Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End

[DarlingMonroe]

How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.

what? how?

You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.

see, i think a great wolf would have kept serhal around and not even bothered to vote serhal; would have stayed on rondo or scotty and logged out

[DarlingMonroe]

Also you just slipped that you know I'm town.

i mean, idk 100%

but i just dont think youre wolf;

usually top posters are always town and i like ive said, if youre wolf, awesome job

[DarlingMonroe]

How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.

what? how?

You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.

Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did

Show me how you prevented me getting voted out again.

i called out the lack of rhetoric involving your votes, @ people who had votes against you, and joined w/ a vote towards a player i felt was scummy which then lead them to have like 5/6 votes and you with like 1 and then 0

[DarlingMonroe]

also townies are way more prone to make wrong lynches/reads than wolves who are way more cautious about revealing how much they know

[MacDougall]

How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.

what? how?

You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.

Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did

Show me how you prevented me getting voted out again.

i called out the lack of rhetoric involving your votes, @ people who had votes against you, and joined w/ a vote towards a player i felt was scummy which then lead them to have like 5/6 votes and you with like 1 and then 0

which player was that?

[DarlingMonroe]

How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.

what? how?

You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.

Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did

Show me how you prevented me getting voted out again.

i called out the lack of rhetoric involving your votes, @ people who had votes against you, and joined w/ a vote towards a player i felt was scummy which then lead them to have like 5/6 votes and you with like 1 and then 0

or what do you think happened? lmao

[DarlingMonroe]

How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.

what? how?

You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.

Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did

Show me how you prevented me getting voted out again.

i called out the lack of rhetoric involving your votes, @ people who had votes against you, and joined w/ a vote towards a player i felt was scummy which then lead them to have like 5/6 votes and you with like 1 and then 0

which player was that?

bruh

[MacDougall]

what? how?

You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.

Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did

Show me how you prevented me getting voted out again.

i called out the lack of rhetoric involving your votes, @ people who had votes against you, and joined w/ a vote towards a player i felt was scummy which then lead them to have like 5/6 votes and you with like 1 and then 0

which player was that?

bruh

Which player did you push over that saved me? Was it a wolf?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Also you just slipped that you know I'm town.

point it out to me?

[MacDougall]

@RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.

Oh Rondo. Yeah so you pushed a town who was pushing me for pushing me.

Good wolf play. You saw a townie being wrong pushing a townie you'd been pocketing and called them out. Go you.

[MacDougall]

How have I lost you.

Your defense for "I'm not mafia" is to describe what no mafia player would do as though it is what you'd actually have done.

And now in your latest post you're describing what you actually did do re. Rondo as though that's what you didn't do.

I need 6 beers. And headache pills. Someone take over I'm dying.

what? how?

You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.

Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did

Last part of this paragraph Rondo.

[DarlingMonroe]

You said a great wolf would sit back and let town do the dirty work.

You say back and let Rondo fall into a tie. That's quite literally what you did by voting Serhal over Pyxxy or Scotty.

Hmmm, if voting for someone i legit scum read incorrectly is taking a seat back, i think we have diff approaches to sitting back; again, great wolf would have just let town vote you out and not step in when i did

Show me how you prevented me getting voted out again.

i called out the lack of rhetoric involving your votes, @ people who had votes against you, and joined w/ a vote towards a player i felt was scummy which then lead them to have like 5/6 votes and you with like 1 and then 0

which player was that?

bruh

Which player did you push over that saved me? Was it a wolf?

did i say it was a wolf? im just trying my best with the info i have, same like you

so you, a town experienced player, that i have probably wrongly trusted bc of their experience, hasn't also voted a wolf as far as im concerned; the only difference is im open minded and aware enough to understand they might be town errors than assume youre a wolf mastermind who has systematically eliminated all townies

[DarlingMonroe]

@RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.

Oh Rondo. Yeah so you pushed a town who was pushing me for pushing me.

Good wolf play. You saw a townie being wrong pushing a townie you'd been pocketing and called them out. Go you.

yeah, because I knew Rondo was town? this was way before the green check; and also wouldnt have a wolf just encourage rondo and gone along with it instead of questioning it?

[MacDougall]

In fact you pushed two townies there.

