Ted Lasso Mafia - game over!

[Bereft]

J³ showed up late.
You're a loose cannon who has somehow failed to understand what is going on.
Nobody agrees on reads at all.

I dont think I have failed, I just dont agree

I see nothing in that fancy post of yours that's an explanation of disagreement.

And even if you don't believe Robyn, then believe me.

Cape's town, and I didn't use magic to come to this conclusion.

[Bereft]

The funniest part is that Cape's slot is not even pivotal.

There are so many other pressing slots, and you're still talking about Cape.

[RondoDimBuckle]

J³ showed up late.
You're a loose cannon who has somehow failed to understand what is going on.
Nobody agrees on reads at all.

I dont think I have failed, I just dont agree

I see nothing in that fancy post of yours that's an explanation of disagreement.

And even if you don't believe Robyn, then believe me.

Cape's town, and I didn't use magic to come to this conclusion.

Yet again no case for why he is town just that he is. And once again I will discard it

[RondoDimBuckle]

The funniest part is that Cape's slot is not even pivotal.

There are so many other pressing slots, and you're still talking about Cape.

No you're talking about cape. I am talking about JJJ and Thunal

[Bereft]

J³ showed up late.
You're a loose cannon who has somehow failed to understand what is going on.
Nobody agrees on reads at all.

I dont think I have failed, I just dont agree

I see nothing in that fancy post of yours that's an explanation of disagreement.

And even if you don't believe Robyn, then believe me.

Cape's town, and I didn't use magic to come to this conclusion.

Yet again no case for why he is town just that he is. And once again I will discard it

I have not been in a place conducive to make cases all day, so you'll excuse me if it takes longer than normal for me to respond and write cases.

[Bereft]

The funniest part is that Cape's slot is not even pivotal.

There are so many other pressing slots, and you're still talking about Cape.

No you're talking about cape. I am talking about JJJ and Thunal

Ok then, but I don't understand the J³/Thunal case.

[RondoDimBuckle]

J³ showed up late.
You're a loose cannon who has somehow failed to understand what is going on.
Nobody agrees on reads at all.

I dont think I have failed, I just dont agree

I see nothing in that fancy post of yours that's an explanation of disagreement.

And even if you don't believe Robyn, then believe me.

Cape's town, and I didn't use magic to come to this conclusion.

Yet again no case for why he is town just that he is. And once again I will discard it

I have not been in a place conducive to make cases all day, so you'll excuse me if it takes longer than normal for me to respond and write cases.

You're that one wanting to change my mind on it. I have made my stance clear.

[RondoDimBuckle]

The funniest part is that Cape's slot is not even pivotal.

There are so many other pressing slots, and you're still talking about Cape.

No you're talking about cape. I am talking about JJJ and Thunal

Ok then, but I don't understand the J³/Thunal case.

Because I havent made one yet. I have just declared it

[RondoDimBuckle]

The later I make my case the more impactful and the less time JJJ and Thunal (and Cape) have to respond to it

[Bereft]

The funniest part is that Cape's slot is not even pivotal.

There are so many other pressing slots, and you're still talking about Cape.

No you're talking about cape. I am talking about JJJ and Thunal

Ok then, but I don't understand the J³/Thunal case.

Because I havent made one yet. I have just declared it

Then why am I supposed to listen you. These opinions are not symmetric sheesh.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Cape / Thunal / JJJ were chatting up a storm yesterday. Today they are silent as the grave

[Bereft]

Thunal/J³ maybe but Cape? No, pure fantasy.

Its extremely boring but the day is looking more like a "go michelle, go next" day than the alternative, which is weird, but ya know, sometimes the mafia just have poor decision making skills.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Thunal/J³ maybe but Cape? No, pure fantasy.

Its extremely boring but the day is looking more like a "go michelle, go next" day than the alternative, which is weird, but ya know, sometimes the mafia just have poor decision making skills.

ok so what happens when Michelle flips town?

[Bereft]

Thunal/J³ maybe but Cape? No, pure fantasy.

Its extremely boring but the day is looking more like a "go michelle, go next" day than the alternative, which is weird, but ya know, sometimes the mafia just have poor decision making skills.

ok so what happens when Michelle flips town?

J³'s in a pickle.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Thunal/J³ maybe but Cape? No, pure fantasy.

Its extremely boring but the day is looking more like a "go michelle, go next" day than the alternative, which is weird, but ya know, sometimes the mafia just have poor decision making skills.

ok so what happens when Michelle flips town?

