Severance [Evening Four]

[leetic]

the wagons were v/v, why's it matter who voted where lol

Do you think that all three wolves were on robyn?

[tedxtr]

the wagons were v/v, why's it matter who voted where lol

Do you think that all three wolves were on robyn?

i think vote analysis is useless on v/v wagons

why not push someone you think could be a wolf?

[Bereft]

the wagons were v/v, why's it matter who voted where lol

Do you think that all three wolves were on robyn?

Do you know how probability works?
Like come on, before it was just shouting about NAI things, but this is literally just a math issue.
Even if it were provably true that not all three wolves were on robyn, this is still nowhere enough to suggest the the offrobyn wagon is more lucrative.

[leetic]

the wagons were v/v, why's it matter who voted where lol

Do you think that all three wolves were on robyn?

i think vote analysis is useless on v/v wagons

why not push someone you think could be a wolf?

There are people who I think are wolves off the robyn wagon

And why do you think that all three wolves would have been on robyn? It would likely require multiple deepwolves if so

[leetic]

the wagons were v/v, why's it matter who voted where lol

Do you think that all three wolves were on robyn?

Do you know how probability works?
Like come on, before it was just shouting about NAI things, but this is literally just a math issue.
Even if it were provably true that not all three wolves were on robyn, this is still nowhere enough to suggest the the offrobyn wagon is more lucrative.

It is, because even if only one wolf is off robyn, 5/7 of living robyn voters are town as opposed to 3/4 of living off robyn voters, and 3/4 is smaller than 5/7. That's not even counting the possibility of multiple wolves off robyn.

[leetic]

the wagons were v/v, why's it matter who voted where lol

Do you think that all three wolves were on robyn?

Do you know how probability works?
Like come on, before it was just shouting about NAI things, but this is literally just a math issue.
Even if it were provably true that not all three wolves were on robyn, this is still nowhere enough to suggest the the offrobyn wagon is more lucrative.

It is, because even if only one wolf is off robyn, 5/7 of living robyn voters are town as opposed to 3/4 of living off robyn voters, and 3/4 is smaller than 5/7. That's not even counting the possibility of multiple wolves off robyn.

Scratch that, 5/7 is smaller, but 5 is still a larger number than three thus there are more possibilities of that going wrong in practice. Plus, you know, the possibility of multiple wolves off robyn, which still stands.

[Bereft]

3/4 > 5/7

finally, an application of mathematics to real-life

anyways i should stop because this is irrelevant to the point which is that your wolfreads dont seem to have any substance, and i am still against voting rondo off

[leetic]

3/4 > 5/7

finally, an application of mathematics to real-life

anyways i should stop because this is irrelevant to the point which is that your wolfreads dont seem to have any substance, and i am still against voting rondo off

Why? Almost nothing they posted has any real substance

[leetic]

While only lynching inactive players may be annoying, people giving inactive players a free pass for doing absolutely nothing is even more annoying

[leetic]

And I also think to some extent sheeping Mac is justified. Unless wolves think they caught a PR soft or something, the first nightkill usually got at least something right

[Bereft]

I thought D1 was perfectly fine but to your credit, Rondo has spent the entirety of today making excuses for inactivity.

I have my own thoughts.tm about eod yesterday but I am going to wait to see how today pans out before I reveal them

[Bereft]

just kill this guy asap after robyn and give me all cred

and if robyn is wolf, kill dizzy

If Robyn is wolf Rondo looks much worse. If Robyn is town I think he looks quite decent.

I cant say sheeping Mac makes much sense as a reason because unfortunately this is was relatively close to EoD, and I don't know what the correct interpretation of mac's last-minute flip-flop is.

If you ask me, w!Rondo kills mac because he realizes he doesn't have the time or energy to keep fooling mac.

[leetic]

I don't see there being more than one wolf in Gira/Ranmilia/Windward, mainly because the early congregation/parking on the robyn wagon would be really weird if two or more were wolves.

[Bereft]

I don't either but for completely unrelated reasons to whether they were voting robyn together at the same time or not.

In particular, WWA's vote on robyn strikes me as completely disconnected from basically all of the other suspicion on robyn.
Also wait, Ranmilia didn't park early on robyn? That wouldn't make sense since Ran was robyn's strongest advocate early on.

