The Avengers [ENDGAME]

[Lime Coke]

Townread:
Porschaaaaaaa
Michelle
SVS
Roxy
Long Con
Falcon

Townlean:
Syn
Simon
Lorab


Please Come Back
Dunyaaaaa


Everyone Else:
Abigail Sophia
leetic
motobot
sig
TonyStarkPrime

[Long Con]

And may I say, your coloured list is *the* preeminent list of the game, and I am honoured to be on it.

[Long Con]

Ok. I have been putting off a certain shower, because I'm enjoying playing. BUT I shhh shs hshhh... didn't shower yesterday!

SO... I'm looking forward to this. Talk, but not too much. Everyone gets.... two posts each. Plus a bonus action response post.

[LoRab]

I mean the reality of it is that wilgy is captain america so therefore he's town

people in game pls don't comment on this in ways that reveal information about your role (against the rules), keep all speculation above ground

And you know that how?

need to think about Lorab trying to push for info where/how she knows she shouldn't.

Huh?

If they knew "that" through their role, talking about it is forbidden.

Is that role fishing or not?

Not at all. I don’t think TSP would info dump. He’s an ethical player (and info dumping is against the rules). I was merely asking why he thought that.

[Michelle]

I think I have to sleep because my eyes don't want to cooperate anymore, if I stop posting, you know why.

Feeling good about my town read on Long Con

[Lime Coke]

I think I have to sleep because my eyes don't want to cooperate anymore, if I stop posting, you know why.

Feeling good about my town read on Long Con

Yeah you're fine Michelle, thank you. <3

[Michelle]

I mean the reality of it is that wilgy is captain america so therefore he's town

people in game pls don't comment on this in ways that reveal information about your role (against the rules), keep all speculation above ground

And you know that how?

need to think about Lorab trying to push for info where/how she knows she shouldn't.

Huh?

If they knew "that" through their role, talking about it is forbidden.

Is that role fishing or not?

Not at all. I don’t think TSP would info dump. He’s an ethical player (and info dumping is against the rules). I was merely asking why he thought that.

That's fair
I took it as a theory, I didn't even consider it as info dump, rather as a proof he knows very well everyone's abilities in the avengers stories

[Michelle]

I think I have to sleep because my eyes don't want to cooperate anymore, if I stop posting, you know why.

Feeling good about my town read on Long Con

Yeah you're fine Michelle, thank you. <3

I don't think we have the night open again

[LoRab]

I’ve now changed my mind multiple times about Brad over the course of my catch up read. And I’m ending on thinking he’s not bad. His frustration reads as frustrated civ, not cornered baddie.

Adding, if multiple people have posited that wigly was cap, mainly because he survived the lynch, then it’s likely safe to assume that the baddies considered that and therefore killed him (assuming they actually targeted him).

I do agree that LC2’s analysis of wiggly entirely underestimates an excellent player, but being wrong doesn’t mean being bad.

For now, I’m going to listen to Mr Coke, and vote Leticia, at least for the moment. I may change my mind and vote elsewhere. I need to ponder. But don’t want to forget to vote.

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

[leetic]

So, things ain't looking good here, so I might have to converge for self-pres. I don't like the AS or sig wagons for reasons I've already expressed. S~V~S... eh. I have a tendency to be skeptical towards players that townread me in a thread climate that's very much against me, but the progression reads decently enough and I've used some of her tells as town before, so I cann see the mindset. So, besides Brad, that leaves... Porscha? I mean, a lot of her posts have been pretty dismissive, and she was hedging on me for a while until suddenly changing her mind simply due to a Brad post, and her vote on Wilgy wasn't impressive either. So yeah, I would not be opposed to a vote there.

[leetic]

I mean, I can see one perspective where Brad's hard tunneling could come from a towny perspective, although I can't truly confirm whether it's the case as well. Porscha's progression looks bad all around, and TSP seems decently towny here, so why not [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

[LoRab]

Also from my reread, I’m undecided on SVS. I get where she is coming from, but my eyebrow raised a few ties in rereading. Also undecided on LC. For now, I think they are both civvie, but with a grain of salt.

