Severance [Evening Four]

[pyxxy]

Marlboro, ofc. Red brick, ofc. ~ not Bereft

hey not/Bereft can I get a small piece of guidance around the difference between you two?

[leetic]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

If this is true, there's a good chance they're ITP so I wouldn't trust them

[Porscha]

happy no knowledge november! I simply do not want to know anymore!

[Porscha]

I've thought enough! I do not think therefore I don't am <3

[WindwardAway]

Porscha is in this game?

[leetic]

Porscha is in this game?

They're in the game but not listed in the OP

[pyxxy]

I have finally gotten around to reading OP

Spoiler: show

If there are any roleblocking paradoxes, they will be resolved as follows:
---> Two roleblockers target each other ---> First action submitted trumps the other
---> Two jailkeepers target each other ---> First action submitted trumps the other
---> A jailkeeper and a roleblocker target each other ---> roleblocker wins
These things may or may not be possible in this game.

- Double targeting (targeting the same player on consecutive nights) is legal for all roles/abilities that cannot prevent mafia night kills and illegal for those that can.
- Self targeting is legal except when explicitly indicated otherwise.

Ok this is interesting.

Secondarily I know jack shit about the actual tv show so can someone give me the flavour on that?

Spoiler: show

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tv show: u can get a procedure where ur work memories are separate from ur other memories. e.g. 9-5 and u dont remember shit. humanity ensues

[Porscha]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

If this is true, there's a good chance they're ITP so I wouldn't trust them

In Thread Peasant

i'm sure that's what that means

[Bereft]

Marlboro, ofc. Red brick, ofc. ~ not Bereft

hey not/Bereft can I get a small piece of guidance around the difference between you two?

Just pay attention to Bereft. I haven't the faintest clue who not Bereft is, but they're not Bereft. ~ Schweppes

[leetic]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

If this is true, there's a good chance they're ITP so I wouldn't trust them

In Thread Peasant

i'm sure that's what that means

Assuming you're not just being dense, Independent Third Party

[Porscha]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

If this is true, there's a good chance they're ITP so I wouldn't trust them

In Thread Peasant

i'm sure that's what that means

Assuming you're not just being dense, Independent Third Party

You would be surprised to find that is incorrect

[pyxxy]

Marlboro, ofc. Red brick, ofc. ~ not Bereft

hey not/Bereft can I get a small piece of guidance around the difference between you two?

Just pay attention to Bereft. I haven't the faintest clue who not Bereft is, but they're not Bereft. ~ Schweppes

ty schweppes

[leetic]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

If this is true, there's a good chance they're ITP so I wouldn't trust them

In Thread Peasant

i'm sure that's what that means

Assuming you're not just being dense, Independent Third Party

You would be surprised to find that is incorrect

Then what the hell are you? And are other people gonna show up?

[pyxxy]

@Porscha how long are you going to be in this thread, if you may tell us

[Bereft]

I lose the staring contest with the tabasco bottle and decided to smile. It feels so good to choose to have a smile. I take the bottle off the table, for now at least, everything would be tasteless without the thing.

~ Bereft

[leetic]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

If this is true, there's a good chance they're ITP so I wouldn't trust them

In Thread Peasant

i'm sure that's what that means

Assuming you're not just being dense, Independent Third Party

Apparently, I checked and this seems to be a term only used in Bulbagarden. I apologize for my provincialism.

[MacDougall]

Confident that these three are town

leetic
Ranmilia
WindwardAway

Firmly town

Gira
☆Princess Abigail☆

Slightly leaning town

Bereft
pyxxy

Slightly suspicious of this lot

TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon
Rondo

My POE

robyn
tedxtr

Do you think there is any indication that robyn and tedxtr may be partnered?

not necessarily

[Porscha]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

If this is true, there's a good chance they're ITP so I wouldn't trust them

In Thread Peasant

i'm sure that's what that means

Assuming you're not just being dense, Independent Third Party

You would be surprised to find that is incorrect

Then what the hell are you? And are other people gonna show up?