[Bereft]

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

[leetic]

I don't either but for completely unrelated reasons to whether they were voting robyn together at the same time or not.

In particular, WWA's vote on robyn strikes me as completely disconnected from basically all of the other suspicion on robyn.
Also wait, Ranmilia didn't park early on robyn? That wouldn't make sense since Ran was robyn's strongest advocate early on.

They were part of the "original 5" robyn voters, who were parked for half the phase (though I think Windward left briefly). I'll have to look back though

[leetic]

I mean we don't technically have to consolidate Right Now, but we do need to do it and no time like the present. Bereft was already the spiritual vote, I think that was going unspoken, but I keep on learning that things I think are obvious and going unspoken do in fact need to be spoken.

I do not agree to the bereft vote. Schweppes is a terrible day 1.

Terrible?

Yes Schweppes in particular is a bad idea to be chopping day 1. He's an easy target when he gets into this mode, there is a towniness underneath the surface if you bother trying to read into what he's been saying and he gets better as the game goes on. If he's mafia his team are already positioned to extract max value from his demise, if he's town the mafia are already dining out on the clout from it. It's not my spiritual vote and shouldn't be anybody's.

The reasons that you might want to eliminate Bereft are well within his range as town, there is nothing wolf alignment indicative about him yet. He's at best null, and to me, slightly townie.

Well, that ain't what you said about him last night, and his content hasn't changed at all. (And yes I read in.) So the difference here is that you didn't know Bereft was Schweppes. So this is a "doing nothing is within their townrange" meta read and... i am really not a fan of those, i actually think those are wrong more often than not...

On the other hand.

[VOTE: Robyn] aubergine

@robyn You. Come back. Explain.

Well, here's the vote. A little later than I remember but still parked for almost half the phase.

[Bereft]

Oh that explains why robyn flipped the $%#! out then perfectly.

[Bereft]

In case this needs saying, I am voting Rondo if wagons are dizzy/rondo at EoD assuming I remember to check back in this time.

Frankly, Rondo should simply post.

[Dyslexicon]

the wagons were v/v, why's it matter who voted where lol

Do you think that all three wolves were on robyn?

All three wolves?

[leetic]

the wagons were v/v, why's it matter who voted where lol

Do you think that all three wolves were on robyn?

All three wolves?

Unlikely to be four, as not everyone has a PR, and not likely to be two, as there are no signs of hostile independents. Three is an assumption but is by far the most likely scenario, and I don't want to have to type out "the assumed three wolves" every time

[leetic]

Also, your only real contribution this phase being a lame jump isn't the greatest sign.

[Dyslexicon]

Meh.

Have fun ig

[Gira]

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

[Gira]

if i got to bereft town without actually bothering to understand *what* he was saying that feels like a sick read

maybe some greater truth about mafia where you do not need to concern yourself with what a persons actual reads are just how they're doing things

i also think leetic characterizing bereft's posts as filler is dreadfully wrong, i don't know that it's AI per se as they could just be being a stick in the mud but it's inaccurate nonetheless

[Gira]

my legacy is chop leetic

I believed it was town leetic at the start bc the energy was the same

but now the _direction_ is gone

they're sheeping the rondo scumread and sheeping scumreading me in a way that I don't find omgus

I think it's scum letting town do the dirty work

pce

so tbh, like

i liked this from pyxxy at the time as it felt like an independent thought

but where did this go today? is there any followthrough? there hasn't been. he's just lazily slipped along onto the dizzy vote, which is probably a misyeet, and showing no signs of investigating elsewhere. doesn't feel like he *actually* scumreads leetic

probs a wolf

[RondoDimBuckle]

fuck fuck fuckity shit fuck, I came home and sat down for a bit and then fell asleep immediately and I knew If I didnt start posting last night someone was going to try to push me and make me a wagon today. I have another +1 vote against me so I am top wagon right now. I am going to have to self pres [VOTE: dyslexicon ] aubergine while I catch up

[RondoDimBuckle]

I thought D1 was perfectly fine but to your credit, Rondo has spent the entirety of today making excuses for inactivity.

