[TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

falcon45ca
Michelle
Epignosis
Roxy
Wiml
DrWilgy
Abigail
Kate
Quin
Lime Coke

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@DrWilgy could you expand on why Wiml was one of the names of interest for you when you were considering possible mafia pairs?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

It's a read I've used with consistency for months with insanely high accuracy.

The read is the first wagon with 3 votes always had 1 wolf in 4 names

I admittedly forced it here but still.

I disagree with the "high accuracy" portion of this post as the games I have played it has had only a 50/50 accuracy no worse than GTH reads imo.

I keep stats and it's >75% accurate across all sites

ok, but I'll agree to disagree with your stats <3 In the nicest poss way

You literally can not disagree with them. I gave quite literally physically recorded them. They are quite literally proven.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

You literally can not disagree with them. I gave quite literally physically recorded them. They are quite literally proven.

How many of those wagons proven by your stats included your own town vote?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

This is not real lol

Reads are fluid, especially this early. Keep doing your thing, Abigail.

Okay but like what I mean by this is not real is that 2 people have said that I'm town

Michelle has said why

They've answered

Michelle has said no

And they've been like oh ha yes you are right in fact no

And nobody thinks this is fishy or weird.

It brings to mind that famous W Bush quote

Fool me once shame on you fool me twice uh never fool me again

This is extremely coherent for a tzenon.

Gonna put my vote here for now.

[VOTE: PA] aubergine

I... what? Your voting me for making sense?

[Epignosis]

Jesus, I missed a lot of weird ass games here. Highways?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@☆Princess Abigail☆ what can I do to help you get into this game?

I dunno...

[Epignosis]

I'm very interested in knowing Abigail's read on Kate.

Haven't you asked for this about twelve times?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@☆Princess Abigail☆ what can I do to help you get into this game?

I dunno...

I have an idea to help you out. I can't say what it is until you agree though. It'll take just a few minutes.

Are you game?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm very interested in knowing Abigail's read on Kate.

Haven't you asked for this about twelve times?

Probably more times than necessary. She seems to be reviewing the game in order so I'll wait a bit.

[Epignosis]

Kate's volume trends:

Currently
18 posts

Town
Cyberpunk - 114 posts, 2 cycles (57 per)
Sesame Street - 80 posts, 1 cycle (80 per)
Summer Sh*t - 275 posts, 2 cycles (138 per)
Muppet Babies - 98 posts, 1 cycle (98 per)
Hotdog Fingers - 360 posts, 6 cycles (60 per)
Lawyers, Guns, Money - 344 posts, 4 cycles (86 per)
Bad Dates - 107, 1.5 cycles (71 per) *replacement

Mafia
Felt Mafia 3 - 115 posts, 3 cycles (38 per)
Scooby Doo - 194 posts, 4 cycles (49 per)

I won't call this damning, because every game is circumstantial. But it should be noted that the lowest two post rates are the two mafia games, and this game is on a slow Kate rate. The above list is not comprehensive. I just grabbed a decent handful of what I could find on a quick review of the site Hall of Fame.

Tell me you want to win a mafia game without telling me you want to win a mafia game.

[Epignosis]

What the hell is a difference check?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What the hell is a difference check?

It's a stupid term, and I would be thrilled to replace it. It's Mafia lingo attached to two players to mean "exactly one of these players is mafia, not both and not neither".

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm very interested in knowing Abigail's read on Kate.

At this point in catch up it is not positive lol

[Epignosis]

Okay, I powered through. Not mafia: JJJ, Syn, Wimi (You get one adverb pass and one only), Roxy (I think Kate is mafia), Michelle, DrWilgy

That's where I is.

[Epignosis]

I'm finishing this nightcap and thereafter going to make a desperate attempt to sleep. If you have anything to ask, speak now or forever hold your pee.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm finishing this nightcap and thereafter going to make a desperate attempt to sleep. If you have anything to ask, speak now or forever hold your pee.

What sells you on Kate being mafia, and do you believe she can be teamed with Abigail?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@☆Princess Abigail☆

Would you agree that, even if the "first three-vote wagon contains one mafioso in four names" theory is consistently accurate, that you fundamentally break it by causing the wagon to reach three votes yourself?

Yes though I've done it before. It generates content. Readable content and while I've not tracked the success of forcing the read and can't remember if it worked or not I do think there's validity in that it forced his readable content out of Michelle You Roxy...

