Severance [Evening Four]

[Gira]

also also, i saw someone mention another thread?

read the signups, 27 people signed to play but there are only 13 in the thread, everyone ITG is severed. there is a work thread but we cannot see it. porscha was the D1 elim in the work thread and can post here.

[tedxtr]

is there any compelling reason to not lunch pyxxy?

[Gira]

i think someone that has the time / is willing, should check his push on abi

i remember it being pretty sketchy

dunno was going to entertain the possibility of it being classic tsp tmi

i'm feeling slightly spicy today, the level 0 solve is pyxxy/dizzy but i don't think that's it so am considering other people

[Gira]

is there any compelling reason to not lunch pyxxy?

i kinda think he's being towny? maybe? i know that's not a lot it's just that his protests have reached me

[Gira]

now to touch on an NAI subject that is potentially interesting, has anyone noticed that it's just half the game playing?

i want some brainstorming on what that means cuz we couldn't figure out in wolfchat


i think this is the sort of topic that should be discussed in a d0

Tell wolfchat to play the game, lol

Jokes aside, isn't it because it's still D0? People will probably trickle in by the time the game actually starts, especially since we're just over 12 hours into the pregame phase and I'd expect that not everyone has gotten the chance to check in yet. So, I get what you mean, but I don't think it's particularly unusual at this point in time.

no, i mean, the game has 26 players. and only 13 were tagged here

there is no other thread. i wonder if they can see ours

i think some flavor mechanic might be in play, but idk since i've never watched this show. or whatever it is

Wait. Wtf.

fake + L + ratio

True we have a joint scum chat and already knew this we were just hoping you wouldn't figure it out

[Gira]

Idk don’t make much of it

Do you still have Dyslexicon and Abby as wolfreads or have your views changed in light of the flip?

I think Dizzy looks maybe marginally better from the vote dip, Abby looks bad still

What about Dizzy's parked vote looks good? And can you elaborate on your read of Abby?

The atmosphere around the Robyn push shifted a lot, for Dizzy as a wolf to drop the vote in that manner would require in my mind maybe an unreasonable amount of foresight. This is somewhat of a bad explanation but I just think like it’s not an indicator of agenda. Then again, Dizzy is a good wolf and maybe knows Mac well enough to figure it out.

I don’t think Abby has contributed to the goals of the town in this game and moreover has received little attention and just occasionally some spare defenders saying “read her iso” (which ok I haven’t done). Granted we haven’t launched any wolves so no one has exactly contributed much. I also think it’s bizarre that people keep treating it like it’s a bad push. Like ??? No one has offered a concrete reason that Abby is towny, besides possibly if someone wants to make a spew read.

bolded feels like a thing wolves say when they know they are pushing another wolf /shrug

[Gira]

Why are there votes on all the standarx potential day 1 mischops except Abigail? Therefore I conclude

Since when I'm a day 1 misece I haven't been miskilled Day 1 in like forever

[Gira]

Spoiler: show

I remembered Neon’s play being qualitatively different from what I’m seeing here in the only game I remember playing with them but they were a wolf in hot dog and so that reason is faltering

I still think that’s a good spot to look

Explain what's diff

Ok Abigail is probably town

What changed

I remembered Neon’s play being qualitatively different from what I’m seeing here in the only game I remember playing with them but they were a wolf in hot dog and so that reason is faltering

I still think that’s a good spot to look

Explain what's diff

You had an edge about you in hot dog that you lack here, more game content and AtE (which granted, not allowed here)

AtE bit being allowed had never stopped me before

I am townd though

meh. i won't say this is damning but it's tepid and i certainly wouldn't clear for it

[leetic]

okay read dizzy, tsp. here is where Im at:

town:
pyxxy
leetic
ran

not sure:
princess abigail
bereft

mafia:
ted
gira

this will likely swing a bit as I get more information. Gotta go to work though, see yall later today!

Why Gira wolf?

[Gira]

Also I meant to post this yesterday

Spoiler: show

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Dyslexicon definitely stands out as the least TR-able of the early robyn voters. It's definitely a good blend-in vote.

Why? Can I get your review on all the d1 voters on Robyn?

