WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY FIVE]

[leetic]

Returning now, can anyone update me as to why Mac picked up so much momentum?

[Porscha]

I thought Jess was cool for giving me a townlean rep day 1 when she didnt have to

I didnt love her asking me if im a wolf today tho

idk it's just like a way for wolves to float to the audience that maybe I'm wolfy

which can come from town, I just have no idea why she asked it after she recently prior said I'm probably town for probably not making like my 1 main read in that post about a wolf partner Nicole

like I didn't do anything except say that rondo is towny - literally I had done nothing else of any note

and then her tune changed to "hrm are you sure you aren't wolf?" and also I generally just take offense to the question broadly cuz literally nobody of any alignment is going to say "darn jess, you got me. I cannot tell a lie. i am but a wolf in sheeps clothing, after all" --------------- every person is gonna say "no i'm not a wolf" so it's technically pointless. it's a question only made for signaling purposes unless it's specifically connected to an ongoing conversation/event. like idk if she said "ew I hella scumread rondo. now i'm suspicious of you after all. r u shore u rnt woof?" then like ugh I GUESS I give it a little more leeway as a potentially real thought

[Porscha]

Returning now, can anyone update me as to why Mac picked up so much momentum?

he's been absent enough that he hasn't towntold much, so it's easy

imo

however I see multiple jess side-eyers and jess has been megaphoning that she thinks mac isnt towny so idk

i still think mac probs like just admitted to being 3p or acted like that on purpose to hide under the radar for role purposes or smth

[Porscha]

think trekkie's posts the past page were kinda stinky

[Porscha]

everybody is kind of melting together in my brain
I love nicole but I worry she is wolf just from like the silly gif when she wasn't townread which is not a good reason but I don't have much else rn anyway lol

thought whoever i was talking to about multi ball was kinda wolfy for suggesting there may be multiball which is why I responded to that post
I didnt get my answer cuz I didn't really ask directly enough thru my roleplay but, my concern was that it was brought up cuz they thought the person who scumread me was like, wolf, but also I was wolf, but for ?? reason they didn't assume it was w/w interaction

however the other person asked more directly and I suppose the answer provided that the idear came from the stark contrast of tone difference perhaps playing into the read due to potential multiball is like. good

tbh i think porscha is proly town from the bolded. i dont feel like she gives the vibe of a wolf who would feel inclined to distance/bus her partner like 2 pages into the game

i think the shade on porscha especially just feels a little inorganic to me? like mac had barely talked about porscha up until that point, why is he saying that she is "surely not town", esp when i dont rly think she's been all that wolfy

idk what to do at all with the pool of pyxy/epi/rondo. does anyone have a strong read on any of them that i can sheep?

rondo is kinda towny

i kinda think so too after the exchange we just had lol

are u mafia porscha. be honest with me

like these are our posts (I left out the interaction we had where jess agreed with me that michelle posted pretty towny, not long before she was green peeked)

I understand her posts calling me like lightly towny are "light" right, but why out of the blue suddenly ask if i'm a wolf? it was just... jarring

[Porscha]

maybe she suddenly became worried i had tmi just cuz I said "rondo kinda towny" in addition to my ping about nicole...? just. I wouldn't know cuz there was no provided context

[Porscha]

but also jess was kinda pushing on trekkie earlier so maybe that's based

[gims]

@nutella halp

[Dubz]

[VOTE: jess] aubergine

Hey dubz I agree the stuff from jess prior to Nicole flip doesn't look great. What do you think of their content yesterday (earlier during this phase)?

Just skimmed through and overall I think it looks pretty good? Nothing that raises any alarm bells for me. Tbf I would have said the same about her content if I didn't know nicole's affiliation. I don't think she's individually wolfy.

My brain still wants to stick where it has stuck though.

[Dubz]

Why does it seem like Mac doesn't care all that much that he's being voted, is that his usual demeanor? I think I've only played with him once before and it was a while back so I don't recall.

