Napoleon Dynamite Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Scotty]

I feel lonely. Only DDL acknowledges my existence. Jibay doesn't count, he just likes to @mention people. No suspicion and no good vibes for Daisy. I must be everyone's nullest null that ever nulled or something.

PS Napoleon Dynamite was every bit as boring as I remember it being. I'm not sure I even finished it when it was first out.

Hi Daisy. This post vaults you into slight town for me, if it’s any consolation.

That you don’t want to be a blendy smoothie is nice

[Thunal33]

Yes Im aware that isnt exactly what they said, they said they are town and THEN said maybe the curse is over. But if the curse is not over they can't be town right?

Irks me irks me irks me

Well there is the case.

I thought the curse was over two weeks ago when I randed town in a Org game
Then I randed wolf in a mash last week and in the turbo last weekend
Randing town now gave me hope, but it's not enough to claim the curse to be over!

Hi Wisdom!

I think you're town right now so that's cool.

Is it just a vibe thing, or otherwise? I've never played with them, and that one post felt manipulative to me rather than salty.

@Epignosis what is going to happen to No-Shows?
Jackofhearts2005
le petit poussin
motobot
NOOK


starting some paperwork I'll be around at points today.

for your second post in the game to be inquiring about no-shows, feels a bit bossy and disgenuine imo. like, i didn't even know day 0 had started and showed up on day 1. feels a bit like busywork to me when day 1 is still not even halfway through.

also the rules say to PM the host and not tag him in the game if you want to ask questions so feels doubly disgenuine-busy-work to me because you know he won't qualify that with an actual answer.

negative points

I want to hear from her about this. Rox is usually the first one to extend low posters some grace, especially on day one, so i found this surprising for her. The fact that she asked the host question could just be breezing in/out; I find that bit NAI.

@Syn what's wolf about scotty

I'm curious about that, too. All of his posts were day zero. Generally Scotty is chatty regardless of affiliation, and fairly aggressive either way. Silence is something I'm not used to seeing from him, and can't interpret. He has not played in some time, so it could be related to that. I need to see game related posts from him.

So I'd like to see what Syn is seeing that I am not, or if he's seeing nothing and put that out there to gauge reactions?

If I go with my gut on page 1, Syn's the only wolf that's been online.

Mostly because I recently finished a game with him where he was obvtowning right from the get go, mainly because he seemed to have a fun time

I don't really have a good track record in reading him though, but at least he's not as towny now as he was then.

Vote##Syn

That ^^ feels a bit like equivocating; "well, I sus Syn the most, but just in case he gets yeeted and flips town, here's my excuse for voting for him".

So I saw nothing else to catch my eye aside from Wisdom. I have a few people I have clear town feels on, and most I need to see more on topic posts. So I'll drop a vote there for now [VOTE: Wisdom] aubergine. Like I said up there ^^ that one post felt manipulative rather than salty, but I'm not married to this vote, since this is my first experience with Wisdom.

Welcome @Jibay !

I know that Wisdom gets suspected d1 a lot as town and I thought her reaction to it was towny. It resonates with my own mindset towards suspicion as town including RVS suspicion which is that I don’t like it and just want to solve without having to defend myself, while as wolf I sometimes enjoy the challenge of being under pressure.

[Thunal33]

I’m quite content with being a blendy smoothie until I get a grasp on the game.

I think not wanting to be blendy is a little towny for Daisy though especially if that’s how she solves.

[Thunal33]

I'll never understand what prompts players to yell about how town they are in their first post.

and then qualify their own self-read with a statistic(s) stating how often they have been bad/town or when the last time was that they were bad. so fun....and very, very believable

What’s your actual read on the people that did this? Because you’re saying it isn’t believable but I’m wondering if you were actually sus of me or DDL at this time.

[Scotty]

thunal, how you feel about me bud?

Gosh

[Syn]

@Syn what's wolf about scotty

yeah

[Jackofhearts2005]

Oh yeah this started. Whats up ya’ll?

[Syn]

Wow just started and @dunya just overflow the feed , indeed last time @dunya played I directly said it's @Le petit poussin and I was right , and my gut's say the same but that maybe it's because he the only one I know iRL except @dunya and @Spacedaisy

Psht, I'm not even top poster @Jibay that's @Dragon D. Luffy

@Spacedaisy and I tried rewatching napoleon dynamite tonight and I fell asleep after an hour tbh. I feel I missed out like what happened with Pedro did he win class president in the end?

