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Lime Coke wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:55 pm I gotta look at this when I can actually get my head into this the only thing I have in terms of reads gained was Dunya being town.

She might be right with Roxy talking about the no-shows, it felt a bit weird to me.
She's voted me as a no show plenty of times, but usually not Day 1. Hmm.
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Wisdom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:53 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:01 pm I feel lonely. Only DDL acknowledges my existence. Jibay doesn't count, he just likes to @mention people. No suspicion and no good vibes for Daisy. I must be everyone's nullest null that ever nulled or something.

PS Napoleon Dynamite was every bit as boring as I remember it being. I'm not sure I even finished it when it was first out.
Apologies spacey! Hi <3
Hi Wisdom! :hugs:
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Wisdom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:01 am I think Thunal being enthusiastic from being top poster is towny of her, bad way of reading people but I'm sticking to it, sue me :3
I'm sorry that I've been so defensive so far this game. I'm just here to have fun and I feel like I got off to a bad start!
you got done dirty in the org game so it's fair lol
I really did
Awe, that's lame. I'm sorry.

Anyway, I have some work to finish, but I'll pop back in after I'm done in a couple hours.
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Re: Napoleon Dynamite Mafia [Day 1]

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I don't understand the case on Scotty
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Yeah would yeet Roxy or Falcon over someone like Scotty.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:02 am but someone posted a quasi-angle shooty reason
i don't think it's fair to call it angle shooting, i didn't feel that way at all about syn's note.
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Spacedaisy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:24 am
Lime Coke wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:55 pm I gotta look at this when I can actually get my head into this the only thing I have in terms of reads gained was Dunya being town.

She might be right with Roxy talking about the no-shows, it felt a bit weird to me.
She's voted me as a no show plenty of times, but usually not Day 1. Hmm.
are you talking about me or roxy?
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dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:51 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:02 am but someone posted a quasi-angle shooty reason
i don't think it's fair to call it angle shooting, i didn't feel that way at all about syn's note.
Me neither, that was me acknowleding it in advance before someone else called me out on angle-shooting for it.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:02 am I was gonna stay parked on Roxy for most of the day but someone posted a quasi-angle shooty reason for why Roxy's inactive hunt post makes sense coming from here so I gotta leave before this wagon grows.

I was already feeling LC was blendy before his awkward attempt to pocket dunya, now I just wanna yeet here.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine
LC has given quite a few more reads beyond me, like why he trusts thunal and svs. he makes more town reads than mafia reads in general, i feel. i like that he gave credit to his svs read more than me cos he's played more with her recently too. i feel he would have pocketed me harder if he was mafia.

the only thing i didn't like from LC was his wisdom read maybe felt wishy washy and like a cute cushion backfall if he had to swap from roxy and wisdom yeet was bac into steam.

i would say it's likely LC isn't w/w with roxy or wisdom for those reasons.
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Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:50 am Yeah would yeet Roxy or Falcon over someone like Scotty.
that's the first time you mention falcon. why falcon in your opinion?
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i have liked spacedaisy's entrance into the game and her posts seem really cute and happy (although sad to feel lonely), and not out for blood or manipulation, kinda way.
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today is @Jibay birthday so don't turbo him! we're going out to dinner this evening and dunno when we'll be back but hopefully i can make eod, not sure how much back reading i'll be able to do then so i'm trying to leave my thoughts and form a list before then as work allows me to be discreet >.> <.<
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dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:01 am
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:50 am Yeah would yeet Roxy or Falcon over someone like Scotty.
that's the first time you mention falcon. why falcon in your opinion?
You know I went into his iso after you asked me this because I was going to mention one of his posts was a vote with reasoning of nothing in the game but it was literally a joke post so that is gone.