J³'s in a pickle.

so why not flip JJJ today and tomorrow I am (/michelle) in a pickle?

[Thunal33]

What's normally suspicious about your style?

I think this kind of comment about finding it weird you're too trusted is >rand mafia. A lot of townies are confident in their townieness even if they are suspected often, but it's easy for mafia to assume they're suspicious.

One one level, I have no idea. Maybe I'm just drawn that way? Some of it is how I approach the game and suspicion--some of it is meta, but a lot of it is noticing patterns and when those patterns are off. Which many see as a suspicious way to suspect people, apparently.

And, in a bigger way, your noting my discomfort in being trusted is an excellent example of why--on this particular site. It's a mafia culture thing. I learned mafia in a very different setting than that of most of the players on here. There are some players (SVS, LC in this game) I've been playing with for about 15 years--I think Wilgy for at least a decade. I may have forgotten someone else who is in this game (other than our wonderful host). The game we played then, on sites like LP and The Piano, was stylistically different--we developed our own mafia slang, almost all games were ones in which pretty much everyone has a power, info dumping was essentially always frowned on--at least past a certain point, when we all seemed to realize it's not nearly as much fun that way, and agreed that there just wouldn't be any any more. Where puzzles and hidden messages were everywhere. This site, in large part, grew out of that world--and merged it with other mafia communities.

The mafia game style of those other communities mostly became the prominent culture, with some aspects of my original realm staying around. like this color.

And I still play with my same style that I always have, even though I know that most around me have a different style--and will suspect me for my style. I'm good with that.

Although, I do twirl a lot less than I used to.

As for your suspicion, unless I'm misunderstanding ">rand mafia" (as I don't actually know what that means). It is very par for the course in the games of most of my mafia playing for civvies to not want to be publicly trust. I mean, I guess in a game where there is only 1 bad faction (and no apparent neutral or indy roles), it makes more sense for civs to not worry so much when trusted, but...I'm still more accustomed to games where such a structure (2 teams, one good one bad) is the exception and not the rule,

While I'm waxing nostalgic, and in a Ted Lasso game, a shout out to the OG Diamond Dog, in whose honor this smiley was created It's literally based on the actual human. I miss that FEB.

Okay, what you and JJJ said about not wanting to be townread makes sense, and that comment might be NAI coming from you. You said JJJ's play was too much work to be fake, how much experience do you have with him? Afaik he tries hard as both alignments and can't be effort cleared alone.

minor concern

why assume that comment is NAI coming from LoRab if you question how much experience they have with JJJ?

I didn't mean the JJJ comment, I meant the comment about not wanting to be trusted because LoRab is an old school player.

[Bereft]

Thunal/J³ maybe but Cape? No, pure fantasy.

Its extremely boring but the day is looking more like a "go michelle, go next" day than the alternative, which is weird, but ya know, sometimes the mafia just have poor decision making skills.

ok so what happens when Michelle flips town?

J³'s in a pickle.

so why not flip JJJ today and tomorrow I am (/michelle) in a pickle?

Because which makes more sense, flip J³, whose posts pass a smell test, or flip Michelle, whose posts don't pass a smell test?

Have you seen Michelle's posts??

[RondoDimBuckle]

Thunal/J³ maybe but Cape? No, pure fantasy.

Its extremely boring but the day is looking more like a "go michelle, go next" day than the alternative, which is weird, but ya know, sometimes the mafia just have poor decision making skills.

ok so what happens when Michelle flips town?

J³'s in a pickle.

so why not flip JJJ today and tomorrow I am (/michelle) in a pickle?

Because which makes more sense, flip J³, whose posts pass a smell test, or flip Michelle, whose posts don't pass a smell test?

Have you seen Michelle's posts??

I have, did you not see my post on Michelle?

I have also read JJJ's posts

[Thunal33]

I’ve perused back the last thirty moments of the sun gobble I can only doodle that to be one of the flibber, bungle endings to a giggle I can hummingbird. Whirlwind is an absolute harmony jester and I have no riddle if that is to be mirrored in his arrangement. Rainbow begs to be decoded and I would be vaporizing something if she wasn’t rescued yesterday. Because if Rainbow is boozy, JJJ is purported good, which would be wildly useful.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

There's someone he thinks was suspicious at EoD, but I cant for the life of me figure out who that was.

He thinks Michelle might've been rescued, and wants to flip them because if it flips red then it clears J³.