As for the moto suspicion, I’m just going to note that we don’t know if this game has a silencer. It’s possible he hasn’t posted at all this round is because he can’t. As silencing is usually a baddie power, I need to look back at who has mentioned him. As that seems suspish. (Wasn’t paying attention to who was saying it while reading, so honestly need to check that).

[leetic]

Like I'm legit pulling the fuck back Day 3 if we get Leetic out, especially if he flips mafia.

I want this vote so bad though, you have no idea.

Might want to change your plans, because spoiler alert I'm not gonna flip wolf. You can seek redemption, however, by getting off this bad tunnel.

[leetic]

Also from my reread, I’m undecided on SVS. I get where she is coming from, but my eyebrow raised a few ties in rereading. Also undecided on LC. For now, I think they are both civvie, but with a grain of salt.

As for the moto suspicion, I’m just going to note that we don’t know if this game has a silencer. It’s possible he hasn’t posted at all this round is because he can’t. As silencing is usually a baddie power, I need to look back at who has mentioned him. As that seems suspish. (Wasn’t paying attention to who was saying it while reading, so honestly need to check that).

Silencing is something I'd announce as host, as I feel not doing so is bastard (especially if there re penalties for inactivity), though other hosts might do it differently. motobot doesn't seem like a particularly active player, so inactivity seems the more likely cause in any case.

[LoRab]

Also from my reread, I’m undecided on SVS. I get where she is coming from, but my eyebrow raised a few ties in rereading. Also undecided on LC. For now, I think they are both civvie, but with a grain of salt.

As for the moto suspicion, I’m just going to note that we don’t know if this game has a silencer. It’s possible he hasn’t posted at all this round is because he can’t. As silencing is usually a baddie power, I need to look back at who has mentioned him. As that seems suspish. (Wasn’t paying attention to who was saying it while reading, so honestly need to check that).

Silencing is something I'd announce as host, as I feel not doing so is bastard (especially if there re penalties for inactivity), though other hosts might do it differently. motobot doesn't seem like a particularly active player, so inactivity seems the more likely cause in any case.

I’ve generally seen silencing not announced. Like, I can’t think offhand about that being something announced. It’s a more powerful power that way.

And I don’t think there’s a post requirement in this game.

[motobot]

Also from my reread, I’m undecided on SVS. I get where she is coming from, but my eyebrow raised a few ties in rereading. Also undecided on LC. For now, I think they are both civvie, but with a grain of salt.

As for the moto suspicion, I’m just going to note that we don’t know if this game has a silencer. It’s possible he hasn’t posted at all this round is because he can’t. As silencing is usually a baddie power, I need to look back at who has mentioned him. As that seems suspish. (Wasn’t paying attention to who was saying it while reading, so honestly need to check that).

Silencing is something I'd announce as host, as I feel not doing so is bastard (especially if there re penalties for inactivity), though other hosts might do it differently. motobot doesn't seem like a particularly active player, so inactivity seems the more likely cause in any case.

sorry I was gone pretty much all day today but I'm back now.

[LoRab]

So, not silenced!

@motobot why did you vote Abigail?

[motobot]

She just seems different from when she is town. She doesn't post much normally, but it seems more like she's more focused on taking everything in instead of posting often. But that's just my thoughts.

[Long Con]

Falcon really fell off the map.

[Long Con]

Spoiler: show

That's understandable, I get that. Differences in my mind are that LC did not say that, or anything, to answer my question, but framed it in somewhat demeaning light

By "demeaning", you mean "accusational", right?

Syn expressed he had similar thoughts re: Simon, and was intending to follow up as well

I also had similar thoughts re: Simon, and then I realized that picking apart exactly what his definition of "a lot" is would be a little pedantic and bullying, and wouldn't likely bear any game-relevant fruit, so I chose not to do it. Why would you focus on something so nitpicky? What result did you imagine coming from it besides maybe Simon having less confidence in speaking his mind, for fear that it's going to be linguistically dissected and get him called out on whatever minor definitional discrepancy you decide to pounce on?

