Art UPickish D3

[Scotty]

I don’t like lemonfairy’s voting at end of day.

Should I?

Because I don’t.

[Dennis]

I don’t like lemonfairy’s voting at end of day.

Should I?

Because I don’t.

Lemonfairy's in this game?

[Thunal33]

Like, do y’all not see what I’m seeing with quin?

And if you think quin is good, why am I as wolf trying to pull off him? TMI? I just sit back and let it happen

I still townlean especially this post from Scotty. Him wondering why others aren't seeing the same thing he is combined with questioning why he would pull off Quin are both good looks imo.

Interesting dynamic you’ve got going here. Was your last post directed at me meant to be interrogative RE my vote for Kate? Do you think I might have had a better read that you wanted me to expound upon or just playing the fence here?

Yes. I still townlean you and I wanted to know if or why you wanted Kate chopped because that was a minor point of paranoia.

[Seanzie]

Like, do y’all not see what I’m seeing with quin?

And if you think quin is good, why am I as wolf trying to pull off him? TMI? I just sit back and let it happen

I still townlean especially this post from Scotty. Him wondering why others aren't seeing the same thing he is combined with questioning why he would pull off Quin are both good looks imo.

Interesting dynamic you’ve got going here. Was your last post directed at me meant to be interrogative RE my vote for Kate? Do you think I might have had a better read that you wanted me to expound upon or just playing the fence here?

Yes. I still townlean you and I wanted to know if or why you wanted Kate chopped because that was a minor point of paranoia.

Tell me about me. Am I a good D1 chop? Why didn't you vote me yesterday?

[Thunal33]

I suspect Kate.

Something someone once told me about how she approaches early game, I'm seeing it here.

Of course I could be wrong, but also [VOTE: kate] aubergine

Oh please elaborate, I'd love to hear this.

I arrived late, I townleaned Dennis and then I talked about cannibalism lol

If you honestly think I'm bad, then you should and would stop being so cryptic. But I don't honestly think you think that. I actually think you wish I were bad.

But, alas, I am civ once again.

I interpret "wishing [Kate was] bad" as Kate thinking Falcon wants to catch her. If that's wrong let me know, but I think Kate is implying Falcon is town with this response. For most people, if someone is tunneling them it's natural to question the tunneler's alignment, but Kate said this, later townleaned Falcon, and moved on. It felt a bit too linear and consistent.

Uh oh, Kate might be Maf

No. I'm playing exactly like I did last game, just not looking at you...yet

I don't think she played exactly like that other game. The town explanation is that she could be unaware of how differently her play vibed. There's also a plausible wolf explanation, that she's *trying* to play exactly like last game and so feels confident in saying she did. I have a mild ping that this is Kate's defense instead of something along the lines of saying it's her town game whether or not it's the same as last game.

@falcon45ca what's your current read on Kate and how confident are you in that read?

.."too consistent"? Why is being consistent scummy?

When someone comes out of the gate pushing me, I tend to question their alignment. It was a minor ping that Kate wasn't.

[Thunal33]

Like, do y’all not see what I’m seeing with quin?

And if you think quin is good, why am I as wolf trying to pull off him? TMI? I just sit back and let it happen

I still townlean especially this post from Scotty. Him wondering why others aren't seeing the same thing he is combined with questioning why he would pull off Quin are both good looks imo.

Interesting dynamic you’ve got going here. Was your last post directed at me meant to be interrogative RE my vote for Kate? Do you think I might have had a better read that you wanted me to expound upon or just playing the fence here?

Yes. I still townlean you and I wanted to know if or why you wanted Kate chopped because that was a minor point of paranoia.

Tell me about me. Am I a good D1 chop? Why didn't you vote me yesterday?

I didn't vote you yesterday because I townleaned you. I thought you specifically making the observation that my townlean was too copy and paste from other games showed some towny paranoia. Now with the Porscha NK and me townreading Scotty and Quin, I'm not convinced you're town but your d1 content was slightly towny.

[Thunal33]

Yeah, Thun randed wolf. Sorry about the rand your first game back, I am happy you're back though!

Yep, I did rand wolf my first game back. And my game looked nothing like this, it was far more controlled and less scatterbrained.

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[Roxy]

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Hi pyxxy why did you say you're "fine with town dennis" earlier?

Why do you always ask this question? Do you want us to talk about you more or are you trying to learn your own play?