@Porscha how long are you going to be in this thread, if you may tell us

ded town and I dont know

I have 4 posts remaining for the night after this

[MacDougall]

Confident that these three are town

leetic
Ranmilia
WindwardAway

Firmly town

Gira
☆Princess Abigail☆

Slightly leaning town

Bereft
pyxxy

Slightly suspicious of this lot

TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon
Rondo

My POE

robyn
tedxtr

Do you think there is any indication that robyn and tedxtr may be partnered?

Hm. About that.

i don't really like this robyn heat. i'd describe them as an ez mislunch and don't see any wolfy poasts or any reason to vote them whatsoever

what happened to ranmilia wolf, dys?

I stand corrected

[leetic]

Confident that these three are town

leetic
Ranmilia
WindwardAway

Firmly town

Gira
☆Princess Abigail☆

Slightly leaning town

Bereft
pyxxy

Slightly suspicious of this lot

TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon
Rondo

My POE

robyn
tedxtr

Do you think there is any indication that robyn and tedxtr may be partnered?

not necessarily

They're your two biggest wolfreads. Are there any interactions between the two that stand out?

[leetic]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

If this is true, there's a good chance they're ITP so I wouldn't trust them

In Thread Peasant

i'm sure that's what that means

Assuming you're not just being dense, Independent Third Party

You would be surprised to find that is incorrect

Then what the hell are you? And are other people gonna show up?

@Porscha how long are you going to be in this thread, if you may tell us

ded town and I dont know

I have 4 posts remaining for the night after this

Are you from the other thread/Discord chat/wherever the other fourteen are from? And did your side of the game have a nightstart?

[WindwardAway]

@MacDougall Can you explain like I'm 5 how you think Robyn has not been towny?

In Robyn I do not see someone who has an agenda to solve the mafia game, but I see someone who has an agenda to appear like they are town and mostly just charm people.

The feeling I get from town Robyn is usually one that is more anxious and concerned with figuring out what everyone is up to. Town Robyn by process ends up getting overtly emotional and irritated.

Mafia Robyn has more emotional control over themselves, and they often end up one step ahead of everyone. They are particularly good at pocketing people by saying specific things that are designed to achieve that goal. For instance Robyn is aware that I have a predisposition for townreading people for lack of TMI and pushing me. Robyn threatened to scumread me earlier for daring to suspect them. But then they didn't, and chose to give me space instead.

I can sense in all of our interactions that Robyn is largely holding their breath and just trying to avoid having me outright bury them. Since I started posting all that Robyn has really done is crack jokes and react.

I'm curious to know how blatantly wolf!Robyn would try to pocket people. Like, holding their breath and backing away if they think it will benefit them more, I could see that. But asking to try to pocket people (in my case)?
Did you see Robyn's answer to my question on why Robyn was so much more concerned about being mislunched on D1 in this game than in the last game we played where they were town, btw, and do you have an opinion on it?

[MacDougall]

obligatory "wtf there is 30 pages post"

bet you guys wish you could vote me for it

Porscha jumpscare

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

There's no hammer in play, right? 'Cause if there is, we're two away from that. And Abby is playing and not on robyn, so yeah, that could be a disaster.

L1 L1 L1 L1

[WindwardAway]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

If this is true, there's a good chance they're ITP so I wouldn't trust them

In Thread Peasant

i'm sure that's what that means

Lmao

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Omg poesxhaaaaqaq!!!!!

[MacDougall]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

Incidentally Porscha was in fact the 27th signup

[WindwardAway]

I feel like I'm talking out of my ass and should probably go to sleep.

[VOTE: Bereft] aubergine

Good night lol.

seems me calling you beautiful has pocketed u

Robyn is also prone to doing things like this as mafia. Openwolfing so they can point back at it later and say "heh i even told you i was pocketing you".

Nvm that answers my question

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I was saving this for later and forgot about it when I was doing my bereft reading.

