no flips how do you figure it has shifted in town's favor?

I don’t need flips. There’s wolves in that PoE.

So you’re putting your foot down that 112, MR. SVS, Marmot is wolfless?

idk honestly. Wolves in the POE mean nothing until we've flipped them.

[falcon45ca]

Tbh I keep forgetting falcon is in the game. Maybe a similar drop-off concern there where I thought he had enough towny moments d1 but isn't keeping it up

I'm here, ask me questions.

Have you ever been up in a plane before?

Oh yeah, tho I wouldn't describe myself as a frequent flyer

[nutella]

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

[Dyslexicon]

@S~V~S How do you feel about being in the consensus PoE right now? Do you think that's fair or no? What does your own PoE look like at this moment?

[falcon45ca]

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

I feel he's been present, and I think his engagement has been...safe

[RondoDimBuckle]

So, little bit of meta for people.

Rondo has compulsive balls-to-walls-itis as wolf.

When he gets strong heat his instinctual reaction is to do something outlandish. Aiming for the "But why would Rondo do that as wolf?"

Now unless I'm suddenly developing my own mental disorder, I believe today's progression goes:

People sus Rondo
Rondo starts trying to burn Mac alive

Which feels a looooot like the meta I know of Rondo.

Are you saying it feels like the wolf Rondo or town Rondo?

I too like to vote people in their town meta.

lol

[Party Crasher]

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

Seanzie is one of the players in Game of Champions 2022. He has made 153 posts in this thread, which all contain many words, in a tone, and he has some reads.

[MacDougall]

I feel like Seanzie can't wolf and is floundering in a way that heavily implies he's not his town self.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Unrelated to this post, its just something I thought of when I saw Dyslexicons profile picture. Has Ender done anything back and forth with Dys? Point against if not because by now they should have sorted each other out and I have seen nothing and I have read the whole game bar catching up today

Yeah, I haven't actually sorted Ender. But some of the things he posts makes me feel sane and hopeful.

So you two are paired? Got it

[Party Crasher]

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

Seanzie is one of the players in Game of Champions 2022. He has made 153 posts in this thread, which all contain many words, in a tone, and he has some reads.

source?

[Dyslexicon]

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

He has a wonderful beard.

Idk, I kind of think he's town. I've been right on him in about every game we've played, but I also have never actually played a game where he was mafia. I don't think him being off-beat is wolfy for him.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Unrelated to this post, its just something I thought of when I saw Dyslexicons profile picture. Has Ender done anything back and forth with Dys? Point against if not because by now they should have sorted each other out and I have seen nothing and I have read the whole game bar catching up today

Yeah, I haven't actually sorted Ender. But some of the things he posts makes me feel sane and hopeful.

So you two are paired? Got it

actually I shouldnt say that. Town up for me pls

[MacDougall]

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

Here, right at the start, I literally said ‘the convo on pages 110-112 massively shifted the gamestate in the towns favour and that convo convinced me mac and Alison are town.

But we got no flips how do you figure it has shifted in town's favor?

I don’t need flips. There’s wolves in that PoE.

So you’re putting your foot down that 112, MR. SVS, Marmot is wolfless?

idk honestly. Wolves in the POE mean nothing until we've flipped them.

I don't like the way you are opposing good town process for no valid reason.

[nutella]

I feel like Seanzie can't wolf and is floundering in a way that heavily implies he's not his town self.

Cool lettuce flip him.

[VOTE: Seanzie ] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

So you two are paired? Got it

Yeah, I think we are actually. It's very cute, don't be jelly <3

[Party Crasher]

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

Seanzie is one of the players in Game of Champions 2022. He has made 153 posts in this thread, which all contain many words, in a tone, and he has some reads.

source?

I made it up

[nutella]

Does anyone believe that Seanzie actually strongly wolf read ilario lol.

[MacDougall]

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

He has a wonderful beard.

Idk, I kind of think he's town. I've been right on him in about every game we've played, but I also have never actually played a game where he was mafia. I don't think him being off-beat is wolfy for him.

My expectation is that by now Town Seanzie would have 1 to 2 pet wolfreads he's aggressively pursuing while nobody pays attention which actively discourages him from playing democratically. I don't think Seanzie is trying to solve the game or using his full town process in this game and that makes him lean wolf. Not lock wolf cuz he might just not give a fuck, but I can't townread him for it.

[Golden]

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

Here, right at the start, I literally said ‘the convo on pages 110-112 massively shifted the gamestate in the towns favour and that convo convinced me mac and Alison are town.

But we got no flips how do you figure it has shifted in town's favor?

I don’t need flips. There’s wolves in that PoE.

So you’re putting your foot down that 112, MR. SVS, Marmot is wolfless?

idk honestly. Wolves in the POE mean nothing until we've flipped them.

You want it both ways.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Ok guillo semantics aside please make reads on my POE

gimmy poe? has it changed from yesterday?

[Dyslexicon]

I feel like Seanzie can't wolf and is floundering in a way that heavily implies he's not his town self.

Well, fuck my drag. I don't have strong feelings either way. I thought I did D1, but not anymore really. He actually hasn't hounded me as much as he often does in games tbh.

[MacDougall]

Does anyone believe that Seanzie actually strongly wolf read ilario lol.

Ilario does track as the sort of out of sight player Seanzie would transfix on suspecting in fairness.

[MacDougall]

Ok guillo semantics aside please make reads on my POE

gimmy poe? has it changed from yesterday?

Uh I dunno when you mean but right now it'd be like.

Seanzie
Marmot
SVS
112
MR
sig

I'm less inclined to push 112 and MR than the other four.

[MacDougall]

I also think SVS and Marmot and probably unpaired as are MR and 112. Sig being mafia would clear at minimum Wilgy.

[Dyslexicon]

Does anyone believe that Seanzie actually strongly wolf read ilario lol.

I believe he would shoot Ilario. Don't quite see why he would feel compelled to claim the kill as mafia.

My expectation is that by now Town Seanzie would have 1 to 2 pet wolfreads he's aggressively pursuing while nobody pays attention which actively discourages him from playing democratically. I don't think Seanzie is trying to solve the game or using his full town process in this game and that makes him lean wolf. Not lock wolf cuz he might just not give a fuck, but I can't townread him for it.

I mean, the Nut wolf read is such a read. But I can see him being more back seat than many other games I've played with him. And as I said, never actually seen him as mafia.

[Party Crasher]

Does anyone believe that Seanzie actually strongly wolf read ilario lol.

Oh Seanzie was the player posting a bunch of letters day 1. Their ISO is kind of underwhelming and he refuses to make any post longer than one sentence but I don't think he's a wolf.

I haven't read Ilario so I can't help you there but also I doubt he'd claim a shot if it was outing. *Oh Ilario flipped 3p hmm I think it's definitely possible and with nutella wolf it seems they're just being quirky.

[Golden]

I also think SVS and Marmot and probably unpaired as are MR and 112. Sig being mafia would clear at minimum Wilgy.

This is fair. And marmot has started to be a runaway. SBSs approach to being in the PoE was to deflect onto another PoE, which has town and wolf interpretations.