Most of the time, it's because I don't think I'd done anything AI when they made the read, and if I had I want that specified. In this case pyxxy said it very in passing, and didn't answer me the first time I pushed him

So its a combination of I want to know what he thought is AI, not allowing him to just ignore a question like that, and especially since pyxxy and I get along easily I'm pretty susceptible to him trying to pocket me. I also have a secret theory that's possible that I won't share as of now

Oh fun. More secrets

Would a town Kate give up about wanting to know secrets this easily? And with Dennis no less?

TKate where are you?

I want to know what Dennis was meaning being this post.


Today is my last few hours with Ariya so I'll be in and out at her leisure until later

[Seanzie]

Like, do y’all not see what I’m seeing with quin?

And if you think quin is good, why am I as wolf trying to pull off him? TMI? I just sit back and let it happen

I still townlean especially this post from Scotty. Him wondering why others aren't seeing the same thing he is combined with questioning why he would pull off Quin are both good looks imo.

Interesting dynamic you’ve got going here. Was your last post directed at me meant to be interrogative RE my vote for Kate? Do you think I might have had a better read that you wanted me to expound upon or just playing the fence here?

Yes. I still townlean you and I wanted to know if or why you wanted Kate chopped because that was a minor point of paranoia.

Tell me about me. Am I a good D1 chop? Why didn't you vote me yesterday?

I didn't vote you yesterday because I townleaned you. I thought you specifically making the observation that my townlean was too copy and paste from other games showed some towny paranoia. Now with the Porscha NK and me townreading Scotty and Quin, I'm not convinced you're town but your d1 content was slightly towny.

Tell me about Quin.

[Seanzie]

Yeah, Thun randed wolf. Sorry about the rand your first game back, I am happy you're back though!

Yep, I did rand wolf my first game back. And my game looked nothing like this, it was far more controlled and less scatterbrained.

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Good news: you are very controlled and not scatterbrained this game.

[Dubz]

I don’t like lemonfairy’s voting at end of day.

Should I?

Because I don’t.

Just finished vote tracking spreadsheet and I don't like it either tbh

@Lemonfairy can you talk about your D1 votes pls?

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Lemonfairy] aubergine

[Thunal33]

Seanzie I don't townlean anymore since I think there's a good chance the Sean wagon was pure and wolves would be more likely to want him dead if he's town over ML bait Creature imo.

I'm really not following this

So because the seanzie wagon was pure, the wolves would have joined and pushed him over rather than killing creature? Is that right?

Well that all relies on the seanzie wagon being pure, which I sort of find hard to believe as a main wagon at eod1. It's possible but I'd need to look at his voters

It's like, being a wagon doesn't directly make you a suspect and that wagon felt empty from the start

I feel like this makes less sense but I'm struggling to find the words right now. If you could go into more depth explaining this I'd appreciate it

Sure. Porscha was NKed and she suspected Seanzie. I independently townread Scotty and Quin. If Seanzie/Creature was t/t, I thought wolves would prefer Seanzie over Creature. Why? Seanzie was one of the top posters, spitballing takes, and often got NKed when I played with him a long time ago. Creature very clearly expressed disinterest in the game and didn't contribute much to town. If Seanzie were town, I think wolves would want to get him out and I don't think wolves were trying to get him out.

After reading Seanzie's d2 I think he might just be town. His insistence that he was a bad CW, him latching onto me for me not townleaning him being a bad post, and his level of engagement are all town pings I got today. If Sean were wolf, I think he'd take a bit more cautious approach. He knows I can obvtown myself, so I'd think he'd be a bit more reserved in pushing me/leave room for doubt which he clearly isn't.

[Thunal33]

I think it is best for town to be upfront with what we did. Our power is not easily judged by our art.

I have some info. I have 3 pieces of art, 2 from the auction and 1 that I got from voting Creature. I roleblocked Pyxxy with Dennis's essay and watched Kate with Yoda. Zenon and Falcon visited Kate. I thought Falcon had targeted Kate with an investigative ability considering he scumread Kate, which is why I pinged him specifically when I shared my concerns about Kate. I also tried an alignment cop check with the "auctions are for losers" assigned art but it failed.

[Dubz]

[VOTE: lemon ] aubergine
Still looking over Quin and Thunal...I think both have scum equity but not sure I see them as partnered so there's that

[Thunal33]

Like, do y’all not see what I’m seeing with quin?