I might not actually be as confident in him being mafia the only reason I'd think of voting him is basically a situation of the CW being a townread of mine.
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[VOTE: long con] aubergine

why are you town?
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Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:08 am
dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:01 am
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:50 am Yeah would yeet Roxy or Falcon over someone like Scotty.
that's the first time you mention falcon. why falcon in your opinion?
You know I went into his iso after you asked me this because I was going to mention one of his posts was a vote with reasoning of nothing in the game but it was literally a joke post so that is gone.

I might not actually be as confident in him being mafia the only reason I'd think of voting him is basically a situation of the CW being a townread of mine.
i iso'd him too and don't feel like falcon has contributed nothing like some players, but i also don't feel like he contributed much especially in the way of follow up after asking people questions.
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dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:55 am
Wisdom wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:59 pm
dunya wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:57 pm
Wisdom wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:55 am If I go with my gut on page 1, Syn's the only wolf that's been online.

Mostly because I recently finished a game with him where he was obvtowning right from the get go, mainly because he seemed to have a fun time

I don't really have a good track record in reading him though, but at least he's not as towny now as he was then.

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what makes you feel he's not having a fun time in this game?
Lack of words and jokes really!
He can have fun inwards tho what do I know, are you a good Syn-reader dundun?
in general, yes. it's easy to tell when something is off with syn.

in mafia, i can't say we've played enough games to be a good syn reader, he mostly hosts me and i play his games. i just didn't get the vibe he wasn't having fun like you did and wanted to understand what you saw.
Well, I think his humor started shining through later, so I feel like I'm back to square one there
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Syn wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:08 am
dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:55 am
Wisdom wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:59 pm
dunya wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:57 pm
Wisdom wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:55 am If I go with my gut on page 1, Syn's the only wolf that's been online.

Mostly because I recently finished a game with him where he was obvtowning right from the get go, mainly because he seemed to have a fun time

I don't really have a good track record in reading him though, but at least he's not as towny now as he was then.

Vote##Syn
what makes you feel he's not having a fun time in this game?
Lack of words and jokes really!
He can have fun inwards tho what do I know, are you a good Syn-reader dundun?
in general, yes. it's easy to tell when something is off with syn.
not my friends psychoanalyzing me outside of mafia 😭
I would never!
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i liked scotty's reads list in that it gave us some idea where his thoughts are even though nothing very concrete. i'm curious to know why he thinks syn is 3p and is playing with that idea. i haven't even thought of 3p hunting yet and we don't even know if the 3p is town or mafia aligned. i feel like people who usually focus on 3p hunting are mafia - so that's my main negative observation, but it's not like he's building cases yet about it.
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Wisdom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:22 am
Syn wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:08 am
dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:55 am
Wisdom wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:59 pm
dunya wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:57 pm
Wisdom wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:55 am If I go with my gut on page 1, Syn's the only wolf that's been online.

Mostly because I recently finished a game with him where he was obvtowning right from the get go, mainly because he seemed to have a fun time

I don't really have a good track record in reading him though, but at least he's not as towny now as he was then.

Vote##Syn
what makes you feel he's not having a fun time in this game?
Lack of words and jokes really!
He can have fun inwards tho what do I know, are you a good Syn-reader dundun?
in general, yes. it's easy to tell when something is off with syn.
not my friends psychoanalyzing me outside of mafia 😭
I would never!
whaaaat i love being able to feel my friends, it means we're connected and aligned and there's love between us, even though syn will say it's only hate. it takes love to hate too ;p
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Wisdom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:22 am
dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:55 am
Wisdom wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:59 pm
dunya wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:57 pm
Wisdom wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:55 am If I go with my gut on page 1, Syn's the only wolf that's been online.

Mostly because I recently finished a game with him where he was obvtowning right from the get go, mainly because he seemed to have a fun time

I don't really have a good track record in reading him though, but at least he's not as towny now as he was then.