I believe this should answer your question

really great movie tbhtbh tbh

[Syn]

through careful science, I have deduced scotty is a wolf

Wrongo, syn

Deduction denied

No, you have to refute his scientific proofs.

Proof: Scotty is not a wolf

Given Facts:
1. Syn’s Accusation: Syn has accused Scotty of being a wolf.
2. Scotty’s Behavior (Point A): Scotty has made no pertinent claims or stances prior to Day 1.
3. Point B is Undefined: There is no connection between Point A and Point B.
4. Scotty’s Biology: Scotty is bipedal and does not have a tail.
5. Syn’s Knowledge (or Lack Thereof): Syn is using the word “deduction” without sufficient information.
6. The Apple Analogy: A person cannot accurately deduce which apple is rotten in a box of 200 apples when they can only see 20.
7. The Cleveland Browns: The Cleveland Browns will never win a Super Bowl.

Proof:

Step 1: Identify Known Facts
From the given facts, we know that Scotty is bipedal (i.e., two legs) and lacks a tail, which is atypical of wolves. This immediately raises a strong point against the accusation. In fact, a wolf would typically have four legs and a tail, but Scotty only has two legs and no tail. Conclusion: Scotty is not a wolf based on basic zoology.

Step 2: Apply Syn’s Deduction (or Lack Thereof)
Syn claims to be using “deduction,” but let’s recall the apple analogy: one cannot deduce which apple is rotten in a box of 200 apples when only 20 are visible. Similarly, Syn doesn’t have enough information to accurately deduce Scotty’s status as a wolf. Just like picking a random apple and guessing it’s rotten (without looking at all the apples), Syn’s deduction is flawed. Conclusion: Syn’s deduction lacks the necessary data to be valid.

Step 3: The Cleveland Browns
The Cleveland Browns will never win a Super Bowl. This fact, while not directly related to Scotty’s wolf status, serves as an important reminder: just because something seems possible doesn’t make it likely. In the same way, just because Syn accuses Scotty of being a wolf, doesn’t make it true. Conclusion: Accusations, like Super Bowl victories for the Browns, are often wishful thinking.

Step 4: Final Conclusion
Given the biological facts, the logical flaws in Syn’s “deduction,” and the general lack of relevant data, it is clear that Scotty is not a wolf.

Q.E.D.

genuinely a good poast

[Syn]

every vote for wisdom makes a puppy whimper

[Syn]

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

omg, open setup, no role claiming game by Epi? Is this 2015?

Love it.

But seriously

[Jackofhearts2005]

I need a new avatar cause I’m not playing TITS anymore

[Jackofhearts2005]

Gimme some o' that [VOTE: tetherball] aubergine please.

I'm in the same boat as S~V~S. If you Don't vote, View results, then you will not be able to vote in the poll. BUT then you won't know if you're voting for one already taken so...

Hi! My town streak continues.

It's been over 3 years since the last time I was mafia.

Well mine isn’t quite that long. But this is the 6th (non turbo) game in a row I’ve been town and I’m loving the change from 2023 where I randed non-town in half my games.

I was Mafia in my last game. I won. My secret weapon was forgetting about the game.

Town.

Haven’t lost a fucking step.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I am here, and I want them [VOTE: Tots] aubergine

Hi Motbot. I’m Jack and I’m unyeetable. Nice to meet you.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Vote



And wait for info

[Jackofhearts2005]

What I feel like I wanna do is Google the actor from this. I remember that he was like a huge phenom at that time, and after that faded away, I don't recall ever really hearing about him again. And he was pretty talented, he must have done something, just not anything I saw.

His list of roles is super depressing cause it’s like this movie and then a list of garbo.

[Jackofhearts2005]

People aren't accusing each other yet and I feel like creating a crappy case on someone just to get discussion rolling but last game I did that and it was too crappy even for D1 standards, so instead if got everybody to make fun of me so I think this time I'll just shitpost until someone else does that work for me.

Pretend I'm a wolf and case me, awoo!