And if you think quin is good, why am I as wolf trying to pull off him? TMI? I just sit back and let it happen

I still townlean especially this post from Scotty. Him wondering why others aren't seeing the same thing he is combined with questioning why he would pull off Quin are both good looks imo.

Interesting dynamic you’ve got going here. Was your last post directed at me meant to be interrogative RE my vote for Kate? Do you think I might have had a better read that you wanted me to expound upon or just playing the fence here?

Yes. I still townlean you and I wanted to know if or why you wanted Kate chopped because that was a minor point of paranoia.

Tell me about me. Am I a good D1 chop? Why didn't you vote me yesterday?

I didn't vote you yesterday because I townleaned you. I thought you specifically making the observation that my townlean was too copy and paste from other games showed some towny paranoia. Now with the Porscha NK and me townreading Scotty and Quin, I'm not convinced you're town but your d1 content was slightly towny.

Tell me about Quin.

I thought his mechanical RT was towny since he was willingly putting himself into suspicion for it and I thought his legacy post and vote on Scotty then following it up with doubting his read was towny.

[Dubz]

Uh once I figure out the best way to share my vote tracker I will try to do that, if anyone wants to look at it. Forewarning that the formatting works for my brain but may be awful for others lol

[Seanzie]

I still townlean especially this post from Scotty. Him wondering why others aren't seeing the same thing he is combined with questioning why he would pull off Quin are both good looks imo.

Interesting dynamic you’ve got going here. Was your last post directed at me meant to be interrogative RE my vote for Kate? Do you think I might have had a better read that you wanted me to expound upon or just playing the fence here?

Yes. I still townlean you and I wanted to know if or why you wanted Kate chopped because that was a minor point of paranoia.

Tell me about me. Am I a good D1 chop? Why didn't you vote me yesterday?

I didn't vote you yesterday because I townleaned you. I thought you specifically making the observation that my townlean was too copy and paste from other games showed some towny paranoia. Now with the Porscha NK and me townreading Scotty and Quin, I'm not convinced you're town but your d1 content was slightly towny.

Tell me about Quin.

I thought his mechanical RT was towny since he was willingly putting himself into suspicion for it and I thought his legacy post and vote on Scotty then following it up with doubting his read was towny.

It clearly wasn't actually a RT though, and I think him saying it was is weird.

I had to really dig to find his "legacy post". Quin was not someone who was super townread or a major threat, so why would they feel the need to do a legacy post, and why would you interpret their post as particularly legacy-y? This is weird.

Quin is town though. But not for the reasons you've mentioned. Except maybe the scotty thing.

[Seanzie]

Yeah, y'all... we're gonna need to elim Thun.

[Thunal33]

Interesting dynamic you’ve got going here. Was your last post directed at me meant to be interrogative RE my vote for Kate? Do you think I might have had a better read that you wanted me to expound upon or just playing the fence here?

Yes. I still townlean you and I wanted to know if or why you wanted Kate chopped because that was a minor point of paranoia.

Tell me about me. Am I a good D1 chop? Why didn't you vote me yesterday?

I didn't vote you yesterday because I townleaned you. I thought you specifically making the observation that my townlean was too copy and paste from other games showed some towny paranoia. Now with the Porscha NK and me townreading Scotty and Quin, I'm not convinced you're town but your d1 content was slightly towny.

Tell me about Quin.

I thought his mechanical RT was towny since he was willingly putting himself into suspicion for it and I thought his legacy post and vote on Scotty then following it up with doubting his read was towny.

It clearly wasn't actually a RT though, and I think him saying it was is weird.

I had to really dig to find his "legacy post". Quin was not someone who was super townread or a major threat, so why would they feel the need to do a legacy post, and why would you interpret their post as particularly legacy-y? This is weird.

Quin is town though. But not for the reasons you've mentioned. Except maybe the scotty thing.

I think it was an RT. You may not have been around for it, but Quin was the top wagon and said himself he thought he was going to die. I interpreted his post scumreading Scotty and Dennis as a legacy post because it was. Can you read my other recent posts instead of just disputing this one? Because I did just drop some mechanical info and gave good reasons why I had some suspicion on you at start of day.

This will likely be my last post defending myself against you. I'd like to use the rest of my posts solving and if I do go over, I want to take the wolves down with me.

[Seanzie]

Yes. I still townlean you and I wanted to know if or why you wanted Kate chopped because that was a minor point of paranoia.

Tell me about me. Am I a good D1 chop? Why didn't you vote me yesterday?

