Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[Dyslexicon]

I don't think Sig is mafia.

[Party Crasher]

I'm testing out a new theory for reading sig whereby I read him based on how isolated and lonely he seems compared to the rest of the thread. Under that theory he is town this game.

Okay the next four I'd like to talk to ppl about are this four. Anyone wanna go the hard vouch?

hollowkatt
Marmot
master radishes
sig

I wouldn't bet my house on sig being town, but I'd put him as the least likely person I'd vote in these 4 since I felt he seemed lonely in a townie way D1. In addition he is another player that I habitually scumread as either alignment so the fact that I haven't felt a desire to murder him here means he is playing townier than usual.

No points of townieness for the rest.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

to explain again, i think sig is a lost wolf vig who doesnt know the main pack wolves. i think the main pack wolves knew the identity of the lost wolves (its 1 of the 2 lost wolf variants)

i think alison was softing at him

it also gives an explanation for the missing pyxxy kill. alison claimed the pyxxy shot. she didnt shoot him though. another person, soup wolf, currently still alive, shot pyxxy n1

sig is a claimed vig who didnt shoot n1. he gave no explanation for why he didnt shoot n1, he didnt elaborate on his role or his action n1

the counterargument to that is that alison and sig arent in a wolf chat together, so they couldnt communicate that. the counter-counter argument to that is that the main pack wolves could have been alerted as to whom did sig (if he is a lost wolf vig) shoots every night as part of their roles

-tutuu

@Dyslexicon this was my theory

-t 15/100

[EnderWiggin]

I have slight TRs on MR and Sabi, but aside from that, I don't feel good about the rest of the IAWY wagon.

@Sabiplz @Master Radishes why are you voting IAWY rn?

Inawordyes
5
12%
Voters: Scotty, Creature, Master Radishes, Party Crasher, Sabiplz

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[Dyslexicon]

@Dyslexicon this was my theory

-t 15/100

Oh. That is possible. I don't really know how to find a lost wolf who doesn't know their teammates. But I do agree that Sig's claim stands out

Marmot suggested Pyxxy was shot by Creature btw, so that's probably it

[Golden]

I’m 100% onboard to take out sloonie today if the rest of town agrees.

I think worst case he’s third party best case he’s mafia.

@Golden 2 thing

1. Why are you still alive
2. Thoughts on sloonie, Kate, and SVS

1) don’t ask me, ask the wolves. Having said that Mac was playing way better than me

2) town, town, not town but maybe not soup.

[Party Crasher]

If wolves were about to win thru soup kill, i dont think they kill mac as he claimed

There are 2 "good" town kp roles: ender and neon (mac's was more situational)

Keeping neon alive for the second night and ender for the first points to deep wolves imo who think keeping town kp alive is ever good for mafia. Which points to an old school player type of mindset imo. If ur a zoomer u should know that u always kill town kp. Imo. So even more reason to tinfoil sig and golden. Imo

-t 16/100

[Dyslexicon]

We're an overwhelming amount of town in thread right now. So as long as we keep actively solving and keep the momentum up, we're going to flush out scum. BOX THEM IN. There might be a nasty surprise mechanic related to the soup name, so sooner rather than later.

Anyway, I should be sleeping. Good night ^^

[DrWilgy]

The poll should be between Guillotine, Golden, Scotty and SVS. I want no exceptions.

What about sloonei?

I don't think they've had as much discourse weight.

[Party Crasher]

The poll should be between Guillotine, Golden, Scotty and SVS. I want no exceptions.

SVS offered to die to mac (and went and voted him) and she buried marmot

-t 17/100

[Dyslexicon]

Whoever suggested SVS could be 3p, I kind of agree. She doesn't seem to have a huge impact and has been fairly quiet. I think SVS and Sloonei both occupies a space that feels possibly 3p.

PC and Sig are also candidates for 3p, given their claims. PC feels town to me though.

[Dyslexicon]

The poll should be between Guillotine, Golden, Scotty and SVS. I want no exceptions.

SVS offered to die to mac (and went and voted him) and she buried marmot

-t 17/100

I forgot about that. Maybe not 3p then

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I shot 112

*sigh*

Shoulda shot guillo lol

Who says Guillo was an option?

[EnderWiggin]

I think S~V~S is hard unpaired from soup mafia.

But yeah they could be 3p.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Sig being a normal vig that specifically can shoot on n2 only doesnt track with the design of the other roles imo. It sticks out like a sore thumb

I want rondo and sloonei dead

I townread guillo

Im tinfoiling sig, golden and porscha (due to her defense of rondo which bewilds me)

I townread michelle and urist based off tone even though theyve done nothing to deserve townreads

I think thats the poe everyone else should be obv town and doesnt need explanation

-t 13/100

PC is now mafia for trying to off me and sloonei

[DrWilgy]

So since my statement on those 4, I've seen arguments against all except Golden.

