Long Con wrote:I got nothing. Perhaps fingersplints got the safe WITH a few items in it?
Nope just the safe
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Long Con wrote:I got nothing. Perhaps fingersplints got the safe WITH a few items in it?
I did vote Epi first.LizKeen wrote:S~V~S wrote:Um, I aggressively pursued her until freaking Golden made me think I was wrong. It was like 5:30 AM, I came in the thread, and Zomba & Liz had lulled Golden into a sense of complacency. He said he did not think she was bad, I read her posts from that night and thought he might have a point. I did not trust my own gut, and I got burnt by her (and Golden). When you posted those two quotes from me that morning with Golden and Zomba and made the crack about my post, then my next post, you did NOT mention that they were 40 minutes or so apart. You also did not mention that it was like 5 or 6 AM and no one was here, lol.
But like I said, I have been very open. If you choose to ignore it, or not believe it because it would be more fun for you if i am bad, that's fine. But I am not bad, and I think you know that
I did not "lull" Golden into anything. You think I was working with Zomberella and then turned around and put the second vote on her? It would have made more sense for me to go along with Golden's "I think we can turn this lynch around" idea if that was the case. I don't buy into the whole "mafia could be throwing their teammates under the bus" theory, it has never made sense to me when it comes to an early vote. Later yes, I can see it, but in the first few votes almost a day before the lynch does not make any sense to me. Not unless they're the millionaire and even then that's pretty risky.
Wasn't fs the first vote for Epi?
I think I get what you're trying to hint at SVS but if that's the case why imply it was the item you had saving you rather than letting us think you were maybe Legga. Surely if that wasn't your role Legga wouldn't have minded people thinking it, until/unless someone tried to nightkill them. I've been baffled at the fact the mafia tried to kill you night 2 but then never pursued it again. The thing about Oliver Oliver is how does he know who he's talking to is telling him the truth?
I've been trying to get into Hedville but it's not letting me. I've been trying to find the Piano but it's not coming up in my searches. Did anyone ever play there? If so do you have a link? I know I stopped playing around 2009 or 10.
I'd like to put it out there my vote record is as such: I voted Zomberella Day 1. She wasn't the Millionaire so that would have pointless if I knew her role. bf/townie lynched.
Day 2, I missed the vote but I was pretty clear I wasn't on board with that MM lynch. MM /townie lynched
Day 3, I voted second for Zombarella (granted I was worried about myself) but she was lynched/mafia
Day 4, I thought that was a complete railroad of Sophie. I voted DP. He was n/k'ed so I assume he was townie but that was an odd kill. I wouldn't have been on board with it if I was mafia because he probably could have been easily lynched the next day.
Day 5, Voted 4th for Epi. It was a half-day until the vote-could have gone any which way. I posted my suspicion of him Day 2 and I never wavered from thinking he was probably mafia. Lynched/mafia.
I wasn't going to post that because I knew it would just be jumped on as WIFOM but I really got nothing much to lose at this point.
this doesn't remind me of last game, but then I thought canuck was a bit more vocal then normal in RR. I can see her being burnt out from it, but I would have thought she would have picked up now.rabbit8 wrote:Dom wrote:do u have any suspicious suspicions?rabbit8 wrote:S~V~S wrote:I did vote Epig
Yeah, but your defense of him was very....defensive....
I do still wonder about Canuklehead TBH.![]()
Linky: and you did not defend Zomba.....we know, you could just not make up your mind....we know, ad nauseam.
I played the last full game there, Diamond Dogs Dogs & Cats. That was a fun game. Lorab put up some signups for the Princess Bride after that, but she could not get it filled upfingersplints wrote:I did vote Epi first.LizKeen wrote:S~V~S wrote:Um, I aggressively pursued her until freaking Golden made me think I was wrong. It was like 5:30 AM, I came in the thread, and Zomba & Liz had lulled Golden into a sense of complacency. He said he did not think she was bad, I read her posts from that night and thought he might have a point. I did not trust my own gut, and I got burnt by her (and Golden). When you posted those two quotes from me that morning with Golden and Zomba and made the crack about my post, then my next post, you did NOT mention that they were 40 minutes or so apart. You also did not mention that it was like 5 or 6 AM and no one was here, lol.