[Dubz]

Oh I see he decided to push Spurs

Well that's a choice

[nutella]

@nutella halp

i think mac is indeed in his lolcatting wolf meta the way he's snapping at people vacuously and with the refuge in audacity spurs push

[RondoDimBuckle]

@nutella halp

i think mac is indeed in his lolcatting wolf meta the way he's snapping at people vacuously and with the refuge in audacity spurs push

itadakimasu

I think he is either exactly one town that isnt that big a deal to lose (If he isnt that exact town he is mind gaming me hoping ill save him)
3p trying to stay alive
wolf having fun on the way out


I am going to be doing the tea ceremony today so I gotta go practice and focus. Cause Im pretty sure I am gonna fuck it up. Bye

[GoSpursGo]

[VOTE: jess] aubergine

Hey dubz I agree the stuff from jess prior to Nicole flip doesn't look great. What do you think of their content yesterday (earlier during this phase)?

Just skimmed through and overall I think it looks pretty good? Nothing that raises any alarm bells for me. Tbf I would have said the same about her content if I didn't know nicole's affiliation. I don't think she's individually wolfy.

My brain still wants to stick where it has stuck though.

Yeah I kind of agree, I thought the stuff from last night was good. Like it's not just the activity, but also the way she was interacting with several players and giving specific reads (sr trek and mac; tr rondo, scotty, leetic, gims, vivax, dubz ; interaction w/ porscha and epig). It feels like she's organically trying to sort people into buckets and I don't really feel an agenda to it.

She's kind of stuck with the day 1 Nicole interactions, but I just feel like individually she is probably findable as one affiliation or the other. And so I just can't get there if I was to consider her as an alternative wagon at least for today

[jess]

Voting Pyxxy feels lame

kind of a peculiar post from trekkie bcuz it's not clear what prompted him to say this but fwiw i think he/pyxy are probably not mafia together

[jess]

[VOTE: gums] aubergine

Omgus breh

this string of posts from mac does feel p lolcatty for him

[GoSpursGo]

Anyone wanna bring back the nicole wagon

Not really

This is about how much I want to vote anyone in the game, since I'm on the subject

DrWilgy - uh does he even know this game is going? Even for him this seems like a pretty noticeable absence, I'd have to go with no for now because of that
Dubz - shrug
Epignosis - shrug
Gims - I once again veto this, don't you guys dare try it at deadline again
GoSpursGo - no
Jess - no
leetic - shrug
Long Con - not really but he's being annoying now so I wouldn't tooooo annoyed
MacDougall - um that's the pink person, I feel like there was maybe some little thing I liked but shrug
Michelle - eh
NicoleandDime - not really
Nutella - no
Porscha - not really
Pyxxy - shrug
RondoDimBuckle - hopeless shrug
Scotty - no
Tranq - no
Trekkie99 - not really
Vivax - not really

I think Epi is a miss, strictly because I don’t trust Mac who is currently voting there, and he is not a worthwhile flip at this juncture

I don't really disagree (other than maybe about Mac? it was the early Vivax townread that I liked from him, I checked)

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

It's gotta work someday?

I do think Michelle is ... suspicious ... specifically because of the "leetic is too good as mafia to [inserts thing wolves often do when they are low wim and is not at all out of anyone's wolf range and specifically things michelle often finds wolfy]" read.

See, Mac gets it

Let's talk about your Poe @Duelist Mirage 欲しいですか？
Hoshīdesu ka? Do you want?

I'm falling asleep but what do you want to know about it?

I'm probably about pyxxy/LC/Dubz as primary PoE, Mac/Epi/Rondo/leetic/Porscha secondary

Oyasumi nasai

Hey @Duelist Mirage , do you have an explanation for your progression from your first 3 posts where you seemed to lightly be town-reading Mac, and most recently had him in your secondary POE? Truly not trying to be a gotcha moment, I'm just looking at the counterwagons and curious how you got to where you did on Mac.