Idg how this curse works. Why is J³ not censored ugh.

yeah its a frame rescue. It was tvt d1. Wolves had full control of thread

I also think the wagons were t/t but I don't think a coordinated frame rescue makes any sense. If I were wolfing I'd easily go on town Michelle who could be cleared later over no show Seanzie.

[Thunal33]

I'm going to sheep Robyn's townread on Cape.

[Bereft]

Thunal/J³ maybe but Cape? No, pure fantasy.

Its extremely boring but the day is looking more like a "go michelle, go next" day than the alternative, which is weird, but ya know, sometimes the mafia just have poor decision making skills.

ok so what happens when Michelle flips town?

J³'s in a pickle.

so why not flip JJJ today and tomorrow I am (/michelle) in a pickle?

Because which makes more sense, flip J³, whose posts pass a smell test, or flip Michelle, whose posts don't pass a smell test?

Have you seen Michelle's posts??

I have, did you not see my post on Michelle?

I have also read JJJ's posts

Uh oops no, I appear to have missed your Michelle post, sorry, will get back.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I’ve perused back the last thirty moments of the sun gobble I can only doodle that to be one of the flibber, bungle endings to a giggle I can hummingbird. Whirlwind is an absolute harmony jester and I have no riddle if that is to be mirrored in his arrangement. Rainbow begs to be decoded and I would be vaporizing something if she wasn’t rescued yesterday. Because if Rainbow is boozy, JJJ is purported good, which would be wildly useful.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

There's someone he thinks was suspicious at EoD, but I cant for the life of me figure out who that was.

He thinks Michelle might've been rescued, and wants to flip them because if it flips red then it clears J³.

Idg how this curse works. Why is J³ not censored ugh.

yeah its a frame rescue. It was tvt d1. Wolves had full control of thread

I also think the wagons were t/t but I don't think a coordinated frame rescue makes any sense. If I were wolfing I'd easily go on town Michelle who could be cleared later over no show Seanzie.

This is the post you respond to? This one. lol

[Thunal33]

Even though flutterby says they have a spirit interpretation on Candle (and, no offense, I grasp those interpretations with a sprinkle of pepper), I am slanted to trust them on Candle. I mean, I previously had Candle as a city interpretation, but it provides me comfort about Flutterby rolling out so self-assured about it now.

There was a ton of commotion in the preceding 30 moments. By my calculation, there was a 2-vote 5-method bind 15 min before Dusk. Whirlwind gushing in to randomly vote Seanzie and the spar with Wilgy are crimson banners. (Or crimson cards, lol)

You can’t reveal me wolves weren’t busy leading off of Rainbow. That gazed like a rescue to me, and it functioned.

I'm not going to try reading this.

[Thunal33]

I’ve perused back the last thirty moments of the sun gobble I can only doodle that to be one of the flibber, bungle endings to a giggle I can hummingbird. Whirlwind is an absolute harmony jester and I have no riddle if that is to be mirrored in his arrangement. Rainbow begs to be decoded and I would be vaporizing something if she wasn’t rescued yesterday. Because if Rainbow is boozy, JJJ is purported good, which would be wildly useful.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

There's someone he thinks was suspicious at EoD, but I cant for the life of me figure out who that was.

He thinks Michelle might've been rescued, and wants to flip them because if it flips red then it clears J³.

Idg how this curse works. Why is J³ not censored ugh.

yeah its a frame rescue. It was tvt d1. Wolves had full control of thread

I also think the wagons were t/t but I don't think a coordinated frame rescue makes any sense. If I were wolfing I'd easily go on town Michelle who could be cleared later over no show Seanzie.

This is the post you respond to? This one. lol

You realize I'm catching up and haven't read everything yet?

[Bereft]

Spoiler: show

Good morning!

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean

Putting 'can' between stars, I take it as not a solid statement.
Otoh if you can meta read Jay I am envious because I can't. Some hints will be appreciated!

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

i think this is ~rand town perhaps

That's a pocketing attempt perhaps

i just found it a towny thing to highlight

so yes it is a pocket attempt

[VOTE: cape] aubergine

I don't clear you. I lean you town
I doubt you can't notice its not a lock

"I don't think Jay makes this post as mafia." is a pretty assertive statement.

It helps town imo. A simple logic tells me that mafia is not posting that.
I will not make a wall to explain it more

Why cape bad?