But like I said, I have been very open. If you choose to ignore it, or not believe it because it would be more fun for you if i am bad, that's fine. But I am not bad, and I think you know that
I did not "lull" Golden into anything. You think I was working with Zomberella and then turned around and put the second vote on her? It would have made more sense for me to go along with Golden's "I think we can turn this lynch around" idea if that was the case. I don't buy into the whole "mafia could be throwing their teammates under the bus" theory, it has never made sense to me when it comes to an early vote. Later yes, I can see it, but in the first few votes almost a day before the lynch does not make any sense to me. Not unless they're the millionaire and even then that's pretty risky.
I did not mean "lull" as in an actual literal effort on YOUR part; I meant it more on Zombas part. The three of you were here, though, all talking when I got here. And Golden was all, "Yay, it's a civvie party". You may or may not have been helping Zomba that way. I have to reread that AM, and probably right soon as both LC & Dom are reminding me that Golden is dead, and I will have to pull a few quotes.
And I am thinking Zomba, like Golden, had RL that would keep her away from the site for a while, becasue she was away for half the last day she had, and until yesterday, was gone pretty much since she died. I am not onsite 24/7, but I have a window open alot, and she has not been around.
Wasn't fs the first vote for Epi?
I think I get what you're trying to hint at SVS but if that's the case why imply it was the item you had saving you rather than letting us think you were maybe Legga. Surely if that wasn't your role Legga wouldn't have minded people thinking it, until/unless someone tried to nightkill them. I've been baffled at the fact the mafia tried to kill you night 2 but then never pursued it again. The thing about Oliver Oliver is how does he know who he's talking to is telling him the truth?
Re Oliver~ he does not know that; that is the risk of that kind of role. But every night he learns a bit more, and eventually can determine who is lying. I would like to tell him my story. He does not have to believe me.
The first night they could have pursued it was last night; no double targeting, so Night 3, I was off the table. And I have been taking some heat, so why would they try again? And if I WAS Legga, there is this:
RULES
1. No role outing of yourself or others. Role hint with extreme caution.
I am not afraid to cross a weakly drawn line or two, but pissing off the host is crossing a major line. The night post does not say I was the target the night there was no kill. I believe that I was the target. I blurted that out in the thread without thinking about it, and added a within the rules explanation for what i think happened. Are you saying that if YOU were Legga, YOU would have broken the rules there? Had the HOST said I was the target, I would not have offered an explanation. But he did not; I said it. I felt an explanation was needed. Just saying I survived an NK with no explanation given would have been role claiming, whether it was true or false. Since as far as I can tell, there is only one role with an automatic Night Protection.
I've been trying to get into Hedville but it's not letting me. I've been trying to find the Piano but it's not coming up in my searches. Did anyone ever play there? If so do you have a link? I know I stopped playing around 2009 or 10.
I have Grimmy on Facebook & IM; I can pass a message on to him if you like to reset your password for you. I loved every game at Hedville~ as a matter of fact, Bea & I are discussing rerunning a Hedville game or two here.
I'd like to put it out there my vote record is as such: I voted Zomberella Day 1. She wasn't the Millionaire so that would have pointless if I knew her role. bf/townie lynched.
Day 2, I missed the vote but I was pretty clear I wasn't on board with that MM lynch. MM /townie lynched
Day 3, I voted second for Zombarella (granted I was worried about myself) but she was lynched/mafia
Day 4, I thought that was a complete railroad of Sophie. I voted DP. He was n/k'ed so I assume he was townie but that was an odd kill. I wouldn't have been on board with it if I was mafia because he probably could have been easily lynched the next day.
Day 5, Voted 4th for Epi. It was a half-day until the vote-could have gone any which way. I posted my suspicion of him Day 2 and I never wavered from thinking he was probably mafia. Lynched/mafia.
I wasn't going to post that because I knew it would just be jumped on as WIFOM but I really got nothing much to lose at this point.
Thepiano is dead. Most of us played there, though I didn't in 2009. LC and a few others probably did.
No, I am saying (and said previously, right around the time of the Zomba lynch) that I trusted Golden totally, and had i listened to him about BF, I would have backed off of him. Really, I blame myself for not trusting my own gut, but it is more fun to blame freaking GoldenDom wrote:Why did you say I was bad, but list reasons to not vote Epig... why not vote me?S~V~S wrote:I did not defend him; I said I was not sure he was bad. And I was not. But I saw something in something LC said. I think he is wrong about TH, but between what he said & what MM said, I decided to reread him. That is the point of case making, right? To change peoples minds? Well, I changed mine. I felt it more likely that someone other than him would curse me that way, and read the cases with a more open mind. Plus him kissing up to me with those "time to defend" lyrics that he posted kinda pissed me off~
this.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Not me.S~V~S wrote:Everyone who ever played with Sophie thought she was bad. Then there were the people who did not think she was bad but voted for her anyhow.