[Epignosis]

I'm finishing this nightcap and thereafter going to make a desperate attempt to sleep. If you have anything to ask, speak now or forever hold your pee.

What sells you on Kate being mafia, and do you believe she can be teamed with Abigail?

I wasn't even looking that way until Roxy said something. I could find the post but I'm tired and it's not like Roxy has a million of them.

I think Kate's milking the "Look how well I read Zenon in Bad Dates." I expected you as the host to have more to say on that front, but okay.

It came across as disingenuous, such that Kate even bobbled the alignment.

Then it takes a million attempts to get a word about Kate, and now these two are just distancing at this point.

It's goofy. There's no interaction between them. They aren't looking to figure each other out. They are lost. I'm going with teammates here.

[Epignosis]

Two fingers of bourbon left. Keep 'em coming.

[Epignosis]

Never mind. Don't rush. I have a grocery order to put together.

[Epignosis]

Can't decide on what I want to cook for supper this week.

I'm booooored this thread is so slooooow

Civilian.

I'm so booooored this game is so slow

Civilian.

Booooored

Civilian.

But mostly booooored

Civilian.

I am so very boooored

Civilian.

Rem is gone I'm booooored again

Civilian.

I'm booooored

Civilian.

[Lime Coke]

This rookie has been “killing” training camp, according to local writers.

The vets above him think he “operates” with murderous intent.

His “coaches” “think” he “might” actually be a serial killer.

Team security found “a” shovel in his car.

Look out, this kid is DANGEROUS.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm finishing this nightcap and thereafter going to make a desperate attempt to sleep. If you have anything to ask, speak now or forever hold your pee.

What sells you on Kate being mafia, and do you believe she can be teamed with Abigail?

I wasn't even looking that way until Roxy said something. I could find the post but I'm tired and it's not like Roxy has a million of them.

I think Kate's milking the "Look how well I read Zenon in Bad Dates." I expected you as the host to have more to say on that front, but okay.

It came across as disingenuous, such that Kate even bobbled the alignment.

Then it takes a million attempts to get a word about Kate, and now these two are just distancing at this point.

It's goofy. There's no interaction between them. They aren't looking to figure each other out. They are lost. I'm going with teammates here.

Understood, thanks. Regarding the highlighted bit; I barely read my own game. I didn't think much of all that here, but your point is taken anyway.

[Epignosis]

Thought that might be the case regarding your own game, but didn't want to say anything myself.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

This rookie has been “killing” training camp, according to local writers.

The vets above him think he “operates” with murderous intent.

His “coaches” “think” he “might” actually be a serial killer.

Team security found “a” shovel in his car.

Look out, this kid is DANGEROUS.

I also saw that tweet. Hi Lime Coke. Who's mafia?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@☆Princess Abigail☆

Would you agree that, even if the "first three-vote wagon contains one mafioso in four names" theory is consistently accurate, that you fundamentally break it by causing the wagon to reach three votes yourself?

Yes though I've done it before. It generates content. Readable content and while I've not tracked the success of forcing the read and can't remember if it worked or not I do think there's validity in that it forced his readable content out of Michelle You Roxy...

How did you read that content for Michelle and Roxy?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Thought that might be the case regarding your own game, but didn't want to say anything myself.

One more question if you have the chance: any impression of DrWilgy so far?

[Epignosis]

Thought that might be the case regarding your own game, but didn't want to say anything myself.

One more question if you have the chance: any impression of DrWilgy so far?

Yeah, I've got him tagged as good. Afterthought good. As good as you can tag Wilgy. Goodish.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Thought that might be the case regarding your own game, but didn't want to say anything myself.

One more question if you have the chance: any impression of DrWilgy so far?

Yeah, I've got him tagged as good. Afterthought good. As good as you can tag Wilgy. Goodish.

Thanks. Agreed.

[Epignosis]

All right, I'm buggin off for real now.

Don't let the fly swatters bite.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I do think being uninformed is a completely different beast. It's a lot easier to post when you have no clue.

Anyway, it's not worth dwelling on at this point. Kate is in my POE regardless of volume. I am considering Kate/Abigail as a difference check now (insert obligatory "or some softer version of that term").

I'd be interested in hearing your difference check read if you're up for explaining it?

The Kate/Abigail dif check is real. I remember thinking there was one but couldn't tell you for the life of me as to why I thought it.

