Fallout New Vegas: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [LEGION CONQUEST]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The first spark of conflict ignited over the Mojave, and the region braced for bloodshed. They soon realized that they had all sorely underestimated the threat of Caesar's Legion (or overestimated the strength of the New California Republic). The local NCR contingent crumbled in a single, decisive battle. Hundreds of troopers and rangers lay dead, claimed by the wastes to join their ancient American forebears in the anonymity of destroyed democracy. The New Vegas region, while never entirely amenable to NCR influence, recoiled at the immediacy of their new reality. What powers remain that can stand in the way of Caesar's slavers?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Day 1 Poll

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Day 1 elimination
Poll ended at Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:00 pm


Chelsea
0
No votes
Voters: None
Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
DarlingMonroe
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dunnstral
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
1
5%
Voters: Manny
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
LanMisa
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
1
5%
Voters: Creature
Manny
1
5%
Voters: Chelsea
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Princess Abigail
0
No votes
Voters: None
Scotty
2
10%
Voters: Long Con, Jackofhearts2005
Seanzie
3
14%
Voters: falcon45ca, Epignosis, MacDougall
sig
7
33%
Voters: Dunnstral, Michelle, Seanzie, Scotty, Lime Coke, ☆Princess Abigail☆, LanMisa
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
No elimination / Sleep
0
No votes
Voters: None
No vote / Unvote
1
5%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime
Letting Bethesda ever touch Fallout again (spec)
5
24%
Voters: juliets, JaggedJimmyJay, Justplayingitcool, Thunal33, nutella
Total votes: 21

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME is replacing @DarlingMonroe. Please do not discuss or speculate about substitution decisions in the game thread. You can certainly greet the newcomer, however, when day opens.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

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@Chelsea
@Creature
@Dunnstral
@Epignosis
@falcon45ca
@Jackofhearts2005
@LanMisa
@Lime Coke
@Long Con
@MacDougall
@Manny
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Scotty
@Seanzie
@TonyStarkPrime

Night 1 has ended.

@Michelle has been killed. She was:

Spoiler: show

You are the Bright Brotherhood, civilian.

You have no special abilities.

Disturbed by the Legion's rout of the NCR, the Bright Brotherhood determined that the time had come to make their pilgrimage to the Far Beyond. The NCR had never been terribly kind to ghouls, but they knew the Legion would be liable to shoot them on sight. They hadn't finished preparations yet, but what's the worst that could happen? Naturally, they all exploded and died.

@☆Princess Abigail☆ has been killed. She was:

Spoiler: show

You are the Gun Runners, civilian.

Twice during the game during any separate night phases, you may select a player. That player's vote will be worth two during the following day phase. They are not informed of this publicly, and it is not revealed in the final vote tally.

Times must be hard indeed. Somehow even the Gun Runners Vendotron is dead. That thing is invulnerable! It's literally coded that way into the game! How can this be? OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE. AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Day 2 is underway and will last 48 hours. Vote to eliminate someone (or don't).

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Refer to these post counts to track your Day 2 post cap (this number +100 until the cap lifts one hour prior to the poll deadline).

[MacDougall]

Wow nice kills that heavily point at @Scotty lol.

[Lime Coke]

I managed to hit 69 posts and I wasn't even trying to do that.

[Scotty]

Wow nice kills that heavily point at @Scotty lol.

lol

[MacDougall]

Welp. Fingers crossed on Sig I guess. Bigger chance that flips wolf than Seanzie.

Can we kill him if this flips town?

D1 wagons should be solved anyway

So wolves killing Michelle could be trying to prevent her from doing this, but if the purpose is to protect seanzie the better kill to make is probably me so...

I think it more likely its at least in part meant to make seanzie look worse.

Michelle are you confident in Sig flipping mafia?

Like I'm agreeing with the iso being bad.

I am confident in him being not town

So Michelle eats an NK after being the ringleader of the day 1 miselim? Interesting. Probably not likely if she isn't at least on point elsewhere and a direct threat to at least ONE mafia member.

Wait, maybe not, Michelle, that had too little punctuation to be easily read.

For me it makes sense, sorry if it's hard to read

I got t now. Basically, you think sig isn't Mafia because no one s saving him.

When Eod is so silent and there are some people not posting, if he flips mafia I would look hard at who was absent from Eod

Meh this is shade on me but I'm town.