Pushed Rondo then Serhal.

So yeah you shielded me, a town. That's cool of you and all but wolves shield me. In this game with the POE we have shielding me is mechanically confirmed to have been a wolf tactic because everyone who was pushing me is a clear lol.

[MacDougall]

@RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.

Oh Rondo. Yeah so you pushed a town who was pushing me for pushing me.

Good wolf play. You saw a townie being wrong pushing a townie you'd been pocketing and called them out. Go you.

yeah, because I knew Rondo was town? this was way before the green check; and also wouldnt have a wolf just encourage rondo and gone along with it instead of questioning it?

Yeah wolves do happen to know the alignment of the players it's part of the fun.

[DarlingMonroe]

In fact you pushed two townies there.

Pushed Rondo then Serhal.

So yeah you shielded me, a town. That's cool of you and all but wolves shield me. In this game with the POE we have shielding me is mechanically confirmed to have been a wolf tactic because everyone who was pushing me is a clear lol.

this is after the fact, youre assuming that as a wolf i push for 2 town players like that? knowing they will flip town? yeah, no, thats not bright

[DarlingMonroe]

frankly, good luck finding the wolves, darlingmonroe signing off

[RondoDimBuckle]

@RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.

Oh Rondo. Yeah so you pushed a town who was pushing me for pushing me.

Good wolf play. You saw a townie being wrong pushing a townie you'd been pocketing and called them out. Go you.

yeah, because I knew Rondo was town? this was way before the green check; and also wouldnt have a wolf just encourage rondo and gone along with it instead of questioning it?

nah it looks too good when Mac flips because he was high chance of flipping that day

[DarlingMonroe]

@RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.

Oh Rondo. Yeah so you pushed a town who was pushing me for pushing me.

Good wolf play. You saw a townie being wrong pushing a townie you'd been pocketing and called them out. Go you.

yeah, because I knew Rondo was town? this was way before the green check; and also wouldnt have a wolf just encourage rondo and gone along with it instead of questioning it?

nah it looks too good when Mac flips because he was high chance of flipping that day

what looks too good?

[RondoDimBuckle]

@RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.

Oh Rondo. Yeah so you pushed a town who was pushing me for pushing me.

Good wolf play. You saw a townie being wrong pushing a townie you'd been pocketing and called them out. Go you.

yeah, because I knew Rondo was town? this was way before the green check; and also wouldnt have a wolf just encourage rondo and gone along with it instead of questioning it?

nah it looks too good when Mac flips because he was high chance of flipping that day

what looks too good?

mac flips because town is dumb and he was wrong and really fucked up with the sig push and flip so they raging bull push him over. You tell me off, the one who is scummiest town so when mac goes over to the dumb push by me I look even worse and become legit pushable the next day instead of wifoming town. Its a brilliant move to go deep

[RondoDimBuckle]

@MacDougall If I live tomorrow are you ok being cleared by me so people can stop tinfoiling you?

[pyxxy]

@Roxy thanks for hosting!

@Serhal i read your iso (posts in isolation; all of your posts) and i dont think you shot at anyone. just for future reference - its best to shoot asap, ideally a player that's a consensus scumread by everyone. it's okay if they're town - town can now focus their attention elsewhere. if you wait with your shot for too long you risk happening what just happened to you - dying before you get your shot off. and id argue that this is worse for us than if you would have shot any player regardless of what they were

Any time I play a character with a kill ability like that I prefer to wait a night or two to try and make a more considered kill.

I can honestly say this'll be my only game here though, so if a mod wants to delete or ban this account that's fine. To be perfectly frank, a lot of this player base comes off as miserable jerks and didn't really inspire a lot of wanting to interact with, and this'll be my last post.

happy holidays and yeah no sarcasm sorry you had a bad time

[pyxxy]

(I read further in the car earlier but I wanted to get that reply in first now I'm gonna jump around a bit)

I would have gone pyxxy over Serhal. I was on pyxxy... but then pyxxy was too present, and could have thrown a wrench.