I didn't vote you yesterday because I townleaned you. I thought you specifically making the observation that my townlean was too copy and paste from other games showed some towny paranoia. Now with the Porscha NK and me townreading Scotty and Quin, I'm not convinced you're town but your d1 content was slightly towny.

Tell me about Quin.

I thought his mechanical RT was towny since he was willingly putting himself into suspicion for it and I thought his legacy post and vote on Scotty then following it up with doubting his read was towny.

It clearly wasn't actually a RT though, and I think him saying it was is weird.

I had to really dig to find his "legacy post". Quin was not someone who was super townread or a major threat, so why would they feel the need to do a legacy post, and why would you interpret their post as particularly legacy-y? This is weird.

Quin is town though. But not for the reasons you've mentioned. Except maybe the scotty thing.

I think it was an RT. You may not have been around for it, but Quin was the top wagon and said himself he thought he was going to die. I interpreted his post scumreading Scotty and Dennis as a legacy post because it was. Can you read my other recent posts instead of just disputing this one? Because I did just drop some mechanical info and gave good reasons why I had some suspicion on you at start of day.

This will likely be my last post defending myself against you. I'd like to use the rest of my posts solving and if I do go over, I want to take the wolves down with me.

I have read your other posts.

[Thunal33]

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Is this the whole "creature is quiet and disengaged when scum" thing again?

bingo

as in

I literally could not believe it was that simple of a case last time

I am trying to do a better job of not playing 4d chess when I don't have to

ez early vote with little consequence and if he does flip scum later I'll look great

and if he doesn't who would really blame me

Btw this is why I roleblocked pyxxy last night. This post gave me a couple pings at the same time - "if he flips scum later I'll look great" and "if he doesn't who would really blame me". It's so self-conscious. Pyxxy wasn't concerned about being right, he was concerned about how he'd look.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Hmm thunal's iso is struggling to make me feel anything at all

Alright this is like 85% sheeping Seanzie [VOTE: thunal] aubergine

Opportunistic vote milord

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Kate come play with me meeeeee

@Kate uwu

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

In other news my ability is pride themed lol

[falcon45ca]

Hey, what I miss?

[Seanzie]

Hey, what I miss?

What do you think of Kate?

[falcon45ca]

Hey, what I miss?

What do you think of Kate?

She's prolly town, I think I was reading too much into things.




What's your take on Thunal?

[Thunal33]

Hmm thunal's iso is struggling to make me feel anything at all

Alright this is like 85% sheeping Seanzie [VOTE: thunal] aubergine

Opportunistic vote milord

What's your read on me?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Hmm thunal's iso is struggling to make me feel anything at all

Alright this is like 85% sheeping Seanzie [VOTE: thunal] aubergine

Opportunistic vote milord

What's your read on me?

I don't really have one but I do note that Dennis' flip into you happened right after you started to pick up a lot of pressure in thread from other people... although you haven't really received many votes off of that pressure ig soooo

[Thunal33]

I don't scumread Kate btw. When I was away from the thread I realized that although I was sorting Seanzie and went back and forth a bit in my head, I came to that he was town for his tunnel and only expressed that in the thread. I think Kate could be town that did similar with Falcon. I'm also willing to sheep Falcon's take on Kate today if it is an investigative result like I think it is.

[Seanzie]

Hey, what I miss?

What do you think of Kate?

She's prolly town, I think I was reading too much into things.




What's your take on Thunal?

I think my take on Thun is pretty self-evident in thread.

[Scotty]

I think it is best for town to be upfront with what we did. Our power is not easily judged by our art.

I have some info. I have 3 pieces of art, 2 from the auction and 1 that I got from voting Creature. I roleblocked Pyxxy with Dennis's essay and watched Kate with Yoda. Zenon and Falcon visited Kate. I thought Falcon had targeted Kate with an investigative ability considering he scumread Kate, which is why I pinged him specifically when I shared my concerns about Kate. I also tried an alignment cop check with the "auctions are for losers" assigned art but it failed.

Wait not only can we collect more than 1 piece of art, we can use multiple actions in 1 night?

Holy shit I’ve never felt so VT

[Kate]

@Kate who's bad

Is it you?

[Scotty]

Hey, what I miss?

What do you think of Kate?

She's prolly town, I think I was reading too much into things.




What's your take on Thunal?

If Thunal is right, then you supposedly visited Kate.

Do you have any mech info on who killed Porscha praytell?