Yeah there's not much in the ISO that points at Michelle being killed as a threat. A little push on Chelsea and lightly on Brad. Chelsea and Brad have some ... oddness there I'd like to explore but I'm not suggesting Michelle dying is AI to them. So I am t thinking it might be likely she was a 3p kill and Abi was the mafia NK.

[MacDougall]

Can you all just clear me off the NKs though because there's like no fucken world in this game where I use N1 KP on Abi or Michelle and anyone who knows me knows that is true. It's not a slight against them, they are just both entirely unlikely to ever really earnestly trouble me in the way I like to win as a wolf. My KP in this game goes on the likes of Chelsea, Brad, Scotty, Epi and especially Seanzie.

[Scotty]

Wow nice kills that heavily point at @Scotty lol.

look at you coming in with that poignant agenda

I see you

NKs aside, I should have known sig was town when he was just laying down and taking it, acting all wolfy. Typical town sig behavior. Sorry sig.

I’m not town leader today, but I might still postcap

[MacDougall]

Wow nice kills that heavily point at @Scotty lol.

look at you coming in with that poignant agenda

I see you

NKs aside, I should have known sig was town when he was just laying down and taking it, acting all wolfy. Typical town sig behavior. Sorry sig.

I’m not town leader today, but I might still postcap

Homie it's not poignant agenda. It's a straightforward read. The top and third top posters died and you were the second top poster. That points at you in a level 1 way. Trying to dress up a reasonable analysis as agenda is actually wolfier than what merited the read in the first place. Play a straight bat Scotty.

[MacDougall]

Abi, while you’re here and obviously not busy, talk to me about Sig wowee

Uh Mac and Seanzie wagons succ so I'm voting the next biggest wagon I don't explicitly town read

Doubt mafia kills this if Seanzie is mafia. Town Abigail looks like a wolf ally in Seanzie or Mac mafia worlds.

[MacDougall]

So I'm gonna solve in the world that Seanzie is town and that was a DADV EOD for a bit.

[Epignosis]

[MacDougall]

Chelsea, Manny, Scotty, TSP, LC, Jack level 1 POE off wago. Probably 1 between Epi and Falcon due to the RO3 on the Seanzie wagon (unless Seanzie is mafia and I'm misreading the NKA).

Jack's EOD felt the most like "I'm just here so I won't get fined". Scotty at least was progressing the game so I will do the due diligence of trying to read you in good faith and solve with you and see if we can find a way to obv town you through townsiding. Chelsea feels like a reliably likely wolf, though probably not w/w with Manny, who I actually do think is the towniest in the list. Don't think LC hit town notes, and Jack had him as a member of his towncore so @Jackofhearts2005 elaborate on your LC read in a way that I can believe or I'll lock POE you.

@TonyStarkPrime speed up your curve and get towny or die.

@falcon45ca dome @Epignosis.

[MacDougall]

Lower POE

Epi/Falcon
LC
Jack
Chelsea

Talk to me about these reads. Want to hear who disagrees with me and why.

[MacDougall]

@Scotty give me your top 3 town please.

@Seanzie yours too please.

[MacDougall]

@Lime Coke do you have any suspects here? Any thoughts on anything?

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

[Scotty]

Noting that we had 2 deaths last night, and my conclusion is they were both Mafia.
It could be have the town vig, but ngl either of those are absolutely inoptimal town vig shots and I don’t want to operate in that donkey Kong world.

Couldn’t have been any of the aggro indies.
It could have been courier #5. Could have been, I just don’t know what weird agenda they have to kill a top poster like that.

In any case, it’s certainly not townsiding, so I must operate from the assumption, like Mac is doing, that mafia wanted them dead.

@Mackel sorry, I thought for some reason you were pointing to me being the 8 ball in the corner pocket because Michelle had suspected me for some time. Didn’t realize it was a post count thing.

I think it more likely that
-Michelle had…almost no one town reading her, except me early on.
-Abbi was hitting all her town notes and I don’t think anyone would have a good time finding her wolf any time soon.

I would make my case that I’m not scared of keeping around players that find me wolfy, and plus, wolves might just want to keep me around for later miselim fodder. Will see

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Spoiler: show

@Chelsea
@Creature
@Dunnstral
@Epignosis
@falcon45ca
@Jackofhearts2005
@LanMisa
@Lime Coke
@Long Con
@MacDougall
@Manny
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Scotty
@Seanzie
@TonyStarkPrime

Night 1 has ended.

