Game of Champions: East Facility (Night 2)

[Sabiplz]

Having a really hard time getting into the game.

Nutella seems towny.

WWA's focus on Nutella's view of Falc is fine but I disagree.

Nutella's view of Falc I don't see.

Nutella's townread of Sig seems correct.

Why is your only teeter to the game based off nutella

Why not? What kind of answers are you expecting from a question like this?

There's 13 other people.

Your only world view revolves around just one person, nutella.

Why.

Perhaps they were at the top of the one page I've read and that was enough for me to get a gut take which I validated against their ISO which lead me to two of their reads and a player they seemed to have discourse with and that resulted me in skimming those ISos specifically?

What post from nutella iso gave you a gut read?

[nutella]

Someone react to my cape stuff pls I think I'm onto something. Reread is n0 it's soooooo bland

[Sabiplz]

Wilgz needs to answer my question or else.

No shot that question was that significant for you lol

It actually is because it's V weird that you complain about not being engaged with the game and your only teether to your reads is nutella to the point all your game content revolves around nutella.

How is that weird in the slightest? I can't focus for shit on the game so I get the slightest latch and went with it.

How do you expect someone who can't get into the game to react? How should they get into the game?

Not anchoring their worldview around one person. Thats why it's pinging me because it's not the normal thing.

[nutella]

Catching up now since i missed a lot of night 0

[VOTE: WindwardAway] aubergine

for now because

1. I was suspicious of #61 because I feel like it was WWA shading for the sake of shading. Like as town WWA would just ignore it as implied in their post, but for some reason they feel the need to comment on it. Also it's just ??? because it isn't an opening that made people feel less welcome, dunno what that was about.

2. #190 kind of solidified it for me. Like nutella isn't calling falc scum here, they are shading you for the same reason I am, it doesn't have anything to do with me thinking falcon is explicity town *(though I have taken note there were people that have defended falcon, kinda wanna look at that as soon as i read up on stuff).

I have read both Dizzy's and MR's content from night 0, thanks for coming to my TED talk because i have nothing to say about either one right now LOL

Oh and I also disliked #250 from porscha, seemed rather overthought out

This is his most contentful post and I can see some gears potentially turning here but definitely not unfakeable

[Sabiplz]

Someone react to my cape stuff pls I think I'm onto something. Reread is n0 it's soooooo bland

I'm busy poking Wilgz.

I already think him townreading me day one is completely out of character from him since he never finds me as town during any day ones ever.

[Sabiplz]

Wilgz needs to answer my question or else.

No shot that question was that significant for you lol

It actually is because it's V weird that you complain about not being engaged with the game and your only teether to your reads is nutella to the point all your game content revolves around nutella.

I see no problem with this

And you don't think it's him trying to pocket you???

[nutella]

He also reciprocates caitlin's townread but then very quickly backs off hmmmmmmmmmm

[nutella]

Wilgz needs to answer my question or else.

No shot that question was that significant for you lol

It actually is because it's V weird that you complain about not being engaged with the game and your only teether to your reads is nutella to the point all your game content revolves around nutella.

I see no problem with this

And you don't think it's him trying to pocket you???

I literally do not care I found a wolf in cape pls read my posts

[DrWilgy]

oh and the nutella calling falcon town thing is because people think falcon sucks as wolf so they are just calling him town for it, it's a read i am ignoring because i dont want to treat falcon like a 5 year old

it's a sucky read because i saw him coast as scum in a game when people kept dismissing him as "in his town meta" when apparently he was not

Was she in that game too?

If not why would you think that nutella is maliciously deceiving you rather than being one of the apparently many people who are wont to dismiss falcon as being in his town meta for thin reasons?

I don't even think it's a thin reason lol. I have seen him do well as scum. The way he instantly got involved in a complex player interaction here was just towny

@Sabiplz the gut take started with this here. Nothing too special about it other than me seeing it potentially come from T Nut.

[nutella]

Wilgy looks completely normal town wilgy to me shrug

[Sabiplz]

Wilgz needs to answer my question or else.

No shot that question was that significant for you lol

It actually is because it's V weird that you complain about not being engaged with the game and your only teether to your reads is nutella to the point all your game content revolves around nutella.

I see no problem with this

And you don't think it's him trying to pocket you???

I literally do not care I found a wolf in cape pls read my posts

I did read it.

I have been squinting at cape since night zero.