I have my own thoughts.tm about eod yesterday but I am going to wait to see how today pans out before I reveal them

Yeah, my weekends are usually packed Its not so much excuses as informing you all what my availability looks like so when people say "Rondo hasnt posted all day" its not out of nowhere and not like I am ghosting thread

[RondoDimBuckle]

@Bereft you can actually play the game now

@RondoDimBuckle im not a wolf, please give other reads

@abi you can actually play the game now

well you seem to be voting me right now so -ev but I am about to look into everything

[RondoDimBuckle]

fuck me how do we have almost 60 pagesin 2 day phases. 30 pages a day by 13? people means 50 posts per person... actually thats not that bad

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am exhausted and most likely sunburnt just popping in to pop out. Going for dinner then if I can resist drinking Honey mead with another friend late into the night I will be back

Spoiler: show

I'll be back, as much as I want to go get blind on mead I committed to this

Got another secret vote?

How did you know?

[leetic]

I am exhausted and most likely sunburnt just popping in to pop out. Going for dinner then if I can resist drinking Honey mead with another friend late into the night I will be back

Spoiler: show

I'll be back, as much as I want to go get blind on mead I committed to this

Got another secret vote?

How did you know?

Why didn't you claim earlier?

[RondoDimBuckle]

It's @RondoDimBuckle this time who's last to vote (even if TSP is on a hedge option). RDB, why?

What?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am exhausted and most likely sunburnt just popping in to pop out. Going for dinner then if I can resist drinking Honey mead with another friend late into the night I will be back

Spoiler: show

I'll be back, as much as I want to go get blind on mead I committed to this

Got another secret vote?

How did you know?

Why didn't you claim earlier?

Its the only mech I have so I wanted to play around it

[leetic]

It's @RondoDimBuckle this time who's last to vote (even if TSP is on a hedge option). RDB, why?

What?

Well, it's technically Dyslexicon, but forgive me for not noticing 'cause they're barely playin'

[leetic]

So it could be a coincidence, but there is a possibility that three secret votes is a constant. RDB getting it twice in a row is interesting.

[leetic]

So it could be a coincidence, but there is a possibility that three secret votes is a constant. RDB getting it twice in a row is interesting.

And of course, that assumes that no wolves are lying here. Could RDB have lied when they weren't caught up? Perhaps someone in wolfchat tipped them off?

[Gira]

So it could be a coincidence, but there is a possibility that three secret votes is a constant. RDB getting it twice in a row is interesting.

And of course, that assumes that no wolves are lying here. Could RDB have lied when they weren't caught up? Perhaps someone in wolfchat tipped them off?

i mean, sure, he could have, but to what end?

imo he's prob telling the truth regardless of alignment

[RondoDimBuckle]

I fucking hate that both leetic and ted are on me since they are the same people from yesterday.

Actually. Fuck it, I am just going to slap a town read on them because no wolf would dumbass push me 2 days in a row with no evidence other than just my low hanging fruitness when other people in thread are more familiar with me so Ted/Leetic just town

I dont know what to make of TSP here so out of the 3 I would have to put him as the wolf

Then we have Ranmi/WWA/Pyxxy and me. I know I am town. WWA has been my only lifeline so gonna town her. I dont know about the other two but now I have TSP + Ranmi/Pyxxy + Bereft/Gira/Neon

So FMPoV Neon is super unpredictable but she has been covering me too and Gira was one of the three pushing me day 1 that isnt today so 100% on Gira in this group.

So It has to be

A) TSP / Ranmi / Gira
B) TSP / Pyxxy / Gira

Is it 3 or 4 wolves? if its 4 Dizzy on the end, no vote atm. Probably going to save himself by voting me.

Is there any reason why the below makes no sense?

A) TSP / Ranmi / Gira / Dizzy
B) TSP / Pyxxy / Gira / Dizzy

[Gira]

dunno bro help me bus pyxxy

[leetic]

The accurate vote count right now is Dizzy 4, RDB 4, pyxxy 2, Windward 1, TSP 1 (assuming all secret votes are legit)

[RondoDimBuckle]

So it could be a coincidence, but there is a possibility that three secret votes is a constant. RDB getting it twice in a row is interesting.

I was honestly happy to get it yestrday bcause I am fine with a wagon of 3 or less but as soon as it hits 4 thats when I actually consider it viable. I thought since I had it yesterday the extra vote mechanic would pass me over for the rest of the game and I could come in d3 swinging. 2 days in a row has really shit me off

[RondoDimBuckle]

So it could be a coincidence, but there is a possibility that three secret votes is a constant. RDB getting it twice in a row is interesting.