@Michelle has been killed. She was:

Spoiler: show

You are the Bright Brotherhood, civilian.

You have no special abilities.

Disturbed by the Legion's rout of the NCR, the Bright Brotherhood determined that the time had come to make their pilgrimage to the Far Beyond. The NCR had never been terribly kind to ghouls, but they knew the Legion would be liable to shoot them on sight. They hadn't finished preparations yet, but what's the worst that could happen? Naturally, they all exploded and died.

@☆Princess Abigail☆ has been killed. She was:

Spoiler: show

You are the Gun Runners, civilian.

Twice during the game during any separate night phases, you may select a player. That player's vote will be worth two during the following day phase. They are not informed of this publicly, and it is not revealed in the final vote tally.

Times must be hard indeed. Somehow even the Gun Runners Vendotron is dead. That thing is invulnerable! It's literally coded that way into the game! How can this be? OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE. AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Day 2 is underway and will last 48 hours. Vote to eliminate someone (or don't).

Somebody toggled "allow essential deaths" on obvs

[Seanzie]

@Scotty give me your top 3 town please.

@Seanzie yours too please.

Jack
Dunnstral
LanMisa

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

No.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Hello fellow strip citizens how do you do

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Lime] aubergine

[MacDougall]

Noting that we had 2 deaths last night, and my conclusion is they were both Mafia.
It could be have the town vig, but ngl either of those are absolutely inoptimal town vig shots and I don’t want to operate in that donkey Kong world.

Couldn’t have been any of the aggro indies.
It could have been courier #5. Could have been, I just don’t know what weird agenda they have to kill a top poster like that.

In any case, it’s certainly not townsiding, so I must operate from the assumption, like Mac is doing, that mafia wanted them dead.

@Mackel sorry, I thought for some reason you were pointing to me being the 8 ball in the corner pocket because Michelle had suspected me for some time. Didn’t realize it was a post count thing.

I think it more likely that
-Michelle had…almost no one town reading her, except me early on.
-Abbi was hitting all her town notes and I don’t think anyone would have a good time finding her wolf any time soon.

I would make my case that I’m not scared of keeping around players that find me wolfy, and plus, wolves might just want to keep me around for later miselim fodder. Will see

Am I missing something? Why can't it have been the indies?

[MacDougall]

@Scotty give me your top 3 town please.

@Seanzie yours too please.

Jack
Dunnstral
LanMisa

I guess LanMisa is something of a threadspewed townie. I have my doubts on the other two. Can you outline your reasoning?

[Scotty]

Lower POE

Epi/Falcon
LC
Jack
Chelsea

Talk to me about these reads. Want to hear who disagrees with me and why.

I have….no reason to townread any of those names. Jack at least seemed bouncy and solvey towards end of day, which didn’t set off any warning bells. So there’s that.

Chelsea I can’t remember literally anything except the vague impression of an exasperated ‘Manny, play with me!’ (Which is grossly exaggerated but that’s my headcanon)

Falcon is absolutely within his wolf meta. I can usually figure him out over a few days, but not hitting town notes atm.

Epi is probably a computer algorithm and never existed to begin with.

LC had been tunneling me for most the day, which is something I want to figure out for alignment. If anything, I feel his aggressiveness is different than his recent town games that I’ve seen. Far less jokey. But importantly, I might be colored because I seem to be the object of his ire. Scumlean

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Making reads or judgments about the game based upon who you see in the "Who is online" section under the thread

I am once again petitioning to have this feature turned off if we're not allowed to reference it, this continues to be a dumbass rule to have when a solution exists

[Seanzie]

@Scotty give me your top 3 town please.

@Seanzie yours too please.

Jack
Dunnstral
LanMisa

I guess LanMisa is something of a threadspewed townie. I have my doubts on the other two. Can you outline your reasoning?

I don't remember why on Dun, but Jack said something wolfy in a way that I think might actually be townie about us sleepwalking into a Sig elim.

[MacDougall]

Oh did it start?

Also is there a maximum number of posts?

Okay so I didn't actually read the gamestart prior to now but Creature asking this question is a very awkward entrance given there were posts before this and he clearly knew it was starting. This is like the definition of "I dunno what to say". Then the post cap question is like... irrelevant to him considering he ended up 42 posting so it just looks like fluff for the sake of it.