16/11 - 17:33
I was nursing a Gira + Leetic worldview, then a Gira is just wrong town and Leetic was with Tedxtr which I later decided was stupid and it was just one of Gira/Leetic/Tedxr leaning Leetic. But now I just think its Tedxtr or just straight up they are all town because they have no idea who I am? But then I loop around to how uncharitable and dogged Leetic has been in trying to push me. Possibly to save someone? Robyn?

I have no idea what is going on between Mac and Robyn but ill let Mac do his thing

Prediction: Neon is bored

This is very boring and I am bery boooooooooref

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

obligatory "wtf there is 30 pages post"

bet you guys wish you could vote me for it

Porscha is my best friend if you vote her ill kill you

[WindwardAway]

@MacDougall Can you explain like I'm 5 how you think Robyn has not been towny?

In Robyn I do not see someone who has an agenda to solve the mafia game, but I see someone who has an agenda to appear like they are town and mostly just charm people.

The feeling I get from town Robyn is usually one that is more anxious and concerned with figuring out what everyone is up to. Town Robyn by process ends up getting overtly emotional and irritated.

Mafia Robyn has more emotional control over themselves, and they often end up one step ahead of everyone. They are particularly good at pocketing people by saying specific things that are designed to achieve that goal. For instance Robyn is aware that I have a predisposition for townreading people for lack of TMI and pushing me. Robyn threatened to scumread me earlier for daring to suspect them. But then they didn't, and chose to give me space instead.

I can sense in all of our interactions that Robyn is largely holding their breath and just trying to avoid having me outright bury them. Since I started posting all that Robyn has really done is crack jokes and react.

i am town, mafia is not obvious here. other people are making content and leetic is badgering people. i am trying to figure out where i went wrong because i currently townread everyone... which is also why my reads are worthless as of now

i am not anxious of you figuring out my alignment, if you did that would be good. specifically i am anxious of being pushed by you, i'm anxious of getting pushed by everyone really

if i had to make reads i would list gira at the bottom, but i also don't know how much i believe this

and i really don't qant to chop schweppes here anymore because if it comes down to me/him at eod this day won't end well

everything is a mess and i don't know what to fucking do

That's interesting, so you don't scumread Bereft? Or you don't think his scumread on you is in bad faith?

[Ranmilia]

- I don't know what I think about Robyn anymore. The things mac says are true or seem true. I have been disappointed in Robyn not really doing anything since we 'masoned' except going after Gira and Bereft. I don't know why their response to mac's pressure (in my eyes still only a moderate push, I've seen stronger from him) is so disproportionate. I don't know why they outed schweppes and insomnia's alts and I'd really like to understand that. I don't know why they think they survive to d2 now after going "smell ya later". I think mac is very town but if mac is right then robyn has pocketed me and what if mac is the one pocketing me.

- I want @pyxxy to post more. I'm not sure what I want them to post about. Literally anything, anyone. Come talk to me.

- TSP is a player who exists in this game.

this is less about post count and more about you not finding anything in my posts that you feel inspired to engage with, yeah?

More of that yes, and also Wind's read of you, which is the closest thing she has to a real scumread, and I am inclined to credit since I trust Wind quite a lot here and her account of the circumstances set off big alarm bells in my head. I've been letting it cook to now; the pot thus boils. Mac says you are polarized but doesn't have you obvious town. Gira has you mid, I had you mid and escaping my notice until Wind commented on you, no one's made any real overtures towards you or attacks on you. You should be in the hot seat here and you haven't been. Testify. Why are you town?

[leetic]

If this is true, there's a good chance they're ITP so I wouldn't trust them

In Thread Peasant

i'm sure that's what that means

Assuming you're not just being dense, Independent Third Party

You would be surprised to find that is incorrect

Then what the hell are you? And are other people gonna show up?

@Porscha how long are you going to be in this thread, if you may tell us

ded town and I dont know

I have 4 posts remaining for the night after this

Are you from the other thread/Discord chat/wherever the other fourteen are from? And did your side of the game have a nightstart?