Wild that it was observed by someone else though, I'd never had said anything and just let it amount to fuzzy sick brain.

I would expect... perhaps wrongfully... that Kate would have a better read on me than this

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Bro

I can't even comprehend my own thoughts rn. How did you do it?

They don’t give you a doctorate in psychology until you demonstrate that you can read minds.

Oh read mine read mine

[Quin]

Ick.

What's ick?

Sounds like I wasn't the only one who hadn't posted. I wanted to know why he picked me.

I also don't think throwing votes on inactives is part of his civilian playbook to begin with. It's LHF.

Okay. I'll let Epi respond to that before I say more.

oi





Also, I want my cookie.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I've become enlightened.

Team is:
Epi, Abigail
Epi, Kate
Wiml, Abigail
Wiml, Kate
Wilgy, Kate

Miss me wit dem @s

You know I'm very tempted to have you guys lynch me just so I could prove definitively that intuition is better than stats.

We got em boys pack it in

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Is cheesecake a pie or cake?

Better than both

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Is cheesecake a pie or cake?

Worse than both

Scum just for this post

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

The contrary view for Abigail is that she is not engaged or energized in this thread, and that's a stark difference to recent town games. I don't recall seeing her play as mafia and would need to snoop around to determine how meaningful that is.

This is indeed wolf indicative for me.

But must be compared with the general unease I feel about myself and my play right now

I don't have any knowledge regarding how you feel about yourself and your play right now. It isn't something I can factor into my view of you (and this goes for anybody else). I can only go by what's in the thread.

Kay well this was neither directed at you nor exclusive information that only you can read.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I have ten posts, including the one I just made. I feel like I'm not playing.

I can just say at this point:

I figured your blind vote for Quin and your move against Abigail were both more "throw something at the wall and see how people handle it" than concrete reads. You can tell me if that's true or not.

True for Quin. My current vote is "realer."

Why Quin?

Nobody knew where you were.

Ick.

Vote: Epi

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@☆Princess Abigail☆ would you be able to put together a full list of reads? Rainbow or tiers or something like that would be super. Explanations only if you feel like it.

I mean my list is just what I've posted

Your town or your not in my eyes

You and falcon are town and I'm like at least gonna fake confidence until exelo on both those reads.

I literally have not found anyone else this game. Wiml is probably the closest thing I have to another town lock at this point in catch up his posts are inquisitive and insightful in a way that's towny in mindset in my opinion. Their questions seem to come from a place of genuine solving and not from a place of pushing a scum agenda.

Now I do need to disclose that my dyslexia is particularly awful this game so I'm struggling to read and retain a lot of Wimls posts because they are often wordy but what I do manage to understand feels pure as snow to me...

Actually writing this post has made me pretty confident

TOWN CORE

JJJ
Wiml
Falc
+3

Falcon is like exclusively just based off the fact that there's a large consensus on him being town I am in agreement though less hoorah on it but others confidence is just kinda influencing my choice since it gels with my general read direction on falc

Adding Wilgy to this

JJJ
Wiml
Falc
Wilgy
+2

Game so ez let's go

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

You literally can not disagree with them. I gave quite literally physically recorded them. They are quite literally proven.

How many of those wagons proven by your stats included your own town vote?

Dunno. I've defs done it before but I don't include that in the stats lol

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm very interested in knowing Abigail's read on Kate.

Haven't you asked for this about twelve times?

Probably more times than necessary. She seems to be reviewing the game in order so I'll wait a bit.

Yes. This is how I am and always have done catch ups

You don't play with me but Epi has so the shade feels excessively fake.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@☆Princess Abigail☆

Would you agree that, even if the "first three-vote wagon contains one mafioso in four names" theory is consistently accurate, that you fundamentally break it by causing the wagon to reach three votes yourself?

Yes though I've done it before. It generates content. Readable content and while I've not tracked the success of forcing the read and can't remember if it worked or not I do think there's validity in that it forced his readable content out of Michelle You Roxy...

Expanding on specifically Roxy I think their reaction was pretty meh generally speaking but for Roxy this specific reaction was >rand towny

Not enough for me to lock it in and town core get but enough that I'm happy to lean her town for now

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Adding Wilgy to this

JJJ
Wiml
Falc
Wilgy
+2

Game so ez let's go

What sold you on Wilgy?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Can't decide on what I want to cook for supper this week.

I'm booooored this thread is so slooooow

Civilian.