He said he wanted to pocket me

Cape wanting to pocket Michelle, reason enough for Michelle to be town

Spoiler: show

I don't clear you. I lean you town
I doubt you can't notice its not a lock

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

You misinterpret my post into a lock read.
If i was good with voting Sean I would
You're stretching things and i want to know why

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

You misinterpret my post into a lock read.
If i was good with voting Sean I would
You're stretching things and i want to know why

I expected you to carry on your line of questioning in some capacity to get a better read on me or something. I was not anticipating such a quick acceptance. You were right to ask me why I voted for someone with no posts, but now I am forced to ask myself if you were truly invested in that question.

Yes, I made my own judgement.
I didn't follow you

Keeping 'town leader' JJJ in check

Spoiler: show

You force me to self press on Sean

not wanting to vote sean



All of these are good reason to town read Michelle.

But honestly if she doesnt post more, doesnt help me with Thunal/Cape/JJJ and find the +1 she can go into the SVS/DM/Scotty/Michelle pile of 1 of

I would much rather kill JJJ today.

Cape's v, "keeping J³ in check"??? Mich was on the defense, how else do you expect them to react, and the last one is more than fakeable.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Spoiler: show

I’ve perused back the last thirty moments of the sun gobble I can only doodle that to be one of the flibber, bungle endings to a giggle I can hummingbird. Whirlwind is an absolute harmony jester and I have no riddle if that is to be mirrored in his arrangement. Rainbow begs to be decoded and I would be vaporizing something if she wasn’t rescued yesterday. Because if Rainbow is boozy, JJJ is purported good, which would be wildly useful.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

There's someone he thinks was suspicious at EoD, but I cant for the life of me figure out who that was.

He thinks Michelle might've been rescued, and wants to flip them because if it flips red then it clears J³.

Idg how this curse works. Why is J³ not censored ugh.

yeah its a frame rescue. It was tvt d1. Wolves had full control of thread

I also think the wagons were t/t but I don't think a coordinated frame rescue makes any sense. If I were wolfing I'd easily go on town Michelle who could be cleared later over no show Seanzie.

This is the post you respond to? This one. lol

You realize I'm catching up and haven't read everything yet?

What's normally suspicious about your style?

I think this kind of comment about finding it weird you're too trusted is >rand mafia. A lot of townies are confident in their townieness even if they are suspected often, but it's easy for mafia to assume they're suspicious.

One one level, I have no idea. Maybe I'm just drawn that way? Some of it is how I approach the game and suspicion--some of it is meta, but a lot of it is noticing patterns and when those patterns are off. Which many see as a suspicious way to suspect people, apparently.

And, in a bigger way, your noting my discomfort in being trusted is an excellent example of why--on this particular site. It's a mafia culture thing. I learned mafia in a very different setting than that of most of the players on here. There are some players (SVS, LC in this game) I've been playing with for about 15 years--I think Wilgy for at least a decade. I may have forgotten someone else who is in this game (other than our wonderful host). The game we played then, on sites like LP and The Piano, was stylistically different--we developed our own mafia slang, almost all games were ones in which pretty much everyone has a power, info dumping was essentially always frowned on--at least past a certain point, when we all seemed to realize it's not nearly as much fun that way, and agreed that there just wouldn't be any any more. Where puzzles and hidden messages were everywhere. This site, in large part, grew out of that world--and merged it with other mafia communities.

The mafia game style of those other communities mostly became the prominent culture, with some aspects of my original realm staying around. like this color.

And I still play with my same style that I always have, even though I know that most around me have a different style--and will suspect me for my style. I'm good with that.

Although, I do twirl a lot less than I used to.

As for your suspicion, unless I'm misunderstanding ">rand mafia" (as I don't actually know what that means). It is very par for the course in the games of most of my mafia playing for civvies to not want to be publicly trust. I mean, I guess in a game where there is only 1 bad faction (and no apparent neutral or indy roles), it makes more sense for civs to not worry so much when trusted, but...I'm still more accustomed to games where such a structure (2 teams, one good one bad) is the exception and not the rule,

While I'm waxing nostalgic, and in a Ted Lasso game, a shout out to the OG Diamond Dog, in whose honor this smiley was created It's literally based on the actual human. I miss that FEB.

Okay, what you and JJJ said about not wanting to be townread makes sense, and that comment might be NAI coming from you. You said JJJ's play was too much work to be fake, how much experience do you have with him? Afaik he tries hard as both alignments and can't be effort cleared alone.

minor concern

why assume that comment is NAI coming from LoRab if you question how much experience they have with JJJ?