Vote##Syn
what makes you feel he's not having a fun time in this game?
Lack of words and jokes really!
He can have fun inwards tho what do I know, are you a good Syn-reader dundun?
in general, yes. it's easy to tell when something is off with syn.

in mafia, i can't say we've played enough games to be a good syn reader, he mostly hosts me and i play his games. i just didn't get the vibe he wasn't having fun like you did and wanted to understand what you saw.
Well, I think his humor started shining through later, so I feel like I'm back to square one there
but...maybe it's all a show...he put on a masquerade for your benefit to show you he's ok but he's really not. oh we used to have an emo emoji that seems to have disappeared. imagine i added one.
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S~V~S wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:01 am It's not what you're saying about other people, it's what you're saying to them, if that makes sense?
Like, I see what you're saying, but since I'm town the only thing I can use to explain it is "it's probably a deal with my playstyle"
The alternative would be that I have a manipulative behaviour in general, as a person, and I would like to think that's simply not true
"It's salt from my last town game" still feels like the easiest explanation (my last wolf game I got subbed out of due to accidentally dm'ing a target instead of the host, which also felt bad because I was doing a good job, so might come salt from that as well now that I think about it) but I've been playing mafia for so long that I might have become a more manipulative player than I'm aware of

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:07 am
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:04 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:02 am I was gonna stay parked on Roxy for most of the day but someone posted a quasi-angle shooty reason for why Roxy's inactive hunt post makes sense coming from here so I gotta leave before this wagon grows.

I was already feeling LC was blendy before his awkward attempt to pocket dunya, now I just wanna yeet here.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine
Not really...blendy I just wasn't posting because my head wasn't fully into getting into the game.

And the Dunya thing.... I just do that with Dunya normally.
Fair.

I'll be around to see what other people think of this.
LC being nice to Dunya is probably NAI
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:44 am I don't understand the case on Scotty
Is there even a proper case? I just noticed the votes going there.
Scotty seems towny on a surface level, I don't know if he's a good enough wolf to be as agressive when having TMI
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you're a beauty, @Wisdom we all have our salt and each of us gets defensive in either alignment, at least i feel like all of us do myself included very much.

part of the reason why i moved off roxy is because i feel like she may hate me when she comes in and sees she's the leading wagon because of me without a chance to refute and be on the defence lol. im scared since i may not be here later and i dunno when people in the US will start checking in with us.
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Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:50 am Yeah would yeet Roxy or Falcon over someone like Scotty.
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dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:07 am today is @Jibay birthday so don't turbo him! we're going out to dinner this evening and dunno when we'll be back but hopefully i can make eod, not sure how much back reading i'll be able to do then so i'm trying to leave my thoughts and form a list before then as work allows me to be discreet >.> <.<
HAPPY BIRTHDAY @Jibay <3<3<3
I hope you have a nice dinner and get some hugs and snugs and love!
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dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:35 am you're a beauty, @Wisdom we all have our salt and each of us gets defensive in either alignment, at least i feel like all of us do myself included very much.

part of the reason why i moved off roxy is because i feel like she may hate me when she comes in and sees she's the leading wagon because of me without a chance to refute and be on the defence lol. im scared since i may not be here later and i dunno when people in the US will start checking in with us.
Just to be clear, I never get upset at anyone on a personal level if they misyeet me! It's more of a "bah humbug stupid town mutter mutter" kinda thing.
If you think Roxy is a wolf and can't play, vote her and leave it at that. If she's a wolf then yay if not she'll forgive you or she wouldn't have signed up x)

(I say this as someone who started crying when I got a red check n1 as one-shot cop last year lol, I felt so bad)
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Oh, btw, SVS is also in my town pile now!
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Wisdom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:33 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:07 am
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:04 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:02 am I was gonna stay parked on Roxy for most of the day but someone posted a quasi-angle shooty reason for why Roxy's inactive hunt post makes sense coming from here so I gotta leave before this wagon grows.

I was already feeling LC was blendy before his awkward attempt to pocket dunya, now I just wanna yeet here.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine
Not really...blendy I just wasn't posting because my head wasn't fully into getting into the game.