And another question: is this ability unique to you or are we gonna see more people show up here in later phases?

[Porscha]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

Incidentally Porscha was in fact the 27th signup

If this is true, there's a good chance they're ITP so I wouldn't trust them

In Thread Peasant

i'm sure that's what that means

Assuming you're not just being dense, Independent Third Party

You would be surprised to find that is incorrect

Then what the hell are you? And are other people gonna show up?

@Porscha how long are you going to be in this thread, if you may tell us

ded town and I dont know

I have 4 posts remaining for the night after this

Are you from the other thread/Discord chat/wherever the other fourteen are from? And did your side of the game have a nightstart?

I think I am from the other side, but don't know anything else really, missed a lot of day

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

obligatory "wtf there is 30 pages post"

bet you guys wish you could vote me for it

Where the hell did you come from?

The deepeat darkest recesses of my motherfucking beain

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

Alteehatubrlotn and mirr likely they died in the other game by what do I know :3

[MacDougall]

Confident that these three are town

leetic
Ranmilia
WindwardAway

Firmly town

Gira
☆Princess Abigail☆

Slightly leaning town

Bereft
pyxxy

Slightly suspicious of this lot

TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon
Rondo

My POE

robyn
tedxtr

Do you think there is any indication that robyn and tedxtr may be partnered?

not necessarily

They're your two biggest wolfreads. Are there any interactions between the two that stand out?

Leetic let's face it I'm mafia and you already caught me and all these questions are just window dressing. I'm outed. You're a God. I surrender. I'm mafia because I didn't make world building reads already. That's a thing I get caught for. I can't believe I failed again. I should practice harder.

[leetic]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

Incidentally Porscha was in fact the 27th signup

In Thread Peasant

i'm sure that's what that means

Assuming you're not just being dense, Independent Third Party

You would be surprised to find that is incorrect

Then what the hell are you? And are other people gonna show up?

@Porscha how long are you going to be in this thread, if you may tell us

ded town and I dont know

I have 4 posts remaining for the night after this

Are you from the other thread/Discord chat/wherever the other fourteen are from? And did your side of the game have a nightstart?

I think I am from the other side, but don't know anything else really, missed a lot of day

Is there anything you can still do to influence the game?

[leetic]

Confident that these three are town

leetic
Ranmilia
WindwardAway

Firmly town

Gira
☆Princess Abigail☆

Slightly leaning town

Bereft
pyxxy

Slightly suspicious of this lot

TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon
Rondo

My POE

robyn
tedxtr

Do you think there is any indication that robyn and tedxtr may be partnered?

not necessarily

They're your two biggest wolfreads. Are there any interactions between the two that stand out?

Leetic let's face it I'm mafia and you already caught me and all these questions are just window dressing. I'm outed. You're a God. I surrender. I'm mafia because I didn't make world building reads already. That's a thing I get caught for. I can't believe I failed again. I should practice harder.

GG

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm a lottle drunk but like don't kill M e

[MacDougall]

Hey Porscha's arrival is actually good cuz she can confirm that all the reasons I say Robyn is mafia are valid. Hey Porscha read my ISO lol.

[leetic]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

Alteehatubrlotn and mirr likely they died in the other game by what do I know :3

English please.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I've decided I'm importasmd

[WindwardAway]

@MacDougall Can you explain like I'm 5 how you think Robyn has not been towny?

In Robyn I do not see someone who has an agenda to solve the mafia game, but I see someone who has an agenda to appear like they are town and mostly just charm people.

The feeling I get from town Robyn is usually one that is more anxious and concerned with figuring out what everyone is up to. Town Robyn by process ends up getting overtly emotional and irritated.

Mafia Robyn has more emotional control over themselves, and they often end up one step ahead of everyone. They are particularly good at pocketing people by saying specific things that are designed to achieve that goal. For instance Robyn is aware that I have a predisposition for townreading people for lack of TMI and pushing me. Robyn threatened to scumread me earlier for daring to suspect them. But then they didn't, and chose to give me space instead.