I didn't mean the JJJ comment, I meant the comment about not wanting to be trusted because LoRab is an old school player.

So let me get this straight.

You will respond to the above comment to cape that you were tagged in

and the comment from me that you werent tagged in.

and yet you didnt see at all on that page that I was pushing a you / jjj / cape + 1 angle when there is a 4 minute interval between post 1 and post 2?

Gonna have to press x to doubt here

[Thunal33]

I like Michelle’s recent posting

btw @Thunal33 could you elaborate on what you liked about Michelle's postings? I didnt feel the same way

It was her entitlement/headstrongness that caught my eye.

I don't clear you. I lean you town
I doubt you can't notice its not a lock

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

You misinterpret my post into a lock read.
If i was good with voting Sean I would
You're stretching things and i want to know why

I don't clear you. I lean you town
I doubt you can't notice its not a lock

"I don't think Jay makes this post as mafia." is a pretty assertive statement.

It helps town imo. A simple logic tells me that mafia is not posting that.
I will not make a wall to explain it more

These have "isn't it obvious" tone, and they pretty clearly struck me as Michelle actually believing in her reads.

I think scum Michelle would make some concessions here or have trouble responding.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Spoiler: show

Good morning!

You don't seem too confident here tho

That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean

Putting 'can' between stars, I take it as not a solid statement.
Otoh if you can meta read Jay I am envious because I can't. Some hints will be appreciated!

You don't seem too confident here tho

i think this is ~rand town perhaps

That's a pocketing attempt perhaps

i just found it a towny thing to highlight

so yes it is a pocket attempt

[VOTE: cape] aubergine

I don't clear you. I lean you town
I doubt you can't notice its not a lock

"I don't think Jay makes this post as mafia." is a pretty assertive statement.

It helps town imo. A simple logic tells me that mafia is not posting that.
I will not make a wall to explain it more

Why cape bad?

He said he wanted to pocket me

Cape wanting to pocket Michelle, reason enough for Michelle to be town

Spoiler: show

I don't clear you. I lean you town
I doubt you can't notice its not a lock

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

You misinterpret my post into a lock read.
If i was good with voting Sean I would
You're stretching things and i want to know why

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

You misinterpret my post into a lock read.
If i was good with voting Sean I would
You're stretching things and i want to know why

I expected you to carry on your line of questioning in some capacity to get a better read on me or something. I was not anticipating such a quick acceptance. You were right to ask me why I voted for someone with no posts, but now I am forced to ask myself if you were truly invested in that question.

Yes, I made my own judgement.
I didn't follow you

Keeping 'town leader' JJJ in check

Spoiler: show

You force me to self press on Sean

not wanting to vote sean



All of these are good reason to town read Michelle.

But honestly if she doesnt post more, doesnt help me with Thunal/Cape/JJJ and find the +1 she can go into the SVS/DM/Scotty/Michelle pile of 1 of

I would much rather kill JJJ today.

Cape's v, "keeping J³ in check"??? Mich was on the defense, how else do you expect them to react, and the last one is more than fakeable.

sure its fakeable. youll note the bolded

I acknowledge its a weak town case but hey at least ive done more casing than you and robyn combined. It could even be a pairing with JJJ but I am more interested in my main flips.

[Thunal33]

Spoiler: show

I’ve perused back the last thirty moments of the sun gobble I can only doodle that to be one of the flibber, bungle endings to a giggle I can hummingbird. Whirlwind is an absolute harmony jester and I have no riddle if that is to be mirrored in his arrangement. Rainbow begs to be decoded and I would be vaporizing something if she wasn’t rescued yesterday. Because if Rainbow is boozy, JJJ is purported good, which would be wildly useful.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

There's someone he thinks was suspicious at EoD, but I cant for the life of me figure out who that was.

He thinks Michelle might've been rescued, and wants to flip them because if it flips red then it clears J³.

Idg how this curse works. Why is J³ not censored ugh.

yeah its a frame rescue. It was tvt d1. Wolves had full control of thread

I also think the wagons were t/t but I don't think a coordinated frame rescue makes any sense. If I were wolfing I'd easily go on town Michelle who could be cleared later over no show Seanzie.

This is the post you respond to? This one. lol

You realize I'm catching up and haven't read everything yet?

What's normally suspicious about your style?

I think this kind of comment about finding it weird you're too trusted is >rand mafia. A lot of townies are confident in their townieness even if they are suspected often, but it's easy for mafia to assume they're suspicious.