And the Dunya thing.... I just do that with Dunya normally.
Fair.

I'll be around to see what other people think of this.
LC being nice to Dunya is probably NAI
It's not him being nice, it's the way he used her suspicion to build his own.
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Thunal33 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:55 am [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

This is more of a symbolic vote and I don't have real interest in killing Scotty today. I don't want to kill him d1 when the mafia might just kill him at night for being active if he's town.

I'd pick Roxy to vote out of the current wagons.
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:30 am
Scotty wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:01 am Jack and falcon have no town equity either.

Vibe feels:

Dunya, DDL, Thunal, Daisy feel towny
SVS around the same feeling with wisdom is nice and that’s probably towny too?

Syn could very well be third party. I was mildly joking but now I think I’ve talked myself into this narrative so I’m running with it

Nook for some reason feels slight town even though it’s been like 2? posts.

Moto, jack, falcon, jibay- post more. No towny vibe yet. Same for roxy, though I don’t much care for the current content.

Le petit is le manquante

Lime Coke is almost on par with Long Con. Very similar blendy feel actually.

Wisdom still a fine vote for kill in mine eye
Such an odd list


You'd think the Maf outnumbered Town this game...do I recall Scotty tossing out such player salads D1?


Perhaps he has and I don't recall...it really seems out of place here tho IMO


[VOTE: scotty] aubergine


i was curious why everyone is like "what's the deal with the scotty votes" and what's the case there.

it is just falcon tho, for feeling like scotty came out with a player salad.
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Wisdom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:31 am
S~V~S wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:01 am It's not what you're saying about other people, it's what you're saying to them, if that makes sense?
Like, I see what you're saying, but since I'm town the only thing I can use to explain it is "it's probably a deal with my playstyle"
The alternative would be that I have a manipulative behaviour in general, as a person, and I would like to think that's simply not true
"It's salt from my last town game" still feels like the easiest explanation (my last wolf game I got subbed out of due to accidentally dm'ing a target instead of the host, which also felt bad because I was doing a good job, so might come salt from that as well now that I think about it) but I've been playing mafia for so long that I might have become a more manipulative player than I'm aware of

Ugh
Did you read the rest of that post?
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Wisdom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:41 am (I say this as someone who started crying when I got a red check n1 as one-shot cop last year lol, I felt so bad)
this is such a wisdom thing. may i ask who the red check was?
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:46 am
Wisdom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:33 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:07 am
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:04 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:02 am I was gonna stay parked on Roxy for most of the day but someone posted a quasi-angle shooty reason for why Roxy's inactive hunt post makes sense coming from here so I gotta leave before this wagon grows.

I was already feeling LC was blendy before his awkward attempt to pocket dunya, now I just wanna yeet here.

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Not really...blendy I just wasn't posting because my head wasn't fully into getting into the game.

And the Dunya thing.... I just do that with Dunya normally.
Fair.

I'll be around to see what other people think of this.
LC being nice to Dunya is probably NAI
It's not him being nice, it's the way he used her suspicion to build his own.
as a cushion you mean?
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I’m getting super confused with all the “LC”. Can we find a way to differentiate between Long Con and Lime Coke?

For me “LC” is Long Con, I’ve know him forever, and Lime coke is “Lime”. But however you want to do it, since I have no idea who you guys mean unless there’s an attached quote.
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dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:51 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:46 am
Wisdom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:33 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:07 am
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:04 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:02 am I was gonna stay parked on Roxy for most of the day but someone posted a quasi-angle shooty reason for why Roxy's inactive hunt post makes sense coming from here so I gotta leave before this wagon grows.

I was already feeling LC was blendy before his awkward attempt to pocket dunya, now I just wanna yeet here.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine
Not really...blendy I just wasn't posting because my head wasn't fully into getting into the game.

And the Dunya thing.... I just do that with Dunya normally.
Fair.