The others were consensus townreads, Dyslexicon wasn't, plus they were a lot less vocal than the others so they definitely stand out in the list. I'm not sure the exact order, but if they were fifth I don't necessarily see wolves making that vote so early unless it was to protect ted or something. But again, I'll look at things more closely in a bit.

I believe the extra vote on Robyn happened before I voted them, and I think I was third on the list (could've been fourth, though, I was definitely in the middle)

The thing that concerns me about the robyn wagon is how quickly it ran off after I voted and brought the wagons relatively close to each other

I do kinda think this implies T v S and I think that pyxxy can be wolf who decides to vote a town off wagon instead of their teammate who's the CW and relatively safe at that stage

unaligning with pyxxy imo

yes it's just on post at a time when all 33 scum are alive but it doesn't feel characteristic of a bus to me

[Gira]

Spoiler: show

And the flop on Robyn geez

Could it be that Mac was killed because he was wrong, not because he was right?

well now I’m sitting on Gira / ran / X yeah

Abby is just in the archetype of people I like to suspect [is the reality of it]

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Just look at this. There is no universe town TSP comes in to this day and believes and says these things.

Agreed [VOTE: TSP] aubergine

I was just about to call you town

Nah you’re still yown

Do you still have Dyslexicon and Abby as wolfreads or have your views changed in light of the flip?

I think Dizzy looks maybe marginally better from the vote dip, Abby looks bad still

What about Dizzy's parked vote looks good? And can you elaborate on your read of Abby?

The atmosphere around the Robyn push shifted a lot, for Dizzy as a wolf to drop the vote in that manner would require in my mind maybe an unreasonable amount of foresight. This is somewhat of a bad explanation but I just think like it’s not an indicator of agenda. Then again, Dizzy is a good wolf and maybe knows Mac well enough to figure it out.

I don’t think Abby has contributed to the goals of the town in this game and moreover has received little attention and just occasionally some spare defenders saying “read her iso” (which ok I haven’t done). Granted we haven’t launched any wolves so no one has exactly contributed much. I also think it’s bizarre that people keep treating it like it’s a bad push. Like ??? No one has offered a concrete reason that Abby is towny, besides possibly if someone wants to make a spew read.

I think she actually put effort into solving the game early on
I'll see if that actually holds up but that was my reason for thinking Abbi is town

I think before I got drunk I was very much obvious town

Ok you’re not town again

Nah you’re still yown

Correct

You were the CW to Robyn right? I'm not high?

Nah you’re still yown

Correct

You were the CW to Robyn right? I'm not high?

No it was Ted

Anyone who thinks they can be very obvious town on day 1 is an egotist and we should kill all of them

Go ahead kill me bb

I'm not hard to read. Mac figured me out in 5 seconds.

Nah you’re still yown

Correct

You were the CW to Robyn right? I'm not high?

No it was Ted

Oops that's who I want dead my b

[VOTE: Ted] aubergine

looks pretty awful actually

[Gira]

And the flop on Robyn geez

Could it be that Mac was killed because he was wrong, not because he was right?

well now I’m sitting on Gira / ran / X yeah

Abby is just in the archetype of people I like to suspect [is the reality of it]

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Just look at this. There is no universe town TSP comes in to this day and believes and says these things.

Agreed [VOTE: TSP] aubergine

nothing vote with no followthrough can v v v easily be a bus vote

(I meant to post this before #3561 but left it in preview)

[Gira]

i'm just assuming made has not fully caught up because if you read how tsp reacted to me flipping out on him that is never ever scum/scum

[Gira]

Okay after catch up report card

Lawful Good: Ranmilia, DubzDimBuckle, WWA

Chaotic Good: Princess Abigail, Gira, Bereft, Leetic

True Neutral: Dizzy, TSP

Lawful Evil: Pyxxy

Chaotic Evil: Ted


Ordered within tiers

Leetic is dropping for me. Schweppes is rising.

Lawful Goods are locked in and I'm willing to bet the game on it.

Ran, WWA, Rondo want to mason?