One one level, I have no idea. Maybe I'm just drawn that way? Some of it is how I approach the game and suspicion--some of it is meta, but a lot of it is noticing patterns and when those patterns are off. Which many see as a suspicious way to suspect people, apparently.

And, in a bigger way, your noting my discomfort in being trusted is an excellent example of why--on this particular site. It's a mafia culture thing. I learned mafia in a very different setting than that of most of the players on here. There are some players (SVS, LC in this game) I've been playing with for about 15 years--I think Wilgy for at least a decade. I may have forgotten someone else who is in this game (other than our wonderful host). The game we played then, on sites like LP and The Piano, was stylistically different--we developed our own mafia slang, almost all games were ones in which pretty much everyone has a power, info dumping was essentially always frowned on--at least past a certain point, when we all seemed to realize it's not nearly as much fun that way, and agreed that there just wouldn't be any any more. Where puzzles and hidden messages were everywhere. This site, in large part, grew out of that world--and merged it with other mafia communities.

The mafia game style of those other communities mostly became the prominent culture, with some aspects of my original realm staying around. like this color.

And I still play with my same style that I always have, even though I know that most around me have a different style--and will suspect me for my style. I'm good with that.

Although, I do twirl a lot less than I used to.

As for your suspicion, unless I'm misunderstanding ">rand mafia" (as I don't actually know what that means). It is very par for the course in the games of most of my mafia playing for civvies to not want to be publicly trust. I mean, I guess in a game where there is only 1 bad faction (and no apparent neutral or indy roles), it makes more sense for civs to not worry so much when trusted, but...I'm still more accustomed to games where such a structure (2 teams, one good one bad) is the exception and not the rule,

While I'm waxing nostalgic, and in a Ted Lasso game, a shout out to the OG Diamond Dog, in whose honor this smiley was created It's literally based on the actual human. I miss that FEB.

Okay, what you and JJJ said about not wanting to be townread makes sense, and that comment might be NAI coming from you. You said JJJ's play was too much work to be fake, how much experience do you have with him? Afaik he tries hard as both alignments and can't be effort cleared alone.

minor concern

why assume that comment is NAI coming from LoRab if you question how much experience they have with JJJ?

I didn't mean the JJJ comment, I meant the comment about not wanting to be trusted because LoRab is an old school player.

So let me get this straight.

You will respond to the above comment to cape that you were tagged in

and the comment from me that you werent tagged in.

and yet you didnt see at all on that page that I was pushing a you / jjj / cape + 1 angle when there is a 4 minute interval between post 1 and post 2?

Gonna have to press x to doubt here

I saw it, I just didn't think it was worth responding to.

[Bereft]

Rondo, the Michelle towncase was more convincing than whatever you're supposedly doing to your main pushes.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

How we managed to yeet a 0 poster over anyone else is baffling to me honestly.

What scenario is anyone like "yeah I'll take the 4/15 before we bring those odds down to 4/8 or 4/10 where townie players can show first effectively making odds more like 4/6 or 7"

I don’t think it was a bad elimination even if I voted Michelle instead. The entire rationale is that solving everyone else can change the subjective probabilities for the zero poster’s flip.

And we’re spared the delibiliting loss of activity.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Spoiler: show

There's someone he thinks was suspicious at EoD, but I cant for the life of me figure out who that was.

He thinks Michelle might've been rescued, and wants to flip them because if it flips red then it clears J³.

Idg how this curse works. Why is J³ not censored ugh.

yeah its a frame rescue. It was tvt d1. Wolves had full control of thread

I also think the wagons were t/t but I don't think a coordinated frame rescue makes any sense. If I were wolfing I'd easily go on town Michelle who could be cleared later over no show Seanzie.

This is the post you respond to? This one. lol

You realize I'm catching up and haven't read everything yet?

What's normally suspicious about your style?

I think this kind of comment about finding it weird you're too trusted is >rand mafia. A lot of townies are confident in their townieness even if they are suspected often, but it's easy for mafia to assume they're suspicious.

One one level, I have no idea. Maybe I'm just drawn that way? Some of it is how I approach the game and suspicion--some of it is meta, but a lot of it is noticing patterns and when those patterns are off. Which many see as a suspicious way to suspect people, apparently.