I do hate when pyxxy uses his wiley ways to not die by playing the game

pay no attention to me saving scotty's ass for all the reasons that angry scotty listed

[RondoDimBuckle]

(I read further in the car earlier but I wanted to get that reply in first now I'm gonna jump around a bit)

I would have gone pyxxy over Serhal. I was on pyxxy... but then pyxxy was too present, and could have thrown a wrench.

I do hate when pyxxy uses his wiley ways to not die by playing the game

pay no attention to me saving scotty's ass for all the reasons that angry scotty listed

scotty was never in danger. If he was wolf he would be dead if he was town he was safe. This has been explained many times

[pyxxy]

@RondoDimBuckle maybe I missed it but like, why didn't you switch to Serhal at EOD?

[pyxxy]

oh we can realtime unironically this will save us both frustration as my dumb ass catches up

[RondoDimBuckle]

@RondoDimBuckle maybe I missed it but like, why didn't you switch to Serhal at EOD?

not enough time, votes are still at the top of thread, how have you read back and not seen that?

[pyxxy]

(I read further in the car earlier but I wanted to get that reply in first now I'm gonna jump around a bit)

I would have gone pyxxy over Serhal. I was on pyxxy... but then pyxxy was too present, and could have thrown a wrench.

I do hate when pyxxy uses his wiley ways to not die by playing the game

pay no attention to me saving scotty's ass for all the reasons that angry scotty listed

scotty was never in danger. If he was wolf he would be dead if he was town he was safe. This has been explained many times

but the votes ended at 3-3-3

and yours is worth 0 unless it's on a wolf, in which case it's worth 1? if I'm wrong call me wrong and tell me to re-read

[RondoDimBuckle]

(I read further in the car earlier but I wanted to get that reply in first now I'm gonna jump around a bit)

I would have gone pyxxy over Serhal. I was on pyxxy... but then pyxxy was too present, and could have thrown a wrench.

I do hate when pyxxy uses his wiley ways to not die by playing the game

pay no attention to me saving scotty's ass for all the reasons that angry scotty listed

scotty was never in danger. If he was wolf he would be dead if he was town he was safe. This has been explained many times

but the votes ended at 3-3-3

and yours is worth 0 unless it's on a wolf, in which case it's worth 1? if I'm wrong call me wrong and tell me to re-read

if its a tie, the wolf dies as long as I am voting it

[pyxxy]

[VOTE: serhal] aubergine

this was at EOD-04 or 05, math is hard but the poll was on the 2 minute

so uhhhhh wyd there was no time

[pyxxy]

(I read further in the car earlier but I wanted to get that reply in first now I'm gonna jump around a bit)

I would have gone pyxxy over Serhal. I was on pyxxy... but then pyxxy was too present, and could have thrown a wrench.

I do hate when pyxxy uses his wiley ways to not die by playing the game

pay no attention to me saving scotty's ass for all the reasons that angry scotty listed

scotty was never in danger. If he was wolf he would be dead if he was town he was safe. This has been explained many times

but the votes ended at 3-3-3

and yours is worth 0 unless it's on a wolf, in which case it's worth 1? if I'm wrong call me wrong and tell me to re-read

if its a tie, the wolf dies as long as I am voting it

ah okay

[Scotty]

@Scotty pls solve DM

I’m a bit loopy on flu meds but



I…I think she might be town.

And I…I think Mac is power wolfing

The claim ‘don’t target me, I’ll block you’ is super scary and convenient for a wolf to make.

I seem to remember he was ascetic in a past big game, and WAS actually town ascetic. So this isn’t outside of town possibility.

I’m just gonna let him marinate. He’s making some GREAT talking points and if he IS town, I don’t think we’re gonna wait very long for a pelt (no pressure)


But I think he’s barking up the wrong tree with DM. For the first time I think she might be town here

[DarlingMonroe]

@RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.

Oh Rondo. Yeah so you pushed a town who was pushing me for pushing me.

Good wolf play. You saw a townie being wrong pushing a townie you'd been pocketing and called them out. Go you.

yeah, because I knew Rondo was town? this was way before the green check; and also wouldnt have a wolf just encourage rondo and gone along with it instead of questioning it?

nah it looks too good when Mac flips because he was high chance of flipping that day

what looks too good?

mac flips because town is dumb and he was wrong and really fucked up with the sig push and flip so they raging bull push him over. You tell me off, the one who is scummiest town so when mac goes over to the dumb push by me I look even worse and become legit pushable the next day instead of wifoming town. Its a brilliant move to go deep

hmmm, okay, im not sure what to take from this

[Scotty]

The things you are saying you would do as mafia a good wolf wouldn't have done because it would have outed you.