Neat.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@Neon what is your town to mafia ratio now? 2:1? If you hit another town I am killing you

Lmfao

[Golden]

@Golden whats your opinion on keeping town vigs alive in positions where youre mafia and youre really deep and you know they wont shoot you?

-t 12/100

If I felt I had them pocketed I’d keep them alive. But if there was any doubt I’d take them out. If you’re wondering about my thoughts on the Mac kill, I think it’s thread state based, and if I was bad I simply wouldn’t be baited to vote him at all. And marmot made a massive miscalculation ending on him lol, maybe he was hoping to come in to today using it as evidence he was good.

[Dyslexicon]

112 was not a bad shot, obviously

[Party Crasher]

Sig being a normal vig that specifically can shoot on n2 only doesnt track with the design of the other roles imo. It sticks out like a sore thumb

I want rondo and sloonei dead

I townread guillo

Im tinfoiling sig, golden and porscha (due to her defense of rondo which bewilds me)

I townread michelle and urist based off tone even though theyve done nothing to deserve townreads

I think thats the poe everyone else should be obv town and doesnt need explanation

-t 13/100

PC is now mafia for trying to off me and sloonei

You guys and girls are advocating that we leave this jester alive. Think about your actions. @Porscha

@sig are you a normal plain vig that is restricted to shooting to n2 only and specifically?

[Golden]

I’m also ever so slightly paranoid about golden and Urist

Golden is probably soup mafia sooo you're right to be paranoid there yes

What about his claim though?

what about his claim is specifically believable? It can easily be a lie.

Anything could be a lie, technically. But I think this is something that should be verifiable, no? It's a neighbourhood thing, so players should be there?

Not sure, would be good to get confirmation on this @Golden but I thought he claimed to only be able to use it once.

Nope. I can use it every day.

I’m not alone, but I don’t see why it needs to be verified publicly.

[Party Crasher]

@RondoDimBuckle Dance for me monkey. *Throws peanuts at you*

-t 19/100

[Urist]

I have slight TRs on MR and Sabi, but aside from that, I don't feel good about the rest of the IAWY wagon.

@Sabiplz @Master Radishes why are you voting IAWY rn?

Inawordyes
5
12%
Voters: Scotty, Creature, Master Radishes, Party Crasher, Sabiplz

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Hilarious

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

What difference does it make? You could be shot

A) I wont be
B) The fallout without me being resolved is better than with me being resolved but the more you bring attention to me the less it matters

Oh no.

I'm pushing the self claimed self-resolving question who said "Just wait til tomorrow" and is now saying "Just wait a lil more"

I'm voting Urist

If Urist flips anything but town I'm slaughtering Rondo next and whoever else they pulled off the block asking for 1 more day.

[RondoDimBuckle]

@RondoDimBuckle Dance for me monkey. *Throws peanuts at you*

-t 19/100

*Dances*

[RondoDimBuckle]

What difference does it make? You could be shot

A) I wont be
B) The fallout without me being resolved is better than with me being resolved but the more you bring attention to me the less it matters

Oh no.

I'm pushing the self claimed self-resolving question who said "Just wait til tomorrow" and is now saying "Just wait a lil more"

I'm voting Urist

If Urist flips anything but town I'm slaughtering Rondo next and whoever else they pulled off the block asking for 1 more day.

lol

[Golden]

So since my statement on those 4, I've seen arguments against all except Golden.

Neat.

Oooo tell me more

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@Golden whats your opinion on keeping town vigs alive in positions where youre mafia and youre really deep and you know they wont shoot you?

-t 12/100

They aren't that deep since I spent most of lay night debating shooting 112 or Golden

And i only chose 112 because of how I was treated after shooting a Creature that wasn't even that towny.

But funny enough I'm being treated just as poorly for shooting into the PoE by people now lol

[Urist]

Neon if any of the mafia were valid targets for you to shoot, they would have killed you by now. Please stop shooting town.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Neon if any of the mafia were valid targets for you to shoot, they would have killed you by now. Please stop shooting town.

Lmfao neither they nor you have any clue what my list is going to be every night

Please don't tell me how to play the game

[Urist]

Neon if any of the mafia were valid targets for you to shoot, they would have killed you by now. Please stop shooting town.

Lmfao neither they nor you have any clue what my list is going to be every night

Please don't tell me how to play the game

Please stop shooting town

[Urist]

Why can't you be more like MacDougall, now there is a good town vigilante.