And, in a bigger way, your noting my discomfort in being trusted is an excellent example of why--on this particular site. It's a mafia culture thing. I learned mafia in a very different setting than that of most of the players on here. There are some players (SVS, LC in this game) I've been playing with for about 15 years--I think Wilgy for at least a decade. I may have forgotten someone else who is in this game (other than our wonderful host). The game we played then, on sites like LP and The Piano, was stylistically different--we developed our own mafia slang, almost all games were ones in which pretty much everyone has a power, info dumping was essentially always frowned on--at least past a certain point, when we all seemed to realize it's not nearly as much fun that way, and agreed that there just wouldn't be any any more. Where puzzles and hidden messages were everywhere. This site, in large part, grew out of that world--and merged it with other mafia communities.

The mafia game style of those other communities mostly became the prominent culture, with some aspects of my original realm staying around. like this color.

And I still play with my same style that I always have, even though I know that most around me have a different style--and will suspect me for my style. I'm good with that.

Although, I do twirl a lot less than I used to.

As for your suspicion, unless I'm misunderstanding ">rand mafia" (as I don't actually know what that means). It is very par for the course in the games of most of my mafia playing for civvies to not want to be publicly trust. I mean, I guess in a game where there is only 1 bad faction (and no apparent neutral or indy roles), it makes more sense for civs to not worry so much when trusted, but...I'm still more accustomed to games where such a structure (2 teams, one good one bad) is the exception and not the rule,

While I'm waxing nostalgic, and in a Ted Lasso game, a shout out to the OG Diamond Dog, in whose honor this smiley was created It's literally based on the actual human. I miss that FEB.

Okay, what you and JJJ said about not wanting to be townread makes sense, and that comment might be NAI coming from you. You said JJJ's play was too much work to be fake, how much experience do you have with him? Afaik he tries hard as both alignments and can't be effort cleared alone.

minor concern

why assume that comment is NAI coming from LoRab if you question how much experience they have with JJJ?

I didn't mean the JJJ comment, I meant the comment about not wanting to be trusted because LoRab is an old school player.

So let me get this straight.

You will respond to the above comment to cape that you were tagged in

and the comment from me that you werent tagged in.

and yet you didnt see at all on that page that I was pushing a you / jjj / cape + 1 angle when there is a 4 minute interval between post 1 and post 2?

Gonna have to press x to doubt here

I saw it, I just didn't think it was worth responding to.

Wait, so which was it?

"Im catching up I cant see everything"

or

"I saw it and I didnt think it was worth responding to"

Because they are diametrically opposed statements

[Bereft]

Anyways, I can't threadcamp until Michelle posts.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Rondo is probably 0 for 3. Oops.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Rondo, the Michelle towncase was more convincing than whatever you're supposedly doing to your main pushes.

So then you have to ask yourself, why I havent made them convincing yet

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I might suspect LoRab more than Michelle. They’re the top two anyway.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Rondo is probably 0 for 3. Oops.

This is rich just after I caught thunal in a lie

[Thunal33]

Spoiler: show

yeah its a frame rescue. It was tvt d1. Wolves had full control of thread

I also think the wagons were t/t but I don't think a coordinated frame rescue makes any sense. If I were wolfing I'd easily go on town Michelle who could be cleared later over no show Seanzie.

This is the post you respond to? This one. lol

You realize I'm catching up and haven't read everything yet?

One one level, I have no idea. Maybe I'm just drawn that way? Some of it is how I approach the game and suspicion--some of it is meta, but a lot of it is noticing patterns and when those patterns are off. Which many see as a suspicious way to suspect people, apparently.

And, in a bigger way, your noting my discomfort in being trusted is an excellent example of why--on this particular site. It's a mafia culture thing. I learned mafia in a very different setting than that of most of the players on here. There are some players (SVS, LC in this game) I've been playing with for about 15 years--I think Wilgy for at least a decade. I may have forgotten someone else who is in this game (other than our wonderful host). The game we played then, on sites like LP and The Piano, was stylistically different--we developed our own mafia slang, almost all games were ones in which pretty much everyone has a power, info dumping was essentially always frowned on--at least past a certain point, when we all seemed to realize it's not nearly as much fun that way, and agreed that there just wouldn't be any any more. Where puzzles and hidden messages were everywhere. This site, in large part, grew out of that world--and merged it with other mafia communities.

The mafia game style of those other communities mostly became the prominent culture, with some aspects of my original realm staying around. like this color.

And I still play with my same style that I always have, even though I know that most around me have a different style--and will suspect me for my style. I'm good with that.

Although, I do twirl a lot less than I used to.