Hi! My town streak continues.

It's been over 3 years since the last time I was mafia.

Well mine isn’t quite that long. But this is the 6th (non turbo) game in a row I’ve been town and I’m loving the change from 2023 where I randed non-town in half my games.

I feel ya! I've had a 75% wolf rate since last summer so I'm just glad I got to town again, maybe the curse is over!

Maybe it's not.

[VOTE: Wisdom] aubergine

In a vacuum, I think DDL seems townie but this looks like w/w flirting.

[Spacedaisy]

Spoiler: show

through careful science, I have deduced scotty is a wolf

Wrongo, syn

Deduction denied

No, you have to refute his scientific proofs.

Proof: Scotty is not a wolf

Given Facts:
1. Syn’s Accusation: Syn has accused Scotty of being a wolf.
2. Scotty’s Behavior (Point A): Scotty has made no pertinent claims or stances prior to Day 1.
3. Point B is Undefined: There is no connection between Point A and Point B.
4. Scotty’s Biology: Scotty is bipedal and does not have a tail.
5. Syn’s Knowledge (or Lack Thereof): Syn is using the word “deduction” without sufficient information.
6. The Apple Analogy: A person cannot accurately deduce which apple is rotten in a box of 200 apples when they can only see 20.
7. The Cleveland Browns: The Cleveland Browns will never win a Super Bowl.

Proof:

Step 1: Identify Known Facts
From the given facts, we know that Scotty is bipedal (i.e., two legs) and lacks a tail, which is atypical of wolves. This immediately raises a strong point against the accusation. In fact, a wolf would typically have four legs and a tail, but Scotty only has two legs and no tail. Conclusion: Scotty is not a wolf based on basic zoology.

Step 2: Apply Syn’s Deduction (or Lack Thereof)
Syn claims to be using “deduction,” but let’s recall the apple analogy: one cannot deduce which apple is rotten in a box of 200 apples when only 20 are visible. Similarly, Syn doesn’t have enough information to accurately deduce Scotty’s status as a wolf. Just like picking a random apple and guessing it’s rotten (without looking at all the apples), Syn’s deduction is flawed. Conclusion: Syn’s deduction lacks the necessary data to be valid.

Step 3: The Cleveland Browns
The Cleveland Browns will never win a Super Bowl. This fact, while not directly related to Scotty’s wolf status, serves as an important reminder: just because something seems possible doesn’t make it likely. In the same way, just because Syn accuses Scotty of being a wolf, doesn’t make it true. Conclusion: Accusations, like Super Bowl victories for the Browns, are often wishful thinking.

Step 4: Final Conclusion
Given the biological facts, the logical flaws in Syn’s “deduction,” and the general lack of relevant data, it is clear that Scotty is not a wolf.

Q.E.D.

SCotty, I have sincerely missed playing with you.

[Spacedaisy]

I don’t mind this Roxy counterwagon. Her approach so far isn’t accusatory of anyone, and without giving away too much (so she doesn’t influence what she does) isn’t hitting the notes I usually associate with town Roxy.

But she’s barely entered so I want to give her time to simmer

Wisdom, however, has plenty of posts and most come off as filler posts.

I especially found it odd when they started getting SAUCY about being a D1 leading wagon as town when only 1 person had voted for them. ‘I’m never wolf in a game where I’m lead wagon on D1’ is definitely a statement. Sounds like a wolf upset with garnering suspicion and trying to fend it off early with some actual facts.

But it could also be said that it is possible to find a Wisdom as wolf on D1 in a lead wagon situation, yes?

I don't fully understand why people are piling on Rox, but if she is town, she's got a keen intuition for finding wolves and I'd hate to vote that early. I'm open to trying to understand why though.

[Spacedaisy]

I’m quite content with being a blendy smoothie until I get a grasp on the game.

I think not wanting to be blendy is a little towny for Daisy though especially if that’s how she solves.

Honestly, it's nothing to do with alignment and entirely due to recent gameplay. I've been such a no show, I'm hoping engaging in conversation with people more will help me stay engaged, despite having other responsibilities too.

[Spacedaisy]

I like Jack's entrance. Hello again, Jack!