[Party Crasher]

@Golden whats your opinion on keeping town vigs alive in positions where youre mafia and youre really deep and you know they wont shoot you?

-t 12/100

They aren't that deep since I spent most of lay night debating shooting 112 or Golden

And i only chose 112 because of how I was treated after shooting a Creature that wasn't even that towny.

But funny enough I'm being treated just as poorly for shooting into the PoE by people now lol

Thats a pessimistic outlook imo

People are playing the game. If they say "neon did a bad shot" they mean it as if theyre suspecting you. Only in post game if people say you did bad shots, then you know for sure theyre critiquing you. Until then just relax. 112 was a good shot

Also not everyone critiquing u is town. So just focus on solving, ur doing fine

A more optimistic outlook is to be wary that most people dont know alignments of people, and those who do are liars coz thats their job, so dont take anything personal until the game is over

-t 20/100

[Golden]

@Golden whats your opinion on keeping town vigs alive in positions where youre mafia and youre really deep and you know they wont shoot you?

-t 12/100

They aren't that deep since I spent most of lay night debating shooting 112 or Golden

And i only chose 112 because of how I was treated after shooting a Creature that wasn't even that towny.

But funny enough I'm being treated just as poorly for shooting into the PoE by people now lol

I’m not deep at all. Mac was shielding me but people have come back to tinfoiling me all game long. I am not trusted.

[RondoDimBuckle]

@Golden whats your opinion on keeping town vigs alive in positions where youre mafia and youre really deep and you know they wont shoot you?

-t 12/100

They aren't that deep since I spent most of lay night debating shooting 112 or Golden

And i only chose 112 because of how I was treated after shooting a Creature that wasn't even that towny.

But funny enough I'm being treated just as poorly for shooting into the PoE by people now lol

Im not calling you bad as in the game. I am saying I am getting tinfoil on you. But Mac said you're town so I am going to try and not let it set in

[Party Crasher]

Neon if any of the mafia were valid targets for you to shoot, they would have killed you by now. Please stop shooting town.

Lmfao neither they nor you have any clue what my list is going to be every night

Please don't tell me how to play the game

Please stop shooting town

Unless ur w/w with neon pls read the room temperature better. She wont take it as harmless banter

-t 21/100

[Urist]

Did mafia shoot mac because they thought he'd be confirmed after shooting Scotty?

[Golden]

@Golden whats your opinion on keeping town vigs alive in positions where youre mafia and youre really deep and you know they wont shoot you?

-t 12/100

They aren't that deep since I spent most of lay night debating shooting 112 or Golden

And i only chose 112 because of how I was treated after shooting a Creature that wasn't even that towny.

But funny enough I'm being treated just as poorly for shooting into the PoE by people now lol

Thats a pessimistic outlook imo

People are playing the game. If they say "neon did a bad shot" they mean it as if theyre suspecting you. Only in post game if people say you did bad shots, then you know for sure theyre critiquing you. Until then just relax. 112 was a good shot

Also not everyone critiquing u is town. So just focus on solving, ur doing fine

A more optimistic outlook is to be wary that most people dont know alignments of people, and those who do are liars coz thats their job, so dont take anything personal until the game is over

-t 20/100

Also 112 was a good shot, full stop.

Anyone saying an absentee is a bad shot for town vig to make is trying to stir shit.

[Urist]

Neon if any of the mafia were valid targets for you to shoot, they would have killed you by now. Please stop shooting town.

Lmfao neither they nor you have any clue what my list is going to be every night

Please don't tell me how to play the game

Please stop shooting town

Unless ur w/w with neon pls read the room temperature better. She wont take it as harmless banter

-t 21/100

It wasn't really harmless banter, it's a legitimate request for her to holster because neither creature nor 112 were in my poe.

[Golden]

Did mafia shoot mac because they thought he'd be confirmed after shooting Scotty?

I haven’t been reading the thread. Are people actually pondering that the Mac kill is strange?

[Porscha]

I shot 112

*sigh*

It was a good shoot dont worry id have done the same

@MacDougall great job on shooting marmot. If i was you id have shot scotty there and maybe flipped him town. I told u marmot is one of the best wolves lmao theyre so slippery

Rondo, Guillo, Sloonei need death is my first thought

Im giving myself 100 posts today

-t 1/100

Mildly baffling you're including rondo in the same breath with guillo and sloonei imo

Absurd post

-t 7/100

Explain

U explain first lol

Rondo has been openwolfing non-stop

He lied about being self-resolving / confirming

Hes refusing to explain

Who cares if he was the counter wagon to 2 main pack wolves there 3p and potentially lost wolves

@Dyslexicon

-t 8/100

Can you explain how you perceive him to be open wolfing

[Urist]

Did mafia shoot mac because they thought he'd be confirmed after shooting Scotty?