No. No. No. No. No.
Don't mind me, just relieving myself.
Btw, nice job everyone. Thank you for believing LC and myself.
Convenient that Golden is dead.Long Con wrote:Putting the blame all on Golden for your turnaround is so... convenient.
S~V~S wrote:I think Splints has made it clear she does not suspect meLizKeen wrote:I'll go look at Hedville when I get home.
We only have your word you were even cursed,and how did you know a civvie did it? The doctor has an ability? How were you silenced when you posted on Epi. Wouldn't silence trump everything?
You completely backtracked today and you flipped your opinion on Zombarella when she was in trouble.
FS, you suspect me, what about SVS?
I'm not worried, I don't think there's shoe-eating in my future.
And the Silence is a baddie power. They would not both curse & silence someone, would they? The host allowed me to meet the conditions of the curse and also the silence in that I could not talk about anything other than the curse, and could only make the minimum number of posts required by the curse, 5.
And this host does not think that one trums the other, he obviously thinks all targets are equal
Linki ~ there you go. I thought Epi sent me the Compliment Epi curse. But in retrospect, I can think of a few others who would find that amusingCivvie Others.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
What do you think happens when the millionaire gets more power? Maybe his vote becomes more?Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm starting to become paranoid that TH is the millionaire and vomps keeps voting him to give him power.
Certainly! Let me pull some quotes for you.juliets wrote:bwt, what stands out for you as evidence she is bad? I am reading her as civ this game but want to make sure I am looking at both sides of the issues.birdwithteeth11 wrote:I don't know what SVS is anymore. I guess I'm currently sitting on the fence with her. Although I'm still leaning towards her being bad.
This is right after the Zomba lynch. SVS mentioned that she had re-read Zomba's argument that morning and it had made her do a 180 on Zomba (from bad to possibly good). So her changing her mind the way she did was what started it. It didn't feel genuine to me and still doesn't.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Alright.S~V~S wrote:Exactly, and mine did. About Zomba, not distancing.birdwithteeth11 wrote:rabbit8 wrote:S~V~S wrote:Dom knows how I feel about distancing.
Feelings can change ..........
Linki
But the results of this lynch might affect how I feel about you changing your mind on Zomba.
Linki: HELLS YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
Linki2: Absolutely, Bullz. Major save attempt right there.
birdwithteeth11 wrote:Dom wrote:Why does Zomba being bad mean that Vomps is bad?S~V~S wrote:Also, how is Zomba being bad mean that Vomps might not also be bad?S~V~S wrote:It doesn't mean that. I never said that. But her being bad does mnotb make him good.![]()
Then what does it mean?
I smelled BS here. I don't think SVS is obtuse (far from it), so I think she might have been worried about how the Zomba lynch made her look. So she's intentionally being indirect here. And yet, when I pointed that out to her...birdwithteeth11 wrote:So then you can't decide which he is?S~V~S wrote:It means he could be bad or good. This isn't rocket science.
...apparently that means Dom and I "are taking a simple remark and twisting it into something it is not".birdwithteeth11 wrote:So if you had to lean good or lean bad right now for Vomps, which would it be?S~V~S wrote:Wow that is quite the misinterpretation of what I said. What I said was that just because Zomba was bad does not make Vomps good. You and Dom are taking a simple remark and twisting it into something it is not.birdwithteeth11 wrote:So then you can't decide which he is?S~V~S wrote:It means he could be bad or good. This isn't rocket science.
And Rabbit, I am not bad, and furthermore, I think you know it.
I'm not twisting your words against you. All I've done is pull direct quotes and asked questions. How is that twisting?
Out of curiosity, what made you change your mind on SVS?Dom wrote:I think I buy her story too.Bass_the_Clever wrote:I really think SVS is civ friendly this game.
tbh I think I buy it. I'm a bit nervous because I think her focus on me, but then justifying not voting Epig was weird though. :/ IDK
Nice deflection to Golden there.S~V~S wrote:Um, I aggressively pursued her until freaking Golden made me think I was wrong. It was like 5:30 AM, I came in the thread, and Zomba & Liz had lulled Golden into a sense of complacency. He said he did not think she was bad, I read her posts from that night and thought he might have a point. I did not trust my own gut, and I got burnt by her (and Golden). When you posted those two quotes from me that morning with Golden and Zomba and made the crack about my post, then my next post, you did NOT mention that they were 40 minutes or so apart. You also did not mention that it was like 5 or 6 AM and no one was here, lol.