What else do you want from me, I'm finding others

[nutella]

[VOTE: cape90] aubergine


I'm getting totally ignored, so far just by people I TR tbf but like, I'm onto something here pls

[Sabiplz]

oh and the nutella calling falcon town thing is because people think falcon sucks as wolf so they are just calling him town for it, it's a read i am ignoring because i dont want to treat falcon like a 5 year old

it's a sucky read because i saw him coast as scum in a game when people kept dismissing him as "in his town meta" when apparently he was not

Was she in that game too?

If not why would you think that nutella is maliciously deceiving you rather than being one of the apparently many people who are wont to dismiss falcon as being in his town meta for thin reasons?

I don't even think it's a thin reason lol. I have seen him do well as scum. The way he instantly got involved in a complex player interaction here was just towny

@Sabiplz the gut take started with this here. Nothing too special about it other than me seeing it potentially come from T Nut.

Noted.

I'm still going to squint at you

But at a distance.

[DrWilgy]

Wilgz needs to answer my question or else.

No shot that question was that significant for you lol

It actually is because it's V weird that you complain about not being engaged with the game and your only teether to your reads is nutella to the point all your game content revolves around nutella.

How is that weird in the slightest? I can't focus for shit on the game so I get the slightest latch and went with it.

How do you expect someone who can't get into the game to react? How should they get into the game?

Not anchoring their worldview around one person. Thats why it's pinging me because it's not the normal thing.

That's all I've had the capacity for. Perhaps I'll chew your ISO next and see if that contradicts where I'm at now but as it's stands that's what I have to work with.

[Sabiplz]

[VOTE: Cape90 ] aubergine

Since no one wants to open their eyes to Alison

[Sabiplz]

Wilgz needs to answer my question or else.

No shot that question was that significant for you lol

It actually is because it's V weird that you complain about not being engaged with the game and your only teether to your reads is nutella to the point all your game content revolves around nutella.

How is that weird in the slightest? I can't focus for shit on the game so I get the slightest latch and went with it.

How do you expect someone who can't get into the game to react? How should they get into the game?

Not anchoring their worldview around one person. Thats why it's pinging me because it's not the normal thing.

That's all I've had the capacity for. Perhaps I'll chew your ISO next and see if that contradicts where I'm at now but as it's stands that's what I have to work with.

Fair enuf

[DrWilgy]

I go feed chillin now.

[Sabiplz]

Who is @DarlingMonroe and @Davos

[Sabiplz]

@Master Radishes come back to the thread or I will chase you again with scissors

[nutella]

Who is @DarlingMonroe and @Davos

Davos appears to be some extra account added to the game. The list of players in the other thread has Scrappy Doo.


Darling is a regular player theyre cool

[Sabiplz]

Noted. So our zero posters are LimeCoke and DarlingMonroe

Zero posting and his posting night zero makes me think LimeCoke is in his wolf meta.

Is zero posting AI for DarlingMonroe?

[nutella]

Also @Cape90 I just hit 50 glgl

[Cape90]

dizzy usually has playstyle differences from me but it's rare for us to not see eye to eye on thought processes to the point where he's willing to say that everything I'm saying is BS, and we can usually find some common ground

I think he is mafia

I mean, I haven't read most any of your posts

But I don't get your deal with either Sabi or wwa

Without really knowing much about it

And also not having an actual read on either of them

And I just wanted to sling mud at you anyway

Dizzy might be TWTBAW

idk about TWTBAW but they're not wolfy at least

was saying that because of the admission of them saying they haven't read any of Alison's posts, I was kinda wolfreading Dizzy's comment from before on Alison

Alison, you're kind of being full of bs as far as I can see, if I am to be all the way honest

it says "most any"
guess I read the most and you read the any

I think most makes more sense here because if they didn't read any of Alison's posts, how did they know Alison was focused in on Sabi and Windward?

Oh you are right, but it also looked like Dizzy already planned on pushing Alison, which I am guessing by the context is NAI

[Cape90]

Good morning!

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Who is trying to sabotage the team?
Poll runs till Tue Jan 30, 2024 2:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Alison
1
11%
Voters: Sabiplz
Cape90
0
No votes
Voters: None
DarlingMonroe
0
No votes
Voters: None
Davos
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyslexicon
0
No votes
Voters: None
Guillotine
2
22%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, Alison
Lemonfairy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
0
No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
2
22%
Voters: WindwardAway, Guillotine
RondoDimBuckle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sabiplz
0
No votes
Voters: None
WindwardAway
0
No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
1
11%
Voters: Cape90
Coaches/Spectators/Other
3
33%
Voters: Scotty, S~V~S, JaggedJimmyJay
Total votes: 9

I only read page 1, and I have some to read from N0 as well.
This half of the playerslist is cool, I wonder if it's randomly divided but probably I will not get any answers.