And how do you feel about your pyxxy vote after their posts earlier today?

[jess]

Thoughts on nicole mentions up until the wagon started gaining steam or thereabouts. there's some additional stuff I didn't quote from Spurs, vivax, and Wilgy that looks good, didn't feel like it needed to be rehashed.

gims:

Spoiler: show

Vivax probably town

I agree Nicole might be mafia

Awww

I've mentioned it multiple times but don't think I actually quoted it, this is the early interaction I have a hard time seeing as theater

Trekkie:

Spoiler: show

too agreeable. Duelist’s post here also feels timid

Well I am contrarian to the scum!Nicole theory. Also I couldn't think of a better gif (as in gift, not jiffy) in reaction to DM but the sentiment is true

Gun to head I would vote IHNI ayyyyyy gottem
It would not be DM or Nicole I know that buuuuuuuuut at the same time I could see the angle on either of them but I don’t wanna cause they’re the only players I can actually read, and I mean that as presently in this game and not just in general

Gun to head I would vote IHNI ayyyyyy gottem
It would not be DM or Nicole I know that buuuuuuuuut at the same time I could see the angle on either of them but I don’t wanna cause they’re the only players I can actually read, and I mean that as presently in this game and not just in general

This phrasing -.-
They‘re the ones you can read but if you could read them mafia you wouldn’t because they‘re the ones you can read.

Seems like a circlejerk argumentation.

Sorry for the run-on.
Yes pretty much that. But in between town reading them and not wanting to scum read them, I can see a world where they could be mafia.
It’s like they’re on a scale that’s close to being level, and it could lean towards scum, but I think (along with my previously stated bias) it leans town.

But like how the scale is metaphorical, the scum DM and/or Nicole world is theoretical. In reality, I think this a town world

Noting that trekkie was one of the few nicole defenders. It was quite direct...certainly something I would do for a packmate, not sure trekkie in particular would be so inclined. Maybe @Duelist Mirage can weigh in since they seem familiar?

Spoiler: show

nicole as well? can you walk me through it?

I was also feeling positive about Nicole's early posting, so Trekkie being there too (I checked) was a good sign IMO.

DM was also defending nicole, I think my macro read is still town based on other stuff though.

jess:

Spoiler: show

Vivax probably town

I agree Nicole might be mafia

kind of a wolf shaped post

could u talk to me about nicole, nut? what do u find wolfy about her

This actually stands out to me as the more typical way that a wolf might defend a packmate - indirectly by shading those voicing suspicion of said packmate, and then by asking for an explanation of the reads. coupled with the later pop in while the nicole wagon was gaining steam, i don't like this look for jess.

maybe a hot take but i think the depth of thought + interiority reflected in this post and the rest of dubz posting today is probably town indicative for her. it feels to me like she is meaningfully parsing the game. even her push on me doesnt rly feel like someone speaking from the position of TMI

[jess]

Rondo is another player like Mac
Feels like they’re operating on a higher plane/tmi

i thought it was towny when rondo randomly called me town & asked me questions yesterday but in hindsight it feels a little TMI-y of my alignment bcuz the people who find me town the most easily and confidently in these types of games tend to be wolves lol

[jess]

or rather like someone going out of their way to buddy up to me early in the game, especially when im not THAT towny yet, is usually a dynamic that comes from a wolf more often than a villager. villagers are usually more naturally paranoid about me

[jess]

dubz/trekkie/pyxy/epi/mac should proly have a few

why not me?

i kinda forgot that u existed tbqh

bonzai, remember I exist now?


plus pretty sure mac and michelle think I am town so lets work well together.

MITSUBISHI

like i dunno this usually is just not how other town talk to me, leaving gimmicks aside lol

[GoSpursGo]

dubz/trekkie/pyxy/epi/mac should proly have a few

why not me?

i kinda forgot that u existed tbqh

bonzai, remember I exist now?


plus pretty sure mac and michelle think I am town so lets work well together.