I'm trying to be as helpful as possible for you to understand where I'm coming from here, because I was less concise and more reactionary in my stance last night.

No, I think calling my question a "limp noodle" is somewhat demeaning






I asked Simon one question, and it seems as tho you are trying to make it sound as if it's my sole focus...the fact that you are now saying you also felt the way I did re: Simon's post is interesting, as your reaction to my question is quite different than Simon's, or Syns, or anybody...even tho you felt the same






Simon's answer to my question was fine, and made sense to me, as I've had the same experience. You're taking a lot of exception on his behalf... @Simon do you feel I was being pedantic, bullying, predatory, or have less confidence to speak your mind?






Does anyone else?

Not as much as others who have recently been interpreting this.

Let's just say that I've never been good with my choice of words. To the point where in this context, I felt as if one wrong word could change the course of someone's innocence. And when you asked me that "a lot" or "twice" question, it wasn't looking too good for me.

However that all supposedly changed when this one question also managed to spark a bit of discord among others. Even now, I still can't tell if a smart move or not.

Actually, what if it's possible that falcon has intentionally been trying to find something among the nothingness to start an Argument, and I just so happened to be the prey.

I previously mentioned that my process of thought was that one little thing can change a lot on someone. It's not confirmed if I was specifically supposed to be a target, and it definitely is a stretch.

I don't know though, I'm just considering possible situations that would make sense to me.

If Falcon was intentionally trying to start an argument, what does that make you think of him? Is he more Towny because he's trying to generate content? Or is it Wolfy to treat you as "prey"?

Apologies for the inactivity and late answer. But, with that being said, I was the one who originally generated the content, weather it was intentional or not. In fact, Falcon was the one who originally added on to it.

The way I made it sound made falcon look somewhat wolfy. I'm not sure if we were told what the independent characters ( Thanos and Deadpool )in this game are supposed to be doing, mostly just because I'm usually living under a rock when it comes to announcements.

But if one of those objectives just so happens have me on a wanted list or something, then everything that I have previously speculated wouldn't be so farfetched.

This is a politician's non-answer. Actually pretty impressive.

[Roxy]

Falcon really fell off the map.

Not defending falcon at all but I know his band is doing some sort of charity event. Not sure on the timing of it.

[Roxy]

@Porscha you seem to be think that the mafia didn't target wigly.
Why?
Who else could it have been?
Do you think the mafia don't have a kill?

[Long Con]

Falcon really fell off the map.

Not defending falcon at all but I know his band is doing some sort of charity event. Not sure on the timing of it.

Oh, well if he's that much cooler than me, I of course withdraw the criticism.

[Abigail Sophia]

She just seems different from when she is town. She doesn't post much normally, but it seems more like she's more focused on taking everything in instead of posting often. But that's just my thoughts.

Wdym taking everything in? I barely know what's going on because of all the fights.

If one of us is playing differently, it's you with your empty accusations and ghosting.

[Roxy]

It's now or never for me leetic gets my vote.

[leetic]

She just seems different from when she is town. She doesn't post much normally, but it seems more like she's more focused on taking everything in instead of posting often. But that's just my thoughts.

Wdym taking everything in? I barely know what's going on because of all the fights.

If one of us is playing differently, it's you with your empty accusations and ghosting.

Give us a vote, I want to see where your head's at.

[leetic]

Well, it seems I'm dead (this is one time where a CFD would be good actually). Just remember my legacy, Wilgy is town.

[leetic]

Wolves are probably pretty comfortable right now.

[leetic]

Not fond of Syn's willingness to throw shit around earlier but now just staying on a lame vanity wagon. I'd be surprised if my wagon was pure, but stranger things have happened.

[leetic]

She just seems different from when she is town. She doesn't post much normally, but it seems more like she's more focused on taking everything in instead of posting often. But that's just my thoughts.