I'll be around to see what other people think of this.
LC being nice to Dunya is probably NAI
It's not him being nice, it's the way he used her suspicion to build his own.
as a cushion you mean?
I'm not up to date with 2025 mafia lingo, but I didnt like the way he went... "I think dunya leans town, and she might be on to something with Roxy, so I dunno, I might vote there later (if it becomes a wagon to save a teammate)"

I tend to get suspicious when people approach the leading wagons of the day with wishy-washy posts like that. Leading wagons kill people, you should be resaponsible about them.
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dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:48 am
Thunal33 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:55 am [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

This is more of a symbolic vote and I don't have real interest in killing Scotty today. I don't want to kill him d1 when the mafia might just kill him at night for being active if he's town.

I'd pick Roxy to vote out of the current wagons.
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:30 am
Scotty wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:01 am Jack and falcon have no town equity either.

Vibe feels:

Dunya, DDL, Thunal, Daisy feel towny
SVS around the same feeling with wisdom is nice and that’s probably towny too?

Syn could very well be third party. I was mildly joking but now I think I’ve talked myself into this narrative so I’m running with it

Nook for some reason feels slight town even though it’s been like 2? posts.

Moto, jack, falcon, jibay- post more. No towny vibe yet. Same for roxy, though I don’t much care for the current content.

Le petit is le manquante

Lime Coke is almost on par with Long Con. Very similar blendy feel actually.

Wisdom still a fine vote for kill in mine eye
Such an odd list


You'd think the Maf outnumbered Town this game...do I recall Scotty tossing out such player salads D1?


Perhaps he has and I don't recall...it really seems out of place here tho IMO


[VOTE: scotty] aubergine


i was curious why everyone is like "what's the deal with the scotty votes" and what's the case there.

it is just falcon tho, for feeling like scotty came out with a player salad.
And Thunal.
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i quoted thunal, she said it's just a symbolic vote. i have no idea what that means for sure, but doesn't that just mean placeholder vote.
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Fair enough. Then the Scotty wagon is not a real case.

But it's a real wagon.

Those things tend to grow when you aren't looking. Gotta make sure we have some wagon herbicide on hand, in case they get wayward.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:56 am
dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:51 am as a cushion you mean?
I'm not up to date with 2025 mafia lingo, but I didnt like the way he went... "I think dunya leans town, and she might be on to something with Roxy, so I dunno, I might vote there later (if it becomes a wagon to save a teammate)"

I tend to get suspicious when people approach the leading wagons of the day with wishy-washy posts like that. Leading wagons kill people, you should be resaponsible about them.
oh i dont know if cushion is any mafia lingo. it was just a bit of a backfall in the same way i felt his stance on wisdom was wishy washy and a good cushion so he can vote wisdom at any moment later on if traction went back without being out of place. so maybe we're talking about the same things, albeit about different people.

i see when you called him out on roxy he immediately placed his vote there, but i understand what you're saying i'm just not sure i felt that irked about his roxy post in specific at the time since obviously it's my hunch and i want to be right lol.
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Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:27 pm I like Jack's entrance. Hello again, Jack!
Hi Daisy. Yes, I am cuddly teddy bear, now.

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Thunal33 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:16 pm
Wisdom wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:20 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:18 am People aren't accusing each other yet and I feel like creating a crappy case on someone just to get discussion rolling but last game I did that and it was too crappy even for D1 standards, so instead if got everybody to make fun of me so I think this time I'll just shitpost until someone else does that work for me.
Pretend I'm a wolf and case me, awoo!
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:21 am
Wisdom wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:19 am
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:18 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:37 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:09 pm Hi! My town streak continues.
It's been over 3 years since the last time I was mafia.
Well mine isn’t quite that long. But this is the 6th (non turbo) game in a row I’ve been town and I’m loving the change from 2023 where I randed non-town in half my games.
I feel ya! I've had a 75% wolf rate since last summer so I'm just glad I got to town again, maybe the curse is over!
Maybe it's not.