MITSUBISHI

like i dunno this usually is just not how other town talk to me, leaving gimmicks aside lol

That sure is an interesting cast of characters to try and draw together into a town core

[jess]

if u want a crash course on how to read me, if ur really paranoia about me then im probably town but if u townread me then im probably mafia

[jess]

which can come from town, I just have no idea why she asked it after she recently prior said I'm probably town for probably not making like my 1 main read in that post about a wolf partner Nicole

i mean i still think u are probably town especially after this post. sometimes i just say stuff

[jess]

i wouldnt say that i had a specific conscious reason for asking "porscha are you town?" beyond having a flash of paranoia about one of ur posts and intuitively A. wanting to express that b. see how u might respond

[jess]

think trekkie's posts the past page were kinda stinky

i agree btw. i was pinged by this post:

It‘s baffling that there‘s players still seriously considering nicole wagon early birds.

^
But is it scummy?
I think no??????

because: "i don't think it's actually scummy to wolfread players on the nicole wagon" is kind of a meaningless interjection because nobody was actually implying that it was, afaict?

it feels like a thing a wolf says when they want to fill the iar, like talking just to talk idk

[gims]

Jess sounds exactly like tessepia wtf

[gims]

Should I be paranoid

[jess]

lmaoooo tess is goated

[gims]

Jk she is just town

I found a reason to townread trekkie ill post in a bit

[MacDougall]

Also im very much on the Spurs is always town world

Basically see no reason to townread mac other than him going to unlikely slots

Strong words. Hope you are willing to stand by them.

[MacDougall]

Returning now, can anyone update me as to why Mac picked up so much momentum?

he's been absent enough that he hasn't towntold much, so it's easy

imo

however I see multiple jess side-eyers and jess has been megaphoning that she thinks mac isnt towny so idk

i still think mac probs like just admitted to being 3p or acted like that on purpose to hide under the radar for role purposes or smth

I am very much a villager.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: gums] aubergine

Omgus breh

this string of posts from mac does feel p lolcatty for him

Having fun with the fact everyone is wrong about me isn't wolfy.

But I can't really argue that my play in this game would look more like my wolf game to you guys than my town one.

So it really leaves me with very little recourse aside from the make light of an unfortunate situation.

Because I have tried to analyse the game to find a better candidate to chop than me and I can't really find one haha.

[MacDougall]

if u want a crash course on how to read me, if ur really paranoia about me then im probably town but if u townread me then im probably mafia

I made this read already so you should know I am town.

[MacDougall]

At least provide me with some social company before you unceremoniously dump me.

[gims]

looking for that particular trekkie post but finding other stuff that i feel is worth mentioning

It’s probably just their play style but their confidence felt like it was on a higher plane above town or scum with TMI. Could also be multiball but 3p pinged in my head like a missing puzzle piece

well, at first this felt like an unlikely angle for trekkie to post about mac if he is scum with mac, but now that I read through with more attention its just kinda weird post to make altogether

I still think this might point at trekkie/mac to not be as likely paired

(I do think people hunting 3ps are >rand mafia tho soooooo)

can a town vig shoot pyxxy so we dont have to waste a flip there?

Or me lol

thats not outside of any trekkie's range but he is ridic self aware as town who feels useless at times so it matches his town personality

still looking for that post...

Voting Pyxxy feels lame

I kinda like this cause pyxxy is probably town, dont ask me why I think that but I saw scum pyxxy and he is an awkward little ball of truth posting so this seems unlikely to be the same player

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

Now that’s a slot that feels like tmi. Granted I’ve never played with them, and I do vibe with them. Based player lol. Kinda what I was trying to say earlier with the 3p comment.

okay thats the post I townread before from trekkie

but now that I read his oeuvre its like

trekkie isn't towny so I'm not about to townread him

[MacDougall]

I am right here gims.

[gims]

I am right here gims.

