Kind of really doubt PSV ever flips W here unless both of his partners are just refusing to play the game since they've basically been the top wagon this entire game, tbh. Mostly confident on my reads on Dennis/SPF even if they're faint-ish being that this has been a fairly light game.
why on Dennis and pyxxy?
Dennis I said above where him going "I have no reads" was brutally honest and him questioning my TR on them felt as a good follow-up since wolves generally just take TRs on them and don't really go anywhere with that.
Pyxxy's read was mostly from his response as that feels kind of like a very weird angle of attack for a wolf to take when I voted him. In general his entire thought process on the reasoning behind my vote felt like it had a certain level of depth that a wolf wouldn't.
Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:01 pm[VOTE:
SixStrings] aubergine
is this just another placeholder kind of vote for more content or a real vote
Content vote since Six only had a single post and that was his confirmation.
Current wagons are shit though since I feel like PSV is just a villager and I'm V, so meh.
hmmm fair
why is PSV a villager? did I miss something?
Tone, wolves generally try to appease their wagoners when wagoned this early and PSV kind of just doesn't really care about the votes behind her at all. Main issue I have with them is that I feel like they haven't done much content-wise this match but the thing is that her wagon has kind of felt stale so I don't think this is a hit.
Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:01 pm[VOTE:
SixStrings] aubergine
is this just another placeholder kind of vote for more content or a real vote
Content vote since Six only had a single post and that was his confirmation.
Current wagons are shit though since I feel like PSV is just a villager and I'm V, so meh.
hmmm fair
why is PSV a villager? did I miss something?
Tone, wolves generally try to appease their wagoners when wagoned this early and PSV kind of just doesn't really care about the votes behind her at all. Main issue I have with them is that I feel like they haven't done much content-wise this match but the thing is that her wagon has kind of felt stale so I don't think this is a hit.
hmmmm ok
yeah, I can see that
more convinced by the staleness than them appearing unbothered though
Cause he did this once in a game as town, where he drops in and says just a list, no explanation, and I (maf) pushed a miselim on him
Idk why tf he does it, but it's made me freak out on his slot when he does it and I'm having flashbacks
The list feels kind of pointless as it has tints of busywork since it doesn't really say anything about the game-state at all.
I want actual content from him since we're already beyond the RVS stage of the game.
What do you think of other people who haven't given content yet
Like I have hardly given any content, I totally ignores the D0 arguments (or at least didn't comment), but you seemingly townlean me
I also townlean you. You're looking like your early civ meta.
Kate could technically be a wolf that could be posting, tbh.
Her only content was basically reiterating a townread on Dennis based on meta which is frankly one of the easiest and safest things to do as a wolf, tbh.
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:23 pm
I remember Seanzie was the first to push PSV and I think they were also the first to back off
do you think it could be theatre?
From PSV's reaction I doubt it.
PSV had a fairly strong reaction to Seanzie's early accusation where distancing wolves kind of don't really care about each others' suspicions being that they know that it's only distancing.
Feeling more comfortable with Lemon now being that this make a read->build a world around the read feels exactly like how she was trying to solve in DnD, tbh.
looked through Kate and imo it was mostly NAI fluffiness
there's a bit of progression on Dennis from the "he's okayyyyyy" to a townlean but I haven't seen them talk about other slots
I think I liked Neon talking to herself in thread and being bored - it gave off a restless kind of energy that tends to come from town more (though it's also very easy to fake)
another thing I noted was Neon scumreading SPF and then moving SPF to towncore after SPF retracted a townlean on Neon, which felt like a very drastic change based on one post
Neon/falcon probably not w/w based on how Neon reacted to falcon's townread on Neon
Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:26 pm
Feeling more comfortable with Lemon now being that this make a read->build a world around the read feels exactly like how she was trying to solve in DnD, tbh.
Cause he did this once in a game as town, where he drops in and says just a list, no explanation, and I (maf) pushed a miselim on him
Idk why tf he does it, but it's made me freak out on his slot when he does it and I'm having flashbacks
I kind of want to talk about this
I was in that game too (this is for people who weren't/don't remember)
I thought pyxxy's list and their lists made in the other game felt very different
pyxxy's lists in the other game were more like actual reads lists - ordered and without any comments
the one they posted here just felt like a greeting
what do you mean by "it makes [you] freak out"?
do you townread it?