[VOTE: Wisdom] aubergine
In a vacuum, I think DDL seems townie but this looks like w/w flirting.
This was a wolfy thought jump to me. If you townread DDL then usually you wouldn't jump to his interaction maybe being distancing at this early stage in the game, you just wouldn't think about it. It sticks out with the lack of other reads imo, that you thought enough about that interaction to think about w/w distancing with someone you thought was town in the pair but didn't find other AI content worth talking about.
For the record, I’m going in order. It’s not like this is the most important DDL/Wisdom post. It’s just the most important one I’ve got to.

But okay.
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Syn wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:05 am I can get behind a jack chop though :dark:
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:22 am Wisdom saying that maybe they are town is irking.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:23 am Yes Im aware that isnt exactly what they said, they said they are town and THEN said maybe the curse is over. But if the curse is not over they can't be town right?

Irks me irks me irks me

Well there is the case.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:18 am People aren't accusing each other yet and I feel like creating a crappy case on someone just to get discussion rolling but last game I did that and it was too crappy even for D1 standards, so instead if got everybody to make fun of me so I think this time I'll just shitpost until someone else does that work for me.
Pretend I'm a wolf and case me, awoo!
I just did. Thanks for the suggestion!

Except jury is still out on whether I'm pretending or not.
This immediately feels less like that thing I said.
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S~V~S wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:58 am
Wisdom wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:55 am If I go with my gut on page 1, Syn's the only wolf that's been online.

Mostly because I recently finished a game with him where he was obvtowning right from the get go, mainly because he seemed to have a fun time

I don't really have a good track record in reading him though, but at least he's not as towny now as he was then.

Vote##Syn
Do you think a wolf is likely to make a first vote for no reason like that in such a small game?
I like SVS’s prior post like “+DDL townieness -Wisdom towniness” because people who think what I think are townie (right? RIGHT?) but this looks like a pretty bad reason to defend a player (Syn?).
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dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:00 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:02 am I was gonna stay parked on Roxy for most of the day but someone posted a quasi-angle shooty reason for why Roxy's inactive hunt post makes sense coming from here so I gotta leave before this wagon grows.

I was already feeling LC was blendy before his awkward attempt to pocket dunya, now I just wanna yeet here.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine
LC has given quite a few more reads beyond me, like why he trusts thunal and svs. he makes more town reads than mafia reads in general, i feel. i like that he gave credit to his svs read more than me cos he's played more with her recently too. i feel he would have pocketed me harder if he was mafia.

the only thing i didn't like from LC was his wisdom read maybe felt wishy washy and like a cute cushion backfall if he had to swap from roxy and wisdom yeet was bac into steam.

i would say it's likely LC isn't w/w with roxy or wisdom for those reasons.
Didn't reply to this before because it took me a while to organize my thoughts.

Yes Lime is making reads. But my point is not that he is doing nothing (like the other LC), it's the stuff he is doing feels thoughtless, just to post stuff so it looks like he's hunting.
Lime Coke wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:08 am SVS is a town.
why
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:40 am Town:
Dunya
SVS
Thunal


Townlean:
Spacedaisy
Scotty
Drag-on
why

Also townreads are fine, I love townreads, but I've noticed that when I'm mafia, townreads are MUCH easier to make than wolf reads (for obvious reasons) so I tend to lean on them a lot too. Lime is not me, but could be a similar thing.
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:46 am I don't really want to yeet Wisdom quite yet part of me is giving leeway there for... random reasons I guess.

Main reason might be hearing about randing wolf a bunch of times, and having her misyeeted if town would feel quite bad.
This explains why you don't want to vote Wisdom yet, but why/when did you think of yeeting them in the first place? I'm not finding the post where you say you suspect them.

Like... you are acting like the Wisdom yeet is a foregone conclusion, and you are just staying away for now because you feel bad about them personally.

Because part of you doesn't want to yeet them.

Yet.

But you might eventually, before the day ends.