I really don't know how to read you so im outsourcing that

[MacDougall]

I believe Vivax is town

hi mac. are u town with me....

I can only corroborate my own role card which says Dear MacDougall you handsome bull please pleasure my waifu love Golden p.s you are town. Which would be strange if it wasn't the third time I have been asked this week.

Would I say this as mafia?

Of course not.

[gims]

[VOTE: trekkie] aubergine

[MacDougall]

I am right here gims.

I really don't know how to read you so im outsourcing that

You can ask me questions about things and I will answer them in real time and show you my pristine town perspective.

[Trekkie99]

think trekkie's posts the past page were kinda stinky

How so?

[nutella]

[VOTE: gums] aubergine

Omgus breh

this string of posts from mac does feel p lolcatty for him

Having fun with the fact everyone is wrong about me isn't wolfy.

But I can't really argue that my play in this game would look more like my wolf game to you guys than my town one.

So it really leaves me with very little recourse aside from the make light of an unfortunate situation.

Because I have tried to analyse the game to find a better candidate to chop than me and I can't really find one haha.

ok

[GoSpursGo]

I am right here gims.

I really don't know how to read you so im outsourcing that

You can ask me questions about things and I will answer them in real time and show you my pristine town perspective.

I asked you questions about who my packmates are. Am I excluded from getting answers to questions?

[MacDougall]

I am curious as to what you guys think I was doing on day 1 while my supposed partner was being run up btw. That'd be a question with no valid answer.

[MacDougall]

I am right here gims.

I really don't know how to read you so im outsourcing that

You can ask me questions about things and I will answer them in real time and show you my pristine town perspective.

I asked you questions about who my packmates are. Am I excluded from getting answers to questions?

Since I have the most votes and am under all the pressure and you are pushing me can I ask you to answer this question about me first?

[gims]

a lot of this is lazy strikes but just so I know where I am

DrWilgy - someone said this isn't scum with nicole so lets roll with it
Dubz - posting okay.
Duelist Mirage - don't know again.
Epignosis - I'm amazed epig is in the game.
Gims
GoSpursGo
Jess
leetic - unlikely s^s with nicole due to wagonomics but I don't really trust this read. will reassess later.
Long Con - forgot he was even playing tbh.
MacDougall - idk about mac, I can't read mac.
Michelle
Nutella - I want her to be town so she is town. will reassess if needed later. unlikely s^s with nicole iirc.
Porscha - fluidity sounds decent enough to make it town a lot. very fakeable stuff but I'm going with the lazy POE for now.
Pyxxy - scum pyxxy is awkward and this one is funny so I'm going with town
RondoDimBuckle - sheeping whatever threadstate we're at that says this is town
Scotty - town from way early game I'll reassess if needed
Tranq - I had an odd and probably not great reason to say not s^s with nicole so striked it is
Trekkie99 - doesn't really feel very towny
Vivax - I suppose vivax is posting good. theres something with nicole I took as not s^s

[jess]

[VOTE: gums] aubergine

Omgus breh

this string of posts from mac does feel p lolcatty for him

Having fun with the fact everyone is wrong about me isn't wolfy.

But I can't really argue that my play in this game would look more like my wolf game to you guys than my town one.

So it really leaves me with very little recourse aside from the make light of an unfortunate situation.

Because I have tried to analyse the game to find a better candidate to chop than me and I can't really find one haha.

i feel like you have such a distinct solving process that i havent really been able to see in ur posts at all this game, it feels a bit like youre foundering and i find it genuinely hard to believe that you wouldnt have anyone that you scumread strongly beyond gospursgo?

so i mean it does kinda feel anti-spewy to me but im keeping an open mind

[gims]

You can ask me questions about things and I will answer them in real time and show you my pristine town perspective.

well do you really suspect spurs?

[jess]

if u want a crash course on how to read me, if ur really paranoia about me then im probably town but if u townread me then im probably mafia

I made this read already so you should know I am town.

true tbh,,,