[Spacedaisy]

I am here, and I want them [VOTE: Tots] aubergine

Hi Motbot. I’m Jack and I’m unyeetable. Nice to meet you.

Why are you unyeetable? Does no one ever want to yeet you anymore? Have you become a cuddly teddy bear since the last time I played with you? I must know.

[Lime Coke]

I gotta look at this when I can actually get my head into this the only thing I have in terms of reads gained was Dunya being town.

She might be right with Roxy talking about the no-shows, it felt a bit weird to me.

[Thunal33]

thunal, how you feel about me bud?

Gosh

Right now I don't have a good read on you. But also I'm actually going to sit down and reread the thread to get more solid takes.

[Thunal33]

My unorganized notes:

Spoiler: show

Kind of like Syn saying Scotty is a wolf first thing. #29
But then Wisdom does have a point about him not being so enthusiastic and I know he prefers being town. I’ll give him time prob
DDL slight town for thinking of making a crappy case actually no I forgot I shouldn’t use narration as a towntell

#58 #59 definitely leaps out to me as paranoid villager focusing on something that isn’t that AI but would be harder for a wolf to notice.

#61 from Wisdom can go either way but #71 provides context that makes it towny imo. I know she gets wagoned d1 as town and I think she’d be more trusting of her ability to avoid the elim as a wolf.

#73 Lime Coke townreads SVS - slight good look

#76 Roxy wolf with a no show?
#79 feels like unnecessary shade - afaik Roxy didn’t actually suspect anyone who made a statement they were town. However I have a tendency to suspect Roxy regardless of her alignment.

#98 slight towny point for dunya because it feels like she’s really evaluating if her reads were right.

#101 dunya was the first to go after Roxy

#107 is consistent with my note that Wisdom thinks she has her best reads as town d2/d3

#115 from DDL, slight negative point because he assumes Roxy is starting an inactive hunt

#117 towny reaction to Daisy’s slip accusation

#128 is towny from DDL - worried about the future of the game for town specifically
I forgot I shouldn’t use that as a tell either lol

Slight town points that SVS wanted to see and engage with my townread on Wisdom.

#134 Long Con’s vote for Roxy - no strong AI feelings

#142 ??? Why is Scotty agreeing when that was not what Wisdom said

#148 but Scotty is a dog so he lied

#149 Scotty did odd tell and it feels like he’s trying to fit Wisdom’s stance into a wolf shaped mold

#168 somewhat wolfy post from Jack that he townreads DDL but still comes to the thought him/Wisdom are w/w. Not an impossible jump but one I don’t find all that likely.

[falcon45ca]

I AM TOWN!




Well the Universe is shaped exactly like the Earth, if you go straight long enough you'll end up where you were

And another had been found, another ocean on the planet, given that our blood Is just like the Atlantic.

This guy gets it



I've not read anything, got any luke warm impressions?

[falcon45ca]

gimme dat milk

I remember nothing from this movie

I don't believe this to be true

[Thunal33]

thunal, how you feel about me bud?

Gosh

Right now I don't have a good read on you. But also I'm actually going to sit down and reread the thread to get more solid takes.

I'm going to revise this. I don't feel that good about you. Why did you agree with DDL's take that Wisdom said she was maybe town when that wasn't what she said?

Wisdom saying that maybe they are town is irking.

+1 because I thought the same thing on reading. Comes off as busybody nothing agreement

I don’t mind this Roxy counterwagon. Her approach so far isn’t accusatory of anyone, and without giving away too much (so she doesn’t influence what she does) isn’t hitting the notes I usually associate with town Roxy.

But she’s barely entered so I want to give her time to simmer

Wisdom, however, has plenty of posts and most come off as filler posts.

I especially found it odd when they started getting SAUCY about being a D1 leading wagon as town when only 1 person had voted for them. ‘I’m never wolf in a game where I’m lead wagon on D1’ is definitely a statement. Sounds like a wolf upset with garnering suspicion and trying to fend it off early with some actual facts.

But it could also be said that it is possible to find a Wisdom as wolf on D1 in a lead wagon situation, yes?

This post also felt off to me and I typed up and retracted a couple possible reasons why. I was bothered by the red line and it might be because I've seen wolves do this when they're worried about villagers they're pushing clearing themselves through emotion.