I can sense in all of our interactions that Robyn is largely holding their breath and just trying to avoid having me outright bury them. Since I started posting all that Robyn has really done is crack jokes and react.

i am town, mafia is not obvious here. other people are making content and leetic is badgering people. i am trying to figure out where i went wrong because i currently townread everyone... which is also why my reads are worthless as of now

i am not anxious of you figuring out my alignment, if you did that would be good. specifically i am anxious of being pushed by you, i'm anxious of getting pushed by everyone really

if i had to make reads i would list gira at the bottom, but i also don't know how much i believe this

and i really don't qant to chop schweppes here anymore because if it comes down to me/him at eod this day won't end well

everything is a mess and i don't know what to fucking do

It's difficult for me to take this seriously when I wrote this in the post you are quoting...

"Town Robyn by process ends up getting overtly emotional and irritated."

Like ... I don't know whether to presume that like clockwork you're just evidencing your town self or whether you are just taking advantage of the meta I've presented and trying to garner the townread. So I have no real choice but to just disregard it.

And you've asked me no real questions here, you've just made a series of statements that I have mixed feelings about.

Gira seems exceedingly obvious town to me, and having him your highest suspect (or lowest town) doesn't seem plausible.

I agree that chopping Schweppes is not appropriate but I also note that one of my other wolfreads TSP has the same opinion, so while it'd be reasonable to give you points for mind melding with me on this, all it's really doing is making me question whether Bereft is actually a wolf given Ran and WWA are my top town and are the only ones voting there.

And I'll end by saying that being chopped isn't the world's worst outcome, the day has some time yet to go and crumbling whether you are mafia or town is not necessary. Yank your socks up and play the game with us, try to keep the ATE to a min cuz I'm not going to respond to it and you know that I know even if you aren't faking it, you can just switch it off immediately, so do.

I'm still catching up but I will probably move off of Bereft. I think my goal was already achieved with that vote.

[MacDougall]

I assume Porscha was in the other thread but upon realising I wasn't there simply switched here cuz they have spooky powers or something.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

Alteehatubrlotn and mirr likely they died in the other game by what do I know :3

English please.

Its most likely she cane from thw other thesad

[pyxxy]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

If this is true, there's a good chance they're ITP so I wouldn't trust them

In Thread Peasant

i'm sure that's what that means

Assuming you're not just being dense, Independent Third Party

You would be surprised to find that is incorrect

Then what the hell are you? And are other people gonna show up?

@Porscha how long are you going to be in this thread, if you may tell us

ded town and I dont know

I have 4 posts remaining for the night after this

@Porscha how many people were wagons at EOD, if you maybe tell us? was it 3? and who, again if you may tell us?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

And I love porscga so be mice to her

[Porscha]

So I assume Porscha is the 27th player that isn't a part of either group? Or are more people gonna show up?

Incidentally Porscha was in fact the 27th signup

Assuming you're not just being dense, Independent Third Party

You would be surprised to find that is incorrect

Then what the hell are you? And are other people gonna show up?

@Porscha how long are you going to be in this thread, if you may tell us

ded town and I dont know

I have 4 posts remaining for the night after this

Are you from the other thread/Discord chat/wherever the other fourteen are from? And did your side of the game have a nightstart?

I think I am from the other side, but don't know anything else really, missed a lot of day

Is there anything you can still do to influence the game?

each night make 10 posts no more than 20 words each post

Hey Porscha's arrival is actually good cuz she can confirm that all the reasons I say Robyn is mafia are valid. Hey Porscha read my ISO lol.

yes confirmed but haven't seen robyn myself

[leetic]

I assume Porscha was in the other thread but upon realising I wasn't there simply switched here cuz they have spooky powers or something.

They claim to be "dead", whatever that means. Some sort of variant on the Tree Stump role? Also, Porscha, how did you "die"?