But like I said, I have been very open. If you choose to ignore it, or not believe it because it would be more fun for you if i am bad, that's fine. But I am not bad, and I think you know that
That's one possibility.Bass_the_Clever wrote:What do you think happens when the millionaire gets more power? Maybe his vote becomes more?Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm starting to become paranoid that TH is the millionaire and vomps keeps voting him to give him power.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
I'm pretty sure golden thought he was to blame toobirdwithteeth11 wrote:Nice deflection to Golden there.S~V~S wrote:Um, I aggressively pursued her until freaking Golden made me think I was wrong. It was like 5:30 AM, I came in the thread, and Zomba & Liz had lulled Golden into a sense of complacency. He said he did not think she was bad, I read her posts from that night and thought he might have a point. I did not trust my own gut, and I got burnt by her (and Golden). When you posted those two quotes from me that morning with Golden and Zomba and made the crack about my post, then my next post, you did NOT mention that they were 40 minutes or so apart. You also did not mention that it was like 5 or 6 AM and no one was here, lol.
But like I said, I have been very open. If you choose to ignore it, or not believe it because it would be more fun for you if i am bad, that's fine. But I am not bad, and I think you know that
I've been wondering about this too. With Vomps being the one to vote him, it's a really good cover too.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm starting to become paranoid that TH is the millionaire and vomps keeps voting him to give him power.
I think he did, yeah. But given Golden is dead now, this feels a bit too...convenient to me.fingersplints wrote:I'm pretty sure golden thought he was to blame toobirdwithteeth11 wrote:Nice deflection to Golden there.S~V~S wrote:Um, I aggressively pursued her until freaking Golden made me think I was wrong. It was like 5:30 AM, I came in the thread, and Zomba & Liz had lulled Golden into a sense of complacency. He said he did not think she was bad, I read her posts from that night and thought he might have a point. I did not trust my own gut, and I got burnt by her (and Golden). When you posted those two quotes from me that morning with Golden and Zomba and made the crack about my post, then my next post, you did NOT mention that they were 40 minutes or so apart. You also did not mention that it was like 5 or 6 AM and no one was here, lol.
But like I said, I have been very open. If you choose to ignore it, or not believe it because it would be more fun for you if i am bad, that's fine. But I am not bad, and I think you know that
What do you mean?birdwithteeth11 wrote:Out of curiosity, what made you change your mind on SVS?Dom wrote:I think I buy her story too.Bass_the_Clever wrote:I really think SVS is civ friendly this game.
tbh I think I buy it. I'm a bit nervous because I think her focus on me, but then justifying not voting Epig was weird though. :/ IDK
I'll try and convince you later if I am still around.birdwithteeth11 wrote:I think he did, yeah. But given Golden is dead now, this feels a bit too...convenient to me.fingersplints wrote:I'm pretty sure golden thought he was to blame toobirdwithteeth11 wrote:Nice deflection to Golden there.S~V~S wrote:Um, I aggressively pursued her until freaking Golden made me think I was wrong. It was like 5:30 AM, I came in the thread, and Zomba & Liz had lulled Golden into a sense of complacency. He said he did not think she was bad, I read her posts from that night and thought he might have a point. I did not trust my own gut, and I got burnt by her (and Golden). When you posted those two quotes from me that morning with Golden and Zomba and made the crack about my post, then my next post, you did NOT mention that they were 40 minutes or so apart. You also did not mention that it was like 5 or 6 AM and no one was here, lol.
But like I said, I have been very open. If you choose to ignore it, or not believe it because it would be more fun for you if i am bad, that's fine. But I am not bad, and I think you know that
I'd really like to hear something convincing from the people who think SVS is civ/civ-friendly. Because I feel like I can only see one side of this and would like to be able to examine other perspectives.
I'm getting just as tired of his votes for me as you are.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm starting to become paranoid that TH is the millionaire and vomps keeps voting him to give him power.