A good wolf wouldn't just pivot to vote Mac after pocketing him just because he has votes on him. Miselim occurred anyway.

A good wolf wouldn't vote out Rondo after he's green checked.

yeah, but i am not a good wolf, im a great one;

i mean a great wolf would have stayed quiet and would have let lc and rondo take the train and get the votes to elim you

a great wolf would have just not bothered, especially if all the lynch candidates were town

Gooo offff

[pyxxy]

Scotty is just town

Perfect kill candidate tbh

At least I’ve got the night lol

yeah I am gone because they dont want me forcing the vote on pyxxy / robyn or pyxxy / leetic tomorrow

Your vote needs to be one OVER the tie in order to be best info, no?

at minimum sure.

Any tied wagon gives me mech on the wagon I am on. If my wagon dies, wolf, if the other, town. Since myself and Sheral randed Scotty must be town

"Since myself and Sheral randed Scotty must be town"

sorry rondo last question I went through your ISO and I don't understand how you are asserting this

if it's part of your mech and like you got a special message saying so then sure npnp

also what's your social security number

[pyxxy]

The things you are saying you would do as mafia a good wolf wouldn't have done because it would have outed you.

A good wolf wouldn't just pivot to vote Mac after pocketing him just because he has votes on him. Miselim occurred anyway.

A good wolf wouldn't vote out Rondo after he's green checked.

yeah, but i am not a good wolf, im a great one;

i mean a great wolf would have stayed quiet and would have let lc and rondo take the train and get the votes to elim you

a great wolf would have just not bothered, especially if all the lynch candidates were town

my dear town Long Con won your last mafia game for you

Spoiler: show

jk

[DarlingMonroe]

The things you are saying you would do as mafia a good wolf wouldn't have done because it would have outed you.

A good wolf wouldn't just pivot to vote Mac after pocketing him just because he has votes on him. Miselim occurred anyway.

A good wolf wouldn't vote out Rondo after he's green checked.

yeah, but i am not a good wolf, im a great one;

i mean a great wolf would have stayed quiet and would have let lc and rondo take the train and get the votes to elim you

a great wolf would have just not bothered, especially if all the lynch candidates were town

my dear town Long Con won your last mafia game for you

Spoiler: show

jk

hahaha just saw the spoiler! :P i was gonna be upset if u discredited my wolf game just like that !

[pyxxy]

I would have gone pyxxy over Serhal. I was on pyxxy... but then pyxxy was too present, and could have thrown a wrench.

Sure but I mean like earlier, much earlier. Pyxxy would have been pressured by mafia after his PR claim. That's how mafia deal with it. They just laugh, call him outed and force him to full claim with vote pressure.

incorrect - please see D1 VCA and then check my role at end of game
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I am immune to vote pressure.

[pyxxy]

The things you are saying you would do as mafia a good wolf wouldn't have done because it would have outed you.

A good wolf wouldn't just pivot to vote Mac after pocketing him just because he has votes on him. Miselim occurred anyway.

A good wolf wouldn't vote out Rondo after he's green checked.

yeah, but i am not a good wolf, im a great one;

i mean a great wolf would have stayed quiet and would have let lc and rondo take the train and get the votes to elim you

a great wolf would have just not bothered, especially if all the lynch candidates were town

my dear town Long Con won your last mafia game for you

Spoiler: show

jk

hahaha just saw the spoiler! :P i was gonna be upset if u discredited my wolf game just like that !

are u a wolf here be honest

so that Long Con can give me the pelt he owes me

[MacDougall]

@Scotty pls solve DM

I’m a bit loopy on flu meds but



I…I think she might be town.

And I…I think Mac is power wolfing

The claim ‘don’t target me, I’ll block you’ is super scary and convenient for a wolf to make.

I seem to remember he was ascetic in a past big game, and WAS actually town ascetic. So this isn’t outside of town possibility.