Rondo nitpicking 2 posts from Wind doesn't look good for me.
Also Alison's scum read for Sabi is kind of meta related and I get it. But I was in the game where Sabi said she will retire and I can understand her hate for the game and where it's coming from.

Looking at the votes now I see no voters on Wind so something happened.

Also @Cape90 please vote in the thread using [ vote]player name[ /vote] without blancs

I know how to vote I just haven't decided on who yet, was thinking mayyyyyybe Rondo, he likes to push me which he hasn't mysteriously this game. I don't think I want to push WWA right now

[Cape90]

do you see me voting you? no. do i give a shit? yes, as far as that you're picking the wrong player to push. if you think you can get a mislunch on me, then good luck i guess.

so I can vote you but you don't have the stones to vote me back? great deal for me, never taking my vote off then!

cool, waste your vote then, that's great

Do you townread Alison?

not particularly
i'm not dead set on scumreading her, though, I'm trying to understand her thought process which is why i'm talking to her about falcon and nutella
but hell if i care whether scum wastes their vote
i honestly don't know if i care whether town wastes their vote on me or not, sometimes i just stop giving a shit and decide it's better for people to flip me early so they stop trying to preflip me as scum, since that tends to result in a ton of bad reads if i remain alive

ok these posts about getting mislunched are slightly more >rand town i think. Maybe sabi is right I'll sleep on it

bad read, probably like the read that you are giving me right now, but i haven't seen your case, i think you pushing me is rand>v but we will see

[Guillotine]

This implies the existence of a vote list, instead its just "go read my iso to find out who I find scummy" there is no list. Just thought you should know

she probs has an NK priority list in scum chat with me at the top

might be what she was thinking of

why would i as scum bother killing you? you actually think you're that relevant?

probably cuz I caught your whole team LOL

unless you're claiming mafia and not teamed with any of my other suspects?

That said, these two are either w/w or t/t, never a difference check.

....What

What a weird conclusion.

@Guillotine what was your reasoning on this take?

It is very simple, you two going at each other like an ex-couple looks to me like a TvT fight, I dont think Alison attacks you the way she has and viceversa as scum. unless both of you are scum doing theater.

[Cape90]

#602

@nutella I disagree with sig being town because I saw things about them hunting 3p night 0, Guillo pointed it out #451

I don't care about that in context

why not?

[Michelle]

Noted. So our zero posters are LimeCoke and DarlingMonroe

Zero posting and his posting night zero makes me think LimeCoke is in his wolf meta.

Is zero posting AI for DarlingMonroe?

I have just one game with Darling Monroe, and I was wolf, so my attention wasn't so big on how town played.
I noticed a big difference in N0 though, I remember Jay could lock town them very early in D1 of that game.
But what if it's the case of an afk townie though?
Brad fits the same pattern, underwhelming N0 and no posts until now.

@DarlingMonroe
@Lime Coke
We need you in the game!

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine because tension being on the cw to a tow read wagon is cool.

I'll continue with these chain ISOs to get my footing after sleep.

Sounds like a bullshit vote to me.

Should it seem like anything else from me at this point?

Quite frankly, no.

Thanks for elaborating on the reads though.

[Cape90]

Michelle can read the other thread, meaning either she is in scum chat and she is being fed info from the other division thread there, or scum can do what we cant and read both threads.

1. that isn't what Michelle said there

2. I will say in Severance, only the third party could read both threads, but scum chat was feeding me bits of info about the other thread.

If this game is anything like that, we merge eventually, it doesn't say so in the OP though

[Cape90]

Sharing some of Space Daisy's thoughts in here. The jist of it below

Game of Champions XIII [Night 0] #627

Slight town on Guillo and nut for content in their posts
Slight town on WWA and Sabi for nebulous vibes reasons
Wary of Michelle
Null on Caitlin, Abi, Alison
Mikami - Rico

I read that. What's your own thoughts?
That post is so generic that I didn't even put much weight into it as representing real reads.
Unfortunately we are now in separate threads and I don't know if I can read the other thread today to make a read on Daisy.

You can see both threads?