I actually think Ted > Pyx > Dizzy/TSP just wins tbh

Some tinfoil on Gira Bereft Leetic though

wolfy

[Gira]

Meh I think it's a coin flip if dizzy is wolf and we should kill someone better

Like Ted

Meh I think it's a coin flip if dizzy is wolf and we should kill someone better

Like Ted

cuz im certainly not a coinflip

In my opinion your not

And you've actually been present

Not really looking to flip two straight AFKs just cause they are AFKs and have them both flip town which at this point is pretty 50/50

feels like performative distancing from an afk chop most of the thread was gravitating toward. no actual coherent reasoning for suspecting ted.

[Gira]

[VOTE: abigail] aubergine

i think in particular her and tsp halfassed voting each other feels more likely partnered than anything else and the way she defends people feels informed

[Made]

also also, i saw someone mention another thread?

read the signups, 27 people signed to play but there are only 13 in the thread, everyone ITG is severed. there is a work thread but we cannot see it. porscha was the D1 elim in the work thread and can post here.

wait… THATS SO COOL!!

I swear if other me gets me killed

[Made]

Okay after catch up report card

Lawful Good: Ranmilia, DubzDimBuckle, WWA

Chaotic Good: Princess Abigail, Gira, Bereft, Leetic

True Neutral: Dizzy, TSP

Lawful Evil: Pyxxy

Chaotic Evil: Ted


Ordered within tiers

Leetic is dropping for me. Schweppes is rising.

Lawful Goods are locked in and I'm willing to bet the game on it.

Ran, WWA, Rondo want to mason?

I actually think Ted > Pyx > Dizzy/TSP just wins tbh

Some tinfoil on Gira Bereft Leetic though

wolfy

if not ted then not gira
if ted then gira
if abigail then not gira
if gira then not abigail
if not ted then

Do any players look scummy if ted is town? thread temperature makes him feel VERY scum, so trying to sus if tmi, busing, or scum pushing over someone else

also who is schweepes

also also apologies in advance imma be a bit of an incoherent bull in a china shop till i get my head around things. Ill try to nvm post if/as opinions change

swap gira to null and abigail to scum

[Jackofhearts2005]

[Made]

to say my sus on abigail explicitly, the Ted>pyx>dizzy feels like a roadmap for a baddie win before it feels like an honest read

[Made]

wait, who invited jack?

[Made]

actually, gira lol town?

[Made]

[VOTE: abigail] aubergine
fuck it we ball

[leetic]

Okay after catch up report card

Lawful Good: Ranmilia, DubzDimBuckle, WWA

Chaotic Good: Princess Abigail, Gira, Bereft, Leetic

True Neutral: Dizzy, TSP

Lawful Evil: Pyxxy

Chaotic Evil: Ted


Ordered within tiers

Leetic is dropping for me. Schweppes is rising.

Lawful Goods are locked in and I'm willing to bet the game on it.

Ran, WWA, Rondo want to mason?

I actually think Ted > Pyx > Dizzy/TSP just wins tbh

Some tinfoil on Gira Bereft Leetic though

wolfy

if not ted then not gira
if ted then gira
if abigail then not gira
if gira then not abigail
if not ted then

Do any players look scummy if ted is town? thread temperature makes him feel VERY scum, so trying to sus if tmi, busing, or scum pushing over someone else

also who is schweepes

also also apologies in advance imma be a bit of an incoherent bull in a china shop till i get my head around things. Ill try to nvm post if/as opinions change

swap gira to null and abigail to scum

Are you considering ted's PR claim?

[Made]

Okay after catch up report card

Lawful Good: Ranmilia, DubzDimBuckle, WWA

Chaotic Good: Princess Abigail, Gira, Bereft, Leetic

True Neutral: Dizzy, TSP

Lawful Evil: Pyxxy

Chaotic Evil: Ted


Ordered within tiers

Leetic is dropping for me. Schweppes is rising.

Lawful Goods are locked in and I'm willing to bet the game on it.

Ran, WWA, Rondo want to mason?