Wdym taking everything in? I barely know what's going on because of all the fights.

If one of us is playing differently, it's you with your empty accusations and ghosting.

Give us a vote, I want to see where your head's at.

Seems AS is just willing to crossvote motobot. Doesn't really move the needle either way.

[leetic]

Who knows, maybe I'll be saved by Loki! Seems unlikely though

[TonyStarkPrime]

“Who kills Wilgy” is actually an interesting NKA question

the question already assumes too much imo

smh

[TonyStarkPrime]

incredibly bad tweet

[TonyStarkPrime]

vote porscha that's a wolf

[Simon]

Abigail Sophia didn't actually comment on me but voted for me. Curious.

@Abigail Sophia, why did you click on me?

When I voted, you and Long Con were tied. I didn't want my vote to not matter.

The only person I had any suspicions of was Moto (because he accused LC for seemingly no reason) I didn't want Long Con to be ejected just because of that

I don't know you very well but others were commenting on how you made "wolfy posts" I didn't see it myself but I decided to go with the crowd

I made a mistake and I am sorry

This post still doesn't sit right with me. Instead of Abigail asking moto for any reason as to why he was suspicious of LC, she just voted for wilgy instead. And then the other part of this response ( about wilgy having wolfy posts) suggests that Abigail probably didn't try to find anything interesting, let alone share anything about her own opinions, if she even had any at all. Granted, she probably didn't have a lot of time before d1 ended at the time.

Even if this response was the honest truth, it still seems like an illogical move, and that there were better ways to handle it.

[TonyStarkPrime]

i need more whiskey for this gimme a sec

[TonyStarkPrime]

update I've lost my whiskey

[TonyStarkPrime]

it tastes like shit

[leetic]

Simon, AS, and motobot seem to be in their own world. I suppose that's something the rest of you'll have to figure out

[Abigail Sophia]

She just seems different from when she is town. She doesn't post much normally, but it seems more like she's more focused on taking everything in instead of posting often. But that's just my thoughts.

Wdym taking everything in? I barely know what's going on because of all the fights.

If one of us is playing differently, it's you with your empty accusations and ghosting.

Give us a vote, I want to see where your head's at.

Seems AS is just willing to crossvote motobot. Doesn't really move the needle either way.

I already made that mistake with Wilgy...I don't completely understand what's going on with that fight so I'm staying out of it

[leetic]

She just seems different from when she is town. She doesn't post much normally, but it seems more like she's more focused on taking everything in instead of posting often. But that's just my thoughts.

Wdym taking everything in? I barely know what's going on because of all the fights.

If one of us is playing differently, it's you with your empty accusations and ghosting.

Give us a vote, I want to see where your head's at.

Seems AS is just willing to crossvote motobot. Doesn't really move the needle either way.

I already made that mistake with Wilgy...I don't completely understand what's going on with that fight so I'm staying out of it

Why not join us on Porscha? Your vote won't have an impact on a vanity wagon

[TonyStarkPrime]

I fell asleep after a full IRL day (the schedule chamged out of the blue) and I can't catch up so fast..

why are you voting Brad, @S~V~S ?

I think he's potentially bad

He went into a No U spiral when leetic voted for him, I actually think leetic is town, and I strongly disliked how he tried to dismiss Wilgy as a threat below his notice if he were bad.

Why are you voting for leetic?

I town read Brad. I know him, we played a lot and he was my hydra partner in MU games in December.
His way of talking doesn't match with a wolf, he wanted leetic's reads and he is very stubborn in his request.
It's a too narrow focus for a wolf to have.

yeah do kinda agree on brad but noting that I think thsat this is a ~weird~ way to express it. not putting much negative stock on it though, michelle is a pretty perceptive player who picks up on different things than me

[TonyStarkPrime]

She just seems different from when she is town. She doesn't post much normally, but it seems more like she's more focused on taking everything in instead of posting often. But that's just my thoughts.

Wdym taking everything in? I barely know what's going on because of all the fights.