And of course, that assumes that no wolves are lying here. Could RDB have lied when they weren't caught up? Perhaps someone in wolfchat tipped them off?

I would love to have had a wolf chat this game because then at least I would have something useful to say on catchups that would help me out.

[leetic]

I fucking hate that both leetic and ted are on me since they are the same people from yesterday.

Actually. Fuck it, I am just going to slap a town read on them because no wolf would dumbass push me 2 days in a row with no evidence other than just my low hanging fruitness when other people in thread are more familiar with me so Ted/Leetic just town

I dont know what to make of TSP here so out of the 3 I would have to put him as the wolf

Then we have Ranmi/WWA/Pyxxy and me. I know I am town. WWA has been my only lifeline so gonna town her. I dont know about the other two but now I have TSP + Ranmi/Pyxxy + Bereft/Gira/Neon

So FMPoV Neon is super unpredictable but she has been covering me too and Gira was one of the three pushing me day 1 that isnt today so 100% on Gira in this group.

So It has to be

A) TSP / Ranmi / Gira
B) TSP / Pyxxy / Gira

Is it 3 or 4 wolves? if its 4 Dizzy on the end, no vote atm. Probably going to save himself by voting me.

Is there any reason why the below makes no sense?

A) TSP / Ranmi / Gira / Dizzy
B) TSP / Pyxxy / Gira / Dizzy

Why would Ranmilia/Gira stay parked on robyn so long if they're w/w and why would TSP feel the need to join soon afterward?

Also, tedxtr has a PR claim, probably should keep that in mind

[RondoDimBuckle]

So it could be a coincidence, but there is a possibility that three secret votes is a constant. RDB getting it twice in a row is interesting.

And of course, that assumes that no wolves are lying here. Could RDB have lied when they weren't caught up? Perhaps someone in wolfchat tipped them off?

i mean, sure, he could have, but to what end?

imo he's prob telling the truth regardless of alignment

Why arent you pushing me today?

[RondoDimBuckle]

dunno bro help me bus pyxxy

make pyxxy viable and I would happily vote him

[leetic]

I guess RDB being more caught up if they're a wolf is a decent thought, even if there's nothing so far that's hard to fake

[RondoDimBuckle]

I fucking hate that both leetic and ted are on me since they are the same people from yesterday.

Actually. Fuck it, I am just going to slap a town read on them because no wolf would dumbass push me 2 days in a row with no evidence other than just my low hanging fruitness when other people in thread are more familiar with me so Ted/Leetic just town

I dont know what to make of TSP here so out of the 3 I would have to put him as the wolf

Then we have Ranmi/WWA/Pyxxy and me. I know I am town. WWA has been my only lifeline so gonna town her. I dont know about the other two but now I have TSP + Ranmi/Pyxxy + Bereft/Gira/Neon

So FMPoV Neon is super unpredictable but she has been covering me too and Gira was one of the three pushing me day 1 that isnt today so 100% on Gira in this group.

So It has to be

A) TSP / Ranmi / Gira
B) TSP / Pyxxy / Gira

Is it 3 or 4 wolves? if its 4 Dizzy on the end, no vote atm. Probably going to save himself by voting me.

Is there any reason why the below makes no sense?

A) TSP / Ranmi / Gira / Dizzy
B) TSP / Pyxxy / Gira / Dizzy

Why would Ranmilia/Gira stay parked on robyn so long if they're w/w and why would TSP feel the need to join soon afterward?

Also, tedxtr has a PR claim, probably should keep that in mind

can you find the vote found for me for what you're talking about?

Ah, well that makes sense why my push yesterday made him arc up so hard. I thought I had hit a nerve

[WindwardAway]

I have my energies absorbed by the family gathering, nothing seems to be occurring back at home, frankly I'm not being of much use anywhere in either place, so I'm going to stop making it complicated on the homefront.

I mentally take the tabasco bottle and place it over the bin. I expect myself to drop it but I don't. Why am I not dropping it?
I note that is the brick, cigarette, sword, and the disco ball that have pitchforks out for the kewpie doll.

It's over isn't it?

~ Bereft

You think dizzy is town, right?

[leetic]

dunno bro help me bus pyxxy

make pyxxy viable and I would happily vote him

What's your obsession with voting for someone "viable"? It's not like you're doin' that right now