I actually think Ted > Pyx > Dizzy/TSP just wins tbh

Some tinfoil on Gira Bereft Leetic though

wolfy

if not ted then not gira
if ted then gira
if abigail then not gira
if gira then not abigail
if not ted then

Do any players look scummy if ted is town? thread temperature makes him feel VERY scum, so trying to sus if tmi, busing, or scum pushing over someone else

also who is schweepes

also also apologies in advance imma be a bit of an incoherent bull in a china shop till i get my head around things. Ill try to nvm post if/as opinions change

swap gira to null and abigail to scum

Are you considering ted's PR claim?

ik there is one, but i dont know what the claim is, and i dont think it matters too much because
1. thread is talking about it so im assuming its not provable (yet)
2. if i recall what i read is his claim is he was a two shot that’s spent, no reason for scum to kill him quickly

[tedxtr]

so, my top problems with pyxxy are the following poasts

if dizzy flip scum

am I smoking major weed to think that gives ran wolf equity?

not even sure I'm using that phrase right :/

i think this is 2 villas and it's an easy way to keep the heat on dizzy, engage in more "dizzy wolf" talk but by way of a weird association rather than their poasting

my legacy is chop leetic

I believed it was town leetic at the start bc the energy was the same

but now the _direction_ is gone

they're sheeping the rondo scumread and sheeping scumreading me in a way that I don't find omgus

I think it's scum letting town do the dirty work

pce

and this, because it looks like a post a wolf would make with v/v lhf standard d1 wagons. push on some spicy target to have reason to not comment on the obvious lunch targets

and after this, they just limply dropped on any heavy pushes. they took leetic's soft as law and went on to do some vca to land on dizzy and only now is tunneling ran. which is incredibly easy to do given ran has a goldmine of posts that look bad given tsp's flip

[tedxtr]

other than this, their interactions with tsp are pretty soft, along with asking some questions that don't really seem like they actually wanna reach for a fruitful answer out of them

[tedxtr]

i think my issue with pyxxy's second post is that it came at -1 minute from lunch

like why not just say that out loud / push it until then?

i've read their iso looking for a leetic progression, and it looks like they were "fine" voting robyn and i, place a naked vote on leetic at some point when we were the wagons, accuse him of dipping when the mystery votes were announced (lol) and then make that grand post at EoD

i think this timing coming only at literally EoD is to set up their agenda in the following days. one of robyn / i would flip, so pyxxy would need to focus on somebody else for the following days

[tedxtr]

i rarely read enough on thesyndicate.com to have any important takes, but i'd probably never kill rondo

and it's hard to lock this in, but i didn't feel bad about dizzy either. the only reason i was pushing dizzy / rondo was cuz i didn't have enough time to look for others cuz y'all had a million posts

i guess? bereft could be the deepwolf in a world where ran / gira are both villas

and leetic just makes sense as a villa PR. numbers wise it checks out but LOL speculating that given the weirdness of the mechs in this game. yes, i agree he lacks "direction" and whatnot but i can't imagine lunching him til lunchlo at the least

[tedxtr]

[VOTE: pyxxy ] aubergine

[tedxtr]

abi and tsp's back and forth on p45 seems p pure to me lol

meaning not w/w, just surface level

[pyxxy]

so we still lunching pyxxy?

i was about to ask where your head was at honestly

bad person to ask

maybe there’s a 5% chance i actually try hard

ted u said u weren't gonna tryhard >:(

[pyxxy]

also

good morning everyone

[tedxtr]

so we still lunching pyxxy?

i was about to ask where your head was at honestly

bad person to ask

maybe there’s a 5% chance i actually try hard

ted u said u weren't gonna tryhard >:(

don't have to worry, that's probably the most i'll be doing

but that's not really tryharding. i play on syndicate to chill

[tedxtr]

here's the kicker, if someone can read with more attention than i have and provide a compelling reason for pyxxy v, i might even read another iso

woooooooaaaaaah

[pyxxy]

so, my top problems with pyxxy are the following poasts

if dizzy flip scum

am I smoking major weed to think that gives ran wolf equity?

not even sure I'm using that phrase right :/

i think this is 2 villas and it's an easy way to keep the heat on dizzy, engage in more "dizzy wolf" talk but by way of a weird association rather than their poasting

my legacy is chop leetic

I believed it was town leetic at the start bc the energy was the same

but now the _direction_ is gone

they're sheeping the rondo scumread and sheeping scumreading me in a way that I don't find omgus

I think it's scum letting town do the dirty work

pce

and this, because it looks like a post a wolf would make with v/v lhf standard d1 wagons. push on some spicy target to have reason to not comment on the obvious lunch targets

and after this, they just limply dropped on any heavy pushes. they took leetic's soft as law and went on to do some vca to land on dizzy and only now is tunneling ran. which is incredibly easy to do given ran has a goldmine of posts that look bad given tsp's flip

1. okay

2. they were posting different and I had just played a game with them. so then leetic letting us know why with the texture of the world's cheapest toilet paper lined up with me sussing them D1. ez math. I stand by the D1 read and legacy.