[Kate]

There's one thing that sticks out to me about Scotty's votes at EoD and that's his vote on Kate. From what I know, Kate's been on a great read streak and switching there would be a big gamble. @Scotty why did you vote Kate?

Ditto.

[Kate]

I have to catch up I'm only on page 8 and I have yet another headache. My night art failed. I was bummed bc they are both hilarious.

I'll be back as soon as I'm able.

[Scotty]

I made the coolest ability ever off my art and than rolled and like half failed it

Did you learn anything specific from your visit to Kate that you would like to share with the class?

[Scotty]

I don’t see any reason Thun would disclose all that info for it to be wrong.

[Scotty]

I have to catch up I'm only on page 8 and I have yet another headache. My night art failed. I was bummed bc they are both hilarious.

I'll be back as soon as I'm able.

Like damn am I the only one with only 1 art piece?

Kate, do you have mech info on who killed Porscha?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I made the coolest ability ever off my art and than rolled and like half failed it

Did you learn anything specific from your visit to Kate that you would like to share with the class?

Nope cause my ability mostly failed lol

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So I just got a generic protect off instead.

[Thunal33]

I think it is best for town to be upfront with what we did. Our power is not easily judged by our art.

I have some info. I have 3 pieces of art, 2 from the auction and 1 that I got from voting Creature. I roleblocked Pyxxy with Dennis's essay and watched Kate with Yoda. Zenon and Falcon visited Kate. I thought Falcon had targeted Kate with an investigative ability considering he scumread Kate, which is why I pinged him specifically when I shared my concerns about Kate. I also tried an alignment cop check with the "auctions are for losers" assigned art but it failed.

Wait not only can we collect more than 1 piece of art, we can use multiple actions in 1 night?

Holy shit I’ve never felt so VT

Yes but max 2 successful actions. I think you can use a role from the museum and your art in the same night.

[Scotty]

I think it is best for town to be upfront with what we did. Our power is not easily judged by our art.

I have some info. I have 3 pieces of art, 2 from the auction and 1 that I got from voting Creature. I roleblocked Pyxxy with Dennis's essay and watched Kate with Yoda. Zenon and Falcon visited Kate. I thought Falcon had targeted Kate with an investigative ability considering he scumread Kate, which is why I pinged him specifically when I shared my concerns about Kate. I also tried an alignment cop check with the "auctions are for losers" assigned art but it failed.

Wait not only can we collect more than 1 piece of art, we can use multiple actions in 1 night?

Holy shit I’ve never felt so VT

Yes but max 2 successful actions. I think you can use a role from the museum and your art in the same night.

Wow I have absolutely no idea how this game works

[potentialsheltervet]

Yeah I don't think I can read back someone summarize D1 plox

You there?

At work. Hitting on a girl online. So kinda lol.

Is there any other way to hit on a girl? In person is too scary.

[Scotty]

[VOTE: lemonfairy] aubergine

Nice wagon we got here

[Scotty]

Oops I jumped off my buddy Dennis again, @Quin

[potentialsheltervet]

Mind meld on scotty

I actually think Seanzie is more sus. Scotty was just acting weird with the vote flip flopping yesterday.

(did seanzie even show up at eod? i dont remember that)

He didn't.

I think I'm missing something, how is he more sus if he didn't show up?

I said Scotty's EOD behavior was weird but I'm not talking about Seanzie's EOD behavior because there was none

Do you think weird makes me good or bad?

Legitimately? I don't know, and I'm hoping praying for clarity works.
GTH I'd lean town.

[potentialsheltervet]

My eyes are on Scotty after that EOD and Seanzie since he turned into the Creature CW.

No. Nothing exactly nothing about "turning into" a CW actually suggests something about my alignment.

What movement suggests this? Explain in detail please.

I have never explained anything in detail, but:
It feels like votes cascaded to creature after they started getting on you. At least in my memory.

I wasn't there for EoD, so I don't know the vote orders, but why would you describe me as turning into the Creature CW if this is true? What you describe would be the opposite.

Woops. Yes, you're correct.

[potentialsheltervet]

My eyes are on Scotty after that EOD and Seanzie since he turned into the Creature CW.

Who all here have you played with before?

Everyone except Quin

Well that's one I wanted to ask you about, so, RIP

how do you feel about thun, falcon, and pyxxy?

Falcon and pyxxy haven't been here enough for me to have any significant reads on them.
I've only played with Thunal once and it was a Mafia game. There she was louder and filled the space more. It was also a smaller game. I think I lean town here?