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 2:00 pm
Lemonfairy - hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i wont get murderous so quickly this time around :3
Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 7:27 pm
@staypositivefriend
Talk to me about your reads outside Seanzie/pyxxy/Dennis/PVS?
i lightly townlean lemonfairy. i like the confrontational tone that she had toward PSV on p#395. i liked the specificity of the way she paired seanzie and PSV together on p#407, cause theories like that are more difficult for wolves to come up with organically, and bcuz it was internally consistent with the concern she voiced about seanzie earlier in the thread
i also liked her seeming to voice concern/suspicion toward pyx on p#417 but then taking it back immediately after on p#419. just feels like i can see the gears turning in her head
to be honest with you, i don't have many reads outside of that that i haven't already spoken about. i've been pinged on a gut level by ted a few times but i haven't been able to verbalize those feelings into an actual read. i don't feel like neon/kate/falcon have alignment told in any meaningful way and i can't even remember any other players that are here
to be honest it feels to me like one of those games where the wolves are primarily in the lower posters/people with zero presence which makes it uniquely hard to find a wolfread that i feel confident about
it also generally just feels like not enough has happened for me to have a strong understanding of the current gamestate
Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 7:27 pm
@staypositivefriend
Talk to me about your reads outside Seanzie/pyxxy/Dennis/PVS?
i lightly townlean lemonfairy. i like the confrontational tone that she had toward PSV on p#395. i liked the specificity of the way she paired seanzie and PSV together on p#407, cause theories like that are more difficult for wolves to come up with organically, and bcuz it was internally consistent with the concern she voiced about seanzie earlier in the thread
i also liked her seeming to voice concern/suspicion toward pyx on p#417 but then taking it back immediately after on p#419. just feels like i can see the gears turning in her head
to be honest with you, i don't have many reads outside of that that i haven't already spoken about. i've been pinged on a gut level by ted a few times but i haven't been able to verbalize those feelings into an actual read. i don't feel like neon/kate/falcon have alignment told in any meaningful way and i can't even remember any other players that are here
Yh, I feel like you/Dennis/Lemon are just villaging this game.
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:41 pm
fwiw i feel like giving reads rn would be a LEAK due to 2 non posters
but i’ll add a wolfy remark of i kinda like where things are headed and have noticed nothing that i was going “huh wat” in my head to
a bit of a thing i spotted was alice stating a rand v read on seanzie and then making a post to spf saying she shouldn’t give him an easy villa pass, gth it feels bad but if i’m thinking about it, i don’t see what point it accomplishes as a wolf. might be a villagery progression
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:13 am
i townlean potentialsheltervet because she seems unfettered by the pressure on her and has maintained a consistent feeling of comfort even tho a lot of the thread so far has revolved around people accusing her and bcuz the nuance of the way she is reading the ppl pushing her (ie: townreading neon and seanzie for a perceived sincerity in their read on her but then not extending the same to ted) feels organic to me
i picked up on the same thing, except i was unsure if that was villagery. i voted cuz i have a habit of
as for your camilla vote, my gut feeling was to kinda "ehhh do i really buy this angle" on her reads upon me skimming again, but for some reason i don't feel compelled to vote
i'll say having psv as her highest wolf read and neon as villagery were some of the reads i kinda found a bit weird, not for the reads themselves just how she got to them. the neon read seemed off, i don't see why her posting couldn't have been that of a wolf
i mean the reason she gave for neon could be said of mostly everyone, including dennis / kate / maybe even falcon
if i had to verbalize what pinged me about ted, it's probably the idea that it feels like he is specifically searching for people to push as opposed to looking for people to townread, and while this can be a matter of playstyle differences, i feel that his pushes have been a bit limp/have fizzled out in a way that shows a lack of internal conviction
im thinking about the way that he came into the game pushing on dennis for sounding ~overly friendly~ but then dropped the push as soon as the thread consensus started agreeing that dennis was town, or the way that he kind of spoke ...around camilia in a way that could be read as trying to egg on the pushes on her without directly getting his hands dirty himself
yeah idk. it's a bit hard for me to articulate. i just haven't felt a sincere solving process from ted yet
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:58 pm
to be honest it feels to me like one of those games where the wolves are primarily in the lower posters/people with zero presence which makes it uniquely hard to find a wolfread that i feel confident about
it also generally just feels like not enough has happened for me to have a strong understanding of the current gamestate
I mean, it feels like most people in the game have very little presence at all in here, tbh.