As for your suspicion, unless I'm misunderstanding ">rand mafia" (as I don't actually know what that means). It is very par for the course in the games of most of my mafia playing for civvies to not want to be publicly trust. I mean, I guess in a game where there is only 1 bad faction (and no apparent neutral or indy roles), it makes more sense for civs to not worry so much when trusted, but...I'm still more accustomed to games where such a structure (2 teams, one good one bad) is the exception and not the rule,

While I'm waxing nostalgic, and in a Ted Lasso game, a shout out to the OG Diamond Dog, in whose honor this smiley was created It's literally based on the actual human. I miss that FEB.

Okay, what you and JJJ said about not wanting to be townread makes sense, and that comment might be NAI coming from you. You said JJJ's play was too much work to be fake, how much experience do you have with him? Afaik he tries hard as both alignments and can't be effort cleared alone.

minor concern

why assume that comment is NAI coming from LoRab if you question how much experience they have with JJJ?

I didn't mean the JJJ comment, I meant the comment about not wanting to be trusted because LoRab is an old school player.

So let me get this straight.

You will respond to the above comment to cape that you were tagged in

and the comment from me that you werent tagged in.

and yet you didnt see at all on that page that I was pushing a you / jjj / cape + 1 angle when there is a 4 minute interval between post 1 and post 2?

Gonna have to press x to doubt here

I saw it, I just didn't think it was worth responding to.

Wait, so which was it?

"Im catching up I cant see everything"

or

"I saw it and I didnt think it was worth responding to"

Because they are diametrically opposed statements

The second one. I assumed you were talking about something later that I didn't see.

[Bereft]

Rondo, the Michelle towncase was more convincing than whatever you're supposedly doing to your main pushes.

So then you have to ask yourself, why I havent made them convincing yet

No seriously, if you're going to make a giant case at EoD anyways that's more convincing anyways, then may as well not waste your time needling suspects when its convincing no one and only fueling your own bias.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Rondo is probably 0 for 3. Oops.

This is rich just after I caught thunal in a lie

She’s your best bet to avoid 0 for 3. I didn’t see a “lie”, so let’s have a look.

[Bereft]

I might suspect LoRab more than Michelle. They’re the top two anyway.

Explain.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Rondo is probably 0 for 3. Oops.

This is rich just after I caught thunal in a lie

This kind of statement is very anti town wim. Shouldnt you be happy I am engaged in this game instead of trying to attack my desire to play it? :think:

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Confirmed, no lie.

Anyway.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Rondo, the Michelle towncase was more convincing than whatever you're supposedly doing to your main pushes.

So then you have to ask yourself, why I havent made them convincing yet

No seriously, if you're going to make a giant case at EoD anyways that's more convincing anyways, then may as well not waste your time needling suspects when its convincing no one and only fueling your own bias.

But then I wouldnt get this lovely towny statement from you. But you're right. Good night

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Rondo is probably 0 for 3. Oops.

This is rich just after I caught thunal in a lie

This kind of statement is very anti town wim. Shouldnt you be happy I am engaged in this game instead of trying to attack my desire to play it? :think:

I told you to do your thing my good man. But it’s important to resist your reads if I think they’re bad and that listening to you would literally lose the game.

Because I do.

[Bereft]

Rondo, the Michelle towncase was more convincing than whatever you're supposedly doing to your main pushes.

So then you have to ask yourself, why I havent made them convincing yet

No seriously, if you're going to make a giant case at EoD anyways that's more convincing anyways, then may as well not waste your time needling suspects when its convincing no one and only fueling your own bias.

But then I wouldnt get this lovely towny statement from you. But you're right. Good night

Oh quit. Everyone $%#!ing knows I'm town, everyone who's paying attention plus mafia that is. Literally anyone who's even bothered to suspect me is >randv at this point.

[Bereft]

I might suspect LoRab more than Michelle. They’re the top two anyway.

Explain.

@JaggedJimmyJay

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I might suspect LoRab more than Michelle. They’re the top two anyway.

Explain.

I brought up LoRab’s initial reads a bit ago. I just don’t dind them believable anymore. She essentially committed the same “sins” (subjectively) as Michelle but far earlier.

I think her read of me is extremely dubious, and that she fits very well on any team that kills Long Con (and frankly, that POE is leaving few alternatives).

[Bereft]

There is no team that kills Long Con except for WIFOM reasons, to be blunt.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Thunal33 what is your impression of my proposed solve?