3. idk how you can quote me solving D2 to start this post and ignore all the posts around it where I talk about Ran Wind and TSP. You're doing the leetic thing where me having a different worldview than you disqualifies my solving.

and I'm off Ran _btw_

[tedxtr]

and I'm off Ran _btw_

see, here's my problem

fypov, if it's not ran, then who is it?

bereft? abi, i guess? but you villa read both, rite?

[tedxtr]

You're doing the leetic thing where me having a different worldview than you disqualifies my solving.

wat

where am i doing that, lol

[pyxxy]

You're doing the leetic thing where me having a different worldview than you disqualifies my solving.

wat

where am i doing that, lol

the dizzy weed section of my ISO from yesterday, idk I can get sensitive because people always accuse me of IIOA and not following up on questions and it's like, I actually tried to think about things for once (for legal reasons this is a joke)

I honestly am beginning to think that it's just a meta read on me that has permeated into the soil of The Syndicate rather than any single person actually having the read that I'm fluff posting or not solving

[tedxtr]

i have 0 meta on you

[pyxxy]

and I'm off Ran _btw_

see, here's my problem

fypov, if it's not ran, then who is it?

bereft? abi, i guess? but you villa read both, rite?

I landed at a similar conclusion last night

anyway to summarize and validate anyone wanting to skip my posts today

Bereft
Dubz / RondoDimBuckle
Dyslexicon / Made
Gira
leetic
☆Princess Abigail☆
pyxxy
Ranmilia
tedxtr

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abi+rondubz+ran stone carving club
leetic+ted PR safety zone

Bereft, DysMade, Gira, pyxxy

I tr Bereft and Gira for how they voted for me yesterday

so I'm stuck but need at least an idea of where I can solve past dizzy in this world, because I think this world is good for town

[pyxxy]

i have 0 meta on you

It's in the soil, Ted!

[tedxtr]

though if you want me to bring meta up, you had no issue interacting with your suspicion back and forth in summer shit game (camilla on d1), and in here you avoided interacting with leetic altogether.

... and dropping the case when it's impossible to interact with it / read leetic's reaction on it

[pyxxy]

have you considered that interacting with leetic can be a taxing enterprise

[pyxxy]

[affectionate]

[tedxtr]

have you considered that interacting with leetic can be a taxing enterprise

i doubt a villa cares for that, if you are genuinely wanting to read him

but maybe im wrong /shrug

[pyxxy]

have you considered that interacting with leetic can be a taxing enterprise

i doubt a villa cares for that, if you are genuinely wanting to read him

but maybe im wrong /shrug

idk friend like even just look at my conversations with leetic during this day phase and I think it's clear why I was happy to use the soft as an excuse to give us both a break

[leetic]

have you considered that interacting with leetic can be a taxing enterprise

i doubt a villa cares for that, if you are genuinely wanting to read him

but maybe im wrong /shrug

idk friend like even just look at my conversations with leetic during this day phase and I think it's clear why I was happy to use the soft as an excuse to give us both a break

But you were basically ignoring me D1, were you not? I think I even called you out on it a few times.

[leetic]

have you considered that interacting with leetic can be a taxing enterprise

i doubt a villa cares for that, if you are genuinely wanting to read him

but maybe im wrong /shrug

And how about a question for you: if you had a third shot, who would you use it on?

[pyxxy]

have you considered that interacting with leetic can be a taxing enterprise

i doubt a villa cares for that, if you are genuinely wanting to read him

but maybe im wrong /shrug

idk friend like even just look at my conversations with leetic during this day phase and I think it's clear why I was happy to use the soft as an excuse to give us both a break

But you were basically ignoring me D1, were you not? I think I even called you out on it a few times.

pretty sure I did it D1 and D2 when I wasn't feeling like I would write nice things