Now that you said this I looked and I can't.
I just considered we should see it but I was wrong.


I'm going to enjoy RL for the rest of the day. I'll be back before going to sleep though.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Scummy response

[Michelle]

Post count

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Who posted - Game of Champions: East Facility (Day 1) - 379 replies
User NamePosts
Guillotine65
Alison43
WindwardAway43
Sabiplz40
nutella36
Lemonfairy30
Cape9024
Dyslexicon23
RondoDimBuckle23
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME15
DrWilgy14
Michelle11
Master Radishes7
Scotty5
S~V~S1

[Guillotine]

Wilgz needs to answer my question or else.

No shot that question was that significant for you lol

It actually is because it's V weird that you complain about not being engaged with the game and your only teether to your reads is nutella to the point all your game content revolves around nutella.

How is that weird in the slightest? I can't focus for shit on the game so I get the slightest latch and went with it.

How do you expect someone who can't get into the game to react? How should they get into the game?

Alright, this is town!Wilgy

[Michelle]

Michelle can read the other thread, meaning either she is in scum chat and she is being fed info from the other division thread there, or scum can do what we cant and read both threads.

1. that isn't what Michelle said there

2. I will say in Severance, only the third party could read both threads, but scum chat was feeding me bits of info about the other thread.

If this game is anything like that, we merge eventually, it doesn't say so in the OP though

What do you think I said?

I saw the vote. What's scummy in my post?

[Guillotine]

Someone react to my cape stuff pls I think I'm onto something. Reread is n0 it's soooooo bland

I will support you, imagine i was onto something and I talked myself out of it.

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine

This may look like a self-preservation vote but it is not.

[nutella]

#602

@nutella I disagree with sig being town because I saw things about them hunting 3p night 0, Guillo pointed it out #451

I don't care about that in context

why not?

because it made sense as a specific jokey response to the post he was quoting? like it just seems obvious lol
and also because i think it's more nai for sig

[Michelle]

Wilgy has a good vibe fmpov as well.
Nutella's solve is good, I liked the way she gave up to sleep once she dipped a little into the game.
Guillo is solving.

Sabi is also a town lean atm for me.
Alison, I am affraid to give her a read until I read the posts I skipped

These are players I will not vote toDay

[Michelle]

Vote count

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Who is trying to sabotage the team?
Poll runs till Tue Jan 30, 2024 2:00 am
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You may select 1 option


Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
Cape90
3
25%
Voters: Guillotine, nutella, Sabiplz
DarlingMonroe
0
No votes
Voters: None
Davos
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyslexicon
0
No votes
Voters: None
Guillotine
3
25%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, DrWilgy, Alison
Lemonfairy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
0
No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
2
17%
Voters: Cape90, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
1
8%
Voters: WindwardAway
RondoDimBuckle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sabiplz
0
No votes
Voters: None
WindwardAway
0
No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
Coaches/Spectators/Other
3
25%
Voters: Scotty, S~V~S, JaggedJimmyJay
Total votes: 12

[Guillotine]

Noted. So our zero posters are LimeCoke and DarlingMonroe

Zero posting and his posting night zero makes me think LimeCoke is in his wolf meta.

Is zero posting AI for DarlingMonroe?

I have just one game with Darling Monroe, and I was wolf, so my attention wasn't so big on how town played.
I noticed a big difference in N0 though, I remember Jay could lock town them very early in D1 of that game.
But what if it's the case of an afk townie though?
Brad fits the same pattern, underwhelming N0 and no posts until now.

@DarlingMonroe
@Lime Coke
We need you in the game!

I've seen Lime Coke slank as town, but not for that I'm cut him some slack. I wouldn't want to execute him though, it'd yield no info whatsoever. I'd be ok with him getting killed at night.

[Cape90]

Nvm I'm saying it now

I have a weird hunch that Cape and Lemon are w/w

It started as just a tickly feeling that they are positioned how they would as wolf comfortably enough in thread to blend in, and townreading each other



But for cape it was kinda clinched with the """slip"""" thing, just for a more complicated reason than guillo thought

So Post 4 of the thread does explicitly tell us that the other thread is West Facility. Guillo didn't read it, embarrassing for him, but this was always public knowledge. HOWEVER, when pressed, Cape did not cite this information at all. He acted more like he had made the assumption somehow.

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine


@Cape90 how do you figure there is a west facility?