It's kind of why I'm working rn with microreads like pyxxy's reaction to my vote or Kate's sole read being a meta-based agreement on Dennis.
in terms of "players who have actually contributed and made game related content" ted is probably the player that ive been the most pinged by, but there is also a contingent of players that i feel have barely dipped their toes into the game that i have no idea how to read at all (ie: sig, kate, sixstrings, falcon)
Cause he did this once in a game as town, where he drops in and says just a list, no explanation, and I (maf) pushed a miselim on him
Idk why tf he does it, but it's made me freak out on his slot when he does it and I'm having flashbacks
I kind of want to talk about this
I was in that game too (this is for people who weren't/don't remember)
I thought pyxxy's list and their lists made in the other game felt very different
pyxxy's lists in the other game were more like actual reads lists - ordered and without any comments
the one they posted here just felt like a greeting
what do you mean by "it makes [you] freak out"?
do you townread it?
Less townread it, more I don't know how to read it and it's making me go all "hmm it could be, but also not" in my head
Saying this out loud makes me feel like something should be more obvious to me
Would say this is kind of where I'm at with Lemon's recent posts and re-reading into Kate, tbh.
why is kate specifically so low?
It's a micro-read but her only actual content was saying that Dennis was in his V meta and this was after I pointed out that his demeanor was fairly villagery.
In general it feels kind of off being that it was just an "I agree" post with little substance while at the same time not really furthering the game-state and more of a post to make her look like she was doing something.
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:58 pm
to be honest it feels to me like one of those games where the wolves are primarily in the lower posters/people with zero presence which makes it uniquely hard to find a wolfread that i feel confident about
it also generally just feels like not enough has happened for me to have a strong understanding of the current gamestate
Concur. Obviously very early and no one has flipped but I think discussion has felt v/v. I poked lemonfairy and she felt like a lemonfairy without fur.
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:18 pm
But I also feel like several people have barely been here and are but ghosts skulking in the background. What do they think? What do they feel? I know not.
Hi there, I'm here now gonna read through the few pages.
Why are people voting you?
I talked him into this game, don't be rude syndicaters!
because it's not clear why she's asking why people are voting PSV if she doesn't have any intention to follow up with it or engage with the ppl who were scumreading her - feels more like a filler-y question that a wolf asks to look like they're being productive instead of genuinely caring about the answer
feels like im stretching a bit with this read but yeah
I disagree with Neon's read on me, obviously, but I think the tunnel at least feels sincere. Ted clinging to my wagon feels much more ho-hum. Like they're just doing it to seem productive.
Would say this is kind of where I'm at with Lemon's recent posts and re-reading into Kate, tbh.
why is kate specifically so low?
It's a micro-read but her only actual content was saying that Dennis was in his V meta and this was after I pointed out that his demeanor was fairly villagery.
In general it feels kind of off being that it was just an "I agree" post with little substance while at the same time not really furthering the game-state and more of a post to make her look like she was doing something.
Well, also a lot of people have townread me so far so I'm kinda just like sitting here taking it, but they were all for the same reason (my response to Ted vote) so doesn't everyone minus the first person kinda fall into the same basket?
Also, she's my mother and has read me wrong exactly once, so she always gets her read out on me early
I guess take this defense as you will, but I wouldn't vote Kate for this
Would say this is kind of where I'm at with Lemon's recent posts and re-reading into Kate, tbh.
why is kate specifically so low?
It's a micro-read but her only actual content was saying that Dennis was in his V meta and this was after I pointed out that his demeanor was fairly villagery.
In general it feels kind of off being that it was just an "I agree" post with little substance while at the same time not really furthering the game-state and more of a post to make her look like she was doing something.
Well, also a lot of people have townread me so far so I'm kinda just like sitting here taking it, but they were all for the same reason (my response to Ted vote) so doesn't everyone minus the first person kinda fall into the same basket?
Also, she's my mother and has read me wrong exactly once, so she always gets her read out on me early
I guess take this defense as you will, but I wouldn't vote Kate for this
Main issue I have with that is that she kind of did it after we started warming up on your slot and that you were the only one she TR'd, tbh.
It kind of feels like she is playing relatively safe-ish.
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 6:08 pm[VOTE:
Seanzie] aubergine
Tell me more.
didn't like how you overstated your reads (announcing that you solved the game) when the reason you gave was very lackluster in comparison
I think the confidence you initially displayed feels fake and fake bravado is an easy way to mask other emotions and look like you're invested in your reads more than you actually are
Well, Lemonfairy has me figured out better than half the people I've played a dozen games with.