I know I suggested everyone vote for you on Day 2, but he really seems to enjoy it.Turnip Head wrote:I'm getting just as tired of his votes for me as you are.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm starting to become paranoid that TH is the millionaire and vomps keeps voting him to give him power.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Well when you said you buy her story, I thought you meant you're leaning civ on her. Are you now or does her not voting Epig still make you unsure of her or think she's bad?Dom wrote:What do you mean?birdwithteeth11 wrote:Out of curiosity, what made you change your mind on SVS?Dom wrote:I think I buy her story too.Bass_the_Clever wrote:I really think SVS is civ friendly this game.
tbh I think I buy it. I'm a bit nervous because I think her focus on me, but then justifying not voting Epig was weird though. :/ IDK
SVS voted for Epi.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Well when you said you buy her story, I thought you meant you're leaning civ on her. Are you now or does her not voting Epig still make you unsure of her or think she's bad?Dom wrote:What do you mean?birdwithteeth11 wrote:Out of curiosity, what made you change your mind on SVS?Dom wrote:I think I buy her story too.Bass_the_Clever wrote:I really think SVS is civ friendly this game.
tbh I think I buy it. I'm a bit nervous because I think her focus on me, but then justifying not voting Epig was weird though. :/ IDK
Oops. I didn't see the word "justifying" in there.rabbit8 wrote:SVS voted for Epi.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Well when you said you buy her story, I thought you meant you're leaning civ on her. Are you now or does her not voting Epig still make you unsure of her or think she's bad?Dom wrote:What do you mean?birdwithteeth11 wrote:Out of curiosity, what made you change your mind on SVS?Dom wrote:I think I buy her story too.Bass_the_Clever wrote:I really think SVS is civ friendly this game.
tbh I think I buy it. I'm a bit nervous because I think her focus on me, but then justifying not voting Epig was weird though. :/ IDK
Okay. So that's SVS' post about voting for Epig.S~V~S wrote:OK, if Eloh, his wife, and Juliets, the gentlest Mafia player I know, can vote for him, so can I.
Sorry Epi, I thought you might have sent me that Compliment Epi thing, but I don't think you did.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
Drink he couldn't combat but he knew he was no sinner.thellama73 wrote:My boss told us to go home early today. I'm missing three PMs. The sooner I get those, the sooner I can get the post up and go drinking!
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
I would certainly not like to lynch you. However... Vomp, I still don't think is bad. Just because of the Zomb lynch. 14 votes for either one, and people think both might be bad? I dunno. I could still see a Liz lynch, if you're up for that?S~V~S wrote:I have a funny feeling that I may be the only scapegoat today. Not sure why I think that ...
Since there is a theory that Vomp is voting TH becasue TH is the Millionaire (not a theory I subscribe to, tbh, like at all, I think it's a horrible theory) I suggest we lynch Vompatti. And see how that works out for us. Or maybe we could lynch me. Then you could see that what I have been selling is true, and then maybe you could look for real baddies.
But really, I would like to start with Vomp.
You'll find out, or maybe you won't.S~V~S wrote: @Llama~ if a team is eliminated, will the thread be told?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
That's ridiculous. Stop.Long Con wrote:RIP, Splintsy, if it's any consolation, I trusted you for the most part.
I feel like it's something I've seen in a game before... a baddie killing the very Civvie that trusted them the most as a way to trick the other Civvies.
I would get behind a vomp lynch. The way Epi reacted to the Zomb lynch really caught my eye. And now that we know Epi was bad bad bad....I think Vomp may be too.Bullzeye wrote:I would certainly not like to lynch you. However... Vomp, I still don't think is bad. Just because of the Zomb lynch. 14 votes for either one, and people think both might be bad? I dunno. I could still see a Liz lynch, if you're up for that?S~V~S wrote:I have a funny feeling that I may be the only scapegoat today. Not sure why I think that ...
Since there is a theory that Vomp is voting TH becasue TH is the Millionaire (not a theory I subscribe to, tbh, like at all, I think it's a horrible theory) I suggest we lynch Vompatti. And see how that works out for us. Or maybe we could lynch me. Then you could see that what I have been selling is true, and then maybe you could look for real baddies.
But really, I would like to start with Vomp.
Ok, what is it about Vompatti's post that you're finding civvie?Bullzeye wrote:Being useful and being a civvie are two entirely different things though.
His posts are the usual Vompatti stuff. They say little about his alignment IMO. As I've said at least two or three times, I just think based on the way the Zomb lynch went down that it's unlikely they're both bad. I'm not saying he's some bastion of goodness who we should all aspire to be more like, I just doubt that the guy's a baddieLizKeen wrote:Ok, what is it about Vompatti's post that you're finding civvie?Bullzeye wrote:Being useful and being a civvie are two entirely different things though.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.