[MacDougall]

Lower POE

Epi/Falcon
LC
Jack
Chelsea

Talk to me about these reads. Want to hear who disagrees with me and why.

I have….no reason to townread any of those names. Jack at least seemed bouncy and solvey towards end of day, which didn’t set off any warning bells. So there’s that.

Chelsea I can’t remember literally anything except the vague impression of an exasperated ‘Manny, play with me!’ (Which is grossly exaggerated but that’s my headcanon)

Falcon is absolutely within his wolf meta. I can usually figure him out over a few days, but not hitting town notes atm.

Epi is probably a computer algorithm and never existed to begin with.

LC had been tunneling me for most the day, which is something I want to figure out for alignment. If anything, I feel his aggressiveness is different than his recent town games that I’ve seen. Far less jokey. But importantly, I might be colored because I seem to be the object of his ire. Scumlean

Sounds like you're on LC duty then.

[MacDougall]

@Scotty give me your top 3 town please.

@Seanzie yours too please.

Jack
Dunnstral
LanMisa

I guess LanMisa is something of a threadspewed townie. I have my doubts on the other two. Can you outline your reasoning?

I don't remember why on Dun, but Jack said something wolfy in a way that I think might actually be townie about us sleepwalking into a Sig elim.

Which was?

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

[Seanzie]

@Scotty give me your top 3 town please.

@Seanzie yours too please.

Jack
Dunnstral
LanMisa

I guess LanMisa is something of a threadspewed townie. I have my doubts on the other two. Can you outline your reasoning?

I don't remember why on Dun, but Jack said something wolfy in a way that I think might actually be townie about us sleepwalking into a Sig elim.

Which was?

I'm on my phone in bed (should be asleep), so I'm not going to go search for a post. It was a shortpost, and I'd guess if you ctrl+f "sleep" in Jack's iso, it will be onvious which one.

'tis not a strong reason, but I don't have strong town fellz about anyone.

[Scotty]

@Scotty give me your top 3 town please.

@Seanzie yours too please.

I should mention because I was thinking of Seanzie- he would’ve been a GREAT vig target.

If we had a vig, I would have assumed they would’ve shot yesterday. I do not think we have a vig (this is all based on how I would play of course)

Anyway, 3 town? Hmmmmm

So I did some thinking in the night and Dunnstral should be town, but I’m actually thinking they could be exactly a deepwolf in the making. The way they were pocketing me was very smooth and I chalked it up to me just being town as shit yesterday (I know, I know, only a few groupies agreed) but I think I might be getting it all wrong. Might be. Too scared to vote there tho.

That didn’t answer your question.

LanMila had some good back and forth. Not tooo blendy, and not scared to make reads.
Ironically, I think you came out of yesterday being pretty towny. I’ve flip flopped on you in my head and will probably do so as the day goes on, but for now you’re town to me.

I was coming around on Creature. He has emerged in the back half of the day as someone I wouldn’t mind borrowing my sugar

[MacDougall]

@Scotty give me your top 3 town please.

@Seanzie yours too please.

Jack
Dunnstral
LanMisa

I guess LanMisa is something of a threadspewed townie. I have my doubts on the other two. Can you outline your reasoning?

I don't remember why on Dun, but Jack said something wolfy in a way that I think might actually be townie about us sleepwalking into a Sig elim.

Which was?

I'm on my phone in bed (should be asleep), so I'm not going to go search for a post. It was a shortpost, and I'd guess if you ctrl+f "sleep" in Jack's iso, it will be onvious which one.

'tis not a strong reason, but I don't have strong town fellz about anyone.

Okay I don't really think it's hard to evidence your reasoning even on a phone but you do you.

[MacDougall]

Much as I don’t see any reason to sleepwalk into another D1-2 Sig shrugyeet, I wouldn’t invoke dadv in this situation considering the number of ppl missing.

Spoiler: show

Also there are a handful of people naysaying the Sig yeet and Brad just moved from Sig to Seanzie. But I don’t scumread the players in question so whatever

If @sig won't come back and cast a vote to tie it up at least, then I just don't know.

How do you expect Sig to play as mafia or as town when he is in chop danger?

I kinda expect him to just not show up at eod regardless of alignment, lady’s man that he is.