I haven’t been reading the thread. Are people actually pondering that the Mac kill is strange?

No. However, there are multiple people who have shot mafia at this point. Why aren't they dying?

[Porscha]

Actually, recruiting mafia teammates to a neighbourhood N1 is exactly something I would do tbh

The more mafia flip with no powers the more paranoid I get that they have one big one power left and mafia being able to chat with civs is a big one. Especially since we had a civ lover

Also it’s weird to me that he didn’t bring me into the neighborhood after throwing out the theory I could be mafia.

Who flipped lovers??????????

[Porscha]

Did mafia shoot mac because they thought he'd be confirmed after shooting Scotty?

I haven’t been reading the thread. Are people actually pondering that the Mac kill is strange?

No. However, there are multiple people who have shot mafia at this point. Why aren't they dying?

Wolves get 1 shot per night? If a vig is shooting town who cares if they live when mac had way more thread and analyzing capacity with an additional vig shot that also applied pressure into thread cuz if ppl he wants to vote him dont vote him he will consider that a poor look and apply more pressure. And then also has a gun

As opposed to neon who just has a gun and like ender has pointed out earlier in the game who cares if there is a vig if they just keep shooting other town lmao

[Party Crasher]

Nook said in sign up thread that he anticipates the game to end on D4 or D5

He gave mafia no kp except 2 shots to seanzie

He named them soup mafia

Rondo claimed to self resolve so we leave him alone. Now hes asking to be left alone again without elaboraring

We really shouldnt lol. We are so ahead that we only lose to some dumbass soupkill

Kill rondo and dont throw

-t 22/100

[Porscha]

I’m 100% onboard to take out sloonie today if the rest of town agrees.

I think worst case he’s third party best case he’s mafia.

@Golden 2 thing

1. Why are you still alive
2. Thoughts on sloonie, Kate, and SVS

I was legit SCREAMING for Marmot to get limed.

Kate can you please give me an idea on where you stand with the remaining players

[Porscha]

Nook said in sign up thread that he anticipates the game to end on D4 or D5

He gave mafia no kp except 2 shots to seanzie

He named them soup mafia

Rondo claimed to self resolve so we leave him alone. Now hes asking to be left alone again without elaboraring

We really shouldnt lol. We are so ahead that we only lose to some dumbass soupkill

Kill rondo and dont throw

-t 22/100

Not to be that guy cuz I 100% could have missed stuff but as far as I know most of the remaining players have not revealed shit about their role and even if they did it could be lies. Golden, guillo, and neon all did? I'm not even sold on those being lock town so I dont care if they die.

Do you sincerely believe rondo would be that transparent as a soup maf?

[Porscha]

We should stop claiming yeah the mafia might literally have a soup kill

-t 11/100

Yes I thought this was obvious and well known lmao

[Porscha]

I’m also ever so slightly paranoid about golden and Urist

Golden is probably soup mafia sooo you're right to be paranoid there yes

What about his claim though?

what about his claim is specifically believable? It can easily be a lie.

What part of his claim is specifically unbelievable? It can easily be the truth

[Party Crasher]

Nook said in sign up thread that he anticipates the game to end on D4 or D5

He gave mafia no kp except 2 shots to seanzie

He named them soup mafia

Rondo claimed to self resolve so we leave him alone. Now hes asking to be left alone again without elaboraring

We really shouldnt lol. We are so ahead that we only lose to some dumbass soupkill

Kill rondo and dont throw

-t 22/100

Not to be that guy cuz I 100% could have missed stuff but as far as I know most of the remaining players have not revealed shit about their role and even if they did it could be lies. Golden, guillo, and neon all did? I'm not even sold on those being lock town so I dont care if they die.

Do you sincerely believe rondo would be that transparent as a soup maf?

I dont think hes transparent, since i perceive his town meta to be pretty similar - say random outlandish stuff and be his own solo agent thing

I usually get a really confident townread on him very early on on day 1, like i had last game - cartomancy where all three of us played. I found him pretty early. but this game im getting pinged non stop. He started out this game being pretty tame and normal and logical. That was a major red flag. The lie about being self resolving is abhorrent and he shouldnt be forgiven. He just isnt his normal wild self. I perceive him as trying and failing to replicate his genuine town crack snorting tinfoil galaxy brain posts which I like reading

-t

[Golden]

100% anyone telling neon how to play the game is shifty af.