I only see this thread.

because there is East? You said yourself the thread was split in two

I assumed we are dealing in opposites because that's kind of Severance did with the whole home and work thing. It could be something else, but with no real theme of this game, I don't know why the split would not be like that

Often when I believe something is actually a slip it's really not (and Cape will know that I just recently mischopped town for a "slip" in classical music mash) but since I already had an indeterminate gut ping on him this did stick out to me, that if he knew it because of the host post he should have just pointed to it but instead it seems like maybe he came by the knowledge from other means

1. My townread on lemonfairy came from this night 0 post #313. That post seemed pretty obviously like Lemonfairy was town, I thought it was their only night 0 post to be honest.

2. I don't even remember who you were for Classical Music Mash, also i dunno, maybe i did see it but thought i made it up, i was really tired when i posted that

[Cape90]

The lemon bit is weaker, I just know she's a good wolf and they fit together on a vibe level

never seen lemon wolf, but noted

[Michelle]

Noted. So our zero posters are LimeCoke and DarlingMonroe

Zero posting and his posting night zero makes me think LimeCoke is in his wolf meta.

Is zero posting AI for DarlingMonroe?

I have just one game with Darling Monroe, and I was wolf, so my attention wasn't so big on how town played.
I noticed a big difference in N0 though, I remember Jay could lock town them very early in D1 of that game.
But what if it's the case of an afk townie though?
Brad fits the same pattern, underwhelming N0 and no posts until now.

@DarlingMonroe
@Lime Coke
We need you in the game!

I've seen Lime Coke slank as town, but not for that I'm cut him some slack. I wouldn't want to execute him though, it'd yield no info whatsoever. I'd be ok with him getting killed at night.

I agree, waisting the chop on zero posters is not good for the game regardless alignament.

[nutella]

Nvm I'm saying it now

I have a weird hunch that Cape and Lemon are w/w

It started as just a tickly feeling that they are positioned how they would as wolf comfortably enough in thread to blend in, and townreading each other



But for cape it was kinda clinched with the """slip"""" thing, just for a more complicated reason than guillo thought

So Post 4 of the thread does explicitly tell us that the other thread is West Facility. Guillo didn't read it, embarrassing for him, but this was always public knowledge. HOWEVER, when pressed, Cape did not cite this information at all. He acted more like he had made the assumption somehow.

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine


@Cape90 how do you figure there is a west facility?

I only see this thread.

because there is East? You said yourself the thread was split in two

I assumed we are dealing in opposites because that's kind of Severance did with the whole home and work thing. It could be something else, but with no real theme of this game, I don't know why the split would not be like that

Often when I believe something is actually a slip it's really not (and Cape will know that I just recently mischopped town for a "slip" in classical music mash) but since I already had an indeterminate gut ping on him this did stick out to me, that if he knew it because of the host post he should have just pointed to it but instead it seems like maybe he came by the knowledge from other means

1. My townread on lemonfairy came from this night 0 post #313. That post seemed pretty obviously like Lemonfairy was town, I thought it was their only night 0 post to be honest.

2. I don't even remember who you were for Classical Music Mash, also i dunno, maybe i did see it but thought i made it up, i was really tired when i posted that

alright

can you talk about your thought process on caitlin?

[Michelle]

Lemon posted a reads list without much game presence if my memory serves me right.
For me it's not enough to label her as town.

[nutella]

The lemon bit is weaker, I just know she's a good wolf and they fit together on a vibe level

never seen lemon wolf, but noted

she was wolf with me two halloween mashes ago, the betrayal one, i think you were in it but it was a mash and a while ago so np if you dont remember anything but she went p deep

[Cape90]

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine


@Cape90 how do you figure there is a west facility?

I only see this thread.

#4
^read this post

she did point it out here which could be for cape's benefit but could also be completely benign/neutral w/e

this thought is so dumb for so many reasons, it's clearly directed at Guillo and not me.

[Michelle]

Cape don't forget to answer to my post pls

[nutella]

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine


@Cape90 how do you figure there is a west facility?

I only see this thread.

#4
^read this post

she did point it out here which could be for cape's benefit but could also be completely benign/neutral w/e

this thought is so dumb for so many reasons, it's clearly directed at Guillo and not me.

no i know, i meant more to like cover for you if it was somehow a slip but i recognize that is pretty far fetched and is tangential to the read

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Cape] aubergine

[Sabiplz]

I'm not saying to D1 lc.

I'm just saying someone should sort it out at night