Okay you said this post was wolfy but in a towny way. It isn't apparent to me what that means at all. Can you explain your brain function there?

[Scotty]

Seanzie is a name I think should get resolved at some point.

For now:
[VOTE: falcon] aubergine for science

[MacDougall]

But in all seriousness, I think Lime Coke thinks he has a good read on what my town game looks like.

I think it *more* likely, however;l, that he’s TMIing me

Maybe. Or maybe you're the Wolf, and saying that is an attempt to give good mindset vibes to the thread.

This is actually very towny for LC I think. It's an awkward way to frame suspicion for a wolf that has TMI and feels more likely to be genuine.

[MacDougall]

Seanzie is a name I think should get resolved at some point.

For now:
[VOTE: falcon] aubergine for science

I think Seanzie is fairly townie atm.

[Scotty]

Noting that we had 2 deaths last night, and my conclusion is they were both Mafia.
It could be have the town vig, but ngl either of those are absolutely inoptimal town vig shots and I don’t want to operate in that donkey Kong world.

Couldn’t have been any of the aggro indies.
It could have been courier #5. Could have been, I just don’t know what weird agenda they have to kill a top poster like that.

In any case, it’s certainly not townsiding, so I must operate from the assumption, like Mac is doing, that mafia wanted them dead.

@Mackel sorry, I thought for some reason you were pointing to me being the 8 ball in the corner pocket because Michelle had suspected me for some time. Didn’t realize it was a post count thing.

I think it more likely that
-Michelle had…almost no one town reading her, except me early on.
-Abbi was hitting all her town notes and I don’t think anyone would have a good time finding her wolf any time soon.

I would make my case that I’m not scared of keeping around players that find me wolfy, and plus, wolves might just want to keep me around for later miselim fodder. Will see

Am I missing something? Why can't it have been the indies?

Poisoner would die during following night
SK doesn’t activate kill until N2
Arsonist can’t kill and mark in same night

Courier #5 is just ??? Cheese

[MacDougall]

Something something, Brad, something.

Seanzie was this you disliking Brad's page 1? Cuz I'm in catch up and just got to this post and was pretty much about to highlight I think I'm looking at wolf Brad.

[MacDougall]

Also welcome @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME its been ages since we've played together!

[Scotty]

But in all seriousness, I think Lime Coke thinks he has a good read on what my town game looks like.

I think it *more* likely, however;l, that he’s TMIing me

Maybe. Or maybe you're the Wolf, and saying that is an attempt to give good mindset vibes to the thread.

This is actually very towny for LC I think. It's an awkward way to frame suspicion for a wolf that has TMI and feels more likely to be genuine.

Yeah I know you said I have LC duty, but I need to see his approach to other people not named Scotty. Reserving judgment.

[Scotty]

Something something, Brad, something.

Seanzie was this you disliking Brad's page 1? Cuz I'm in catch up and just got to this post and was pretty much about to highlight I think I'm looking at wolf Brad.

I think that is one of the reasons at the time drunken me was like ‘YEAH SEANZIE BE TOWNIN’ because LC was weirdly adamant of my town game in such a TMI way that I think maybe I shouldn’t have dropped that vibe check

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine this feels right

[Seanzie]

Much as I don’t see any reason to sleepwalk into another D1-2 Sig shrugyeet, I wouldn’t invoke dadv in this situation considering the number of ppl missing.

Spoiler: show

Also there are a handful of people naysaying the Sig yeet and Brad just moved from Sig to Seanzie. But I don’t scumread the players in question so whatever

If @sig won't come back and cast a vote to tie it up at least, then I just don't know.

How do you expect Sig to play as mafia or as town when he is in chop danger?

I kinda expect him to just not show up at eod regardless of alignment, lady’s man that he is.

Okay you said this post was wolfy but in a towny way. It isn't apparent to me what that means at all. Can you explain your brain function there?

So this is awkward. The post I was thinking of was actually TSP saying something about tumbling face first into a sig elim. It appears Jack parroted that idea in at least two posts using the "sleepwalking" thing, so I guess that just got my memory wires mixed up.

[Scotty]

Mac, Seanzie, Scotty. Let’s form a posse and pour one {Lime Coke} out for the homies.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Clarification requested:

The "White Legs" role under the Mafia alignment is a 2-shot roleblocker and a 1-shot vigilante.

Please do not interact with this post. Thanks.