Except I have no idea why. I know why you are not voting "yet", but I don't know why you are considering voting at all.
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:57 am Keep in mind majority of my townreads are legit I'm like vibing them town when I look at their posts.

I think like Dunya and SVS I'm mostly there and I can kinda trust my read on them on that basis alone since I got them correctly read in most of my games with them, though more of a better sample size with SVS.

Thunal I kinda just believe in her claimed town streak, and her mass notes post makes me feel like she's town even more.
More townreads.
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:50 am Yeah would yeet Roxy or Falcon over someone like Scotty.
Why.

Those are the current wagons. You are comparing and ranking them. But why do you suspect any of those people? The only of those you ever mentioned before was Roxy, and I've already explained why I don't like that post.
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:08 am
dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:01 am
that's the first time you mention falcon. why falcon in your opinion?
You know I went into his iso after you asked me this because I was going to mention one of his posts was a vote with reasoning of nothing in the game but it was literally a joke post so that is gone.

I might not actually be as confident in him being mafia the only reason I'd think of voting him is basically a situation of the CW being a townread of mine.
"actually now that you asked me why I suspect him I went to his ISO but saw nothing so now I might not actually be confident..."

Feels like a kid who just got caught doing something he wasn't supposed to.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:08 am
Wisdom wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:50 am
Lime Coke wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:38 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:18 am People aren't accusing each other yet and I feel like creating a crappy case on someone just to get discussion rolling but last game I did that and it was too crappy even for D1 standards, so instead if got everybody to make fun of me so I think this time I'll just shitpost until someone else does that work for me.
In games like this... you set the bar very very low and you end up townreading the bare minimum.
I think that's not necessary, it really depends on when it kicks off for real
The playerlist is really swag, so I expect to be able to find quite a few townies based on actually AI stuff before the day is over!
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Pfff townreads are much easier to make period when you want to believe the best in your friends, nobody gets angry at them and you’re statistically more likely to be right.

Like I’m way more comfortable as town looking at a single D1 post and being like “yup, that’s a townie alright” than the other way around.

You’re not necessarily wrong, DDL. I’m just saying.
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I’ve missed this.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:29 am Pfff townreads are much easier to make period when you want to believe the best in your friends, nobody gets angry at them and you’re statistically more likely to be right.

Like I’m way more comfortable as town looking at a single D1 post and being like “yup, that’s a townie alright” than the other way around.

You’re not necessarily wrong, DDL. I’m just saying.
I agree.

But when you are mafia, townreads are just about stating what you already know, while wolf reads involve coming up with absolute lies. It's much more difficult. At best, I try to find posts that "town DDL would find this suspicious for town DDL reasons", and verbalize those, but it's never the same thing.

While when you are town, you might not be confident on a wolf read (god knows I never am), but you can still just be honest about how you're feeling.
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S~V~S wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:50 am
Wisdom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:31 am
S~V~S wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:01 am It's not what you're saying about other people, it's what you're saying to them, if that makes sense?
Like, I see what you're saying, but since I'm town the only thing I can use to explain it is "it's probably a deal with my playstyle"
The alternative would be that I have a manipulative behaviour in general, as a person, and I would like to think that's simply not true
"It's salt from my last town game" still feels like the easiest explanation (my last wolf game I got subbed out of due to accidentally dm'ing a target instead of the host, which also felt bad because I was doing a good job, so might come salt from that as well now that I think about it) but I've been playing mafia for so long that I might have become a more manipulative player than I'm aware of

Ugh
Did you read the rest of that post?
Yeah I just snipped the part I wanted to talk about ^^ I agree with your take on Falcon!
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dunya wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:50 am
Wisdom wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:41 am (I say this as someone who started crying when I got a red check n1 as one-shot cop last year lol, I felt so bad)
this is such a wisdom thing. may i ask who the red check was?
Fwum, he hasn't given forum mafia a chance (yet) so you haven't met him ^.^
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