However Syndicate culture is super different from MU with how people react to others getting frustrated with suspicion so it might not be a valid point here. I've seen a lot more people here get suspicious because someone gets frustrated and a lot fewer people here clear someone for frustration.

[Thunal33]

I AM TOWN!




Well the Universe is shaped exactly like the Earth, if you go straight long enough you'll end up where you were

And another had been found, another ocean on the planet, given that our blood Is just like the Atlantic.

This guy gets it



I've not read anything, got any luke warm impressions?

DDL and SVS being town are the two impressions I have any confidence in.

[Long Con]

Scotty's data checks out; apparently he's objectively Town.

Oh yeah this started. Whats up ya’ll?

Jack! I didn't even cognitively realize you were in this one until now. I have an tiny owl on my snowy lawn and it's eating a pigeon that my husky killed!

I need a new avatar cause I’m not playing TITS anymore

Let me craft you an artifact of exquisite rarity. Simply speak it and it shall be.

I don’t mind this Roxy counterwagon. Her approach so far isn’t accusatory of anyone, and without giving away too much (so she doesn’t influence what she does) isn’t hitting the notes I usually associate with town Roxy.

But she’s barely entered so I want to give her time to simmer

Wisdom, however, has plenty of posts and most come off as filler posts.

I especially found it odd when they started getting SAUCY about being a D1 leading wagon as town when only 1 person had voted for them. ‘I’m never wolf in a game where I’m lead wagon on D1’ is definitely a statement. Sounds like a wolf upset with garnering suspicion and trying to fend it off early with some actual facts.

But it could also be said that it is possible to find a Wisdom as wolf on D1 in a lead wagon situation, yes?

I don't fully understand why people are piling on Rox, but if she is town, she's got a keen intuition for finding wolves and I'd hate to vote that early. I'm open to trying to understand why though.

I'm not married to this vote. Just letting it simmer.

I AM TOWN!




Well the Universe is shaped exactly like the Earth, if you go straight long enough you'll end up where you were

And another had been found, another ocean on the planet, given that our blood Is just like the Atlantic.

This guy gets it



I've not read anything, got any luke warm impressions?

I'm pretty happy about the roster here, and I don't want anyone to go. I voted for Roxy because I saw a reasonable chance that her *potentially* out-of-character attitude toward no-shows was a Wolf trying to be relevant but not-too-out-there... or something. Long story short, it pinged me, and it kicked in after reading S~V~S' post about Roxy.

[falcon45ca]

through careful science, I have deduced scotty is a wolf

Deduction applies a known prinical to arrive at a conclusion, induction uses observations & evidence to develop a theory


And science is many things, but careful is not one of them


Just ask Marie Curie


[VOTE: syn] aubergine

[Thunal33]

People aren't accusing each other yet and I feel like creating a crappy case on someone just to get discussion rolling but last game I did that and it was too crappy even for D1 standards, so instead if got everybody to make fun of me so I think this time I'll just shitpost until someone else does that work for me.

Pretend I'm a wolf and case me, awoo!

Hi! My town streak continues.

It's been over 3 years since the last time I was mafia.

Well mine isn’t quite that long. But this is the 6th (non turbo) game in a row I’ve been town and I’m loving the change from 2023 where I randed non-town in half my games.

I feel ya! I've had a 75% wolf rate since last summer so I'm just glad I got to town again, maybe the curse is over!

Maybe it's not.

[VOTE: Wisdom] aubergine

In a vacuum, I think DDL seems townie but this looks like w/w flirting.

This was a wolfy thought jump to me. If you townread DDL then usually you wouldn't jump to his interaction maybe being distancing at this early stage in the game, you just wouldn't think about it. It sticks out with the lack of other reads imo, that you thought enough about that interaction to think about w/w distancing with someone you thought was town in the pair but didn't find other AI content worth talking about.

[Thunal33]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

This is more of a symbolic vote and I don't have real interest in killing Scotty today. I don't want to kill him d1 when the mafia might just kill him at night for being active if he's town.

I'd pick Roxy to vote out of the current wagons.

[falcon45ca]

I AM TOWN!




Well the Universe is shaped exactly like the Earth, if you go straight long enough you'll end up where you were

And another had been found, another ocean on the planet, given that our blood Is just like the Atlantic.