If one of us is playing differently, it's you with your empty accusations and ghosting.

Give us a vote, I want to see where your head's at.

Seems AS is just willing to crossvote motobot. Doesn't really move the needle either way.

I already made that mistake with Wilgy...I don't completely understand what's going on with that fight so I'm staying out of it

Why not join us on Porscha? Your vote won't have an impact on a vanity wagon

bargaining, third stage

[leetic]

Note that I have seen wolves perform stupid tunnels before, so that alone is not a reason to clear Brad

[Abigail Sophia]

Abigail Sophia didn't actually comment on me but voted for me. Curious.

@Abigail Sophia, why did you click on me?

When I voted, you and Long Con were tied. I didn't want my vote to not matter.

The only person I had any suspicions of was Moto (because he accused LC for seemingly no reason) I didn't want Long Con to be ejected just because of that

I don't know you very well but others were commenting on how you made "wolfy posts" I didn't see it myself but I decided to go with the crowd

I made a mistake and I am sorry

This post still doesn't sit right with me. Instead of Abigail asking moto for any reason as to why he was suspicious of LC, she just voted for wilgy instead. And then the other part of this response ( about wilgy having wolfy posts) suggests that Abigail probably didn't try to find anything interesting, let alone share anything about her own opinions, if she even had any at all. Granted, she probably didn't have a lot of time before d1 ended at the time.

Even if this response was the honest truth, it still seems like an illogical move, and that there were better ways to handle it.

Moto was already asked and I didn't see him give any explanation

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think there's a good reason to think Leetic is town. Don't vote for Leetic. I think given this we should trust Leetic's defense of AS. Don't vote for AS. We can go from there.

Don't know if this gets taken back or discussed but I thought it was relevant.

Up to this post, I'm not particularly suspicious of leetic. But Brad is so inflamed about it that I am happy to see the votes stack up anyways! Mwa ha haaaaa!! LC Connection baby YEAH!

Right now I'll [VOTE: S~V~S] aubergine, and when that goes nowhere, I'll hippity hop on over to leetic as a show of amicability. Or will it be the deciding vote by that point??

FIND OUT, in.... The Future!

ok so for the purpose of saying this because I forgot about closed role cop meta, I don't have a cop result for leetic (not that I could say if I did) and I don't want the perceptive few to necessarily take stock in that

honestly I hate closed role meta and if I did have a cop result for leetic I'd avoid anytthing that looks like closed role cop meta

[Simon]

She just seems different from when she is town. She doesn't post much normally, but it seems more like she's more focused on taking everything in instead of posting often. But that's just my thoughts.

Wdym taking everything in? I barely know what's going on because of all the fights.

If one of us is playing differently, it's you with your empty accusations and ghosting.

Give us a vote, I want to see where your head's at.

Seems AS is just willing to crossvote motobot. Doesn't really move the needle either way.

I already made that mistake with Wilgy...I don't completely understand what's going on with that fight so I'm staying out of it

But that's my point, instead of trying to speculate anything, you're just trying to stay out of things. You're pretty much just taking the easy way out of everything, and now you have little to no information whatsoever. Quite disappointing I would say.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Note that I have seen wolves perform stupid tunnels before, so that alone is not a reason to clear Brad

yeah but have you seen w!Brad perform a stupid tunnel? cause I've seen t!brad do it like not to be mean but a lot of times

[leetic]

Note that I have seen wolves perform stupid tunnels before, so that alone is not a reason to clear Brad

yeah but have you seen w!Brad perform a stupid tunnel? cause I've seen t!brad do it like not to be mean but a lot of times

As mentioned before, my experience with w!Brad is two games where we were in separate threads and one where he was the lazy head of a hydra.

[TonyStarkPrime]

So if SVS is right then wilgy can be town after all, which probably looks worse for lorab

Why? Because I point out technical possibilities? That’s what I always do.

Has to do with the wording a bit

Thanks. I appreciate the clarification.

is that sarcastic casue that barely counts as clarification -- I could provide a way more specific clarification if you had pressed