I’m just gonna let him marinate. He’s making some GREAT talking points and if he IS town, I don’t think we’re gonna wait very long for a pelt (no pressure)


But I think he’s barking up the wrong tree with DM. For the first time I think she might be town here

Yeh but I also kinda think that and the only reason you do is cuz I've painstakingly gone to the got dang trouble of making them say towny shid.

@RondoDimBuckle and as far as your proposition is concerned... sure I don't see the harm.

[MacDougall]

I would have gone pyxxy over Serhal. I was on pyxxy... but then pyxxy was too present, and could have thrown a wrench.

Sure but I mean like earlier, much earlier. Pyxxy would have been pressured by mafia after his PR claim. That's how mafia deal with it. They just laugh, call him outed and force him to full claim with vote pressure.

incorrect - please see D1 VCA and then check my role at end of game
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I am immune to vote pressure.

ah yes cuz all wolves know that

[pyxxy]

Oh wait, you didn't mean me specifically.

Correct I am just explaining how there's no reasonable explanation for why Pyxxy wasn't pushed harder on day 2 if he's town. He's very likely just mafia.

I agree with this opinion 100%

best I have is that scum were asleep

weak claim was weak but it did keep me alive so.....good enough

[pyxxy]

I would have gone pyxxy over Serhal. I was on pyxxy... but then pyxxy was too present, and could have thrown a wrench.

Sure but I mean like earlier, much earlier. Pyxxy would have been pressured by mafia after his PR claim. That's how mafia deal with it. They just laugh, call him outed and force him to full claim with vote pressure.

incorrect - please see D1 VCA and then check my role at end of game
viewtopic.php?t=2523

I am immune to vote pressure.

ah yes cuz all wolves know that

you are correct but

this reply was not for all wolves, it was for you

[DarlingMonroe]

The things you are saying you would do as mafia a good wolf wouldn't have done because it would have outed you.

A good wolf wouldn't just pivot to vote Mac after pocketing him just because he has votes on him. Miselim occurred anyway.

A good wolf wouldn't vote out Rondo after he's green checked.

yeah, but i am not a good wolf, im a great one;

i mean a great wolf would have stayed quiet and would have let lc and rondo take the train and get the votes to elim you

a great wolf would have just not bothered, especially if all the lynch candidates were town

my dear town Long Con won your last mafia game for you

Spoiler: show

jk

hahaha just saw the spoiler! :P i was gonna be upset if u discredited my wolf game just like that !

are u a wolf here be honest

so that Long Con can give me the pelt he owes me

nah, town here

honestly, wolves are probably mad chillin rn, all this focus on me another townie is just less attention from them being found

[pyxxy]

I don't see how you'd know the difference between a 2-way and a 3-way rand. That happens behind the scenes...?

I am not full outing my role just trust me. I am green and I have a green on scotty

ah

[leetic]

Scotty is just town

Perfect kill candidate tbh

At least I’ve got the night lol

yeah I am gone because they dont want me forcing the vote on pyxxy / robyn or pyxxy / leetic tomorrow

Your vote needs to be one OVER the tie in order to be best info, no?

at minimum sure.

Any tied wagon gives me mech on the wagon I am on. If my wagon dies, wolf, if the other, town. Since myself and Sheral randed Scotty must be town

I don't see how you'd know the difference between a 2-way and a 3-way rand. That happens behind the scenes...?

I am not full outing my role just trust me. I am green and I have a green on scotty

This does go against my Oracle role that said that one person was found to be town, so two would go against that. It's possible that that was the lie, but that would mean we have a janitor and "double targeting"

[DarlingMonroe]

so rondo, you can green on players and also can break a tie, but only if its scum? what? crazy role

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Mac DM is T v T

[MacDougall]

I'm versus nobody I'm just out here tryn solve em

[pyxxy]

DM are you like a high quality wolf?

Ooh, like a five-star wolf?

I mean anyone can answer but it'd help my read if I knew where on the from Glorfindel to Golden rating scale I'm supposed to be approaching her.

DM just won as mafia with partner Wilgy in Timelines Mafia it you want to peruse that

Small sample size

+1 to reading that game