This guy gets it



I've not read anything, got any luke warm impressions?

DDL and SVS being town are the two impressions I have any confidence in.

Which impressions do you have that are strong, yet lacking confidence?


Your Lennie Small impression, so to speak

[Thunal33]

If Roxy returns and is town there's a decent chance I can find her. I tend to be predisposed to suspecting her and thought the no shows discussion and unnecessary shade on people who say they're town in their first post were off, but all the three wolf leans I have rn (Roxy, Scotty, Jack) are pretty low confidence.

[Syn]

Kind of like Syn saying Scotty is a wolf first thing. #29
But then Wisdom does have a point about him not being so enthusiastic and I know he prefers being town. I’ll give him time prob

how is someone not from the org also believing this fake meta about me

[Syn]

gimme dat milk

I remember nothing from this movie

I don't believe this to be true

the orange guy dances at some point

also there may be a t-shirt involved

[Thunal33]

Kind of like Syn saying Scotty is a wolf first thing. #29
But then Wisdom does have a point about him not being so enthusiastic and I know he prefers being town. I’ll give him time prob

how is someone not from the org also believing this fake meta about me

You said "thank god" when I gave you your VT role in the game I hosted so I assumed you prefer town.

[Syn]

I AM TOWN!




Well the Universe is shaped exactly like the Earth, if you go straight long enough you'll end up where you were

And another had been found, another ocean on the planet, given that our blood Is just like the Atlantic.

This guy gets it



I've not read anything, got any luke warm impressions?

DDL and SVS being town are the two impressions I have any confidence in.

you could add another three-letter username to this list uwu

[Syn]

through careful science, I have deduced scotty is a wolf

Deduction applies a known prinical to arrive at a conclusion, induction uses observations & evidence to develop a theory


And science is many things, but careful is not one of them


Just ask Marie Curie


[VOTE: syn] aubergine

I owe her money, I can't

[Thunal33]

I AM TOWN!




Well the Universe is shaped exactly like the Earth, if you go straight long enough you'll end up where you were

And another had been found, another ocean on the planet, given that our blood Is just like the Atlantic.

This guy gets it



I've not read anything, got any luke warm impressions?

DDL and SVS being town are the two impressions I have any confidence in.

Which impressions do you have that are strong, yet lacking confidence?


Your Lennie Small impression, so to speak

DDL, SVS, Lime Coke, Spacedaisy, dunya, Wisdom, Syn towny

Scotty, Roxy, Jack wolfy

[Syn]

Kind of like Syn saying Scotty is a wolf first thing. #29
But then Wisdom does have a point about him not being so enthusiastic and I know he prefers being town. I’ll give him time prob

how is someone not from the org also believing this fake meta about me

You said "thank god" when I gave you your VT role in the game I hosted so I assumed you prefer town.

oh I very much do, but people keep saying I only low-post / have low energy when I rand wolf and it drives me crazy

[Thunal33]

I am now the top poster!

[Syn]

maybe I'm biased since I've hosted most of the games here in the past half year but I mostly took roxy's no-show post as understandable angst about the low activity level this site has had lately

[Syn]

a lot of games here lately have been decided by people just not posting ever

[Thunal33]

Kind of like Syn saying Scotty is a wolf first thing. #29
But then Wisdom does have a point about him not being so enthusiastic and I know he prefers being town. I’ll give him time prob

how is someone not from the org also believing this fake meta about me

You said "thank god" when I gave you your VT role in the game I hosted so I assumed you prefer town.

oh I very much do, but people keep saying I only low-post / have low energy when I rand wolf and it drives me crazy

I remember you having low energy as town sometimes too, but I don't think I've seen you have high energy as a wolf. Tbf I think I've skimmed your wolf game like once.

Also you got your wish you're in my town pile.

Falcon can be there too.

[Syn]

I can get behind a jack chop though

[Thunal33]

maybe I'm biased since I've hosted most of the games here in the past half year but I mostly took roxy's no-show post as understandable angst about the low activity level this site has had lately

I was thinking "wolf with an inactive?" and felt like it was also filler content but it could just be worrying about the activity level.

[Syn]

if she comes back and is really mad about the wagon then you can wolf-read her :P