I'm so booooored this game is so slow

Civilian.

Booooored

Civilian.

But mostly booooored

Civilian.

I am so very boooored

Civilian.

Rem is gone I'm booooored again

Civilian.

I'm booooored

Civilian.

Well see the problem with reading into this is there's many factors that lead to me being more or less bored.

For instance like a break up might do that. It a new relationship. Or like being lost in one's feelings and thus never being fully caught up in thread meaning one might not be noted

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@☆Princess Abigail☆

Would you agree that, even if the "first three-vote wagon contains one mafioso in four names" theory is consistently accurate, that you fundamentally break it by causing the wagon to reach three votes yourself?

Yes though I've done it before. It generates content. Readable content and while I've not tracked the success of forcing the read and can't remember if it worked or not I do think there's validity in that it forced his readable content out of Michelle You Roxy...

How did you read that content for Michelle and Roxy?

I think I've made my stance on Michelle pretty clear I think they've been excessively wolfy.

Also talked about Roxy

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think I've made my stance on Michelle pretty clear I think they've been excessively wolfy.

Also talked about Roxy

Yep, you got there on your own.

Would it be accurate to say that your current mafia reads are Epignosis, Michelle, and Kate in some order?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Adding Wilgy to this

JJJ
Wiml
Falc
Wilgy
+2

Game so ez let's go

What sold you on Wilgy?

Purrity and vibes entirely and I can't explain it much better than that

[Michelle]

You're implying if Abigail flips town we have to flip Kate?

No. I'm saying that if people believe the dichotomy between the two is valid, then they shouldn't be alive together in the final phases of the game -- folks would be forced to make a choice that'd be similar to guessing.

The dichotomy may also be invalid. I hope folks will discuss that.

Ok

Spoiler: show

He'll probably post.






Like this.

Thanks for keeping your reads open Brad, this looks good for you

Can you explain, in detail that I am sure to understand, what you mean by this gif response to post that does concern you nor contain anything posted by you?

Well see I'm playing mafia so generally speaking wolfy behavior always concerns me. Including this.

Yah I am playing mafia too I do not need that.

What is wolfy behavior that you see in this post?
Who in the post you quoted is wolfy?
Why are they wolfy?

Don't need what exactly not sure what you don't need. I responded to something I didn't like.

It was the second pockety ass last towards anyone and everyone who expressed a scum read on me a towny so yeah that's kinda wolfy fmpov as a town who's getting pushed weakly for something I do literally every game on other sites with great success.

Now that's kinda whatever omgus I get it I get all defensive over people voting me early to but what I don't do is go around uwuing anyone who 180s their read for weak reasons

This is a total word salad and I don't consider it an explanation for the read or reasons for finding me wolfy

@☆Princess Abigail☆ would you be able to put together a full list of reads? Rainbow or tiers or something like that would be super. Explanations only if you feel like it.

I mean my list is just what I've posted

Your town or your not in my eyes

You and falcon are town and I'm like at least gonna fake confidence until exelo on both those reads.

I literally have not found anyone else this game. Wiml is probably the closest thing I have to another town lock at this point in catch up his posts are inquisitive and insightful in a way that's towny in mindset in my opinion. Their questions seem to come from a place of genuine solving and not from a place of pushing a scum agenda.

Now I do need to disclose that my dyslexia is particularly awful this game so I'm struggling to read and retain a lot of Wimls posts because they are often wordy but what I do manage to understand feels pure as snow to me...

Actually writing this post has made me pretty confident

TOWN CORE

JJJ
Wiml
Falc
+3

Falcon is like exclusively just based off the fact that there's a large consensus on him being town I am in agreement though less hoorah on it but others confidence is just kinda influencing my choice since it gels with my general read direction on falc

Are you implying Falcon is town because he is thread spewed?

@☆Princess Abigail☆

Would you agree that, even if the "first three-vote wagon contains one mafioso in four names" theory is consistently accurate, that you fundamentally break it by causing the wagon to reach three votes yourself?

Yes though I've done it before. It generates content. Readable content and while I've not tracked the success of forcing the read and can't remember if it worked or not I do think there's validity in that it forced his readable content out of Michelle You Roxy...

How did you read that content for Michelle and Roxy?

I think I've made my stance on Michelle pretty clear I think they've been excessively wolfy.

Also talked about Roxy

No, your stance are far from being clear, can you restate your reasons?